Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Version 2.0.1 Is Now Live, Here Are The Full Patch Notes

Awesome.

I'm just putting the kids to bed, then I'm diving into the DLC.

Cool, if you look past the performance issues it wasn't a bad game. But I don't think I'll buy the DLC. Might hop back in to check out the new features!

I’m waiting until the Indigo Disk to buy the additional content. Right now I have TOTK And Metroid Prime Remastered to beat…then Wonder…it’s going to be a busy fall.

Xenoblade Chronicles 3 got an update as well. Mewtwo is the new secret boss.

Im guessing that they are hoping we have forgotten their promise to improve the games performance?

Unfinished crap doesn't get my money.

Hehehehehe…..

If rumors of the “Switch 2” running Breath of the Wild at 60fps are true, perhaps they are waiting for Switch 2 to sort of automatically optimize this game now.
Who knows…

I'm glad I waited for a patch to improve performance before buying this. Once I saw patch after patch released with no frame rate improvement I gave up on it. Hopefully with the next console this will be enjoyable for someone like me. It would be exciting if they could get Scarlet/Violet up to 60fps or higher on their next system. I really think a fast playing Pokémon game would be super addictive. I still enjoy Arceus every once in a while.

@120frames-please LOL. You do realize that it's an incompetence issue by TPC/GF and NOT a console power issue right? There are WAY better looking and larger open-world games on Switch that run with no issues like BoTW and ToTK...

Omg it came out even earlier than I thought! Soo tempting to try it out before I sleep ^_^

Yay toxic and grassy glide are back as TM's! Great for Umbreon+toxic+protect+ substitute+rest and Rillaboom+hidden ability+grassy glide. Good strategies.

@LilyGoMEOW Yeah, every programmer has a different skill level. I'd like to think even not too wonderful programmers could get a game locked to 30fps or 60fps (maybe at a low resolution) on the upcoming Nintendo console. We'll see...

No performance fixes, lol

Oh good, that minimap never staying north always annoyed me. It's something I liked having in both open-world Zelda games on Switch.

@Mauzuri I’m going to agree with you on that ✌🏻

@Mauzuri Yeah, I came back to the game recently and the performance isn't even bad. There's instances and areas (typically the populated cities) where it's a little choppy but the general gameplay is fine.

Its really just people who've made a bogeyman out of it without playing.

Chicken Littles thinking the sky is falling but won't look up to see it isn't. It'd be nice if there was performance improvements but it's not some kind of make-or-break change that these people have built up in their heads.

These are the best Pokemon games to date, and I say that as someone who has played every single generation at release. I'm hyped for the DLC, I want that little mask man. But the second DLC looks like the real treat, as the safari zone styled land looks awesome.

@Mauzuri

Nah sorry, this game ruined Pokemon for me (and a lot of people aswell)
I was really hyped for getting back in Pokemon after Legends Arceus, (the last ones I played before that were Pokemon FireRed & Greenleaf when I was young).
Legends Arceus was not perfect either for example it had SOME frame drops but this game... low frame rate is by default, it cannot even retain 30fps.. and that's unacceptable for a fresh game in the main series!
You can clearly see that it has been rushed, so the complaints about performance are on the right spot.

Glad to hear that many can still enjoy content/story wise, but underwhelming performance and paying full price, no thanks!
Especially if you can fix it with patches trough updates and still don't care as a company to do it... Shame

Too late. Finished and dusted. Loved it though… sad fixed are coming so late

@Mauzuri Passionate fans voicing concern in an attempt to get the developers attention and hopefully make the next game better shouldn't offend you since the end result will either be their failure or their success. And so far it's working because these games have still sold 3 million less than Sword and Shield.

@Dr_Lugae That's delusional. The problems with this game are endless and the poor performance (which absolutely exists) is the least of my concerns personally. You're free to like a turd but don't fool yourself.

gosh i wish the game was actually finished. I may cave someday and finally play the game, but im too busy with other videogames, and, yknow, life, to even think about giving it a try. Please gamefreak, use the funds you have to do better! I know you wont since you can just put out whatever and be fine, but i digress

@ganonms It's a game for children, they don't really care about optimising it. Ten year old Kevin won't even notice the difference.

@ganonms Just because adults choose to play it, it does not mean it's aimed at them. The target audience is children, and their parents who pay for it. Two groups who, for the most part, couldn't care less how well it runs. The fact it is not patched proves they don't care what some thirty-something nit-pickers are saying about the framerates: it's not their intended audience.

They actually did improve some of the performance. Especially when loading the PC Boxes, which was very slow and it took some time to load the sprites of the Pokémon. Also other menu's feel faster

Is there a list of Pokemon newly added to the game? I'd like to run it against my untransferred Pokemon list.

Does this update allow the added Pokémon to be transferred in from Home?

@SpaceboyScreams It's a bit silly to call someone delusional in the same sentence you make a hyperbolic claim. "endless problems", nah, why don't you take your hysteria back to twitter?

P.S. Sword/Shield has been out for 4 years, S/V have gotten within 3million of them in the span of 7 months, and 2.5m of it was from this year. At the current rate S/V is selling, barring the release of a Switch 2 cutting the sales short, they will catch Sword/Shield.

I get that people will defend it because it's Pokémon but the fact they're lying to themselves about performance is laughable. We're not expecting perfection, we're not expecting the most incredible game you can buy but we do expect bare minimum. The performance isn't good and what's worse, is it run worse than previous titles. I get it's a bigger game and a true open world but it should never perform worse than previous games. GameFreak were way over their head and I think the game should have been handed over to someone else with more experience with big open world games or at least give GameFreak a hand to get them where they need to be. The arguing over performance is pointless because the fact is, there are issues. Just wish people would stop kidding themselves and actually get on to developers to make them make a change.

@Mauzuri it's getting really sad, and people WAY overstate the problems too, like youd think the game didn't boot at all the way people talk about it

@ganonms Kids have different standards, they aren't bothered about the performance like an adult might be. They're just there for the Pokemon. The sales are a testament to that fact. I play N64 a lot and almost every game has huge lag, but I never noticed it as a kid. I also don't care now, the games are fun.

@NinjaNicky I think it's a bit much to imply that people are lying or lying to themselves just because they are enjoying the game despite them. I don't think anyone has denied issues exist. What they are saying is that the issues aren't game-breaking for them.

As for whether or not people feeling the need to endlessly go on about how they hate the game and won't buy it in these comments, I guess there's no rule to suggest they shouldn't. I personally wouldn't waste my energy. I get that Game Freak needs to know that they can. I don't think continuously posting how you hate the game or won't buy it is going to make any difference. I doubt Game Freak is reading the comment section on Nintendo Life. But I completely support making your voice heard with your wallet.

@NomDragon I feel the same way, although I love the series and have played every main title, Scarlet and Violet was the last straw. Legends Arceus was fantastic and got so many people interested in Pokemon again. I have a friend that hasn't touched a Pokemon game since Ruby and Sapphire and even he bought it, played it and enjoyed it. Not sure why they didn't continue with that style of gameplay as its way more interesting and fun in my opinion. Its great that Scarlet and Violet was open world but everything else was the same pretty much. And yes, the performance is atrocious, but it has become a money cow for Nintendo/Game Freak and that's all they care about at this point

@120frames-please To be fair, the frame rate is almost certainly better than at launch in some (but not all) locations. 1.2.0 was a huge performance patch in particular. There were a few areas that were nigh unplayable at launch that run fine for me now. And the DLC area runs relatively smoothly with better textures and more populated areas. They just aren't specifying the details in the patch notes.

...Though there's still one area in the main game I'm aware of where the frame rate tanks to unplayable levels for no clear reason. And when I say unplayable, I mean I tried to shiny hunt there and got motion sickness after an hour or two from the constantly shifting frame drops, something I've literally never had from a game before. So y'know, can't say you're wrong to skip if that's what you want, but there hasn't been no progress either.

@SpaceboyScreams lmao it’s not “working”. Don’t delude yourself into thinking ANY Pokémon “boycott” made any noticeable impact.

The game is still widely considered a major success even if it does end up falling short compared to Sword/Shield (which is a stupid comparison because Scarlet/Violet sold more within the same timeframe anyway) . This is a low budget game (doesn’t even have VAs to pay) that sold 20+ million on one platform and it’s not even done with all of its dlc with at least one more winter holiday season run.

You can justifiably crap on the performance, bugs, art-style, or any missing features, but sales is one thing mainline Pokémon ‘games will never struggle with objectively speaking.

@drewber2635 because Legend of Arceus wasn’t a true mainline Pokémon game experience. As much as that game is praised it never did attract as many people as a true Pokémon mainline game did. At best you would see elements adopted which was what happened in Scarlet/Violet

@Mauzuri I don't hate it, but the performance and visuals were so distracting that the game was difficult to enjoy for me. I come back when these update articles appear in the hopes that maybe they've made some effort to optimize the game, but they haven't. Yeah there's no reason to just talk ***** on the game, but I can't think of any other Pokemon game that looked so bad or ran so poorly considering the hardware. I think what the game does in terms of gameplay is great and I really wish I could enjoy it. It's the Pokemon game I always wanted as a kid 20 years ago. But I think the people upset about the visuals and performance are totally justified. It's a bit depressing that we're just expected to accept that they'll never fix that.

I've spent about 10 minutes in the first area of the DLC and the frame drops and slowdowns make it still absolute trash to play. I don't blame anyone who is insistent on not buying the DLC because of the performance.

I had some hopes that they would make SOME effort to make the new areas perform better, but I should have known better than to trust GF to do a good job.

@Bobb It's really great that a lot of people don't have issues with the visuals or performance. I'm not going to try to convince you you're wrong for still being able to enjoy the game. But I think you're understating the issues a lot of us have with it.

I agree that graphics aren't everything. I think visual art style is more important than graphical fidelity. Legends: Arceus wasn't even close to being the "best-looking" game on Switch, but I still thought it looked great. But SV don't even come close to that. And I could accept that if the game ran decently, or wasn't filled with weird visual glitches and pop-in from twenty feet away, but that's not the case. It was incredibly distracting for me and it kind of killed the enjoyment. The immersion of Pokemon out in the wild breaks (for me) when they pop in so close to you, and when they disappear because you're just slightly too far away, then they're totally gone. Some structures in the game just don't exist until you're about twenty feet away. There are certain areas of the map where you cross a threshold and half of the terrain disappears briefly. On top of all of that, the game slows down when the framerate drops.

There are a myriad of open world games on the Switch that look vastly better and perform better. One of them was a launch title. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect stable performance in a game designed for one piece of hardware from a long-established developer. No reasonable person is expecting 60fps or 4k.

@Bobb Trust me, I really wanted to enjoy it and I've tried going back to it multiple times to give it another chance and it's difficult. I got Pokemon Blue when it came out when I was like 7. Gameplay-wise SV seemed to have everything I wanted in a dream Pokemon game as a kid. It's just disappointing because Legends: Arceus felt like such a step forward for in terms of immersion and the performance and visuals were fine.

I think a lot of people tend to be hyperbolic when they have negative feelings for a game and it can be hard to distinguish between people who just want to hate on something or had unrealistic expectations versus those who have reasonable criticisms. It's great if people are able to overlook the issues and enjoy it. But I would have preferred a world separated by zones like Legends: Arceus if it meant stable performance and visuals.

@link3710 Good to know. Thank you for sharing your experience with the game.

@LilyGoMEOW I'll always stand by my opinion that it's not an "incompetence issue", it's an issue with Nintendo constantly pushing GF/TPC to release a game every holiday season. If they were allowed enough time to finish their games, they'd be finished.