Bandai Namco Wants Your Feedback On Tales Of Symphonia Remastered

If enough people point out all the objective unforgiveable flaws in this version, maybe they will start to take notice and release a fixed version later on?
...not likely lol. But we definitely should give the feedback anyway.

Will never buy unless they release a fixed version with 60fps and actual better graphics.

This was such a wasted opportunity.

They aren't even willing to take feedback if you haven't played the game, AKA haven't already given them money for it.

Have fun trying to figure out why the sales weren't good, then.

@DrGonzo
ive been hoping for a "definitive" release of that game in the west for a while such as a port of that PSP version released a good while back which had a bunch of improvements to the game such as not pausing while casting spells iirc.

@Tuulenpoika
This was an aspect which bugged me.

Especially considering the various technical issues with the game were the reason why i didn't pick it up since it seems to introduce issues that weren't in the ps3 remaster (which all things considered was an improvement over the ps2 version it was based on even if it didn't have the GameCube's more responsive 60fps)

I didn't buy it because I heard it was broken and crashed a lot, making you lose progress. Is that still the case?
*Edit ahh clearly not fully patched yet. They aren't getting my money until it's fixed.

@DrGonzo
yeah its a pity that the only US releases of the game were the GBA version which from what i gather was not as good as the SNES/SFC version and also this short lived f2p mobile version which was based off a far better version but ruined it by tweaking the game balance and adding a bunch of microtransactions before vanishing for good.

"We can't be bothered to test our own game, so please do it for us."

My feedback would be to do Tales of Destiny 1 & 2.

Well, PS3 version was the only decent option.

@Anti-Matter Isn't the Gamecube version supposed to be the best version? That's what I gather anyway.

@TeaCatherine
From what I found from YouTube, Gamecube version of Symphonia was running in smooth 60 fps but the game was really expensive.
The PS3 version with HD graphic but 30 fps was the only cheaper option in my country Indonesia.
Also, I found the PS3 version included with Wii version in HD.

@Anti-Matter Oh, so it's better but really hard to get? In that case it's understandable, then. It's really annoying how expensive old games can be.

Although I can appreciate Namco Bandai for seeking feedback, the survey seems somewhat ridiculous given how poorly the port was received. The company already has ample information regarding what should be fixed. Unless they plan to release the mother of all updates which makes the game run better and tweaks gameplay elements in response to player feedback, this survey is superfluous.

they dont make the right questions
where is the second game??
why so expensive??
why so lazy with just a stupid port at 30 frame?

still, I love the game

It's amazing how they keep re-releasing this game and every time it gets worse. And that they still haven't figured out a way to get back the 60fps framerate from the original Gamecube version.

fix the game like square-enix did with chrono cross...

@TeaCatherine the gamecube version ran much better, but it was incomplete. The ps2 (and ps3) version ran like snail, but has more content and every character has their mystic artes

My advice is simple: stop re-doing these.

@Savage_Joe Oh, this is beginning to sound like an extremely annoying game.

Should had just port the PS3 bundle. Something that could had easily been a slam dunk port should not had been this complicated.

Just take this:

And port it to these:

It doesn't need to be more complicated than that, the game is already in HD. Y'all just need to move it from a dead console to the alive ones. That's all and don't tell me it's impossible either, y'all did the same with Ni no Kuni and Tales of Vesperia so don't give us the excuse that it's impossible.

@Savage_Joe Having more contents doesn't mean it's more complete. A lot of those contents are just unnecessary fillers to fill the disc with junks. The GameCube version was what the actual main game was suppose to be. Those mystic arte stuff were just bonus move added so to make up for the crappy framerates, they add no importance to the main story of the game unlike the ones already on the GameCube.

I absolutely loved this game and still have in perfect condition running on my old Gamecube.
Now, if this was a true remaster like what Capcom did with Resident Evil 4, then of course I would have bought it. But not only does not add or improve anything, it just runs worse. What kind of feedback are they expecting?

I don’t have it yet but hopefully when I do get it (and eventually play it due to my huge backlog) everything is fixed.

Glad I waited for reviews on this one but hope they take this opportunity to fix this terrible version.

Guess I'll hook up my Gamecube and replay it on there since I still have this game on my shelf.

PLEASE take the survey guys or else Bandai N will keep putting out BS remasters!

Apparently, the poll ignores negative feedback.

What a load of crap. They know they released a bad port and refuses to fix anything.

Reminds me of Capcom with their Switch port of Resident Evil 0. Disaster.

@Tuulenpoika

i get what you are saying but this kind of cuts against your argument:

"They aren't even willing to take feedback if you haven't played the game"

why would they or anyone else specifically want feedback from someone who hasnt played the game?

maybe they should offer a demo and survey only the people who played that.

Did some fibbing, said I was from the UK and put some time into it. I'm US and my copy is still unopened. Yet I felt important to take it. The question to rank your top 5 and lowest 5 was very tough, since of the like 15 options, I wanted to put like 13 of them in the important section.

It's at least a little good that one of the questions listed almost all the major errors I've heard if and seen. They are very aware then what the problems are. Hopefully it doesn't take too long to get an update, like Chrono Cross or games that got none.

I wasn't bothered by the 30fps on things like the ps3 and Steam versions. I value the extracontent, side quests, and moves. And though those are minor to some, another important distinction for some of another language: ps2/ps3/steam version features voiced skits that the GC version didn't have. Sadly that's Japanese only, but if I were making this port, I'd pick the 30fps PS2 version to build off of too.

Hopefully the negative feedback others and I left on the survey help in some way!

This is one of the saddest remaster jobs I've seen from Namco, they were so close to getting a truely perfect streak with Klonoa and the other Encore games!! 😿

Remasters are supposed to greatly improve the game...this was not a remaster, just a recasher.

Wish they’d move on from Symphonia. It hasn’t aged well, and they keep screwing up each subsequent release. Would be cool if Graces F or Hearts R got a rerelease eventually.

@-wc- I'm sure me and many other fans would very much have feedback to give on why they decided not to buy the game.

@Tuulenpoika

i feel like you arent making a critical distinction, between the words "play," and "buy." For example:

"...you haven't played the game, AKA already given them money for it."

@Serpenterror

i think about this all the time. back in the ole cranky Kong days of yore, multiplatform titles were essentially different games. either every single aural and visual element would be subtly (or unsubtly 😬) different, or the game would literally be a different game, like with handheld ports, or trans-generational ports.

now its like they are afraid that if they just port the game for us to buy, they are unwittingly somehow killing other possibilities for revenue. at least thats my guess.

@-wc- I'm talking from a general consumer's perspective, who would have to pay for the game in order to play it if they'd want to get the game the legitimate way.

Of course there is a way for someone to get access to the game without paying for it, but that is missing the general point. The point being, if people would fill the survey by the rules set by the publisher, the people with the most issues with the release to the point of not wanting to buy it would be excluded, basically leaving a good chunk of the potential customer base with guaranteed negative feedback unaccounted for by design.

If this survey's goal was to find out what went wrong with this release, leaving out the segment of potential buyers who flat out refused to give them money for it after finding out about the state of the end product would work against said goal.

@Tuulenpoika

is it your understanding that you are not legally allowed to play any games that you did not buy? i can think of at least two examples off the top of my head of legal ways to play a game without buying it, besides the one i already gave before.

@Tuulenpoika

to the rest of your comment, you seem to be arguing that they are avoiding negative feedback by surveying paying customers. again, i get what you are saying.

on the other hand, it follows that you are also arguing that paying customers are disproportionately happy with the game, which kind of cuts against your whole thing, right?

edited for snark. (sorry.)

From what I gather from the Switch Remaster it's the same version of half-assed Remaster we got on Steam as a bonus for pre-ordering Zestiria. I think even modder had an hard time to even make it work at 60FPS