Nintendo Reminds Us Pokémon Diamond And Pearl Remakes Are Coming To Switch

This is going to be the perfect surprise for a friend of mine. Can't wait to gift it!

Honestly I’m starting to look forward to them. Against all odds. Despite how much I’ve fallen off the series since Gen 6.

Q : How are you feeling about Diamond and Pearl's return as we get closer to the November release ?

Me : Well, just okay for me. Not really hyped but still keep my eyes on it. I still busy to consider other games first before picking Pokemon BDSP. I can buy Pokemon BDSP later, not day one.

Any ounce of consideration I had for this game went right down the drain as soon as they announced SMT V would be releasing the week before, coming from someone whose first and most nostalgic Pokemon game was Diamond. It just doesn't compare in terms of exclusives anymore for me

Still hate the style but if it turns out good I'll consider a purchase!

As I've said about the most recent Pokemon games, give us the option to turn off Exp Share and I'll be willing to buy it (eventually). GameFreak needs to give players an option like they did with the Gen 6 games instead of just catering to new players and children. What about us veterans who started with the very first games? Does our enjoyment of these games not matter anymore?

Style is not my cup of tea, but who knows, maybe during game play It will grow on me, But what I really want to know is why people like this game so much? can't wait to find out. (I hope)

Really looking forward to these games, I'm going with Shining Pearl since I got Diamond back in the day. SMT V and Pokemon in November is awesome, cant wait!

Make something new instead of pumping out remakes for 60 bucks..

60$.... unbelievable

no news about it means there's nothing new about it

I’m excited for it. One of my favourite gens and can’t wait to share it with my kids.

fun time to be had by all

Looking forward to it. Gen 4 is honestly my least favorite Gen, but I still enjoyed it and look forward to another trip through Sinnoh. I kind of forgot about the remakes, but that's just because Pokemon was absent from the craziness of E3. There's actually so many games launching, that I forgot the Diamond and Pearl remakes are looking like one of Nintendo's big end of the year releases (possibly the only ones if there aren't any other announcements)

Ugh, so sick of the non-news on this game. I'm pretty sure this is the longest a Pokemon game's been announced that they haven't given us any details. And the more time passes that we don't get said details, the more this starts to look like a glorified remaster that's almost identical to the original (we already have too many remakes/remasters like that, we don't need Pokemon to go that route too, usually Pokemon remakes actually modernize things). Very concerning.

They look cute. I'm sure I'll play them at some point. Maybe after Christmas. With that said, the possibility of a day one purchase went down the tubes after we found out how close they're releasing to Shin Megami Tensei V.

There were a lot of things I loved about the Sinnoh region. I don't think I have a favorite (yet).

I can't remember a time we've spent so long without a trailer for an upcoming Pokémon game since its announced. Perhaps it was actually around Gen 4, which is kind of ironic

@UglyCasanova They did, you we all hated it.

I love the art style and cannot wait for these great games to come out.

@UglyCasanova I mean, they've outsourced these, while GameFreak works on Pokemon Legends Arceus. A new game is being made and IMO it is very exciting.

But... These games right here are a shame to the Pokemon remake series. Prior to this, every Pokemon remake stylistically matched the generation it came out in. This certainly bucked that trend, and it might be forgivable, if only the games were sold at a price relative to their quality. But no. $60 for games that look like they could have been released on the 3DS.

I know it's hard to believe, but I hate being so negative... I'm trying to be better, but then we get this. It's hard. I just can't help but be heartbroken. OR/AS and before I held the Pokemon remakes as a shining beacon of what a remake should be like. But now it looks like the Pokemon remake series has lost its spark. I don't know if it's because they outsourced it to work on Pokemon Legends, or if this is the trend from now on. I dearly hope it's the former.

Not a fan of the way the game looks at all. Characters look like funko pops which is ew. Also I'm more interested in a new experience so more intrigued by the other game. Here's hoping it's not rushed and messy.

Reminding us about Pokémon.

I TOTALLY forgot about that game.

JUST KIDDING.

OF COURSE I REMEMBER THAT BRILLIANT DIAMOND AND SHINING PEARL ARE COMING

@Harmonie It's sad that it's gotten to the point where we actually miss making games like ORAS when those games were kind of lazy themselves for not only not making a lot of improvements (especially in terms of region design/Pokemon selection), but actually regressing by excluding Emerald content. HGSS was the peak of the remake series, it's been downhill since then. I mean, LA does balance things out a little more, but we don't know much about that game either to say if it really compensates for how lazy this game seems to be.

@Bolt_Strike Honestly, HGSS was the peak of the series in general. I’m not sure the series will ever top that.

@Miu
I would pay $60 for a full-blown remake. That's what BDSP is.

I won't pay $60 for a cheaped-out remaster. That's what Skyward Sword HD is.....except I'm a Zelda fan so I got it anyways.

How about making us less pessimistic about Pokémon Legends?

I do hope it is good but the overworld character models I am not a fan of. The world itself and the in-game battles graphics are great.

The main reason for me not getting it day one is that FFXIV endwalker early access is released on the same day so BDSP is going to be a later purchase.

@ModdedInkling Not for me.. I'll never consider it as a full-blown remake. Just a cheap remake imo. Good for you to like it.

@Harmonie yeah I'm disappointed..

Outsourced or not, I can't justify paying 60$ for this

@NinjaGuy69 : I just wish that they had included difficulty settings. Black 2/White 2 were the first (and only) main series games to include the option, but it was so stupidly convoluted that they may as well have not bothered (though I do vaguely recall playing White 2 in hard mode). Custom difficulty should be the norm by now.

@Bolt_Strike : The original Gen II games are still the gold standard for me. I enjoyed HeartGold, but Game Freak did nothing to address balancing issues post Johto, and they (frustratingly) preserved many of the storage/technical based constraints of the original GBC games, even though there was no necessity for it (such as many of the stripped-back routes, caves, and interiors).

Never cared for Pokemon. Wasn't there an open world Breath of the wildesque game coming soon?

I'm kinda hoping they nerf Cynthia's team a bit. Her best team covers 24 different weaknesses and has two Pokemon in her lineup that does not have an exploitable weakness.

Will get a copy. D&P launched around the time when I lost my interest in Pokémon so never really gave them a chance, but I understand that they are fan favorites. Seeing as the DS copies are quite expensive nowadays, these remakes looks like a good option.

No thanks. Maybe if it was the same as sword and shield or better but a glorified 3ds game does not appeal and especially not at full price.

Tbh, I forgot about it despite wishing for their remasters for quite some time

since the reveal the artstyle has really grown on me and i'm 100% looking forward to playing it on da oled switch, the colours should pop nicely

I'm really disappointed in the look of this one.

If they allow players to turn off the exp.all, or add in different difficulties, or even just put some additional effort and easter eggs into the game, I'd be more interested.
But as far as I can see this is going to be an ugly, watered-down rehash of my favourite generation.

The silence with this game is very odd, reveal in February and then nothing for 5+ months outside of a release date. Is Nintendo perhaps worried that it'll overshadow SMTV and then SMT goes multiplatform?

sorry i more interested on Pokémon Legend Arceus and Metroid Dread, this remake of Diamond e Pearl, is not what i imagined how Gen 4 should have been remade.

@Bolt_Strike I certainly had my issues with OR/AS (I have my complaints with HG/SS as well), but, as I said, they stylistically matched the generation they were from (making them feel much more worth their price) and they added really neat features (such as DexNav). Plus, they added the day/night feature back, which the lack of which in R/S/E really upset me.

OR/AS felt like a much better R/S (I never played Emerald, since I wasn't impressed with Ruby) and actually kind of turned around my opinion. I'm glad to have a Hoenn game I thoroughly enjoy when I didn't much care for Ruby.

I mean, between R/S and D/P, R/S were desperately in need of being made much better and I'm glad that happened... But why couldn't effort be put into making a good remake for D/P nevertheless? It makes me so sad.

These are 3DS games. These are not worth $60, to charge that for them is spitting in our faces. And Nintendo/TPC/whoever is responsible really need to be held to better standards than this.

I am looking forward to these games, as I have been wanting to replay the Gen 4 Pokemon games, but I don't have a working 3DS, nor the money to get one right now... so the remakes of the Gen 4 games are an awesome thing for me right now. I can only pirate them right now in order to play them...

It's funny, because three months ago I would have said it was a certainty that we would get a Pokemon Direct by now. I really expected one before E3 and when that didn't happen (and Pokemon was completely absent from E3), I figured we'd get one later in June or July. I'm not complaining; it's just odd. It's been so long since we got any new footage of the Sinnoh Remakes or Legends and they both come out relatively soon. (And let's not forget that we haven't heard a peep from Detective Pikachu Switch in 2 years.) I get that the Sinnoh Remakes are Remakes so there isn't much new to show, but you'd think they'd want to show us something. And Legends is a game we still don't even know exactly what it is yet. It's just weird they've been so quiet. The only thing I can think of is that they didn't want to overshadow Pokemon Unite.

@ModdedInkling I really don't see much of a difference between the Skyward Sword approach and the Link's Awakening approach, especially in terms of value. They both do very little to bring the game's graphics, gameplay, or design up to modern standards. Actually, BDSP is even worse than Link's Awakening since Link's Awakening was ancient and the remake was a major leap, whereas BDSP is more recent and the chibi artstyle isn't much of a leap for DP, in fact it almost feels like they did remaster it like they did with Skyward Sword.

Now Pokemon remakes normally do a lot more in terms of gameplay and story that does make them feel more like legitimate remakes, adding new forms of Pokemon (the Megas in ORAS), new sidequests and features (Pokeathlon, DexNav, etc.), more detail to the story, new areas (the Sevii Island, Rt. 47/48/Safari Zone, the cut areas from Kanto in GSC). But again, we've seen nothing of that in this game, and the longer they go on without revealing those kinds of things, the more it feels those things don't actually exist in these games.

@Harmonie Emerald is actually a fairly substantial upgrade over RS. There's a lot of new features added (the most notable being the Battle Frontier, but there's also the Match Call, new areas of the Safari Zone, Trainer Hill, a smattering of new areas), and the storyline was overhauled so that both Magma and Aqua are antagonists instead of just one (they trade off storyline events giving them to whichever team makes more sense, and Team Magma is given a new hideout inside Mt. Chimney alongside the hideout in Lilycove which is given to Team Aqua). It's definitely worth playing if you like Hoenn, ORAS does have some unique features, but so does Emerald, which is why it was disappointing that ORAS didn't take more from Emerald because there's no definitive Hoenn game, you need Emerald alongside ORAS to get the full Hoenn experience.

HGSS could've done more, yeah (although parts of its problems are inherent to it trying to cram two regions into one game), but I'm less down on HGSS because it included most of what Crystal did which DOES make it the definitive Johto experience. ORAS not so much.

Personally I like the style. I think it's kinda cute. The one thing that I don't like about the style is the grass. That really looks stupid.

@UglyCasanova You mean something like, brand new? Something that changes the formula completely? Great idea. Here's another, how about it comes out less than three months after the remake? Ooh, maybe to achieve that we should put Game Freak's A-team on the new game and just outsource the remake!

Looks like BD/SP isn't the game that Nintendo needed to remind us of.

@JellyPop The only thing that'll get me excited for this game is the Battle Frontier. Other than that, it's just a new nuzlocke challenge.

@Miu Agreed. $60 for this type of remake is ridiculous. $40 at the most. Ugh.

@Bolt_Strike I guess for me, I couldn't care less about Battle Frontier or the equivalent in other games (battle towers, etc.). That's not to say I don't think they should be there, but when that's the content added, for me it's like there's no extra content since that does nothing for me.

I know it was a HUGE deal to people when OR/AS didn't include it, but I was having too much fun with all that was added to even worry about that.

@ModdedInkling It's true that these are, in fact, remakes, while Skyward Sword HD is a remaster and yes, in pretty much any other situation, I will advocate for the former over the latter, but in this case, I can't say either are good.

Sadly, it's possible to put in the effort into remaking a game from the ground up but not do it good. And this is just the very picture of that. This is supposed to be a Switch game, but it looks like a 3DS game. Like even other 2.5D games on the Switch from Nintendo and their associates (Link's Awakening HD, Pokemon LGP/E) blow this out of the water. They blow BD/SP so far out of the water they're floating off in space somewhere. LAHD and LGP/E, while not even being that great (especially LGP/E, awful games), don't look like 3DS games. They look like Switch games. They have that crisp, HD look. While Pokemon BD/SP look unpolished and cheap.

And... LAHD and LGP/E are not worthy of being $60 games either, so we have to understand BD/SP are a HUGE ripoff for $60 (although I'm sure they'll have much, much better gameplay than LGP/E).

BD/SP should have blown LGP/E out of the water. If only they had stylistically followed the previous Pokemon remakes and matched their current generation. Then Sinnoh would have gotten reimagined quite a bit and it would have been really neat to see. But...they don't even look up to par with LGP/E and that's pathetic.

I guess Pokemon Legends Arceus is the only hope for Sinnoh.

@Harmonie Even if you don't like battle facilities, Emerald still does a LOT, and there's even a few things in the Battle Frontier that are more than just the battle facilities (there's a handful of Pokemon to catch and a secret cave. It's not a whole lot and battle facilities are still the main draw, but it's something). I feel like you didn't actually read my post and just zeroed in on "Battle Frontier". Again, ORAS did add some new things that Emerald doesn't have, but some of Emerald's content is still sorely missed.

I thought both FRLG and LGPE earned their respective price tags. Same as ORAS, HGSS, etc. I always enjoy the new content and modern updates Pokemon remakes bring to older generations. If all BDSP involves are graphical updates on otherwise 1:1 remakes, it will, sadly, be a disappointment. The first Pokemon remake that does not improve content-wise on its originator game will be the first one that, in my opinion, may not be worth collecting.

I am still hopeful that the game will pull an HGSS at the last minute.

I’ll be happy to buy them if they bring anything new to the table.

It's not like they're being delayed, more likely is Legends Arceus... These remakes follows the same style of the original games and it's being developed by others - what I really want there is new content, like ORAS had!

As much how I loved the gen 4 games back in the day, I think I'll wait till other persons buy it and see how good or bad the games are first when it comes out. If it is a cat in bag that is as awful as the trailers are, I'll skip it. If it proves to be worth the $60, then I'll buy it as I'm struggling financially right now like most people worldwide.

I honestly kinda forgot.

Gotta say this now.
Remakes should be to incorporate newer mechanics not just graphics or nostalgic.
Personally, I'd want Mega evolutions, SOS battles, & possibly Z-moves for the Gen IV remakes.
I could care less about incorporating Dynamix.
Perhaps if they kept it to the boss fight dens, and out of the rest of the game.
Finally, all 898 Pokémon & all their forms.
Why would I play any Gen II - Gen VII remake, without all the Pokémon?
Besides the graphics, I have no information about what was or wasn't updated.
I can't buy the game unless I get more information.
Does anybody have a link to new information of the game, that isn't about graphics?
That was never a selling point of the Pokémon Games. Not saying better graphics isn't a positive, but I buy 8-bit style games on the Nintendo Switch.
I need more info, as i'm currently on the fence.
With the info I got, I can only assume, that I'll get the mostly the same experience, no better, no worst;
Than if I played my Pokémon Platinum.