Poll: Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp Is Out Today, Will You Be Getting it?

62% say nope.

62% will wonder in three years why Nintendo won't look in their back catalogue as they see them announce Paper Mario: Mâché Mafia with fold gimmick.

EDIT: That shifted quickly.

Waiting for my copy to come in the mail as we speak, pretty excited to play em.

I still unsure with this game.
Aesthetically look good, I like the Max design but the gameplay still needs more watching from YouTube.

Yup, just not right away. Most likely getting it in June.

@Anti-Matter if anything the foundation is the gameplay is rock solid IMO. The gameplay you’ll probably see from reviews and first impressions is early stuff which can look a bit dull, but the middle/later the complexity and difficulty ramp up in brilliant ways. It’s stellar.

@Paraka People shouldn't feel obligated to buy arguably bad games day one just on the hope that more games will be made. Reboot Camp has flaws, especially with online multiplayer, I for one don't intend to reward that with $60. And if that means no more Advance Wars games, oh well! It's on Nintendo and WayForward for dropping the ball, not on me for withholding my money for a better game.

Already bought it on eshop, waiting till midnight to play it, lol

Still out there hoping for Dual Strike DLC or something, lol

I will get it today but wont finish before TotK. Hoping for more entries in the franchise.

The gba originals just look so much better. I'm definitely sticking with those. This remake kinda just reminds me of the 3d secret of mana remake

I'll wait a little to get them. i really want to play them but my backlog increased a lot recently with several RPGs, and Zelda is coming next month.

Had that sucker pre-downloaded for a week now. No one does SRPGs like Intelligent Systems. Fire Emblem and Advance Wars are my cup of tea in every sense of the word. Finishing up a game right now, but Advance Wars Re-Boot is my next goal to tackle in my backlog. Hype!

Will pick up the physical copy after work!

@Judal27 or the Monster World IV remake. Oof.

@Thief It's logical to not buy a game because you find enough of its features lacking (or if it's just not your bag), but no one is arguing that this game is bad, at least if OpenCritic is any indication.

I will get it because I'm a crazy person that needs it on a cartridge. Don't ask. It makes no sense to me either, cause I definitely prefer the look of the originals.

I'll wait for an inevitable discount on these games

Unfortunately the graphics on this remaster are super ugly and devoid of personality. I’d rather play the originals.

I might. Moneys a bit tight, but I really want to support this. Selling some old games might do the trick.

@ZZalapski There have been numerous people calling the game bad, myself included, which is why I said "arguably bad games". Obviously, opinion is subjective but going off of OpenCritic alone isn't a credible way of determining that. Cyberpunk 2077 and Pokémon SwSh both have strongly positive ratings on OpenCritic but clearly that doesn't make them good games.

I've never been a fan of RTS games--I haven't even played Fire Emblem, although I did purchase Awakening before the eShop closure, so I'll get to it eventually. I don't know if the genre will ever win me over, though. That said, I hope this game does well. I'm genuinely happy for fans of Advance Wars, and it looks like a lot of love and care went into this remaster. I'm sure it's great for what it is.

My only complain with the new look is what NL wrote in their review: that the stages look like boardgame. This is supposed not to happen because users & game should have an interactivity and connection and NOT something to leave them out of this immersion. It's like the game remind them all the time that hey player, this is just like a toy. You can zoom in though, but still it's something that bothers me.. All the other - graphics, music, modes, are good.

This looks good but I don't have time for them right now, will probably pick them up at a later date.

Got enough to be getting on with until Tears of the Kingdom. This looks great though, and is on my radar for later in the year.

Been enraptured by the game so far, and as such have barely noticed the diorama aesthetic.

Decisions regarding online play are bizarre though.

It looks fabulous and I can’t wait, but it’ll have to wait with TOTK around the corner and with little gaming time, Zelda comes first. Maybe in the summer along with Pikmin and Ghost Trick, assuming they release a UK physical.

@Paraka are you saying people with no interest in this game should buy it anyway in the hope that Nintendo remaster other old games?
I've never been a fan of turn based games (unless it's Hogs Of War) so I'd never buy it, especially for the £45 price they're asking for.

@Thief Going by your stated intent to not buy this game, how can you say this game is bad if you haven't played it?

@ZZalapski I watched Australian livestreams for the game that have started coming out. I don't blindly buy games that I have hesitations about, and for Reboot Camp, I'm very happy that I did.

Plus, this game had zero pre-order bonuses. In fact, people who bought physical copies are realizing that they can't even redeem gold coins off of it. Dodged a bullet there!

I will pick this up for sure, but I have WAAAAAY too many games that I'm trying to play before TotK comes out... because that'll basically take up the rest of my year. Hahaha!

@Not_Soos This is not an RTS game, nor is Fire Emblem. RTS are real time (this is turn based) and there is a lot of focus on defense and resources (here some resources, but it's overall very limited). Also RTS battles take a lot longer.

I picked it up using a Game Voucher, and played it for a short while after midnight. It's just as good as I hoped it would be.

@Thief You have very high standards for buying a game, no? It's such a small franchise, what do you expect, a full size Medium Tank? I think people who preordered the game, just want the game. And they got it and they're happy. Maybe not everyone is so preoccupied with getting extras.

My brain was too smooth for the original GBA versions. I don't expect any better for this re-release. So...no for me, but still excited for those who are excited.

Day 1 for me, mines in the post arriving today, can't wait.

My copy is in the hands of a DPD delivery driver as I type. Its not being delivered until late afternoon so I won't get a chance to play until after work.

I prefer the original GBA graphics but not by much so that doesn't bother me and I'd expect the online stuff to be changed in a future update.

I got this in the post yesterday and so far it's glorious. The music! It's as amazing and catchy as ever!

And I'm so pleased that the AI no longer cheats in fog of war missions like it did back in the day. It was always annoying when enemy rockets would snipe you despite not being able to "see" you. And enemy units can now get ambushed by your units just like you can get ambushed by their's, much like in Days Of Ruin.

I remember the 2nd game being even better than the 1st so I'm very much looking forward to that!

I've tried the originals enough that I know I'm terrible at this game, so nah, not gonna drop the money for it

I totally loved advance wars, but I’ve played it for hundreds of hours back then, so propably gonna skip the reboot

Hope my copy turns up today. Absolutely dying to play these remakes. The animations look so good. I have such fond memories of playing through these on my old NES GBA SP. Really hope Dual Strike gets a remake or dare I hope for a brand new Advanced Wars game if this sells well.

It was more on my radar during the original release window. Now it's been pushed back to April '23 I've committed too much money elsewhere.

I'll get it eventually, if just for the sake of my Switch collection, but I do have all the originals and haven't seen enough of this revamp to make me think I have to double-dip straight away.

I've waited nearly two decades for an updated Advance Wars. A sequel would if been nice but I understand that after such a long period without a entry in the series many gamers have yet to experience this fantastic title.
It is without doubt my favourite game series of all time.
Hope it is going to be a success leading to more entries or even a brand new game.
BTW if you like this try Tiny Metal.
It's awesome!

The game is so easy, I really hope they improve the multiplayer to include people other than friends. At least the map creating and sharing feature can up it a bit as you can make maps where the AI gets a huge advantage.

For those wondering, here is my quick review: this remake has ugly 3d overview visuals, lengthy single player experience, bad online (1 vs 1 via friend request) good 3d combat animations, fantastic 2d designs, incredible soundtrack, superb gameplay, and a lot of love and respect for the series. They even included some songs of the super Famicom game, that tells you the level of commitment for this game. Do not doubt, this is a good remake, not perfect, but there is no wrong in buying this game day one. It stands by itself and would be a shame letting die this faithful remake.

@Kanaletto I'm so upset about the online. It's fully garbage what were they thinking!?

I love the originals, and want this remake, but while not arguing the value for newcomers, for me it's way too pricey. And "Nintendo" and "decent sale" don't fit in one sentence... Wait... That sentence contradicts itself.

Been a fan since picked up AW2 Black Hole rising on GBA, got everyone game in the series since.
Really looking forward to playing ihis

It was great on the GBA. Will be getting this for sure. Perfect for a Switch Lite.

Can't wait to play through these two campaigns again. I've pretty much forgotten everything from the originals. Will be like two new games! Although, I do remember how easy it was to pick up and start playing immediately, without sacrificing the strategy elements. So many games today put me off with needless complexity from the start. I just haven't got 10 hours to learn the rules!

Please don’t buy a game that you don’t think is worth the money just so fans of a series you barely know about can be kinda happy one day.
That being said, it looks fun, and I’ll pick it up down the line.

I like the new style but I already have the originals so I don't need it.

After discovering the only online is via friend list - I won't ever be buying the game. Unless it hit $20 or something - which will never happen.

@Thief Frame rate is very unstable in the game too. A game like this should run at 60 FPS on Switch.
Metroid Prime Remaster runs at 60 FPS and that game is a lot heavier.

Pricing is so off with Advance Wars too.
60$, but it's not a AAA game.
Metroid Prime Remaster.. 40$.

I’ll stick to the originals because I’m not a fan of the redesigned graphics. A lot of this series’ charm lies in the great looking pixel graphics IMO.

WayForward have done fantastic sprite work in the past, so I’m sad to see they didn’t honor the series legacy with updated pixel graphics.

@Thief If you only buy flawless games, you're not buying any games.

The game is very good, I was a little on the fence but I am glad I got it. Online matchmaking would probably not have been fun anyway with people rage quitting and no meaningful progression.

I like the idea of a friendly advanced wars battle on the couch with some snacks

I don't like the graphical style but will consider buying if the price goes down. I'd rather get Fire Emblem Engage instead.

I picked it up against my better judgment because they had a copy at my local store and because I trust Nlife's review. You see I played Tiny Metal and had to bench it because it was so tough for me (weird because I beat FE Engage just fine) I'm just hoping they were right on the money when it comes to the casual mode being accessible for scrubs like me.

@BodkinDQ Advance Wars isn't a SRPG. AW would be consider a Turn Based Strategy Game. No role playing at all- leveling, unit stories, all of that stuff is absent. You kill and get killed with complete detachment.

NIS is better at SRPGs. I personally consider NIS the best at it.

Got up early this morning to play a little bit before work! Only had about a half hour to I got through the field training and am all set to begin the story when I get home. Can't wait!

Not my kind of game, so it's a nope from me, but I'm thrilled that it's finally released for the folks who are super-excited to finally be able to play it.

@Thief You should play them before you call them bad.

Should be arriving by '10pm' according to amazon.

@Thief - Which is amusing coming from the same people that sees a 10 dollar mark-up on what is essentially Zelda DLC as reasonable and the next masterpiece. The same community that think Nintendo is in dire, desperate need for EA's games in the same breath knock on every franchise it has. The same community that debated just a port of F-Zero GX with updated graphics would be good enough. Hell, you're justifying a major reason to not get a game for gold coins.

For the record; it's fine to not buy a game you don't want. However, in spite of my jest comment, I seriously do not think anyone here really knows what they want.

@Paraka I hope Zelda TotK misses all sales estimates and forces Nintendo to rethink it's strategy.

I’m buying it later, so excited to revisit AW but I only have 4 days to play it because of Xenoblade 3 FR coming on Tuesday

I love the games. If this would have released when they originally said it would release, then I would have bought it immediately.

Instead, they chose to hold off for a dumb reason, then release it in between Fire Emblem and Zelda. I don't have time to play one of those games, I definitely don't have time for all three.

Once its down to 30€ i will consider buying it.

@JohnnyMind You don't need 60 FPS in this, but the frame rate is quite unstable in this game according to Digital Foundry who benchmarked it.

@Cashews - I don't think it will. We seen what Scarlet/Violet did with WAY worse bugs than BotW had.

Which is also amusing, in spite of bugs and frame rate issue, everyone praises the original BotW. A reason many won't get Advance Wars.

I can go further, FF Pixel Remaster is 70 bucks and everyone is excited about it here, no changes to the games but crisper pixels basically. Another reason people won't get Advance Wars.

Breaking down the aforementioned FFPR; 6 games turns into 12 bucks a game. Metroid Prime Remaster is 40 for one game, while Advance Wars is 30 a game. Another reason we see here people won't get the game.

Now, it's fine that you feel strongly of these points to why one won't get a game. But people are very inconsistent with it.

@Thief Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. In that context, your assessment is a bit more sensible, even if I disagree with the metrics you use. Not that you need affirmation from an Internet rando, of course, but I appreciate your elaboration.

@Paraka your two examples are interesting. I think SE created demand by limiting supply of the physicals - and putting them up at stupid times. These games are released on every mobile device, every console, every handheld, every time. Why people keep buying them is beyond me - they are mostly terrible to begin with - and owning it 3+ times is dumb.

Metroid might have created the same fomo demand by restricting supply - but that isn't usually nintendo's bag. That one worked on me.

2 cents. I think AW are priced okay. The games originally cost 30 apiece I think. They arent easy to play pre-today. I am not impressed with the updates at all though.

I have both and a GBA SP that works very well so it isn't for me. What this needed was matchmaking with randos. A place to share and play custom maps. And it desperately needed a few additional maps. These are two great games - But I find this release lackluster overall.

@JohnnyMind
Thankyou me too!
I has smol brain.

I prefer the look of the originals but I'm still buying it. These are my favorite strategy games of all time and I'm curious about the QoL changes.

I forgot if I had ordered it or not, and I didn't feel like checking several webshops to see if I did. It didn't come in with the mail, so I just ordered it today, and should hopefully come in tomorrow, if not early next week.

I loved (and still love) the originals, but I'll wait for an e-shop sale for Re-Boot

@JohnnyMind They already did 3 days ago or so. Got it early.

In this kind of game, it doesn't break the gameplay anyway.

I went out and picked up my preorder from GameStop Canada as soon as they opened this morning. I wanted to make sure the cartridge was in my hands before Nintendo would last-minute change their minds and once again postpone/cancel release of the game. Advance Wars 1 & 2 were some of my favourite GBA cartridges growing up and it still bums me out that I have misplaced those originals in one of the many moves I've done over the years. So I'm glad to finally have the games again, on Switch, in a fancy new box for my shelf & hopefully the game sells well enough for Nintendo and Intelligent Systems to give this series a brand new entry (yes remakes of Dual Strike & Days of Ruin would be cool, but I want to see this game get new entries and the same love that Fire Emblem gets with their nearly bi-annual releases).

@luckiernut yeah, I get what you mean. I also don't think Online is a deal breaker. Nintendo has always been on-the-couch party gaming, and I'm not eager to waste much time online just to see people disconnecting or just deliberately goofing around (refusing to surrender) because they will not take the loss. The original AW 1 and 2 where not online anyways, a missed opportunity, yes, but that means they polished the campaign to the max, and it shows.

I’m getting 2 copies today. One for myself and one for my younger cousin.

I have it already

@Cashews - It does, all of it, boils down to value.

For me, I value FF6 extremely highly. So I will buy the game collection. In spite of its price tag. Being able to finally play 4 & 5 are a bonus as I never got around to them. Yes, FF6 is basically soloing my wallet.

I am merely pointing out the inconsistence people have when it comes to their reasoning behind something. And my first post merely jesting at the results so early on.

I was going to buy this day one but just spent a ton on a new roof this week. I’ll wait a few weeks until I refill some savings.

I am fine w/ my WiiU.

@Ninfan

No hope

@ZZalapski No problem!

@BTB20 Why? I watched online gameplay and already determined it is not worth $60. That's a lot of money during an inflation and I'm not dropping it on the sheer hope that it's actually good.

@Bret Never said I only buy flawless games, but Reboot Camp had enough flaws for me to not want it in my collection. The art-style, very cheap looking. Wouldn't be an issue if this game was $40 or $50, but $60? Yeah no. Online features were the biggest factor here for keeping since I can more or less get the same experience on my GBA copies. Only supporting 1v1 with friends was laughable, so I passed in it. AWBW has more online features, that's just sad.

@Everythingnotsaved Remains to be seen how many people actually bought the game that weren't turned off by the art-style or lack of online features. If people simply wanted to re-play the first two AW games, great, but I can already do that without needing to spend $60.

Bought the game yesterday and as much as I want to see it do well, I think it's pretty safe to say it's going to bomb hard. As far as I'm aware it's not even getting a Japanese release.

Not familiar with this series at all, but I'm always open to trying something new. Still have way too many games to play first, though. Thanks, eShop closure...

@Paraka Not gonna lie, I would buy that game day one.

Just picked up my copy earlier today. I'm too big of a fan of the originals to pass on this.

Come on people, stop with the negativity. It's not gonna tank. Give it an opportunity. For me it's a day one!

Maybe in a year or so when it goes on sale for a whopping $55 CAD.

Nothing wrong with the game but 2022 was opportune for it. 2023 is quite loaded with titles and with TotK and Pikmin 4 coming out over the next few months, I don’t mind holding out.

I have Black Hole Sun on GBA, Days of Ruin on DS and Battalion Wars on GC.

Days of Ruin I have around 200+hrs so it’s not even a question if I am a fan or like the series. I just think due to extremely unfortunate circumstances, they missed a good launch window.

I hope those who have never played an Advance Wars game jump in and enjoy. The original games were exceptional and it seems that the experience has more-or-less been translated to the Switch.

Just too many games to get around to so not picking it up just yet. I've added it to my wishlist. Might pick it up with Tears of the Kingdom with my next batch of Game Vouchers!

@YoshiFlutterJump - Whatever floats you, my guy. Likely still sell better than AW because Mario.

Honestly, I wouldn't be as sour for PM if they kept some kind of reward system for all the combat you do. TOK made none of the rewards in battle worth anything.

@Paraka Maybe don’t delay a finished game for a year for a completely pointless reason and release the game at a worse window [yeah right next to Tears sounds wonderful] then maybe more people would have been excited. Sorry I’ll and others will wait for a discount since the game is rightfully a year old that was held back. Doesn’t help that the new art is usual Wayforward Vomit style

@Paraka Personally, I quite like the newer Paper Mario games (though the first two are still the best, of course). The lack of experience points never really bothered me since the battles are the most engaging part of the games anyway, but I understand that not everyone will feel the same way. I suppose that, objectively speaking, it's not a great design choice to remove EXP.

It could very easily go the other way, though...I really don't like playing games in which you have to trudge through old territory in order to get enough EXP for a fair matchup. For me, the sweet spot would be a difficulty curve that expects you to win every battle exactly once. But maybe I just like that because that's how I play, and maybe some people enjoy grinding. I don't know.

I hate what they did with the capture animation. It's so bad. For that alone it's a pass. Not enough done to warrant another playthrough. Expensive price for it, too. I've got Wargroove if I need to scratch the itch.

Is there a demo for it? Seems like a lot of the it's gonna be bad or on the fence comments in here could be resolved by that. OR maybe there just happy being pessimistic.

@YoshiFlutterJump - There is a difference from grinding levels, and making everything you earn in a game be greatly earned outside of battles.

Even ignoring XP, gold and confetti was earned far faster and easier in the overworld. Essentially making non-boss battles an obstacle as opposed to a reward system. Why fight when you already have everything spamming world refreshes in less time?

@Arawn93 - I will absolutely agree with this sentiment. The delay damned this game into oblivion, even an Oct. release would been better.

Releasing between a growing IP of Fire Emblem and the titan itself? Just fire the person who thought that was smart.

WayForward's style is fine by me, but their animations since 1/2 Genie Hero is, and forever be, icky.

@Paraka The way I see it, the right question would be, "Why play the game if you're going to skip the battles?" But I suppose that not everyone thinks this way.

Don't get me wrong, I do think that a proper reward system--even just something like the hammer scraps in Color Splash--would have been a good idea to include in Sticker Star and Origami King. I'm just able to forgive its absence because I enjoy battling enough to do it regardless.

Now, what I'd really love is another Mario & Luigi...but I have my doubts about that ever happening.

@YoshiFlutterJump - The problem isn't you actively skipping battles. You get so much more of everything the battles grant in shorter time, outside of battles.

It negates the sense of accomplishment of moving forward, cause you already did. That was the main trouble with TOK.

The game is quite difficult, still stuck on first level with a medium tank.

It was also a good idea to release it close to Zelda for the digital crowd that use the 2 vouchers 😋

I’ll pick it up when it gets a decent sale price. I’m not too big on strategy games, but I’m willing to give this a chance. If it’s anything close to Military Madness I’m sure I’ll like it.