Nintendo has shared an update regarding The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2: it's being delayed until 2023.
Originally scheduled for a 2022 release — and reconfirmed for that launch window last month (albeit with 'temp.' appended) — series boss Eiji Aonuma presented the short update and apologised to fans who had been expecting to play the game some time this year.
He goes on to mention again the sequel's sky-based gameplay and assure fans that the development team is hard at work on what is still officially called "The Sequel to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild":
"In order to make the game's experience something special, the entire development team is continuing to work diligently on this game, so please wait a while longer."
The apology video featured a small snippet of new footage showing Link holding what looks like a gnarly Master Sword, too.
It's a blow for fans who might have hoped to be playing the sequel to the celebrated original — which was released alongside the Switch five years ago on 3rd March 2017 — this Holiday season. However, many Zelda fans will have been rightly sceptical about the release date as the series has a history of delays.
Feel free to commiserate with us below and let us know if you thought this one was going to be delayed. Also, if you're going to make an apology video, always get a good haircut beforehand. Aonuma-san's looking sharp, right?!
- Further reading: Zelda: Breath Of The Wild 2: Everything We Know So Far
It wouldn’t be a 3D Zelda game without a few delays. Much prefer that they take all the time they need to get it perfect than rush it out so this is all good by me. Already so many other games releasing this year anyway.
I’m so excited to play BOTW 2 December 2023!
Edit: This is sarcasm.
Looks like Elden Ring will win GOTY then
Removed - unconstructive
Yup, figured as much. Fine with me since this year is already packed as it is.
Awww man, so bummed out. I was really hoping for a release this year. And still no official title either. The least they could've done was tell us a name, finally!
At least they hit us with a tiny bit of new info.
A proper look at Link's face after the mysterious events underground, and, well, watch the video for yourself!
Now Elden Ring can have GOTY this year and Zelda next year!
March 3rd 2023 happens to be friday. Just saying
Liking Aonuma's new haircut!
It depends on how good God of War Ragnarok is.
It’ll come down between those two.
As much as I loved Forbidden West, I don’t think it has what it takes to get in. Although I think it may win a best graphics award. Game is stunningly beautiful.
As for Zelda, I’m sad but not surprised. Oh well there’s still plenty of good games coming out for Switch and PS5 to keep me busy until it drops next year.
You know, I thought this was an early April Fool's prank. Then I realized: It is official.
I'd be more upset if Aonuma wasn't sporting such a fresh cut. He's lookin too sharp to be mad at.
Shame, can we have TWW HD + TP HD then pls
At least Sonic Frontiers will not have any competition/
Take the time you need, make this game as great as it deserves to be.
@JoeSooper I wanted to say exactly that, lol. Releasing the sequel exactly six years later, on the same day as the first, would be super cool.
Welp. I believed in the 2022 date, but this isn't really that surprising. I'm fine with it, but it's kinda funny that they didn't give us the name of the game to lessen the blow of the delay.
I’d rather have an amazing game than a rushed game.
Take all the time you need Nintendo!
Need an extra year to make sure the game's framerate stays above 12 fps when running in an open field.
Jokes aside though I'm pretty excited. Shame we have to wait a year but there's a lot of other great games releasing in between.
Excited for the new characters and gameplay mechanics as mentioned in the video!
that's fine, in 2022 I'll be too busy anyway, playing the new F-Zero.
I wonder if they'll launch it in March alongside a new Switch model? That'd be pretty cool.
I mean, I can't say I'm surprised. But it still hurts
ha, well that's not surprising at all. At least they're taking their time with it and not trying to rush it out.
EDIT: WOAH WHAT IS THIS NEW GAMEPLAY
@JakedaArbok on whatever the next console winds up being called!
"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad."
They should take all the time they need - I have no doubt it will be worth the wait.
This is a Metroid Prime 4 case. They announced this game way too early. Now fans are going to get pissed by multiple delays.
@JakedaArbok more likely it be spring 2023.
I wouldn't expect Pokémon and Zelda to release in the same month.
I just hope it doesn't turn out to be a Zeldapunk 2077.
@BenAV rush? the game has been in development since 2019 with all the graphics already taken from BOTW ....
"I'm surprised a Zelda game is being delayed!" - said no one, ever.
"This Zelda game is terrible!" - said no one, ever.
When I thought the Zelda series had reached it's apex, Aonuma hit us with the transcendental experience that was BotW. He has all my faith in delivering a good game that I will wait as long as is necessary to play
Also, short hair Mr Aonuma
Fine by me, we still have Splatoon 3, Bayonetta 3, Xenoblade 3, and new Pokémon games coming this year so one less game is actually welcomed for me.
@sikthvash "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad."....sure...what about Final Fantasy 14?
hope they gave us a new trailer at least giving us a glimpse of ganondorf fully revived.
I'm just glad they said something now, and not making us wait to just realize that it got delayed. But all I got to say is take your time Nintendo. I can wait.
Not surprising considering it's Zelda after all, it wouldn't be a Zelda game without multiple delays. It may even be a launch title for the Switch 2 just like Metroid Prime 4 if we're lucky
well, back to korok seed hunting (still 376 to go!) and that pesky mounted archery, but done everything else!!
12 months should be enough...
6 years of development, wow. It better be good! And different in every way to its predecessor.
Xenoblade 3 will fill the void left by this game, but...
They made the right decision. You know what miyamoto never said
I can't say I'm surprised lol but hey 2022 is still stacked with new games so I'm not immensely disappointed
It's been so long that I don't even care about this game anymore.
very disappointing news! I wonder if it will be released on the next Nintendo Console like the original BOTW was on WiiU/Switch
@BlackenedHalo That may be true but if it's 100% ready then releasing it anyway is still rushing it out.
Oh boy I was afraid this would happen, but if the end product is amazing I don't mind, maybe we can get Wind Waker and Twilight Princess in the meantime.
What will be the big release this year? Or will there be one? Prime 4?
As is tradition.
Switch 2 to launch side by side with BotW2
Between Xenoblade 3 in September and Pokemon Scarlet/Violet in November, I couldn't see BotW 2 being a 2022 release so this news doesn't surprise me. Hopefully this opens up the possibility for Wii U ports to be this year's Zelda game.
OK, I'll play something else for now.
@HammerGalladeBro They restarted development on Prime 4 because it was not meeting their standards, Zelda will be fine.
@sketchturner Most Likely Splatoon 3, and Pokemon Violet and Scarlet
It's unfortunate but at least now we have an actual release window. I'd say it's unlikely that it'll be delayed further. Perhaps the delay is to launch it alongside a new Switch model in the Spring.
To get a game like BOTW2 at the beginning of the Switch's 7th year is pretty incredible. We likely still have another 3D Mario to come too.
I assumed Nintendo would soon talk about this, to remind people it's still a thing; specifically, still in development. With chip shortages, and the delays caused by the 2020-2021 Covid-19 problem, it serves Nintendo to apparently flip the Switch for an extended lifespan, making this is a good move. It gives the Switch a title, that's probably going to be awesome, in its 6th year. I'm not ready for the Switch lifespan to come to conclusion. In addition, delays don't guarantee a title will turn out great, and simultaneously they can make a game turn out great, depending on the developers; in this case, Nintendo. I'm sure it will be awesome, as I already mentioned.
I love the way everyone here is ok with this when the Reality is they've been working on it ever since Breath of the Wild 1 came out. Yup but ofc take your time and all that.
Nintendo fans being Nintendo fans I wouldn't want it any other way.
Splatoon 3, God of War Ragnarok, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Booster Pass and Gran Turismo 7 will give me more than enough new content to be getting on with for the remainder of the year. Disappointing but as others have mentioned, there's no shortage of decent games at the moment.
UGH COME ONNNN
I'm fine with time, take as much time as you need. There's a lot of new games to enjoy between now and then
And even then, it’ll be delayed for two more years
Wow seriously, it's a sequel of a 5 year old game, built probably on the same engine w/ the same graphics.
Only excuse I'll accept if there is a dual release on 4k Switch 2 next spring. couldn't fault them for delaying it for that. But come on, 5 years for a sequel? How long is the next new Zelda game going to take, 10 years, 2033? 🤷♂️
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO As sad as this makes me I will accept it because it just makes the game better
ALSO WTF THE MASTER SWORD BRO?!
If this were to release at the end of the year as previously expected that would mean Pokémon, Xenoblade and Zelda in quick succession, 3 (presumably big) open world games all from Nintendo. I wonder if this is more of a scheduling decision than anything since Pokémon was never going to be delayed and Xenoblade could do with being out for the holidays- Zelda will sell ridiculously well whenever it releases.
Ah well. Not like there’s not loads to play both coming and already released this year…was looking forward to this more than anything else though.
@BlackenedHalo I don't think that statement from Shigeru Miyamoto can really apply to the odd few games that transcend a lacklustre start. As you know, FF14 has been out for 12 years & received numerous overhauls in terms of content; it's an ever evolving MMO. You couldn't release a single player Zelda game and expect players to wait 12 years for it to get eventually good.
This is Great News, they Gotta make it a great game.
Bad News would be a massive Day One Patch.
Called it (like many did). Either they have something big cooked up for fall season, or for the love of god have it launch with a more powerful… something (hate this chips shortage). I dunno, between this delay that we all saw coming or at least speculated on, and MK8DX last booster pack, something’s cooking imo. Dunno what but, something. Please spare me from the bad takes that “it’s because of Elden Ring”, seen that already and my eyes fell on the floor they were rolling so fast
I figured it wouldn't get delayed, but a Zelda game getting one isn't far-fetched. Oh well, now I can justify XC3 and Bayo 3 at launch... lol
There’s something kind of exciting about the announcement in a way. It kind of hints at them having developed a few new ideas that’s they really don’t want to leave out.
That can only be a good thing in my opinion!
To the surprise of absolutely no one.
gives us more time to clear out our backlog of games.
I mind but dont mind this delay. I was really beginning to believe we might get the game. But the lack of details during that Feb. Direct made me start some speculation. I understand that Zelda takes it time and overall dont mind the delay. Just was getting extremely excited for this year to be "The Sequel to 2017". Oh well good thing Xenoblade 3 is coming.
Nooooo! It’ll be great tho, right!? Yes, yes it will
@OldManHermit I literally expected this to happen. I KNEW it was gonna get delayed.
It's so they can bring it out as a Switch 2 launch title.
They could just release more of the same and we'd be happy. Why are they touting this game as something completely revolutionary? Save those ideas for the next game/console.
Wow. That happened so quickly. I just switched devices to come back on the site. And this popped up
I mean, who DIDN'T expect this to happen?
@tadams587 When Nintendo does it it's ok when everybody else does it people lose their minds. Pretty much sums up your statement. Good news is it? yeah sure it is you convince yourself of that.
I hope they take as long as it needs if it means a great-looking, smooth-performance, super-fun and ultimately "complete" game on cart!
I can't wait for the inevitable flood of videos from Zeldatubers about this delay and 10 minute long theories about why the Master Sword looks decayed and eaten away.
This is just the first delay. The game doesn't even have a name or gameplay footage yet
Normally, I would of been crushed when a Zelda game is delayed, but not that bothered about BOTW2. Until I see proper dungeons (not divine beasts) and a more fleshed out story, not that interested.
I am interested what they are planning on filling that gap with, but to be fair, this is Nintendo, so probably a wave of MK8 DLC...
You have some extremely valid points there of which I can’t disagree.
It’s like we haven’t had a new Mario or DK 2d or 3d platform game really since Mario odyssey 2017.
I do wonder what their in house studios do all day as they take ages to make games on very low level hardware and only for one hardware.
They would never ever get a game out on a new generation device of the technical level of Forza Horizon 5 or Horizon Forbidden West and also on various console and pc hardware.
Their studios at NINTENDO in house must be tiny and have hardly anyone working there.
I find it odd that during this new "work from home" global initiative that people can't get any work done from home, not even programmers who work for Nintendo. lol smh What have they been doing this whole time?! Not surprised.
Don't fret everybody it'll be done when it's done, and it'll be awesome!
throws head back ughhh, it is what it is I guess. Just really wanted it this holiday. Thankfully switch lineup is stacked this year.
Can't say im surprised, if anything , i can even say i was kind of expecting it to happen this way, which align with my previous asessment they are realising this game spring 2023 and their next console(or mayor switch revision) by the holiday season switch will still be arround 2 or 3 years after that and we will see a lot of cross gen games just like on PS, they should be figuring out how to make the same software looks and run significantly better on their next hardware
6 years development cycle and they are reusing assets and the over world. This better be the best Zelda game yet. And I mean all flaws from botw fixed.
I kinda figured this would happen as they were "aiming for" a 2022 release. A bit of a bummer, but I trust the Zelda team to deliver something truly special with this extra time. Now, where did I put my cryo-chamber where I will spend the remainder of the year...?
@TheRedComet Don't discount Starfield!
Well.. just release TWW HD on Switch then.. please, please?
Majoras mask spits in the face of that.
I think Nintendo really need to get better at announcing games. Don't mention them until they're at an advanced enough stage.
The Sequel to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild to win Most Anticipated Game at The Game Awards 2022.
I was in a Discord chat and literally about two hours before, I explained to someone that if they were gonna delay the game, it would have to be in a scary development update video. What happens two hours later? This. I will never forgive myself this.
At least they displayed links face....
Disappointing, but 2022 was pretty saturated. And I appreciate Nintendo's humble spirit. Release the game when it's done and not a day sooner.
What do you mean bad news, this is great news! Just means we get a more polished experience. Besides, 2022 is already oversaturated as it is.
@themightyant Assuming Starfield doesn't... you know what, I'm not going to say it.
I've been saying this since it was announced
I hate it's been delayed for the sake of the people who were really looking forward to it this year. But for me, this is exciting because it means Nintendo pretty much has to release Wind Waker and Twilight Princess HD this year, which are my 2 favorite Zelda games.
I just got super burned out on the first Breath of the Wild and at this point am in no hurry to play the sequel. I'm sure there's more surprises in store, but from what they've shown so far, it just sort of looks like a DLC expansion. Boloblins have long horns like a unicorn now and can ride on Stone Taluses, the most generic and faceless boss that I've already killed a million of...wow, so exciting. Really hoping they have something more up their sleeve as I'm just not that impressed yet.
Surely they do, given the development time. Hoping there's some truth to the duality idea. A whole underground world where you play as Zelda would be cool. I'll be much less bitter about re-exploring the same land if they're planning to more than double it. Also hoping you can dive underwater in this game.
That is the smoothest bow to skydiving transition I have ever seen.
Cue sad trombone sound.
First the "indefinite" delay of Advance Wars (which frankly should never have happened because a cartoony turn-based strategy game was never going to evoke associations with the war in Ukraine), and now this. Not a glowing start to 2022, Nintendo.
I too want BotW 2 to be released when it's as great as can be even if that means another delay, but honestly this one really hurts. Kirby's okay and Mario Strikers looks promising, Xenoblade Chronicles 3 is nice even if I can't bring myself to finish either of its two predecessors (I would really love to see X announced, though, as I played over 200 hours of it on the Wii U), and sure, that Booster Course Pass for MK8 gives us something periodically to look forward to, but suddenly Nintendo's first-party offerings for the year are yet again looking second-tier and too few and far between.
In addition to my above comment (56), I also believe Nintendo was smart to do this. Now that it's out there, this news can't be an "unfortunate" announcement at their E3 Direct, because they already told us here. This announcement now, prevents it from being negative press for Nintendo, instead of announcing this during their E3 Direct.
@AtlanteanMan That's because you are missing a few titles:
Xenoblade Chronicles 3
And we don't know the games for the second half of the year yet.
Not even phased in the slightest. Take your time!
Liked the match cut
The way it was phrased - are they stretching development so that crunch is minimised?
I'm disappointed, but if it makes for a better game and a happier team, then that is all good
March 3rd, 2023 feels inevitable. I almost wonder if we are getting a new hardware launch alongside Breath of the Wild 2 at this point. I'm totally ok with this too, 2022 is stacked!
@rjejr The next new game will take as long as it need. But in the case of this game, I would imagine two years of a pandemic haven't helped matters. Sure, they're reusing assets that already exist. But it also sounds like they'll be more experiences that didn't exist in the first one. So I'm sure it's much more complicated than just slapping a new coat of paint on what's already there. Probably have to build some mechanics and things from the ground up. It's not like we are talking having to wait a whole another year from its planned release date. What are we talking, an additional 3, 4 months if December was the target?
@blindsquarel Stop contradicting the word of our lord and saviour Shigeru Miyamoto 😂
As much as I want to play this, I'm good with waiting. I'm still chipping away at my second play through of the first one and I just picked up Dying Light and Kingdom of Amalur. I think I'll be busy for a bit.
@Not_Soos Absolutely! Perfect time to squeeze in some other celebrated titles for the 35th (now 36th) anniversary
@Leuke I think GOW: Ragnarok is more likely to slip. We've barely heard anything on that. Though like Bethesda, we rarely do from Santa Monica until they are ready to release.
But the rumour is that Starfield was playable last year and they had been given extra time to polish everything which was why they were so confident to give a precise launch date 11/11/22 over 18 months ahead of release.
Time will tell!
@Dezzy70 Exactly all of that.
Whenever I read someone say "Well I can wait on a Switch 2 for new hardware." well I've been waiting 8 years for a new MK game, and a new Pikmin game - where art though Pikmin 4 - and almost 5 years for a new Mario 3D game - I can't even recall the last new 2D Mario game not Mario Maker, Wii?. So yeah, I can wait for new hardware too, but I've been waiting for new games for way too long, especially as a Wii U owner w/ a shelf full of games. Then I get a new 7 hour long Kirby game to hold me over. But we're getting Splatoon 3 after a new Splatoon 2 on Switch, Splatoon 1 never even got ported from Wii U to Switch, just 2 new games.😝
And Nintendo JUST SAID in it's financial report 2022.
I am a little disappointed about the delay. Anyone who was looking forward to it knew it would be a killer finish for the end of year lineup, but I guess Nintendo has to ride out on Scarlet and Violet. However, I want to play the game with the blessed experience N promises, and if that means the devs need more time (I wasn't expecting this after they reconfirmed the release date), take all the time you need. Finish it Suavemente
Well hopefully Starfield isn’t delayed. I was a little concerned having to split time between BOTW 2 and Bethesda’s next behemoth, but this will give me a little time to enjoy both. Heck, I might even get to the second castle in Elden Ring before then as well!
@sanderev I'm not into Pokemon at all, and while I added Xenoblade Chronicles 3 to my earlier post, the "mainline" Xenoblade games have so far been unable to hold my interest. As for Splatoon 3, I have played both of its predecessors, but it's a pass for me as well; the "culture" of it has just become a turn-off.
Better get this sort of thing out of the way before first of April, I take it. ^^
The only reason why this announcement doesnt hurt more for me is because Elden Ring has been scratching that itch pretty well atm (if only it was on Switch...).
Also, conspiracy theories:
#1 - They probably took note of Elden Ring's reception and are doubling back on some design decisions.
#2 - Timing the release around the Switch's 6th year anniversary and mayyyyybe a console revision that lets BotW2 shine in the same way the OLED did for Metroid Dread.
Twitter: Here's my chance to shine!
starts verbally abusing Nintendo for the delay
Take your time. Can't wait to play this! Righty then, I suppose Switch Pro (2) for 2023 rumours in 3...2...1...
@BranJ0 according to a poll Nintendo life ran last month, 75% of over 11k voters didn't expect this to happen
Glad that I was able to enjoy TUNIC over the past couple of weeks. Great Zelda-like with its own distinct identity. I highly recommend it if you happen to own either an XBox or Steam.
Unfortunately, it looks as if it will be the closest any of us can get to a "Zelda" fix for awhile now.
@Pillowpants That's why they delayed it, they're still trying to think of a name for it and they expect it will take them another year to do so.
'A rushed game is forever bad.' - Albert Einstein
Is anyone honestly surprised by this? I'm certainly not. I would have been more surprised if they released as planned later this year, without any delays.
Considering the fact that it was probably going to come out in winter anyway, the delay to Spring 2023 is probably better because it actually gives us a release season instead of year, plus it gives them more time to actually polish it up even more than it probably already is. It's obviously a shame to see it delayed but hey what can you do.
Also, the original BOTW released in Spring 2017 so it's even mirroring the original in that regard.
While I am disappointed by this announcement, obviously, I highly suspect the end product will be better received by fans than, say, Halo Infinite. There's a way to do flagship titles...taking the time necessary to make them the absolute best they can be and giving the greatest value possible to the end consumer...and there's a way not to do so; we're seeing a clinic on both right now.
@themightyant I hope you're right! That would make the long wait for BOTW2 a little cheerier.
@UmbreonsPapa "It's not like we are talking having to wait a whole another year from its planned release date. What are we talking, an additional 3, 4 months if December was the target?"
Well according to you: "I can't see this released any later than Spring 2021 or least no later than 2021" - so spring of 2023 would be 2 years later. 😉
Yeah, I know, covid, but they had already been working on this by June 2019, about 6 months before covid, and it's all done on hardware, so work probably continued remotely. So basically E3 2019 was a really bad time to show off news of a sequel if it wasn't coming out until 2023.
Can't wait for the next Nintendo talking head to say 'We only show off games 3-6 months before we release them." 😝
Fine with this,
a shame they didn't delay Wind Waker.
Technically it is a delay, but I don’t think they ever promised 2022. It was more like “We hope to release it in 2022.”
Can't say I am surprised at the delay. In a previous announcement they said they were 'aiming for a 2022 release'. This time we have a more specific release period. It doesn't make much of a difference as the delay will be 3 to 4 months at most. With some big titles coming out this fall there will be a lot of games to play to fill the gap. Better to delay it and give it the time it needs to fully develop rather than rush it out to please fans.
@Ralizah That is what I am thinking - Switch Pro or what not. I am suspecting they holding onto Bayonetta and Metroid 4 for it as well.
Great news. Too many games to finish
This makes more sense if it turns out to be a cross platform release or at least in some way is enhanced by "Switch 2".
It never made much sense why they would release such a big game 2 years from a new system launch when they coups just repeat the success of BOTW by tying it to the new system with enhanced features/visuals
I see, a Swith Pro release must be the same day ya?
@Twonips switch pro is not happening dude since switch 2 is around the corner.
@Bizzyb that depends switch 2 might not come out till 2024 since their giving the current switch a few more years in its life before moving on to the successor.
@RiasGremory Right. Switch 2/Zelda release it is.
Alright maybe Kirby can get a GOTY year nom
B....S! Don't fall for it guys: The game IS finished, they are just delaying it so they can turn it into a Switch2 launchtitle. It probably also means it won't be at this years E3.
Basically my interest has gone to the cellar. Super outdated graphics+potentially a re-used overworld...and we have to wait this long?! They better have a ton of very big and very good dungeons!!
@Darknilious If nothing else, maybe a themed SwOLED. Although I really would prefer something with a little more oomph to it.
That's a shame, but if it's needed then do it.
I'll just use splatoon 3 to take the pain away.
So, anybody in France pre-order the collector's edition 2 years ago in 2020? Only 1 more year to wait. 😎
Came on to say what everyone else is saying - it sucks but am not surprised, and would much rather they took their time and smashed it. Even after 5 years BOTW is still the only thing on Switch BOTW 2 will be competing against, although I guess this news might boost sales of Fenyx Rising a bit if nothing else...
Let's not forget that BotW was itself a "hybrid" release for both Switch and the Wii U (and before that, Twilight Princess was timed for both the Wii and GameCube). The Zelda series kind of has a history of that because it is, after all, arguably more of a "showcase" than Mario for any new hardware. As others have noted, it wouldn't be all that surprising to see BotW 2 and/or Metroid Prime 4 turn out to "bridge" the last hurrah of the Switch and the launch of its successor. If so, the question will be how many consumers will even bother to buy them for Switch if that's the case.
Oh well, it’ll be a better game in 2023. Just give me my Turtles games so I can obsess over them properly, and I’ll be ready for Hyrule early next year.
I'm okay with that release date. I'm currently in a race with a friend to see if I can start playing BotW for the first time before he can finish it for the third time. So far it looks like he might win, but I'm trying I tell you!
That means switch 2 might launch in 2026
My Switch is gonna get so little time played this year...
@BlackenedHalo JUST IMAGINE HOW GOOD ITS GONNA BE THO
It'll launch on both the Switch and the new model, seems obvious. I'm not saying the delay is ONLY for this reason, they'll probably use this time to further polish what they would have released earlier otherwise and turn it into an even better game and that's all for the better, whether you plan to play it on better hardware or the older one.
For as acclaimed as their titles often are, Nintendo rarely seems to rub up against the hype culture that otherwise engulfs this industry. Usually, they’d just delay the game with a tweet like they did with Advance Wars. They’ve likely never felt under more pressure to deliver than they have with BOTW 2. An exciting yet unenviable position, especially now that Elden Ring has come to challenge them for the open world throne.
As much as I was looking forward to BotW2 releasing this year, if it means Wind Waker/Twilight Princess will finally come to Switch, I'm totally for it.
i honestly dont care, take as much time as you need. those 2 new seconds of footage gave me life
In other news, water is wet. C’mon now, who didn’t see this coming? I wouldn’t be surprised if they delay it again. At least it means it’ll hopefully be amazing.
Honestly not hugely bothered. The fact we are getting a BOTW2 on this current gen of console is good going arguably. Also a date of Spring 2023 is a bit more definitive than before (?). We only had "some time in later 2022 in general" or something.
Anyway, massive amounts of games to play for me this year. My PS4 is starving for my attention.
@sikthvash Your quote was true 40 years ago, but with patches and updates it isn't true anymore. No Man's Sky is a perfect example of a game that launched poorly but became great.
Hoping this means we are getting Wind Waker HD this year.
Take al the time you need Nintendo. Last thing we need is a broken and unfinished game. If it needs polishing then do so.
I'm one of the few who didn't like Breath of the Wild, so I don't really have much anticipation for the sequel. The last Zelda I really liked was Twilight Princess, bought that launch day on my GameCube.
Congrats to Elden Ring for automatically winning Game of the Year 2022.
@rjejr Come on now. That post was back in June of 2019, a full nine months before crap hit the fan with Covid. No one foresaw then what the next two years would be like. Changed the conversation completely. And who knows what this project has turned into from what it started out as ( which we know was exrptra content that became too big to be DLC). Since that time, we got a relatively solid release year at least from the horses mouth. That has changed obviously and it doesn't sound like it'll be that much longer from when it was suspected it would be released. It's not new with Nintendo. And obviously, the wait for the original game is proof they must know what they're doing by delaying it.
As for the speculation this being delayed for a new Switch model, that's one discussion I don't have the mental bandwidth to go into,. Could be the case. Might not be. We've been down that road too many times. I'll just wait til Nintendo says anything about before jumping on that topic again
@Maxz There’s a patent for the tricks they used to do that
What if they're doing a dual release on current and future hardware with an additional delay?
March 2023. Calling it now. Likely to make way for Pokemon this holiday (and xenoblade 3) and an excuse to add more to the project.
Honestly I have plenty to play and I still need to finish the BoTW DLC. So I’m not impacted by this at all. Take your time Nintendo.
This is fine. Delays don't matter, only the final product does. As long as it doesn't become a Duke Nukem Forever situation, developers should take as long as they need to finish their work. That generally makes for better games, so more power to them.
@AtlanteanMan Answer - a shed load. Their next system isn't going to sell 120 million units on launch day!
Bad news. Not a surprise. Good they let us know now. It’s fine, they kept WW and TP on the back burner because they expected this. I fully expect them to be revealed and released in Q2.
This gives me more time to do absolutely everything in Forbidden West without another massive open world looming on the horizon, so I guess that's good.
Didn't the Switch launch in Spring 2017 when Breath of the Wild was released? Perhaps a new console next year?
That’s completely fine with me. Xenoblade 3 will keep me busy for a few months at least
Well I hope I’m still alive by then 🤞
6 years for a game that will play and looks pretty much the same as the first botw? They start to sound like cdpr with CP2077.
i'm more mad that no ports have been announced for the holiday season of 2022.
No Mario Galaxy 2, No Twilight Princess, No Wind Waker, No legacy 3D Sonic, No Golden Sun.
I, like several other people, did not buy the Wii U. I bought the 3DS and the Nintendo Switch. Its got an extremally larger player count than the Wii U, yet there arn't enough ports.
@clianvXAi And not having two develop for two different consoles like before Switch.
@tadams587 are you a proganada bot?
@Ambassador_Kong 40 years ago? That's a bit of an exaggeration. There are of course exceptions, sure: No Mans Sky, Cyberpunk, pretty much the entire modding scene for multiple games like ME Andromeda (Thanks community!)... the list goes on and on, but if it's bad off the bat and doesn't deliver what it promised initially, then there's still this element that once tarnished with a bad review or poor first impression, it tends to stick & will likely hurt sales and faith in a developer / publisher. I'd rather see development cycles avoid the crunch, take the time required to make as good as possible for launch than rush an unfinished hot mess (FYI I wouldn't necessarily call any of the examples we've listed as a hot mess, but light on content & buggy, which can all be solved with updates for sure).
I remember when we got delays last year and everyone said 2022 is going to be so full of games!
Well 2022 is starting to get thin on the ground for that all important bumper Q3
As it stands it’s Sonic and Pokemon.
I wish I could find a bookmakers offering odds for the release date for Nintendo’s next system.
I also wonder what Nintendo will have lined up for the current Switch for late 2022. Though if I remember correctly Bayonetta 3, Splatoon 3, the new Pokemon gen and Mario v Rabbids 2 are in the second half of the year.
@TheRedComet you forgot Starfield. It's ok, though. I don't mind reminding you.
It will be cross generation with the Switch 2.0 which will be announced in June.
Have as many delays as you need.
Well, at least Elden Ring will have no competition this year.
I hope Starfield is good, but my hopes aren’t high.
That team hasn’t made a great game since Fallout 3.
Know what? I'm down. I can now give my full attention to the new Pokémon games later this year. Our Lord Arceus has willed it
Honestly, I'm kind of relieved.
Launch game on the next console just like twilight princess and breath of the wild.
@tadams587 As a person who owns the Wii U generally ports are of little benefit to me but if you're one of those that missed out on it I totally understand why you would want them. I too was disappointed Galaxy 2 wasn't included in Super Mario 3D All Stars, that is one game I would love to play on the move and in HD.
What would really shock me would be a release without delays in the plural. I just hope it's a greay game running well with a ton of content !
I'd bet it'll come out around 2023 holidays
As many of you already mentioned, we'll have even more time to Elden Ring and even revisit BOTW for 100% (at least I still need to work more on it).
And next year we'll enjoy an even more polished game for the best series ever!
Anybody surprised by this news was always kidding themselves.
For everyone suggesting a March 2023 release, I'm pretty sure Nintendo considers "Spring" to be April/May/June.
Is it even a mainline Zelda game without a few delays? Still, this year is so jam-packed new releases, I’m kind of happy they are delaying BotW 2 by a few months. It’ll give the developers extra time to polish the game, which is never a bad thing, and give me some time to work through my ever-extending backlog!
@chardir Kirby was slated for Spring, and it came out in March, so it still might be a March release!
WW/TP HD Confirmed!
So what will the marketing cycle look like? In-depth gameplay trailer at the June 2022 Direct? Story trailer and title reveal at the September 2022 Direct? Exact release date trailer at The Game Awards?
Timing this for the Switch 2
Damn this isn't good, hopefully Nintendo have another blockbuster to take its place for this holiday season (pokemon aside)
I am completely OK with this. (Although it would’ve been awesome to cram as many good games into this year as possible, just to have some kind of history making, memorable year… as it is now, the amazing 2017 may never be topped this generation.
Looks like history is repeating itself again.
@BlackenedHalo actually Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2 is in development since late 2017.
@chardir Nintendo consider spring, january to march, remember that Kirby and the Forgotten Land was released in march(spring of 2022).
@RiasGremory That would be even dumber.....it would be like releasing BOTW on Wii U only and then releasing Switch 6 months later. Granted Switch isn't struggling like Wii U but still...
why Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild 2 is taking so long to release? a asset resued sequel is not suposed to take so long to release.
Happy to have bought a Xbox series s to actually have a lot of good games to play because I ´m tired and sick of Nintendo pushing back the sequel to botw , at least I will have xc3 to play on my switch in September.
@Oubie in-depth look at the game on E3 2022, release date/gameplay details at TGA 2022, Nintendo never show big 3D Legend of Zelda at Nintendo Direct, only on E3 Direct/TGA.
I'm a bit dissapointed the game is not coming out this year, but this is already an stelar year for the Switch, this game will be amazing!
@Giancarlothomaz That’s exactly why I’m worried. Delays are usually fine but with all these assets already there, I can’t help but wonder if they have some huge problem to fix.
This seemed inevitable to me after the reveals of Xenoblade Chronicles 3 and Pokémon Scarlet/Violet. Three open world games would have been a lot for the holiday season plus home console Zelda games usually always get delayed. Kinda just tradition lol.
That said, I’m hoping we get either another 2D Zelda from Grezzo or Wind Waker HD (with Twilight Princess too, possibly). Not expecting them, but it would be nice for just anything Zelda to look forward to later this year.
This is far from bad news. Nintendo has a history of delaying games over and over, and it almost always means a 10/10 type of video game.
Just in time for switch pro or super Nintendo switch?
It's disappointing but id rather have a awesome game than it be rushed plus something tells me a new console to release at the same time as a new switch.. maybe....
Title idea: The Legend of Zelda Resurgence of the sword.
this is basically relating to Fi and the swords past
That’s one less game to look forward to this year. At least we still have Splatoon 3 and Bayonetta 3…
Called it last year, totally ok with it
@Giancarlothomaz Aonuma said they're adding much more to the game, this is by far a much more ambitious project than any conventional Zelda game. Let's be patient and just wait hehehe.
Ugh bummer but I can't say I'm surprised! Poor Aonuma-san is going total gray hair.
The spring release won't bother me at all, with everything else there is to play this year. Doubtless he and the team are cooking up something really special, so please, take your time!
I thought that gnarly Master Sword scene was new! I'm sure uncursing it will be a major goal in the game.
Maybe we'll get the title reveal in a juicy year-end Direct?
I think deep down we all knew BotW2 was going to slip into early 2023. I believe Nintendo have known this for a while too. 2022 was looking almost too stacked, and then a new gen Pokemon got announced on top. Something had to give.
Fingers crossed BotW2 will arrive in March like the original. Toes crossed there's a Switch2 alongside it... but I do doubt that will be the case.
I actually feel sorry for those who still believe this will be a Switch game.
Guess that gives me more time to finish the first one (:
@sketchturner Pokémon Scarlet e Pokémon Violet is the big holiday game for Switch this year.
LMFAO I don't believe for one second it will stick to "spring" 2023
I'm completely fine with the delay. BotW's delay was to its benefit, and I'm certain that's the case here. I'd rather wait to play a polished game vs. a half-broken mess.
I just started playing Age of Calamity, so that's currently scratching my BotW itch.
Mmh earth, land, skies and even further? (Space? Multiverse lol? Dimensions? Time??
If there is something i dont mind delayed, is zelda. When every zelda comes, its a masterpiece.
The Legend of Zelda: Above and Beyond
Seriously, I was hoping we would see this sooner bearing in mind it’s using the same engine and assets as Breath of the Wild. I hope the map is going to be changed a lot.
I’m always fine with a delay, it shows me they want this game to be great right out of the gate. That’s all I can ask for.
Careful, lad: everyone is being so forgiving and accepting about this delay. I keep hearing Koombayah softly playing in the background whilst reading the comments.
Those of us disappointed are unreasonable (insert negative buzzword).
As Ninty likes to say: please understand. Mwahaha. (But they damn well better give us Windwaker soon)
Are....are you kidding me?! But WHY?! The game is already made up of reused assets. It even looks like it uses the exact same Hyrule map.
HOW can it possibly need another year of development? Like, seriously??? Constantly needing to delay a game isn't actually a good sign. People keep saying "oh it's fine! I'd rather have a masterpiece than a rushed game!". Is there even a single example of a game being delayed multiple years and turning out good? I can literally only think of the opposite. Cyberpunk is a perfect example of a delayed game being a disaster. They must keep running into multiple problems and issues they need to deal with. It's actually the only reason to delay your product.
So we still have a few years to wait…
Nintendo’s release announcements remind me of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. I’m done getting excited and being a part of the hype.
The title got leaked, didn't it, so Nintendo have changed the title and are reworking the entire game to suit the new title.
Did they forget to announce WW and TP ?
First big reason to look forward to 2023! We've still got Splatoon 3 this year, and lots of other great games to play in the meantime.
6 years to make a sequel to a game using the same engine and many of the same assets. This is ridiculous.
They would be even slower if they still had to support a handheld and a console.
Dual release with the Switch Pro (early March 2023) confirmed
Understandable. Take your time to make the game as good as possible.
@bimmy-lee I am also super excited about the Cowabunga collection! More than I should actually!
There are games which I wished they extended the development time of. I'd rather they did do this than rush things and make it a terrible game.
The Leg End of Me: A Deep Breath and a Sigh
Better delayed than bad.
I'm fine with this. As much as I want to play it, at least they're committed to polishing it up.
Plenty of Switch games coming this year anyway.
Fine by me. I'm not looking forward to it. The way they did the graphics....I'm definitely not a fan of. Out of all the Zelda games they could of made a part 2, Breath of the Wild wasn't one I cared for. Maybe a prequel but not a sequel.
Hopefully in the meantime there are some remakes or ports or other new Zelda games that WILL be released this year.
For someone who doesn't like RPG grindy type games, the Switch sure hasn't had any good big holiday releases that I can recall (not since Mario Odyssey that is).
Lots of Pokemon. A couple Warriors games. A couple Xenoblade games.
@Pillowpants ikr, they could at least given us a title to hold us over. Here’s to hoping for more zelda remasters or remakes. 🍻
@TheRedComet Ragnarok probably not gonna come out in 2022 either 😞
@sketchturner Smash Bros.?
@Zuljaras yes I cannot wait for that! I’m hoping it’ll come out around the summer
@nymbosox Oh yeah! I forgot Smash was holiday 2018. But that still leaves 2019, 2020, 2021, and most likely 2022.
@Zuljaras - Yes, definitely excited for the collection, I didn’t think I’d ever play the old arcade games on a modern console. I probably have an even higher level of anticipation for Shredder’s Revenge. I saw that Turtle you made in the artist’s thread, it’s incredible.
@rjejr The excellent Nintendo level and puzzle designs take much more time to create than just an open World with the same repetitive things like Skyrim, Assassin's Creed etc. They take a lot of planning and design development. Also the sheer size of the game and to be released pretty much bug free like the 1st BotW is a huge amount of work too.
I am sure they have learned a lot and listened to the criticisms of the 1st game e.g. Divine Beasts to few and too short, and will improve upon this greatly.
Disappointing however, I’d much rather the game release when it’s ready and not rushed. No doubt it’ll be another 10/10.
@the_beaver Technically, 5 years and some change. They didn't exactly start its development on March 2017. More like late 2017.
Same with the original for that matter. It didn't start until the Wii U was about to launch (and it gave the Skyward Sword team some time to breathe and regroup - and that title took less than 4 years).
@bimmy-lee Thank you so much for appreciating my take on Leo!
1000% believe this is to avoid overlapping releases with the already packed Late-Fall and Holiday lineup more than a Quality Assurance decision. I doubt they'll spend that time sitting on their hands, but I'd imagine only so much can be changed about the game in the three or four extra months they gave themselves.
@JoeSooper we should wait for Starfield before crowning game in March
I´m not Worried. I don´t like Zelda!
@sketchturner Super Smash Bros Ultimate in 2018, Metroid Dread in 2021.
I hope this mean the game won't be lacking in content like the first one. If the game doesnt have a wide variety of enemies, interesting side quest and actual dungeons I'll be pissed out. I don't want another game filled with generic kologs.
Only just recently Nintendo said the game is progressing smoothly. They always lied. They just wants to delay it as a launch title for Switch 2 in March next year.
Woah! Aounuma finally dressed like a grown man?! about time!
Seriously though, no suprising seeing BOTW being delayed. I was hoping to be wrong though.
I wonder what fill the void... Metroid Prime 4? A new Donkey Kong game (yeah right -_-), another Mario game?
I've heard that the majority of time spent developing BOTW was actually fine-tuning the physics system/engine, so it's very interesting that BOTW2 is taking so long when they're reusing assets and the engine.
If I understand correctly, this will be the longest time between mainline Zelda entries in the series' history if we count mainline games on handheld systems. If we don't count mainline handheld games, then the longest time between main console releases will be between ALTTP and OOT, which makes since given that 3D gaming was brand new at the time and standards for 3D action adventure games were still being set.
In all seriousness, I hope this only means that the game will be a true masterpiece, and will be what BOTW should have been.
In humor, the game better have classic style dungeons. 🤣
They really need the time to come up with the title for the game, don't they.
@Giancarlothomaz Haha okay guess my memory is pretty spotty. Holiday releases have been much better than I realized. Still just too much stinkin' Pokemon 😜
My wallet needs a break this year anyway.
I’m weirdly reassured by the promptness of this announcement? They must be confident in where they are in the process and have a clear understanding of what still needs done.
I could be wrong but I feel this is really early for them to hold up their hands and say ‘We will need a few more months’.
They’ll use it for bug fixing and probably revamping some locations in world to increase performance.
BOTW launched with some pretty poor framerate issues. They probably want to avoid that again.
@AtlanteanMan The Zelda series kind of has a history of that because it is, after all, arguably more of a "showcase" than Mario for any new hardware.
LOL, right because showcasing that the Wii could run a Gamecube game and the Switch could run a Wii U game is really showing off the new hardware.
@TheRedComet BOTW launched with some pretty poor framerate issues. They probably want to avoid that again.
You guys fall over yourselves making excuses for Nintendo. What will you say when it launches (eventually) with framerate issues?
Oh no. That’s really bad.
I'll be skipping this game if it is being delayed to be a launch title for a Switch successor. Beyond the external chatter associated to the Switch and its games, I don't have much issue with a game going from Late 2022 to Early 2023. This happened with New Horizons back in 2019-2020. Don't be on new hardware, and this should be an experience I can thoroughly enjoy early next year.
I've been calling bull on this "aiming for late 2022" nonsense since it started. The first clue is the word "aiming". It's the politicians' equivalent of "planning". It's a word of appeasement, not reality. Second, Zelda BOTW 2 was never going to be this year once the OLED got launched. Why don't Nintendo fans ever learn from history? Recent new Zeldas have been simultaneous releases for the current system and the new system, and that was always likely with BOTW2. The OLED meant a Switch successor would be almost another year away, and therefore BOTW2 would be delayed. If the Switch 2 isn't ready for spring 2023, then BOTW2 will be delayed again. It's the same with the Switch Pro nonsense. There's still this fantasy Nintendo will release a separate beefed up premium model to be sold at a premium price to a niche audience. No! Nintendo has never done this, and never will. The rumours related to the iterations we expect from Nintendo, yet so many people, especially those gullible media types now with hurt pride, still think there's substance in the Pro rumours.
@I-U Historically, recent Zelda games have coincided releases with the launch of a new system (Wii and Switch) and were released on the old one. I expected all along BOTW2 (and likely Mario Odyssey 2 and Metroid Prime 4) would be launch or early titles for the Switch 2, and would be stunned if BOTW2 wasn't a launch title for the next system. The release of the OLED actually clued us in as to the timeline of a Switch successor. Nintendo don't release new hardware that don't get at least a 2-year run, and the OLED will be pushing near that in late spring 2023.
Edit: Corrected Zelda release history.
@HalBailman Historically, the last three Zelda games have coincided releases with the launch of a new system and were released on the old one.
The last three games were Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword and Breath of the Wild. Skyward Sword came out a year before the Wii U and it was not released as a Wii U game.
Extremely disappointed, for a variety of reasons. The pandemic since 2020 obviously impacted much of the world, and nearly all aspects of our lives. Things had do slow down and societies had to adjust. Still, this delay hurts, and only reinforces my opinion of late that Zelda is simply mismanaged by Nintendo.
As someone who thought BotW was good, but not great, I'm not even looking forward to the sequel. If anything, the delay is most disappointing because it means a potentially longer wait for Zelda to return in a form I strongly prefer.
Anxious for Wind Waker and Twilight Princess.
Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask are only 2 years apart. Majora's Mask to Wind Waker is only 2 years and Wind Waker to Twilight Princess is only 4 years. All this time, they were also supporting a handheld AND a console.
Taking 6 years to make a sequel with the same engine on the same hardware is incompetence. Frankly, I am surprised at how forgiving you guys are.
I called this yesterday on the article about BOTW2. Elden Ring has changed the game now. I wouldn't be surprised if studios want to put a bit of distance between their games and From Software's latest release. It also gives them a little time to reflect on it. It'll be God of War next, as the last one borrowed heavily from Bloodborne.
I also wonder if the new Zelda has some similar ideas or design choices as Elden Ring, which have been spoilt as they've been pipped to the post. It's the sort of thing I could imagine Nintendo editing or taking out as a matter of pride.
@HalBailman There being precedent doesn't change anything. I would still be saving hundreds of dollars if the precedent of Twilight Princess's and BOTW's releases are followed for BOTW2 and a new generation. It made more sense for Breath of the Wild to be cross generation, because the Wii U wasn't a massive hit and steadily dropped whatever momentum it had through 2016 into the Switch's early 2017 launch. Same can be said regarding Twilight Princess bridging the Gamecube and Wii. Skyward Sword, A Link Between Worlds, Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks...none were cross generation releases and all are on systems that were a massive success. That's the Switch, so hopefully BOTW2 remains on the Switch.
@Crono1973 Thanks for the correction. I confused Skyward Sword with the Virtual Console release. It shows to never 100% trust your memory, especially if you never owned a Wii!
@I-U Precedents and history are a strong guide, not a guarantee. The long dribble of MK8 DLC to late 2023 actually suggests the Switch successor could be early 2024 and so Nintendo will upset many fans if BOTW2 is delayed a full extra year. Of course, they could change that DLC schedule and get them all out before the end of 2022.
Another historical context is the last major Zelda successor on the same console came in quick succession of 2 years, that being Ocarina and Majora on N64. The BOTW gap is now getting too long for an exclusive same-system release.
My gut still says, that 6 years into the life of the Switch, and presuming a Switch successor wouldn't be too far beyond that (again, not a guarantee), Nintendo will want BOTW2 as a launch title as per Twilight Princess and BOTW on Wii and Switch, respectively.
@Crono1973 You missed my point; Nintendo hardware has never historically been focused on cutting edge visuals or system power so much as new concepts or gimmicks. With Twilight Princess it showcased the novelty of the Wiimote (and later this was refined in Skyward Sword). With BotW it was a Zelda on a scale never before seen that you could play docked or take with you on the go.
Sure, one could say the same for Super Mario World (SNES) and especially Super Mario 64 (N64) regarding past showcase launch titles, and for similar reasons (Mode 7 for the former and the debut of fully 3D environments and analog stick controls with the latter). But by and large Nintendo has shifted to emphasizing Zelda with system launches since then. Both are evergreen IPs, but there's no question as to which one generates the most passion, excitement, and anticipation for fans. As such, Zelda is the ideal franchise with which to bookend and bridge console generations.
GOOD! NEVER rush A Masterpiece! I'm fine with waiting. My catalog is so backed up right now! Give us HD Remasters of other Zelda Games, so I can expand my back catalog even more 🤪!!!
Not making an excuse. The last 3 to 7 months of game development (depends on the scope and size of the game) tends to consist of bug fixing and improving performance across the game.
GameCube, N64, SNES, and NES were state of the art machines when they released. In fact, only the GameCube launched against another console that had superior horsepower, the original Xbox.
Nintendo didn’t exit the power war until the Wii. Probably a result of the GameCube being a console made for developers (it was the easiest console to program on for its generation, the Xbox was in theory easier but many Japanese and console exclusive western devs found it difficult to adjust to building games in a Direct X environment but that got better over time) that ultimately came in last place.
Nintendo used to launch the most powerful consoles. But seeing how AAA budgets were exploding in the latter half of the sixth generation they elected to redefine their views for the Wii. It was a decision made because of software development costs, not hardware development costs.
This is good news, not bad. They're not gonna disappoint us.
Also, what's all this talk about Switch 2? The original Switch may well be having a lot longer lifecycle than the previous Nintendo consoles. Actually, this is already true.
Besides, even if they did bring the Switch follower next year, Zelda would probably be released on both hardwares, just like BotW and TP before it.
It's not incompetence. Don't you understand it means the game is gonna be absolutely huge? If they created a new engine again, we'd get a smaller game.
Damn this is starting to scare me. I understand making the sequel to one of the best games of all time is a challenge, but I'm starting to get Cyberpunk vides off this.
Still, I'll pre-order a collection edition first chance I get, no matter what.
Honestly I have some many games to finish that this is fine by me. I’d rather have it be delayed and worked on longer if need be.
@JoeSooper @JoeSooper if Elden Ring won — woo it deserved it.
If zelda won---it only got votes because Nintendo!
@Dingelhopper My guess is they had several factors behind thus delay
1. They want to be able to also release this on the next platform a la BOTW. having a killer launch app can shape the fate of the console for years to come.
2. They feel comfortable enough with what's already slated for 2022
3. They can use the time to do extra polishing, debugging, and quality assurance without feeling the need to crunch
Nintendo has been known to sit on games that are litterally finished for months to strategically release in their schedule
@JakedaArbok they say spring 2023 thats between march-june thats not december
@Rykdrew First of all, no offense man. I completely respect your opinion. So please don't be mad when I politely ask why you're on a Zelda thread just to post you don't like it? Just a lil confused.
@UmbreonsPapa Yeah I really don't think there's new hardware next year, if there was, why make MK8 DLC 2 years long, why not just make it 1 year long then announce the rest for the new console? But it would make it ok for me if it was, otherwise it's just another release date lie. And I'm not talking about a lie from a year or 2 ago b/c covid, their financial report came out just last month and it said in black and white in writing 2022. That's on them.
@k8sMum We'll probably get Windwaker for $60 to make up for all the people like me who got it free on Wii U with MK8 on Club Nintendo. Post #29 😉
@CupidStunt And do you know what they HAVEN'T learned? How long it take to make a video game. I guess since they've only been making games for 40 years they're still kind of new at it, maybe they'll figure it out some day. 😂
So it'll be YOUR fault! At least I'll know whom to blame (as I pay whatever they want...)
And you are right: being so new to the video game biz and cash strapped as small developers are we need to be patient. (That's sarcasm in case anyone can't tell.)
@k8sMum It's always my fault. Though in this case it's Club Nintendo's fault for being so well liked it had to be replaced w/ Nintendo Rewards which either everyone has forgotten it exists or people just hate it.
Hopefully Switch 2 gets some new games b/c I'm not buying all of the games in 4k on Switch 2 that I also didn't buy on Switch b/c I already owned them on Wii U. Switch has been out for 5 years and I think our Wii U game collection - a system vilified for having no games - is double our Switch collection. Though in fairness we do probably own more AAA games on Switch than Wii U - Luigi's Mansion 3 and Tales of Vesperia come to mind - so Wii U collection may only be 50% larger, not double.
You know, if Switch 2 doesn't release in early 2023 I may never own one, I'll just borrow my kids sometime.
@rjejr Well considering half of the best games of all time lists contain mostly their games, I would rather wait for an amazing rather than a rushed substandard one.
@BinkusMasterOfBeans The site nitendolife.com updates the articles all day long. Some will be about games we like and some we don't. So, just as there will be people who are worried, others are not. I am one of them. The reason is that I don't care about the Zelda franchise. But, I agree with you, it was unnecessary. Thanks for the education. Again, you are absolutely right!
@Rykdrew Yeah sure! Once again just wanted to clarify didn't mean anything against you! So what series ARE you into? Just curious.
Hopefully delay is not to place 9999 korok seeds in the map to keep us busy
@BinkusMasterOfBeans I don´t like single player games very much. I play much more multiplayer games.
One single player switch game i love so much is Shadowverse. I love card games like Magic the Gathering. Other incredible game is Faeria. Slay the Spire and Monster Train First Class: excellent games.
I like strategy games like Advance Wars (my favorite nintendo franchise all time), Fire Emblem, Disgaea, Wargroove, XCOM... my kind of "single player" game. I don´t like the "story", the "adventure theme". I like the "chess battle" only.
I like sport games like Windjammers, Rocket League, Splatoon, Mario Tennis Aces, Pinball FX3...
I like racing like Motogp, MXGP, MX vs ATV, Rally, Mario Kart, Ultimate Racing 2d, Forza, Horizon Chase...
But my main kind of game is Fighting. I have 433 (i guess..I don't count anymore for about 2 years) fighting games in 33 different consoles. I'm currently playing Soulcalibur VI (steam) everyday. Infinite replay value. I won´t list all fighting games i like cause i´ll be here forever
I love "competition"....against CPU AI or humans....fighting, sport, racing, "chess" strategy games...and...party...like Just Dance, Mario Party, and..my favorite...Warioware!
But sometimes nintendo surprises me. A game I never, EVER, thought I would like...is Kirby Star Allies...
And I'm really enjoying it. This was a gift I thought about selling the instant I received it. But I gave it a try and I liked it.
So it's never too "black and white". Nothing in life.
I just can't have fun with 3d adventure games like Mario 3d, Zelda, The Witcher, Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Metal Gear, Luigi´s Mansion, Tomb Raider, Bayonetta, or jRPG....
Sometimes I try to like it...but I can't. Unfortunately.
Is it weird having more fun with Slay the Spire, an indy game, than with Zelda? Having more fun playing Warioware than Pokemon?
@Rykdrew Honestly, the type of game Warioware is (mini-games), I'm not a huge fan of. I don't hate Pokemon (still don't have Arceus), like I'll probably pick up Violet or Scarlet, as it will be my first pokemon game to experience for the first time with everyone else. (I don't count BDSP cuz that's a remake) I've never tried Slay the Spire, but considering the rumors I heard about it possibly being a ps plus free game for april, I might pick it up for free to test it. I like MTG too, but only started playing like 1 1/2 years ago. I like smash ultimate and brawlhalla. I also like more tame games like ACNH, Hollow Knight, and Ori 1 and 2. Do you like Age of Calamity? That seems like it might be your style.
@CupidStunt And I would rather not be lied to about release dates. If you don't know how long it takes to make a game that is ready to be released, don't lie and pick a date that's impractical. Is that really too much to ask? 🤷♂️
@rjejr Oh dear. Are you being serious? They never lied. They planned to release it this year; however, they were unable to in the time frame they set out. In one comment you have made it abundantly clear that you do mot have a clue about game development.
@CupidStunt I may not have a clue about game development, which makes me capable of being an employee at Nintendo, b/c I can pull a date out of my behind just as well as they can.
@rjejr But they never even gave a date. They gave a tentative release window, and they have now delayed it slightly to make a finished game. Ocarina of Time was delayed about 5 times and look how that turned out. It is still the highest rated video game of sll time.
Man, SwitchForce (a yt channel on all things switch) just released a vid about botw 2s delay being a april fools joke and that its coming this fall and splatoon 3 is coming spring 2023 and I just KNOW its a april fools prank because he showed a clip of Aonuma (probably spelled it wrong Im sorry) saying exactly that. I know its fake because I overlapped that clip with the delay trailer vid that came out earlier this week and, I aint no expert, but the japanese he says is the exact same sounding as in the delay vid. I know its fake but its a cruel joke for me lol and for no good reason, there's this part of me that is clinging to hope for it to be real, but I looked it up. No articles. No Nintendo video. HOW COULD ZACH DO THIS TO US!? i get it might seem funny, but when you are insane like me and you check Nintendo every week for some sort of news on this long awaited sequel of arguably Nintendo's 2 or 3rd if not 1st best selling franchise's smash hit game, it hurts when people joke like this lol. I'm just waiting for someone else to catch on in the comments of the vid or for him to announce it was a joke lol.
@DeathByLasagna @UltimateOtaku91 @sketchturner @Royalblues @rjejr @RubyCarbuncle @Ralizah @Deadlyblack @mariomaster96 @TheRedComet Hopefully the delay will be worth the wait, Nintendo games are usually not rushed and almost always deserve them staying full price for many years.
That's just my opinion though, understandable if not everyone agrees.
@KidBoruto I'm sure it will be worth it, initially I was disappointed but I've just looked at what else is coming this year with games like, splatoon 3, mario strikers, fire emblem warriors, xenoblade chronicles 3, Pokémon Violet, hopefully new rabbids game, hogwarts legacy, Forspoken, Gotham Knights, God of war Ragnarok, valkyrie profile, starfield, new star ocean and soul hackers 2. I kinda glad zelda has been delayed now otherwise my social life (what's left of it) would of been non existant
@UltimateOtaku91 Yeah for sure! Personally from that list, I only see myself pre-ordering Hogwarts Legacy and God of War Ragnarok.
I might buy Gotham Knights and Forspoken, but only if they review well and the youtube walkthroughs look good.
Everything else I'm honestly either not interested in (Splatoon 3, Mario Strikers) or I'll be waiting for big discounts/sales (Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, Pokemon, Rabbids, Valkyrie, Starfield, Star Ocean, and Soul Hackers).
@UltimateOtaku91 Aside from what you listed though, I also plan to eventually buy these 2022 games...
Prince of Persia: SoT Remake
LEGO Skywalker (Maybe Day 1)
Saints Row 2022
Stray (Maybe Day 1)
Tchia (Maybe Day 1)
Marvel's Midnight Suns (Maybe Day 1)
Kao the Kangaroo (Maybe Day 1)
The Lord of the Rings: Gollum (Maybe Day 1)
Sonic Frontiers (Maybe Day 1)
A Plague Tale: Requiem (Maybe Day 1)
Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora (Maybe Day 1)
Goodbye Volcano High (Maybe Day 1)
Granblue Fantasy: Relink
The Dark Pictures Anthology: The Devil in Me
@KidBoruto wow your list just reminded me of some great games, Bayonetta 3 hopefully releasing this year, the new plague tale looks very good and enjoyed the first one, Sonic Frontiers could be special but I need to see some gameplay first, gollum and stray looked good from the trailers, not too sure digimon survive will launch this year but definitely day one as I love digimon, and one of my most anticipated games ever since I've seen the gameplay is granblue fantasy re link which I haven't heard anything of over the past 6 months but i've watched the anime and read the manga so I'm ready for the game now lol
@UltimateOtaku91 Stray, gollum, hogwarts legacy, splatoon 3, lego star wars skywalker saga, sonic (maybe), kirby, Marvel's Midnight Suns, pokemon V and S, botw 2 next spring. Those are my picks for the next 9-12 months. Hollow Knight Silksong for me has just become a myth at this point lol. Am hyped for it whenever it releases. Stray and gollum though. PHEW AM I EXCITED! Stray looks so cute. The only thing to make it better, although it might be fat chance, would be customizing your cat. Maybe it was delayed so they could do that cuz many people were asking for it. Gollum I do want some gameplay for though. Last time I checked there wasn't any, right?
@UltimateOtaku91 yeah we are spoiled with 2022 games for sure, even if some get delayed.
@CupidStunt Ocarina of Time released in 1998 though, the internet was basically AOL. Did most gamers really know the game was delayed 5 times?
Also, it took 5 years between Link's Awakening, a 2D Zelda game, and OoT, the very first 3D Zelda, which obviously had to be built from the ground up in an entirely new engine by people who had probably never even made a 3D game before. And it took 5 years.
Now it's taking the same people who made BotW 6 full years to make a direct sequel using the same engine as the first game. So most people probably weren't expecting a direct sequel to take a year longer than the first from scratch 3D Zelda game to make.
@rjejr Of course we knew. We had an extensive selection of excellent gaming magazines reporting the information. We used to know about games years in advance. Nearly every N64 game made by Rare was delayed several times too. They give tentative release windows and often, when a great developer is wanting to make a great game, a game is delayed to make it better/iron out bugs. Elden Ring was delayed too as it was supposed to be a Christmas release, as was Horizon 2. Gran Turismo 7 was delayed by over a year from its initial release window.
It is probably because of people like you complaining, that Nintendo/Sony rarely share information until close to the release date for most of their games now. BotW 2 is going to be a massive game. Massive! It has complex level designs/puzzles/almost bug free. It is far more complex to develop a puzzle and clever level design than a 1st person shooter or Assassin's Creed for example. It not only has the main map, but now goes to the sky, and judging by previous footage, possibly underground too. It is the largest game in scope Nintendo has ever made.
You really know nothing about game design, and it seems gaming in general if you are not aware about changes to release dates and delays of all the biggest games. However, almost all of the best games have been delayed. 1 delay is nothing. Do you want Nintendo to release a broken game like Asassin's Creed Unity was?
@CupidStunt Simply put: If game delays have been going on for more than 20 years, why can't game developers hire people who are competent enough to know how long it takes to make a game so they can get the date correct?
That's the long and short of it. If so many games are delayed and we are all supposed to know it takes a long time to make a game, then why keep getting the date wrong?
"rarely share information until close to the release date"
Metroid Prime 4
And yes Sony does it too, Dreams took nearly 10 years from announce to release. Same for The Last Guardian. And Square Enix is the worst by far. They had an entire live auditorium ev3ent to announce the release date, not a year, the actual day and date, for FFXV, then a few months later delayed it again.
Games are delayed b/c the people like me complaining buy the game anyway. If more people complained, and less people buy the game, then maybe they'd finally after 3 decades figure out how long it takes to make their own games. But I'm never going to stop complaining about being lied to. Just b/c everyone does it makes it right, is a bad argument every time.
@rjejr Sorry but I can't interact with that level of absurdity anymore. All games have an estimated development window; however, art gets delayed often so the artists vision can be met. It was a tentative release windows given, not a date. There were no lies. Sorry for being so abrupt but really you need to get over it. Art gets delayed often. Very often. No one was lied to. The tentative date changed
@CupidStunt I am over it. Game was delayed, I've said my piece and moved on. I'm sure I'll still buy it and play it when it releases but delays are always going to bother me, and sequels shouldn't take longer than new games. How many new games in ongoing series take 6 years? That's kind of ridiculous for a sequel.
Though as I've said earlier, maybe not to you, if it turns out they delayed it to launch alongside a Switch 2 or Switch Pro model, well I'll understand then. I feel very confident BotW was delayed until Switch released, the Wii U version was probably ready 6 months earlier. Though they did need time to remove the interactive map they were promoting in the Wii U version so it wasn't superior to the Switch version.
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