Hideo Kojima games not only feature the creator's name a few hundred times, they're also well known for being loaded with licensed content. This can be in the form of iconic music or even video clips to tie games into real history, a clever bit of storytelling often deployed in the Metal Gear series. Of course, licensed content often has an agreement expiry date, which impacted a number of legacy Metal Gear releases last year.
Among many other versions across different systems, Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D dropped off the 3DS eShop last November. It disappeared on 8th November last year - Konami cited "historical archive footage" as the issue and promised it was a temporary measure, though having checked this morning the game is still missing on the EU eShop. It's unclear whether Konami plans to replace the footage in the game, negotiate renewals for the footage or simply do nothing and hope no-one notices.
Either way, doublexp.com took a look at how the delisting had impacted the pricing of the physical edition on auction sites. It wasn't exactly over-printed back in the day, especially in North America, but the initial impact (according to pricecharting) was minimal, with the small market of people following the game likely expecting the digital version to reappear. After all, when there are downloadable versions of games that typically holds down the price for standard second-hand cartridges.
From late February prices on physical editions (even just loose cartridges) have at least doubled, coinciding with Nintendo's announcement regarding the closure of the 3DS and Wii U eShop stores. It shows the market realisation that the download version may be gone for good unless Konami gets it back online before March 2023. It does vary per region - a look in the UK shows that you can still get loose cartridges at a low price as demand is low. On US-equivalent listings, though, base prices are noticeable higher as sellers try to cash in on the inevitable scarcity of the game.
It's an interesting little case study, in any case, showing that the closure of the 3DS (and Wii U) eShop doesn't just affect download games, but has potential knock-on effects on the second-hand physical edition markets.
Cool conversion but runs at around 5fps
@Orokosaki it is not THAT bad but it is kinda bad but the portable novelty is kinde cool.
Bought this game for 10-15€ in a bargain bin.
The 3D effect is intense, too intense for such big environments in low-resolution and low frame rate.
I give my money, not for honour, but for yooooooooooooooou.
Do have it digitally thankfully, but a physical copy would be nice if I see one (unlikely).
Forgot that this port exists. The 3DS had some strange ports
I have it on PlayStation 3 much better & smother graphics than on the 3ds
Honestly, on a New 3DS system, this port is not bad at all. It has crouch walking and Yoshi, and it's pretty great if you want MGS3 portably.
Is the 3DS not region-free? Why don't US shoppers just buy the UK cartridge given it's so much cheaper?
if you are used to playing the PS2, this is basically unplayable on 3DS. it is horrific. Get an old PS2 and play the OG. 1000 times better.
It's a shame this never got patched to support the New 3DS's analogue nub, as when played with the circle pad this was the best version of the game. The New 3DS could probably have done something for the frame rate too.
Unless I'm mistaken, the only way to make use of the New 3DS' added processing power and memory would be to use custom firmware. It lets you run old 3DS games in New 3DS mode, but potentially introducing stability issues in doing so.
You have to run custom firmware to bypass the 3DS system's region lock, unfortunately.
Despite the clunky camera controls and the apparent absence of any kind of antialiasing, this is my favorite port of MGS3.
Got the PS3 bundle back in the day, which was great value. Double-dipped and got the Vita bundle too, but I've long since traded that in when my Vita started to die.
Played it on 3ds, later on Vita.
3ds one is a very impressive port but… if I had to pick, the Vita one has much more stable performance.
However none is perfect though, unless on PS3 but that is not a handheld.
Yeah, I'm happy with the PS3 collection I got for like $10. Still need to get around to playing these games one day, though...
If you have a New 3DS, definitely pick it up if you get it at a decent price.
CeX is probably the cheapest in the UK at the moment, but then it's a gamble on the quality of the case etc when ordering online. eBay prices are already rising...
Picked it up at the start of the console’s life, still have it physically thankfully.
Still got my copy downloaded, luckily. The modernized control scheme and crouch walking make this my preferred port to revisit (despite the low framerate).
Snake eater has a special place in my heart .. but playing on 3ds is not ideal... Not worth it for clunky controls or blurry visuals and poor performance.. better off playing it on ps3 or 360 or on emulators on PC
@Rob3008 The 3DS is region locked. One of Nintendo's most ridiculous moves ever when you consider boy the DS and GBA were region-free.
Glad I picked this one up years ago. I paid €5 for a brand new copy!
This is actually the most played game on my 3DS
@BulkSlash Don’t know what you mean: it did get patched. Technically, it was patched for the Circle Pad Pro which then made it compatible with the built-in New 3DS nub.
SOURCE: I personally have the game and new 3DS.
Agreeing with a lot of the comments on frame rate but it’s totally playable and is quite an impressive feat nonetheless.
@Rob3008 I thought 3DS was region locked but DS was not.
@ChromaticDracula Last time I tried it the nub did nothing, but it's been years since I last played it. Maybe I didn't download the patch as it's not automatic on the 3DS.
@smithyo that's so untrue. The game plays well, especially with a Circle Pad Pro or a newer 3DS model.
It’s both an awful port and a great port. Adding the crouch walk and simplified CQC from later MGS titles makes the gameplay a lot smoother. So in some ways, it’s the best playing version of MGS3.
On the other hand, the frame rate is terrible and it’s missing the majority of the extras and bonuses found in pretty much every other release of MGS3, with the exception of the original, non-subsistence PS2 version.
Overall, I’d say it’s a fascinating port more than anything.
@Whalehome That’s correct
Rarity and value generally creates an interest and increases prices, it also brings in the criminal element trying to bypass them.
Okay Konami time to give us a Metal Gear Collection.
There's kind of a similar situation going on with another early 3DS title, Tales of the Abyss. The key difference is that it never received a digital eShop release.
❗️I re-have 'MGS: Snake Eater'; I initially bought it CIB form CEx for £15, sold it on E-Bay for the same price, INSTANTLY regretted it and bought it for £30 🤦🏽♂️
I feel bad I have only ever played part one when it debuted on PSone. By the time part 2 came out I was playing on Gamecube and never got a PS2. It's a shame all the Metal Gear games aren't easily available on newer platforms.
I remember playing this and enjoying it. It was a pleasant surprise for me. I did play it on the New 3DS, by the way.
Lol it's permanently available to download. But I've played a little bit of it just because it's a port on a 3ds of all things. But it's awful. Still keeping it cause it cost me nothing except storage space I guess
If you didn't have the circle pad pro monstrosity attached to your 3DS it was unplayable. if you did though (I bought one specifically for this game) then it was a great experience, for me anyway. On NEW 3DS I imagine you wouldn't have that kind of problem though I don't know how good that C-Stick is on New 3DS since I don't own one, but I imagine its small size potentially being an issue. Glad I still have my own copy anyway.
Best thing about this port imo is that you could walk whilst crouched. None of the other ports allowed this (to my knowledge) instead, when moving whilst crouched put you in to the prone position on your belly.
@Dragonite89 has better gameplay on 3DS, and it actually has reworked textures and animations as well.
@Rob3008 it isn't unfortunately
This is the best version of the game, and by far, my favorite 3DS game. The 3D effect is so well done, and the gameplay has great additions, like behind the back aiming and being able to walk while crouching. Interesting that some people complain about the button configuration, since it has the same mapping that Peace Walker has on PSP, and that console had an awful circle pad, and no touch screen.
It’s got the best core gameplay of any version of MGS3, for sure. Performance wise, it has a terrible frame rate. It’s also missing a lot of extras that pretty much every other version of the game has.
It’s overall an interesting version of MGS3, with a lot going for it. However, it’s missing way too much and has too many technical issues to be called the best version.
I'm glad I bought a complete copy a few years ago then in that case.
It still amazes me to this day the level of detail in snake eater. There are hours upon hours of codec calls and if you really dive into them you can get into some funny stuff. Try using the codec to call para medic whenever you eat something for example, she'll give you information about what you just ate and can often lead to some pretty funny exchanges. That's the attention to detail that really impresses me with video games.
I purchased mine last June before the delisting glad I did now.
Still have my copy from years ago. It was the first MGS game I ever played and boy was it a wild ride.
lol stick to my Vita version.
I have the first 4 games on my PS3 but I wouldn't mind getting this again if they decide to release it on Switch
@Rob3008 The 3ds is in fact regionlocked
@RupeeClock Oh. I don't have a regular 3DS, so I can't say anything about the comparison, but it performs fine for me.
Playing this on my original 3DSXL with a circle pad pro in the early 3ds days just blew my freaking mind. It's still the only version of the game I've played and to this day I have no clue how they made it work.
@khululy the sequence at the end does get that bad
I wouldn't care if this game is bad port or not. It's still MGS. It's a shame I didn't get this game on time. I wouldn't pay $138 at Facebook Marketplace for physical copy. Scalpers should be ashamed to themselves.
Wow, got it just in time then!! 😮😁Made sure to pick up the circle pad pro too!
3DS port was the coolest port all yoshi is hidden diffrent location
They should port Snake Eater and Twin Snakes for switch finally!!!! Those games are already on Nintendo systems anyways- and how hard would it be to bring a GC and ps2/3DS games over…, yes you are correct, NOT difficult! Do something Konami! Or just give us the damn HD collection with Twin Snakes in it or at lease the ps1 version of MGS!!!!!!!
gladly I gotten my physical copy about 5 years ago in person at gamestop. really did enjoy the ps2 version of Subsistence as a teenager especially for the 1st MGO content which was really awesome but was very pleased to see it for the 3DS version on the go.
Better do another article about your WATA friends because you know they've got their hands in this pie. I somehow fail to believe a MGS title was under manufactured to the point it's a rare find. Then again that GameCube MG VR game was overly pricey still even when the Wii had just came out...
Crazy. This used to be one of the cheaper games to get
@RushDawg frame rate is stable, I never saw a performance problem, 3D is great, gameplay is fantastic, and the base MGS3 had nothing but the Monkey mode, Subsistence only had the first two MG games, and that's not a great miss. And you can play it anywhere, and that's a huge plus.
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