Nintendo Talks About Its Future And Reconfirms Next Gaming System Is Coming In "20XX"

Poor Wii U was left out of the slide of old products xD

In 20XX...
Sounds very Megaman. 😆
I think we will see new Nintendo machine in year 2024 or 2025.

So does that mean were getting it in the next 2 to 3 years maybe?

Thank god. For a sec I was worried Mega Man X wasn't going to be able to play the next Nintendo console.

11:59pm 31st December 2099 confirmed.

Man I knew everyone wouldn't be able to help Comparing the year to mega man.

Probably when Prime 4 comes out, so that‘ll be around 2026

I give it 6 years tops before they start talking about 20XX.

I hope what comes out carries over the ecosystem from the switch. I’ve bought a tonne of games and if it doesn't carry over then I’ll just sit the next one out.

It's currently being manufactured as a beta in their secret lab. How i know? My uncle, that happens to be my aunty as well, told me so.

@Rpg-lover we could be related then! My uncle auntie also works at Nintie in their secret laboratory!

It would be weird if their next console is not backwards compatible switch 2 or something. However if they go main console again please let it have enough power for most games on at least full hd and 60 fps.

So, 2023 or 2099
Everybody that said the next Nintendo Console will come 2102 was wrong.

So we'll see a new Nintendo console this century.

I was almost worried.

I bet their next system will not be backwards compatible. It wouldn’t surprise me, from the new Nintendo.

Guess Super Switch is coming on 2022 now....now wonder what's going to happen to OLED? Nintendo Price drop when a new system comes keep dreaming. As other said Nintendo is not your Friend.

@Frobodobo I’m pretty sure they were just pointing out the products that were released between 2004 and 2006, thus the Nintendo DS and Wii. The Nintendo 3DS and Wii U launched between 2011 and 2012.

Phew, I was worried it would release after 2099....

So the N64 slow drip will continue until 20XX.

Ohh, that's the same year as Megaman X!

@Tandy255 I'm happy about that. And Hamster releasing a game a week too

So the next integrated hardware-software system will be a new console! (That's more exciting than a Switch Pro tbh!) But I don't think integrated hardware-software system will ever catch on.

I don’t understand the “next console won’t be backwards compatible” idea with Nintendo… if they are smart, they would be backwards compatible considering the huge back catalogue and installed base.

I hope the next console brings back a secondary screen in some way.

It can be called the Double Switch, or DS for short.

I suspect late next year or early 2023. Switch still sells in crazy numbers so I see no reason for anything earlier. I also suspect there will be a streaming option so the next Switch could have a "dumb" version that will only play steamed games. The big advance for Nintendo could be more about game delivery, not better hardware. If they can sell a system at just $150 USD and deliver games by title or subscription through streaming technology, they will revolutionise the gaming market yet again.

@BloodNinja why would it not surprise you? The 3DS was as were recent past consoles, starting with the GBC.

We will probably hear about the next gen system in two years, and I think it would be shame if their new system doesn't support backward compatibility with Switch and Nintendo Online services, it's like starting all over.

@graviton It didn't help the U.

Knowing Nintendo and their inability to make two successful consoles in a row they'll probably release a cloud exclusive console or something like that. I can even see them quoting Yokoi saying the 2017 tech is totally fine for the next gen.

Come on, the Switch turns 6 years in 2022 , Zelda and Metroid 4 might be one of the last great updates... they stopped Mario Maker, the last smash update came in and also the last free and paid DLC update has been announced. The Wii was 6 years, Nes might be about 7 years (after the next console...)

@SwitchForce There isn't going to be a Super Switch, i predict 2023 so releasing a new more powerful Switch a year before would be pointless and redundant. OLED is most likely the last new Switch model.

@Friendly 😁😁😁 I'm in stitches here. And yes we're related.

As long as the next system is fully backwards compatible with the Switch.

Getting a bit tiresome these days and both Sony and Microsoft have gotten the memo with PS5 and XBox Series X/S which are backwards compatible.

About time that Nintendo went that route too.

@Gwynbleidd I didn't have a WiiU when it was out so being able to get those games on Switch in a better state was great. Obviously there's less hype if you've already played/own em.

I hope they do have backwards compatibility with the next system. Just means it's all in one place as opposed to using separate devices.

Announcing that a new system is coming without giving out any sort of details or even an approximate release year is pointless and that coming from Nintendo's president. I could make the same announcement for every tech brand.

@HalBailman I strongly doubt that Nintendo could deliver a reliable streaming service.

As an Australian who has never had a stable internet connection outside of school/work (and I don't live in the middle of nowhere either), I hate this trend of everything moving to streaming and cloud services. Even if I had a stable connection, I still would not buy a "dumb" console that doesn't work if the servers are down or unreachable. When the service is eventually shut down, that's tons of e-waste.

@Ironcore of course all Switch games will carry over! Why wouldn’t they?! But the next Switch can’t take long- we already see many developers skipping Switch and Nintendo lost many great games because it can’t handle 60fps for demanding action games like Vanquish with higher res. Nintendo is only buying time because it entered new markets and the Switch sells there. So is Nintendo gonna keep selling old Switch longer and maybe sell more units, which could lead to further distancing from current developers who will stop supporting Switch completely, and over time consumers might give up on Switch and get another system// Or is the next “Super Switch” gonna release in the mid of Ps5 lifecycle so it can catch up with the popular games?! The main issue is that if N doesn’t get the same top games as other companies, most consumers won’t buy the same game twice if it releases a year or so later on Switch, and software sales are more important than hardware sales! So Nintendo better be careful and do something fast! Even with their solid first party games, normal consumers want popular games, and the Switch still doesn’t have the big guns like Mass Effect Remastered, Batman Arkham Knight, Vanquish, Resident Evil Village, Final Fantasy VII remake, Metal Gear Solid V! … and these are old games already! Waiting with new hardware might really hurt Nintendo also because the most consumers who love N and grew up with it are all getting older and also want more adult games, and if Nintendo keeps selling just to kids, they will lose a huge consumer base, and Dev Support.

@BloodNinja The Switch library is accomplished enough, especially with all kinds of indies. Buying those again will be terrible. If they don't make the next system backwards compatible, I will definitely stay away, even if it has something as legendary as BotW.

Switch sucessor in 2022/2023? i hope and expect the Switch sucessor is backward compartible.

@Znake Wii U libraries didn't carry forward to Switch, not sure what makes you so confident. However, I do agree Nintendo is way behind in terms of power and needs to bring over upgraded hardware in order to even run indie games in a decent manner.

I'm really looking forward to a proper Switch replacement. Powerful enough to do 4K upscaling. Also 4K backwards compatible with Nintendo's first party Switch titles. Low latency Bluetooth audio support is a must. And Nintendo had better give their future system vastly improved online support and features. Nintendo's NSO netcode needs to be ported over to 2023 for that one...

@BloodNinja IMO, if they're going to do this expanded Nintendo Online business, it should be a mainstay of the company moving forward and eventually have a library of games from across all kinds of systems. Then, when a new console enters the line up, the service just ports over and you can still play that back catalogue. It's not true backwards compatibility but it's better than nothing.

Okay, in all honesty, where does gaming even go from here in terms of hardware? I feel like there's this massive bubble that's needs to burst. Game development is more expensive than ever. If games become too expensive then the devs won't make a profit. The latest consoles can run basically any game at a consistent 30 fps or 60 fps, many times while running in 4k. With AI upscaling looking to be the norm in the near future, basically everything will be able to run at least at 1440p 60 fps, where do we go from here? In terms of power, today's consoles will be able to run games for the next 10 or 20 years due to development costs keeping visuals more simple in games. I don't know. I think about this a lot. If Nintendo made a "Switch Pro" that could hit 4k 60fps then why would anyone need a new console for the next, like, 10 to 20 years?

@San_D yes, because WII U install base was tiny so pissing off 15M consumers would be different than pissing off 100 000 000+ and growing. After the huge amount of software that people bought on Switch, people would kill Nintendo if they did it. Plus, someone from N mentioned that from Switch onward, all software should be transferable.

@the4seer The Switch will pass the Wiis sales by the end of December.

@HopeNForever but surely it is not a coincidence they chose those two instead of the 3ds and wii U.

@B_Lindz Because the level of graphical complexity doesnt remain static. Developers always up the ante which then means sacrifices have to be made in terms of resolution and/or framerate on the same piece of fixed hardware. It then gets to the point where said hardware is incapable of running the latest games with their increasing demands necessitating new hardware. The current Switch chipset has the ability to output at 4k 60fps but that would be a very simplistic graphical simulation. Even the original Xbox from 2001 was capable of 180p visuals way before the HD twins (360 and PS3) however again that was only in select non graphically intense titles.

New hardware is required to be able to run the latest games in a performant state. Technology doesnt stay dormant and consumer expectations are generally for ever increasing graphical fidelity which as aforementioned eventually outstrips a static piece of hardwares abilities, necessitating a more powerful successor. A.I upscaling has its limits, it isnt a magical solution unlimited solution

@Magrane That was the OLD Nintendo, that cared about such things. I don't think the new Nintendo would. They will want everyone to buy everything again, either next gen or the one after.

@San_D Indeed, it is quite the library. I too, would have to abandon ship if backwards compatibility isn't used.

@Maximumbeans Your idea is excellent, and I hope it happens.

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Would it really hurt them in any way to say 202X?

The new generation from Nintendo will not come until late 2023 or 2024. To release a new generation now is suicide. The semiconductor problem is huge right now and production is very limited. That problem is hopefully a lot better in 2023.

They need at least 4K and 60fps then. Less than that is not acceptable in 2023/2024.

@Dar3dev : Same here... same here...

I'll go with late 2023, 6 years seems like a good run.

Ok, then 2099 it is 🎆🎇

My guess is December 2023 at the earliest, most likely just before E3 2024

Holy crap Dr Light is making the next Nintendo console

Oh man, integrated hardware-software Next Gaming System should be the final name! It has such a nice ring to it!

@Znake Good if they follow that but given Nintendo's attitude since 2020, I'm not so sure. What you say about the user base is logical, but I don't trust Nintendo to do the most logical things (to be fair, the gaming industry doesn't always do the most logical things). Do you have a link where they have announced backwards compatibility? I don't remember seeing something like this and this is the reason I have recently reduced purchasing on the Switch drastically.

Haha suitably vague from Nintendo. Surely they could have committed to 202X though?! I really hope we aren't waiting another 8 to 9 years !!

On a serious note, I think this is very hard to call. I'm convinced the OLED was downgraded due to the chip shortages, so the question now is whether Nintendo will still look to launch a 4K iteration of Switch in the next 18-24 months, or whether they now skip it and jump straight to next generation- again in 18-24 months.

My gut feel is that 2022 and 2023 are going to be huge software years, and then we will see a new generation console in 2024 (likely announced E3 2023).

I still believe MP4 will close out the Switch - holiday 2023.

Oh ok glad they clarified 20XX, really narrows it down, thought we’d be waiting a good 600 years or so for the next one.

@Anti-Matter Megaman confirmed

Probably with a new service, the "Simulated Retro Machine", where one pays a monthly fee of 20$ and then get the opportunity to buy Super Mario Bros for 59.99$

Saying a console would be releasing in 20XX is saying "We're going to release our next console just like all of our other consoles." Also, Megaman

I hope they don’t try to reinvent the wheel again with the next console.

Switch 2 will be fine thanks Ninty!

@Anti-Matter Possibly. However, if their trend every two years continues, then it could be as the rumors suggest which is 2023. For brand new hardware, if the shortages continue, then I could easily see 2024 or 2025 as you suggest.

From the sounds of the "New Switch," NVIDIA must have moved Nintendo away from the Tegra entirely. They're working on a solution to keep all Switch software working on the new unit.

@BloodNinja If anything, this new Nintendo is moving away from traditions. I've heard backwards compatibility on the new system is one of their top priorities. One of the solutions, just add a Tegra chip to their SOC for full compatibility. NIVIDA must have gotten them away from the Tegra entirely on a different ARM system or the new Tegra generation is just different from the X1.

If they manage to get these games on the new system, they'll still sell as Nintendo calls them "evergreen titles."

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I'm SO glad to hear that it will happen in this century.

lol 20XX could be 2099... Miguel O'Hara will deliver each system personally.

I like how value added service is at it's narrowest with switch

Keep doing the hybrid thing and you've got a loyal customer.

@HollowSpectre Same here

20XX, i love it

I bet the next console is going to try and corner the VR market again. LOL.

But seriously, if this Nintendo account doesn't transfer over with all my games and everything, I might be done with Nintendo. There's only so many times I'm going to re-purchase SMB3, Nintendo. (I realize VC is a subscription now, but whatever... you get the idea, heh)

Incredibly vague indeed. 😑

I'd imagine the chip shortage might make them hold off a bit later than expected.

This century confirmed!

It's crazy that you all are so convinced that it won't have backwards compatibility. Looks like you need a reminder of the list of every Nintendo console (whether home console or handheld) for the past 25 years that had no backwards compatibility. Here's the list:

1. Switch
2. Gamecube

I'll bet around 2025

Wow! Tell us something we don't know will happen. Nintendo's next system will come out in 20XX.

That's the exact same year Megaman takes place. We'll finally know what reploids look like in real life.

@kuuhaku @Gwynbleidd
Don't fret. As I said, a streaming-only device would be an option, and perhaps it never makes it to backwater Australia anyway. A conventional system would still be available.

Also consider streaming technology could vastly improve, just like video formats shrunk in size over the years, so it could become more viable on lesser infrastructure. The system might actually buffer the game to a local drive so it's a hybrid streaming/download situation, and as you progress through the game, new content is downloaded. We wait and see!

This is not something I endorse either. I much prefer to own stuff and only have one subscription service: Nintendo Online. I'm just playing clairvoyant here.

Backwards compatibility or my next system will be the Steam Deck

@Bret Nintendo home consoles weren't b/c until the Wii, as the SNES and N64 didn't support it, either.

The ironic thing about @BloodNinja 's deeply silly "old nintendo vs new nintendo" rhetoric is that, if you're going with that logic, standardized home console b/c is only something that "New Nintendo" appears to be interested in, apart from the Switch, which changed media formats.

The handhelds are almost always b/c going back one generation, too.

Basically, there's zero reason to expect Ninty's next console to not be backwards compatible with Switch games.

Cant wait for the Switch U.

Cheapest way to build hype there is, they’ve given SuperSaltyDave tons of material just off this one slide. They pretty much set the internet on fire with a simple PowerPoint slide with the initials NX a few years back, that worked a treat…

@Ralizah I did specify past 25 years. But yeah, we're making the same point - it's rare for Nintendo these days NOT to have a console be backwards compatible. The two times they have in over two decades it was because the home console changed from cartridge to disc, and then disc back to cartridge. Personally I don't think we'll ever see a disc-based console again, Nintendo or otherwise.

No rush! There are still some stellar exclusives on the horizon that will very likely have decent longevity. Whenever 20XX does come about, though, backward compatibility is a MUST with the massive Switch library that's accumulated in the last four-and-a-half years.

That image really does make it seem like the next Ninendo platform will tie closely with the current Switch (as well as Nintendo's current mobile titles) and should therefore maintain backwards compatibility.

I'm betting we'll get a new Nintendo system in the next 5 years or so. But while I expect they'll continue with the Hybrid console concept, I legitimately have no idea of how they can improve on it besides its power. But hopefully they succeed at whatever it is they're hoping to achieve.

I'm over qualified to work as Nintendo's Chief of Slide Decks!!! 🤯 So, N... What's your Offer?

As long as it's a hybrid console, and is backwards compatible with the current gen, that's a day-one purchase for me

The only thing I worry about is the next hardware having backwards compatibility. Microsoft is doing it in a brilliant way in order to the customers preserve their libraries, and that's how I think Nintendo should be addressing this matter.

@Frobodobo Wii U was nothing but a special controller for Wii, so it’s understandable that it’s not pictured.

Gimmie a next-gen Switch with PS4 Pro-level power, OLED revisions (screen, kickstand, build quality) 128gb storage, better joy-cons, and an upgraded dock (LAN, power boost) with 720p/90 fps in handheld & 1080p/60 fps docked as minimums.

@Supadav03 Gimmie a next-gen Switch with PS4 Pro-level power, OLED revisions (screen, kickstand, build quality) 128gb storage, better joy-cons, and an upgraded dock (LAN, power boost) with 720p/90 fps in handheld & 1080p/60 fps docked as minimums.
Add to that more powerful GPU/CPU to match. Just having those don't do much if the horsepower isn't there to push performance. Then we can have Dock 4K/DLSS to make game more standout when on HDTV Big Screen.

@Ralizah Rhetoric? Their old leadership literally died. They have new heads, making new, profit driven decisions.

@progx It's so easy to be antagonistic, isn't it

@BloodNinja 😅

It's pretty sad that Nintendo acts like the Wii U and 3DS don't exist
I'm thinking 2024 or 2025 is when the next gen console will come out.

I've been missing my DS and revisiting games on it again, it was such a fantastic platform. The Switch just doesn't work that well as a handheld - too big, too expensive, not as interactive.

I hope Nintendo finds some way to explore that product space again, either with an even MORE hybrid console, or going back to a family of systems.

@hakjie11 Half life 3 confirmed 20XX.

I knew it! Finally a rumor is confirmed!

I can understand why they'd omit the 4 year flop that was the WiiU, but why would they omit the miniature empire that was 3DS?

Waiting a year or so could really close the gap between other systems
People still can't find ps5's, by the time chips aren't in a shortage, the next switch can come out and I wouldn't be surprised if a similar device is on par with a Xbox one s by then

7 years would be 2024 and that’s what i would expect. This will be their 4K system and will also be integrated with the switch online which is about time for them to rollover stuff. Hopefully they also allow us to carry over our digital purchases as well and probably will considering that is the biggest thing now.

Switch model refresh in 2023
New Console in 2025 or 2026, at the earliest.

The Switch is closing in on the Wii's lifetime sales, and will likely pass it by the end of the year or early next year. If it continues to sell as well as it is there's no reason for Nintendo to move on to a new system just yet. They'll want to keep this train rolling for as long as possible. To that point, there's literally no reason for Nintendo NOT to make whatever's next backwards compatible, unless they ditch carts again, which I don't see happening.

Didn't Nintendo said that they are not working on any other consoles?

"A news report on Sept. 30, 2021 falsely claims that Nintendo is supplying tools to drive game development for a Nintendo Switch with 4K support. To ensure correct understanding among our investors and customers, we want to clarify that this report is not true."

"We also want to restate that, as we announced in July, we have no plans for any new model other than Nintendo Switch – OLED Model, which will launch on October 8, 2021."

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/09/rumour_developers_have_reportedly_been_working_on_4k_switch_games

.. when you really think about it isn't 20XX just 2020?

It's amazing how little Nintendo has actually confirmed about their future, and yet - even after so many were disappointed by the lack of features on the OLED they were never promised - people still believe the rumour mill.

@WallyWest Unless they decide to name their next gen console the Super Switch

If they're talking about it, then the new console will be here in a couple years. I'd say it all depends on the chip shortage. If things get better next year then maybe 2023, if not then the year after that I guess.

@Rpg-lover We related. My uncley owns NUmtendo and he sez tha nu conso is megur powered. Like two en sixty prhoars tapped togefer.

Phase 1: Integrate hardware-software.

Phase 2: ??? (20XX)

Phase 3: Profit.

@BloodNinja wanna bet?

Nintendo will release their next console in 2024. 2025 if they release a new Mario Kart next year or on 2023.

@NoTinderLife They are ALWAYS working on a new console, they said that on 2017. They were referring that they're not working on another Switch model.

Sadly I think the Switch is my last Nintendo system. I am getting older and since Nintendo has such a bad track record of preserving my old purchases I cannot see myself buying any further consoles. Microsoft and PC seem to be leading the charge that my old games will keep moving on with me, where Nintendo cannot seem to do this or maybe don't want to. Now if the Switch is a new start and future platforms will keep going back then great, but if not, then I am 100% out. I lost so much with WiiU, 3DS and Wii that I am not willing to invest any further. I am buying BOTW2 but that's it. Once I beat it my Switch will go up for sale. I got a new PC coming and with the Steam Deck I just won't need Nintendo and I am okay to miss what few exclusives they have. It's been fun Nintendo, I've been there for every console since the NES, but we've grown apart and I cannot see our relationship continuing.

Don’t know why everyone keeps talking about a new console. Nintendo has already claimed this is only the “middle” of the Switch’s life. The Switch is a hybrid between a home console and handheld. Going by Nintendo’s previous handheld iterations, the DS line lasted 10 years (2004-2014) and the upgrade, the 3DS, lasted for 9 years (2011-2020), giving you a total of 16 years for just one platform.

So I find it hard to believe that the Switch is going to suddenly be replaced in just a few years. Most likely they’ll release a more powerful model, but nothing new for awhile.

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Super Nintendo GameCube, please.

Alright! Let's start speculating what features they need to add to the "Pro" model of this unnamed game system.

And I see people are already arguing over backwards compatibility. If it follows the form factor of the Switch and uses the same family of chips (like 3DS following the DS), it's a no brainer. But if the hardware drastically changes, probably not. I thought it was funny that people pitched a fit and acted like Sony was pure evil when the PS3 had it's backwards compatibility removed. But the thing was, the PS3 Cell Processor was never backward compatible, but the original model console had a complete PS2 hidden inside it which was partly why it was so expensive. Don't take this as me saying I don't want backwards compatibility, but if you look at the history of successful vs unsuccessful consoles, backwards compatibility doesn't seem to be a major factor in success.

@SwitchForce Please, I’ve spent thousands on Nintendo over the years. I’ve played their games since I was 11 in 86’. No troll here, just someone who has finally moved on. No hate to anyone who still buys their stuff.

I hope the new system will still be part of the Switch generation. Like what the 3DS was to the DS.

I heard 20XX is pretty close. Maybe a month from now. lol

Trolling must be a life style-if so be then be it. PC isn't same as steam deck and I moved on from steam games. They restrict and force you to be Cloud game with no option to freed from the internet. That's why people move on. I doubt Nintendo will loose the cart factor as that's still a money maker for them. Switch is their bread and butter and isn't going away anytime soon and that scares the NintenDoomed supporters. People whine but then they could go back to their old consoles and play them but that's not what they want to do.

I hope the next console will have virtual console. If it does, I’m sure Nintendo will “forget” those who bought the games on Wii, Wii U and 3DS and charge full price for them without even the upgrade fee.

Hey, I'm glad it's happening this century!!

@Don I hope the next console will have virtual console. If it does, I’m sure Nintendo will “forget” those who bought the games on Wii, Wii U and 3DS and charge full price for them without even the upgrade fee.
What a ludicrous comment. VC is not going to save Nintendo by any stretch of the imagination. It's physical and digital games that keep them alive. VC games requires one to have constant internet to play and most in NA can barely afford it or food. And since I bought my cars since the 90's I should only pay upgrade fee. This statement makes no common sense what so ever. They already have some of those games on eShop to download or come on Physical cart to buy already so why spend more on VC when they can sell just as well on eShop or Physical cart. Also if you haven't notice older games don't just copy over and play. They must be re-mastered and reprogrammed to work on newer hardware and that cost LABOR/MONEY how one can't understand this is why you don't work in the gaming industry.

I for one cannot WAIT to re-buy every Nintendo classic for yet another system that lacks backward compatibility!

@reporterdavid You realize there are other games besides the like 3 worthwhile IP Nintendough has, right?

@UglyCasanova i know. i think we will hear more about it around 2023. 2022 is a full stacked year. but still. they wrapped some things up already.