Uh Oh, It Looks Like The Mario Movie Blu-ray Steelbook Release Date Leaked

Do people actually still buy DVD's and Blu Rays?

edit... for the record I know people obviously do still buy them. my comment was kind of tongue in cheek...... I just honestly can't remember the last time I bought one myself.... between various streaming site and a dodgy fire stick I simply don't have the need for them anymore

Mammma-Mia Mammma-mia

Is it too late to pull the movie? This is beyond disastrous.

@Member_the_game People that don't want to be tied to a specific service for the rest of their lives do, I think.

Even though i don't watch movies through DVD's anymore, this would be an awesome addition to any collection and the box art looks amazing too!

@Member_the_game
Of course, I only buy discs. 4K and Blu-ray, and sometimes even crappy DVDs.

I don't have a Blue ray player or streaming, so having a DVD will be awesome! I also hope Nintendo let's us download it from the eShop to watch anytime on our switches

@Member_the_game I buy steelbook versions of my favourite movies, I will probably get this as I had a lot of childhood nostalgia for Mario, and the movie looks great!!

@Member_the_game Quite a few people do, actually. I'm one of them. Not everything is on streaming services, after all. Plus, what if you don't have an Internet connection, or one good enough for streaming? That's where Blu-Rays and DVDs come in handy.

I just wish that the DVD versions of movies and TV shows would include all the special features that are on the Blu-Ray versions. As of this last decade or so, it seems like all the DVD versions have are just the movie, a couple of different audio tracks, subtitles, and maybe a commentary track from the director or actors; whereas the Blu-Ray versions get all the bonus features (including my personal favorite, outtakes/bloopers).

@Member_the_game Only really for collector's purposes or if you like the series. I don't think I've ever seen anyone irl have a Blu ray though.

@Member_the_game I do. I hate subscription based services so I still buy them when I want them. Which admittedly isn't much as I really only buy my favorites, but I refuse to get services like Netflix.

To be fair, we already knew it was hitting digital fairly soon after a theatrical release. There is almost no incentive to hit a theater for 20 bucks anymore

@Wheatly

That's pretty much what I did. I worked on the basis that if I'd forgotten that I owned it then it could go.

The only things I kept was things that were extremely rare and stuff that wasn't likely to be available on a streaming device anywhere.

I used to love having a big collection but it reached a point where I simply ran out of storage space

4K blu rays with full fat Dolby Vision and Atmos on a good AV set up, is the best way to watch still.

@Member_the_game No, they don't

(just restoring some balance here haha)

Wait, is it Blu-Ray or DVD? My equipment can only read DVDs (AFAIK).

Yeah, streaming films is great.
Until your internet goes down.
Physical media all the way.

Ehh, rather pay slightly less, go watch it with some friends, and have a good time of it.

I haven't bought a BD or DVD in years. Used to be in the camp of physical media for movies and games, but as time went on and streaming became infinitely easier, I started gravitating towards the services. Less clutter in my place for stuff I genuinely only rewatch once every couple years at most.

A lot of people are definitely getting fired....

I'll definitely get it on 4K ...if it's good enough.

4K Blu- ray is highly underrated as the quality can be sublime, if you get the right titles. Some transfers are garbage. I recommend checking blu-ray.com to see if it's worth it. Apocalypse Now and Back to the Future, especially ...are absolutely gorgeous. As a film lover, it's the only format where you can essentially get a 1:1 30mm transfer.

I’m so excited to get the movie after I see it in theaters, it’s gonna be so awesome 🤩🤩🤩

@Member_the_game I only buy steelbooks of certain franchises I enjoy - but I think streaming services removing content from their platforms without notice makes people wary - i'll be for sure picking up the steelbook of this as part of my collection of Nintendo memorabilia, but i'd never purchase the standard blu-ray. It does still shock me that DVDs are still in print but they're still one of the most common disc media that people still buy even though its content is 480p

@Member_the_game Yep, although impulse purchases for films I haven't seen have been killed thanks to streaming. Streaming sites only have a limited selection of films and TV shows though, and most don't rival the quality of a 4k blu ray (4k streaming isn't the same). Not to mention one of the best and most underappreciated features of dvd/Blu-ray: scene selection. If there's a film I really want to watch multiple times and any time I want, physical is the way to go.

@Member_the_game Ho yes I do, DVD, Blurays, I don't want to be the salve of paying services for the rest of my life.

@Member_the_game
For me personally I still do. If it's a movie Franchise or show that I really love then I'll buy a blu ray copy of it.

The 4kUHD better not be a store exclusive!

I'll be skipping the theater for this one.
In fact, ever since I built my home theater, I skip all theater presentations.
My home theater is so much better than the two local theaters.
The last movies I saw in theaters were Sonic the Hedgehog and New Mutants.
Sonic was great, New Mutants was horrible and I was really looking forward to that one.

@AstroTheGamosian
You need to upgrade.
PQ and AQ is so much better on Blu and especially 4k

@Wheatly
Charity will sell them. You should have.

@Member_the_game Quality is far greater from disc. You don't have to worry about poor bit-rates/bandwidth/file compatibility issues etc.. and I'm someone who does download/stream. Much prefer discs for movies though.

There's also the issue of having to pay a monthly fee for streaming and the issue of shows/movies being removed from services.

@Vil
While the 4kUHD of Back to the Future is a huge improvement over the BD, it still could have been so much better if Universal actually cared and did a proper restoration.

@Wheatly I did exactly the same last year. It’s weirdly liberating, isn’t it?

I did keep a handful, films that aren’t currently on streaming here

I wouldn't say that's a leak. All movies get released to physical media approximately 2-3 months after the box office release.

I always prefer physical media. It feels like you are actually purchasing something whereas digital purchases could easily disappear.

Guess I gotta do your job for you, Nintendolife 😉

@Assassin166

I don't disagree with you regarding quality. In my defense I don't really watch a lot of Movies and those that I do watch tend to be a case of 1 and I'm done. I no longer feel the need for a big collection of films I may or may not watch once in a blue Moon.

Don't get me wrong I do still have a few classics on Blu-ray from my childhood that I'd never part with, Back to the Future trilogy, Leathal weapon just to give you a few examples.

At home we have Sky Movies, Netflix, Amazon prime and Disney plus and if after all of that I'm still struggling to find something to watch I have IPTV on my Fire stick which allows me to watch virtually anything I want.

I reached a point in my life where less clutter and more space was more valuable to me than a cool collection of DVD's and Blu-rays

Personally, I prefer the look of this steelbook 😄

Hopefully this edition will be available in the UK.
Quite a few 4K blurays I've had to import from the US recently (good thing 4K blurays are region free!) as not available here.
Conveniently got a 7.1.2 setup with Atmos sound on a 120" screen via projector, so if Universal/Illumination do a good transfer, should be good!👍

I'm just hoping they definitely make sure to release a 3D version of the movie. I'd really love to be able to watch this inside my VR headset on a giant private virtual cinema screen in full stereoscopic 3D.

@RetroGames
I am still deciding on whether to watch this film in digital 3D or 35mm 2D.
Each have their pros and cons. But when I saw Avatar 1: Remastered in standard digital 3D, it was the exact same price as standard digital 2D. There is one 35mm cinema near where I used to live and one conveniently next to a train station, and it is much cheaper than digital cinemas. Plus the analogue film aesthetic is just gorgeous. But I lose that sweet 3D effect. And I want to keep both 3D and celluloid film alive.
I am still torn between these two options.

@Vil Yeah. Only exceptions are with DNR’d releases like Terminator 2 or the Pirates of the Caribbean films (only Dead Men Tell No Tales aka. Salazar’s Revenge looks great in 4K, the other ones look and sound much better on standard 1080p Blu-ray, except On Stranger Tides, which looks outright amazing in Blu-ray 3D).

@Wheatly
Pawn, video stores, local collectors of which I am two of those, Video Store and collector, will always buy and in bulk.
Some money is better than no money.

@Member_the_game
How dare you use sarcasm in a Nintendo forum!?
I appreciate it. Apparently some regard video games and movies as more than just entertainment, though. To each their own.

@Hydra_Spectre Its a CGI animated movie that has never touched a frame of film in its life. If you want the 3D effect, watch it in digital 3D. Even if you settle on a cheaper 2D showing, there's no advantage in watching a film print of it as oposed to a decent DCP. Infact, a 4K DCP will give the exact result that the artists working on the film intended for you to see and were looking at as they made and edited the movie.

Depending on the production, I am a movie producer, director, cinematographer, animator, vfx supervisor or editor by trade, have been in the industry over 2 decades wearing many hats. I absolutely LOVE to shoot on 35mm film on the rare ocasion I'm offered it as an option. I love to see a good quality projection of a well preserved reel of film, its gorgeous, a unique aesthetic, and I love your enthusiasm for keeping it alive, so please don't take the following as a criticism or rant, its more me sharing my passion for this specific subject.

Sadly, shooting on 35mm film is increasingly rare nowadays, as its very expensive, no new 35mm cameras are being made by the major manufactureres that the Hollywood system use because its compatible with all their lenses and rigs. You know "Panavision"? well their last film model was made in 2004 (you can still rent them) and their current cameras are digital and actually based on rebranded RED 8k digital cameras (Panaflex DXL and DXL2 from 2018.) Similarly, ARRI only make digital cameras these days, and if you want to shoot with film you have to rent a "Impeccably maintained" vintage camera from their archives, and thats becoming harder and more expensive as they are degrading over time.

However, even if a film or series IS shot on film, there is 99.99% certainty on any major project that film is then digitised before its edited, pretty much all post production is digital nowadays, because its not only cheaper, but more precise, allows more controls and options, better control of colour correction, easier integration of digital effects, compositing, titles, credits etc, and also is the only realistic way to add other language versions and content versions for tv/airlines, accesibility features like closed captions, etc.

As long as its a good quality scan, high quality render and DCP, thats the same image with all the same qualities and minor imperfections that make it look beautiful as if you were watching directly from the film itself, because they are editing the picture the analogue camera and film captured.

Taking that digitally edited DCP output and putting it back onto 35mm film is actually degrading the picture beyond what you'd get from a first generation print, by doubling the softness and limiting the colour ranges, adding a second layer of grain to the existing grain, etc.

@Hydra_Spectre TLDR (kinda! I type a lot): Only films shot on film, edited with true analogue processes, and then projected from reproductions of that film, will actually give a truly better experience when watching a 35mm projection. That only exists in a tiny number of indie and arthouse projects for modern films, though of course many arty cinemas will still show vintage reels of major filmd from teh pre-digital era. A high quality DCP projection of a modern movie that was shot on film but digitally edited will have a more accurate representation of the "analogue" picture the film recorded. For films both shot and edited digitally (ie 99% of Hollywood and indie output nowadays) there is no question, high quality DCP is better.

And yes, I know that's dissapointing. I'm a cinephile, I get it. I love the ease, cost saving, flexibility etc given by digital options but its a shame that true analogue filmmaking doesn't really exist in the modern age, meaning film projection is no longer needed and actually inferior to good quality DCP, even for the handful of modern films still shot on 35mm. Theres definitely a lost art of film editing. You'd be hard pressed to find a film school that teaches it nowadays.

For something like CG animation that is entirely digital, watch it digitally, whether 2d or 3d. Its what the artists themselves were using to create the art. Or, if there is a little indie cinema near you that doesn't have a digital projector, feel free to support them and watch the analogue projection of a digital film - it will still look fine. But don't kid yourself that its somehow better, its not, its worse. Its only better for films shot AND edited on film.

Sorry for the mini rant, hope you, or someone else, finds it interesting. I'm very passionate about this stuff!

I do enjoy buying DVDs and Blu-ray’s once in a while for some reasons. 1). Having a young kid. The internet goes down and they want to watch their favorite show, boom got the disc.
2) Can rip the disc and put on a network drive for viewing wherever you want it to.
3). Streaming service are not always consistent in quality and will eventually drop shows due to licensing.
Not a fix all but works for me in some cases.

what? the film will be in cinemas only for two months?

@Adamn The film will be in cinemas as long as it is profitable for it to remain there, but the "exclusive" windows where its ONLY in theatres are becoming shorter and shorter in todays markets.

Nowadays the traditionally exclusive "theatrical window" often overlaps with the traditional secondary "premium window" ie digital rentals/sales and full price optical sales. I see this more and more as a growing trend preferred by distributors at AFM each year.

Its likely it won't start streaming until the theatrical release is over, but the premium rentals and sales just squeeze extra cash from those who don't want to wait to stream for "free" but didn't want to go to the cinema. However, even this is starting to shrink and overlap with many companies pushing for "free" (subscription) streaming windows to be combined with the premium rental/sales, as services such as Netflix and Amazon pay more upfront for onboarding the closer it is to thetraical release. They pay the highest for day and date, but of course this heavily eats into box office so most major studios push against this, though its innevitable for most indies.

@Member_the_game I do.

@Wheatly
You donating to a "charity" is not helping.
All they do is take free stuff and sell them.
Nearly all "charity" establishments in the US are profit makers.
Almost none are Not-for-Profit.

Just saw that you used Quid.
I hope your charities are better than ours.

I went through a time when I was buying DVDs and Blue Rays several times each month. Then I realized that for most movies, I only watched once and that's it. Stopped buying them. If I really want to see a movie again, I will check my many streaming services first, and if not on them, I will just rent it. Funny thing is that it is very hard to resell these DVDs these days. Not many buy them anymore.

We buy DVD & Blu-Ray discs from time to time. Streaming is nice and convenient, but there are also those films that are rotated off the platforms from time to time, so having the disc available is handy.

@Member_the_game Yes. For the same reason that people buy physical games if they are released.

@jorel262

Not really the best comparison. If you buy a game digitally it's still yours to play whenever you want in the same way a physical copy would be.

Streaming a film is slightly different as you don't own it, usually it'll be part of a subscription service.

Just an FYI I do buy probably 95% of my games physically. Mainly because they're cheaper and if I don't like the game (or simply when I've finished with it) I can sell it on or trade it in towards my next purchase.

You can buy digital movies too, and even if I have a projector with a 100inch screen and a Dolby atmos sound bar with a subwoofer and satellite speakers I still go to theater to watch movies because the experience is not the same. I don't go as often as before COVID but I still go to theater from time to time.

I've actually really gotten into buying Blu-Rays (& some 4K UHD discs as well) within the past year. Mostly anime, but I've been trying to add in more live action/Hollywood stuff recently as well.

Will almost certainly nab this Steelbook once it releases (will also try to see the movie in theatres, especially since that's practically the only way to see a movie in 3D these days).

Mark my calendar! The last physical movie I bought was… JOKER in 2020. It’s been awhile.

As an old grumpy man that grew up in the 80s and 90s, it saddens me to see the decline of malls and movie theaters. I'm sure young people do things far more productive than I did when I was young, but outside of sports — movies, malls, and arcades were our social lives.

@samuelvictor Digital films get a film aesthetic to them when printed out to 35mm film.
I saw a fan preservation of a 35mm print of Revenge of the Sith (one of the very first 100% digital live action films) and it looks great. And the CGI blends better.
I also saw many other digital films printed out to 35mm in that cinema, and they looked great, with a new sense of soul that was lost with digital filmmaking.
There are even digitally-shot/animated films that have had artificial 35mm effects applied on them for digital prints, such as Studio Ghibli’s films and Knives Out. The rare 35mm prints do not have this artificial effect as the filmout process inherently makes an authentic one instead.

@Hydra_Spectre Well, yes, but as I elluded to, what is happening is the process of moving an all digital movie to film is actually softenning the image and both crunching and blowing out some of the colour. Film stock adds a light organic grain to the image. Of course a slight wobble and jerky can be added by the movement of the 24 images per second through a mechanism as well.

I can see how you may enjoy the look, and an all digital film may feel more old school with it - ironically though modern films which were shot on film to try and recreate the look, but edited digitally, will look much worse when put back onto film as it doubles the artifacts and will look more like a poorly maintained reel.

That said, I'm 100% with you on the "digitally recreating the film aesthetic" like with the Ghibli films - its actually something I've been doing this very afternoon - adding a softness and colour limter, as well as an overlay of true organic grain from scanned 35mm film to a digitally shot film for Amazon Prime. Makes the otherwise super sharp abnd quite hardsh looking footage feel far more filmic. And as you mentioned, it also helps the composited CGI and greenscreen footage blend together better.

But thats something an increasing number of modern films do -
I'm asked to do it on almost every post production job I do nowadays, so again, pushing that to film will double the artifacts and make it worse, ironically because the editors are trying to recreate the look that you enjoy!

I didn't mean to criticise your enjoying of traditionally projected films though, as I said, its something I love and mourn the loss of, and I try to recreate those aesthetics digitally with new projects. Just thought you might find it interesting or food for thought as to which media will and won't look better in which circumstance.

@samuelvictor There are also some digital films where the original digital files are lost, so they used filmouts for the home video releases.
This happened most notably with The Prince of Egypt, but it’s not the only one.
28 Days Later and The Celebration (Festen) were shot on PAL DigiBeta, and the original files were lost, so they had to use a filmout for the Blu-ray releases. 28 Days Later does have some 16mm and 35mm scenes so it makes sense too.
The Rescuers Down Under, the very first pure digital feature film, is also lost, so they had to use a filmout even for the Blu-ray and Disney+ releases, when Disney was the one to popularise pure digital transfers with A Bug’s Life and Tarzan’s DVD releases.

Most early digital films not from Disney have their original files lost. Anastasia, Titan A.E., Balto, Antz, even films as late as Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius and Rugrats Go Wild, only have the filmouts surviving.
Even a film as recent as 2007’s Evangelion:1.01 You Are (Not) Alone., had a filmout on the DVD release, but the remastered DVD/Blu-ray releases called Evangelion:1.11 You Are (Not) Alone. was a pure digital transfer.
The filmout process has also been used recently for some modern digital films for aesthetic purposes, such as Dune 2021 and The Batman.
Another film that had the film effects applied similar to Ghibli’s films and Knives Out was Chip ‘n Dale Rescue Rangers 2022. Rian Johnson’s series Poker Face also had a similar effect.

35mm projection is also great for the rare films edited on film, like Christopher Nolan’s films and Quentin Tarantino’s films.

@Hydra_Spectre Yes, I know people that worked on both Dune and The Batman. Both were shot digitally with Arri Alexa range cameras, probably the LF or similar. They were shot and edited entirely digitally, before finally transfering to film once complete, to get that "look" of adding the grain, softness and difference in colour range. Thats an expensive way to do something entirely possible to do digitally (like I said, its very common for me to be asked to do this nowadays, to give the aesthetic to digital films) but it would have meant the few occasions you'd see them actually being projected, they would have looked how the director/editors intended. The problem of course is that this is very rare, whereas its common for the artifacts to be added to a DCP, and then converting this to film would double up the artifacts, as I mentioned. Its growing pains, I guess. No perfect solution.

Nice to see you mention some Don Bluth films. I studied with Don for 2 years and is one of my greatest mentors. I recently did an interview about my time with him for the Disney Hyperion Review podcast, if you are interested

@Member_the_game I buy BluRays just to have a streaming war of my own against the 100 streaming services that want you to pay $15 each a month. Just means I have more legit control over my library.

@samuelvictor I have read all your posts, and I found them very insightful and interesting to read! Thank you for sharing your knowledge of the industry.

@Hydra_Spectre Just re-read your previous post and saw that you mentioned Chris Nolan's movies, as "edited on film". He may do the assembly cut on film but I promise you its then digitised and finished off on computer - because all of his films have copious visual effects. The only reason I felt compelled to mention this is to name drop (hopefully in a way that is interesting) - I studied visual effects with Paul J Franklin, who was Visual Effects Supervisor of Inception, Interstellar, and the Dark Knight Trilogy. Working with Chris won him a couple of Oscars!

I got him to break down and explain quite a few of the iconic "impossible" looking shots from those films, and explain how they were made, and how one might recreate them on a lower budget with consumer software and a gaming pc. He so inspired me to push myself to make more ambitious shots and not just keep making cheap and easy budget movies for a quick buck. Those conversations were what lead down the path to me nowadays producing a major superhero film!

@Ulysses Hey, thanks very much! I'm always glad to hear when my long rambling posts actually get read and enjoyed by someone! (if you are interested in more stories of the film industry including my time on Star Wars, and the superhero stuff mentioned above, the link to my book is on my Nintendolife profile! haha.

Seriously though, thank you for the kind words.

Seems super odd to me to imagine people still want to collect plastic chunks for movies?!

People collect movies still?! Whaaaattt.

@theModestMouse Myself and a bunch of friends used to make super low budget (£15k-30k) straight-to-DVD films for the UK market - we'd sell 100,000 copies to a wholesaler for £1 each to put in supermarkets for £3.99 each. Nice profit each time, rinse and repeat. But once Broadband speeds became fast enough to easily pirate movies, the orders went down to 25,000 copies... and once Netflix came in, it was more like 5000 if you were lucky. To this day, "most" films aren't worth releasing on DVD/Blu-Ray in large numbers.

However, enthusiasts for specific genres or brands still very much want to curate collections. Marvel, Star Wars, etc movies still sell very well, not because people want to watch the discs, necessarily, but they want it on their shelf as part of the collection. Other people collect all movies with their favourite actor or director. Others collect b-movie horror films, or monster movies, or sci-fi, or whatever it is they are into.

Similar to vinyl, even people without a specific "collection" seem to collect very specific films that are personal to them. For example, someone may stream or download a new movie every day, but every few months they'll discover a new "favourite movie" that they rave about to their friends and want to show to other people and just feel like they will want to watch it over and over. Even if they will probably watch the streaming or downloaded file for convenience, there is a high likelihood they'll want to own it on Blu-Ray as well, to feel some ownership of it, or like they are supporting the creators, or as a talking point to show people... often these movies that people specifically emotionally attach to are indie movies or obscure titles no-one's heard of, that they feel deserve a bigger audience and more appreciation than just being streamed and forgotten about.

For me, that has manifested itself in me actually selling a steady stream of DVDs and Blu-Rays of films myself and my friends have produced - but rather than manufacturing 100k at a time and expecting warehouse to buy them and put them on shelves hoping for impulse purchases from random people hoping for an evening's entertainment watching something they'll never think of again, instead we manufacture 1000 at a time, and wait for individuals to purchase on Amazon, and we ship them directly to genuine fans of the film - at a much higher markup per unit than we used to make. I also go to a lot of comic-cons and events, and put of screenings in rented cinemas and at festivals, and you sell LOADS of copies to people in person - if they meet you, they want to buy a copy, get you to sign it, and then its a talking piece for their collection.

TLDR: Yes, people do still buy them, and the numbers are steadily increasing after a major drought when Netflix was a novelty... but people specifically buy and curate movies they have already seen and know that they love, and are willing to pay full price. The days of impulse purchases of budget titles is long gone, but curated "collections" ala vinyl are very much in, and seem to be growing as people realise that streaming services are not "forever".

@theModestMouse And for me as a consumer, yes I gave most of my DVDs and Blu-Rays to charity before I moved country to save putting them into storage or transporting them over seas, but I've definitely got a small but carefully crafted collection of films I felt I just HAD to own, and I probably buy 5 or so a year, each of which has a story attached as to why I love it or why I want to own it forever.

For example, in 2018 I saw a random movie on the plane to Florida and I was so blown away by how much I loved it and wanted to show it to everyone that I spent waaaaay too long during an expensive holiday obsessively going into every supermarket and department store we passed hoping to find it on Blu-Ray, as a souvenir. I finally found it on the last day before we flew home, and it felt like discovering treasure! I know I could have just waited til I got home and ordered it online but the hunt, and bringing it back from another country made it feel more special, and I still treasure it to this day. (The movie was Brigsby Bear, btw. Highly recommend if you like weird retro-tinged indie films with a heart.)

I'm sure when people buy a film from me at a convention or screening, a lot of the time its because of the emotion and story attached to it. "We met the director of this film at a charity screening, he was really nice and took a photo with our son" etc. I feel very privilidged to become a story that someone passes through their family or friends and affects their life in some way. Maybe one day years later they find the dvd and remember meeting me, or where they first saw the film, etc.

Often I attach key memories and emotions to where I first saw a film, just as people do to music. If there is a movie I watched on a particularly nice date, or went to see with my mum on a rare visit, or reminds me of some specific happy time in my childhood, that goes on the list of "movies that mean more to me than just something I randomly streamed, enjoyed, then forgot about".

I know I said this already but it really is like people who have Spotify subscriptions, but still want to own very specific records on vinyl (or CDs, cassette, whatever) because they are important to them.

@Member_the_game
Certainly they are. When the Meta AI finally corrupts win 12 and your streaming service is down we will be spinning our collection data and license free.