Back in 2020, Nintendo took legal action against Le Hoang Minh – a Vietnamese citizen trading on Amazon under the name Winmart – to prevent the sale of RCM Loaders, which use special software to hack the console and permit the running of unlicensed code, as well as pirated games. It has now been confirmed that Nintendo has obtained an injunction against Winmart.
The judgment was handed down by the US District Court for the Western District of Washington on April 15th, and means that Winmart is now prohibited from selling such devices – or similar products designed with the aim of “circumventing the technological security measures for Nintendo’s consoles” – in the US.
Nintendo also claims that Winmart “abused” the Digital Millennium Copyright Act in order to keep selling the devices on Amazon. Amazon had temporarily removed the devices after Nintendo filed a copyright infringement notice, but Winmart responded by submitting a DMCA counternotification which claimed the removal have been a mistake. Nintendo's stance is that it had no other option but to take legal action against Winmart in order to prevent the RCM Loaders from being listed on the digital store again.
This follows news that Nintendo is also taking legal action against Gary Bowser, one of the supposed leaders of the piracy group Team Xecuter. Last year, the company also won a $2 million lawsuit against Uberchips.com and its owner, Tom Dilts Jr., who was accused of selling tools that enable customers to play pirated games on their Switch consoles.
[source worldipreview.com]
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And another one bites the dust.
This doesn't accomplish much, the RCM Loader tool is just a standalone device that performs a task any PC or smart phone can accomplish with a simple USB-C connection.
The tool itself is also just a tool, it can be used for any number of payloads that have legitimate uses that are not based in piracy.
[makes popcorn to enjoy while reading comments from people going through world-class mental gymnastics trying to justify piracy]
Theft is never a profit. Why can't these people do thier own work. Because they are cheaters.
If only Nintendo spent half as much time developing new games as they do taking people to court.
@RupeeClock you clearly don't understand the court brief but try to give misleading information.
I have an sx pro. Never used it though. Just a nice tool to have.
@SwitchForce
I understand it just fine, Nintendo are trying to impede people from selling tools designed to circumvent protections.
My point is that they're only blocking the sale of something that makes this process somewhat more convenient, when commonplace things like Android phones with USB-C cables can do the same.
It does little to stifle the accessibility of means of circumvention.
@Mr-Fuggles777 nintendo does make new games rather them take their time and not rush them out bugged and glitchy like some lazy devs we know.
I feel bad that I gave this company money, only for them to take it and bully individuals with lawsuits.
@RupeeClock - It accomplishes a bit more than you know. If others are witnessing this who are considering piracy, about half of them will be dissuaded to some level.
@RiasGremory how many games have they actually developed in the last 3 years?
@Paraka
Of course, Nintendo are making a statement with actions like these.
It also reduces discoverability of means of piracy, things like this show up in abundance on marketplaces like Amazon, eBay, AliExpress, etc.
When I saw Winmart I initially thought that Walmart was selling Pirated Switches for some reason.
WOOP WOOP It's the sound of the (nintendo) police!!
Very good this, stop those criminals, Nintendo!
@Mr-Fuggles777 Quite a fair amount, actually. Even more when you include ones that they funded or published.
@SwitchForce wait, what?
To be fair I think many people made a lot of profit with R4 (and other) cards, back then when Nintendo DS was the handheld of the moment!
Never heard of this device before...I have to admit I'd really like to hack my Switch, not to pirate new games of course, but to be able to play with emulators.
@Whitestrider I found my old R4 card at the weekend when we were decorating the lounge lol.
@Whitestrider Not to pirate games ofcourse, but to pirate games from other systems.
Good for them
@sanderev nope, to play old games that Nintendo & the others don't want me to play (and pay for) on the Switch...
@Mr-Fuggles777 By my count Nintendo and its subsidiaries have developed 21 games since April 2018. That does not include ports of Wii U games (Tropical Freeze), enhanced ports (Super Mario 3D World), exclusive games published by Nintendo but not developed (Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3) or eshop exclusive games (Jump Rope Challenge). So that's about 7 original physical games a year.
@sanderev emulation is not the same as piracy... I mean technically Mario Sunshine and Mario 64 are emulated. Granted the games are licensed by Nintendo but I have no problem if someone wants to use their own licenses of older games and run them on emulators on newer platforms... Although I agree most people probably dont and just pirate them. Personally the only games I would emulate are the SNES ones and I am very happy with the way nintendo handles them with Switch Online sub. (I love the save feature which is the main reason why I would otherwise use an emulator - because I suck at early mario games)
@AnnoyingFrenzy I wasn't counting subsidiaries, but even so that's 21 games from 12 studios (based on Wikipedias list of Nintendo subsidiaries) in 4 years.
That's still really poor output for such a high selling console.
How many games have Nintendo themselves actually Developed during the Switches life cycle?
@Mr-Fuggles777 I only counted Monolith, Next-Level, NDcube, Sora ltd, Intelligent Systems as well as Game Freak pokemon games that were exclusive to the Switch (technically Retro is a subsidiary, but I already knocked off Tropical Freeze, their only game). How many original games has Nintendo EPD developed (ie, not including ports or enhanced rereleases)? Including one's where they co-developed with another studio (of which there were two games), then that would be 9 since April 18, 2018. 10 if you include Jump-Rope Challenge.
The people working on the homebrew software and enabling emulation on the Switch are an amazing community. You can bag on piracy all you want, but when I want to play a game that literally can't be purchased in any legit means, I'm not going to feel bad pirating it.
Also, you have to laugh when hackers can create these amazing Super Mario 64 ports with 60fps and a host of other features while Nintendo sells you an old ROM for $60. Makes you wonder who the real pirate is sometimes. And I'm a lifelong Nintendo fan saying this. I love them, but hating on the hacking scene doesn't really help them so I fail to see why they spend so much effort.
@AnnoyingFrenzy I stand by my original point if they spent less time chasing the easy money through courts and CAD orders they could have developed more than 2 games a year for their best selling console.
@Mr-Fuggles777 One could make the argument that the legal team and the development studio are not the same people.
Good. Shut down the thieves and pirates. They are no better than common pick pockets, liars and con-men.
@AnnoyingFrenzy one could also ask the question why you feel the need to defend a corporation when they go after the little guy without giving anything back.
You must be the sort of person that would have sided with King John over Robin Hood
@Mr-Fuggles777 Ignoring first-party ports as well as games they publlished and/or funded but didn't directly develop is a pretty skewed way of making an already weak point.
@AnnoyingFrenzy You are correct. Although, no argument needs to be made. Their legal team has literally nothing to do with their development teams. But you know, trolls gotta troll.
@Mr-Fuggles777 Ah, going to the extreme already I see. You asked a question, I gave the answer. You asked another question, I again gave the answer. You then proceeded to claim that Nintendo striking down a hacker was impacting their game development, I provided a counterpoint as to why this probably isn't the case. At this point, you may notice no defending was done, merely pointing out a logical fallacy in your argument.
@eaglebob345 @AnnoyingFrenzy The point is that Nintendo has spent more time in court this gen than developing games. I get they are different departments, but what exactly are the game development teams currently working on apart from BotW2?
I didn't include games they simply funded because they didn't do any of the work other than throw money at another developer -
I dont see why people flock to defend such a large company.
@Mr-Fuggles777 Currently it's listed that their upcoming projects are Miitopia, BoTW 2, Splatoon 3, and Skyward Sword HD. I imagine they have more games unannounced in development in the background, but more and more series are being developed by their subsidiaries these days since the merger of their internal development studios. But really, this has very little, if anything, to do with their legal team, Nintendo is constantly in court every generation, this is nothing new. And this isn't a defense by the way, not in the way you were implying it anyway. These are the facts I am presenting. My intent in this conversation is simply to inform, whether that be through general information or noting that someone's complaints are misdirected.
@JimmySpades Best comment of today.
@Mr-Fuggles777 It's not a defense to say they did nothing wrong since they did nothing wrong. It's just a fact. Just because Nintendo is a large company doesn't automatically make them the bad guy. Protecting your intellectual property is your right, whether you are an individual or a large company. Hackers and pirates can steal if they want, but I'm not going to feel sorry for them when they get caught. There are bunch a reasons to break the law or become a martyr because the law in unjust. This is simply not one of those times. Video games are just not that important.
@AnnoyingFrenzy miitopia is a 3DS port, Skyward Sword is a slight remaster (they have included a slightly altered control scheme for SS).
I can come across as a bit gruff so apologies, it just feels like we aren't getting any of the big Nintendo games this gen - which is what I bought a switch for.
They are sitting on a wealth of IP's that they aren't doing anything with and them chasing down and taking to court anyone who does us their IP and it's just a little frustrating.
On the plus side, BioMutant is out next month that has that Nintendo feeling from the trailer and early gameplay - just a shame its not on Switch.
It's about time they took down this useless tool. Just use a smartphone to hack it like a normal person!
Nintendo used Zanmato.
It's Super Effective !
I swear some people on this website are more protective of a greedy multinational company than they are of their own families. Truly pathetic individuals.
@Kevember Have you read any of the EULA or TOS that you agreed to and found out that it was they whom own the rights to their IP and can choose to do what to it. I like those who talk about emulating go ask the Software Team developer and ask would they like someone taking their credit and not getting paid for it feel when you ask them this. I doubt they would be happy to hear this.
@CorvoRevo 2) make a game takes YEARS, make a GOOD GAME take the time it NEED.
This is what alot of HomeBrew and Pirates fail to mention to people whom think they are getting games for free. Someone had to make the game for them to steal it without paying them for it. And that no Permission what so ever was asked of those Developers when they stole them to use on Emulators-that's also something HomeBrew and Pirates don't tell those downloading and playing those pirated games. Also when you HomeBrew a Switch you alread violated your EULA-at that point they have every legal rights to go against you small or big fish. And worse if you send for repairs and they find and detect HomeBrew they have every right to refuse to repair but charge you a New Switch cost to replace it.
This is a right shame.
@BloodNinja
These individuals are pretty much just criminals.
@Mr-Fuggles777
"The little guy" is just making profits using a corporate form of theft. I rather defend hard working game designers whos work gets pirated/stolen by the business model of these little guys whos "work" is to parasitize on others. You guys defend scalpers as well?
@RasandeRose what about sellers of third party peripherals? They also make money on the back of other bigger companies. Do you also have a problem with them?
As for scalping, I bought the MHR collector's edition and sold off the Amiibo and pin so that the game didn't cost me anything (In fact I actually made a little money) and still have the steel book to sell - is that wrong?
@JimmySpades If you are playing games that are 20+ years old it is fair game, as with most software. 20 years is more than enough to make your money on software. Support current developers and stop worrying about older games.
Everyone defending Nintendo, the company that charged you 350£ for a console that is literally a junk of plastic, so much, not even the only thing you need to play, works correctly (joy con drift?), a company that despite knowing this and providing a cheaper way of replacing it, made them actually unaffordable (69£?), on top of a 350£. Nintendo are not the good guys, and neither are the ones who pirated, although you could defend some people would have a problem paying 60£ for a re-release of a 30 year old game that they bought fully priced 30 years ago. Don't defend Nintendo, they are richer than you, they don't care about you, and they will not bankrupt if one or 2000 pirate their games. I myself own a few consoles and i use emus also, since a lot of the games i like are impossible to get. And let's not forget that none of this company (Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo, etc) cares of people are breaking their necks defending them. You'll not get a thank you card in the mail by arguing who's the good or bad guy here.
Piracy cannot be defined as anything other than stealing IP(or other creations) that was created and/or belongs to someone besides your self. How you pirate it makes little difference. Yes, Nintendo is a large company and became one by consistently creating innovative products and protecting their work. No one forces you to purchase their products and to malign them because they are successful is irrational. All companies protect their investment and I have also went after pirates who stole my work. It is part of the industry unfortunately. The only real problem we have is games not being preserved. There are far too many that have disappeared, been tied up in owner/equity suits or left to languish. That is a lot of hard work never to be seen again especially by new generations.
@RasandeRose They are only criminal if proved in court. Even still, having an entire corporation slam down on a single person is unethical, even if it is within any legal rights.
@SwitchForce What exactly are you responding to here?
@Mr-Fuggles777
I don't have a problem with people making money in fair and honest way. It's a difference between selling an unlicensed controller, that business model is not about making money of people illegally downloading games. In the same time, it is wrong selling accessories made for cheating in online competitive games. In the same logic, it's not wrong making money on collecting, but I do think ocher is wrong.
@BloodNinja
No, its nothing wrong with a company protecting its legal rights against an individual exploiting their security and therefore hurting the company to make his own profit. The only unethical in all this is to make profit by facilitating piracy or cheating.
@CarlosM87
Is it a competition in having the most teen-socialist opinions? The civilized society works thanks to most people respects and upholds legal rights and the law in general. The good guys is the guys trying to uphold an honest business, no matter what you think their "piece of plastic" is worth, and us customers who will have to pay in the end cause some people take on themself the illegal "right" not to pay for products they choose to use anyways.
@Kevember another Troll whom doesn't read what IP means and how pirating others works has a downside to everyone.
@Jokerwolf actually that is only true based on the statue of limits but since you can't identify which statue your using this is more or less a mute point.
@RasandeRose you can see it whatever way you want. You're entitled to your opinion as i am to mine. Although, if you read my words you will find no defense of these so called "pirates" or even Nintendo itself. I couldn't care less for what happens to both, and i am a gamer, yes, although i wouldn't cry if either big companies go bankrupt since games are not my only hobby. I keep my statement; it's okay to defend your work. It's not okay, as the @BloodNinja said and very well, to send an entire Thanos level treat against one person, which, in most cases, Nintendo does. What Nintendont is respecting their clients enough to build a steady console that doesn't need replacing after a while. Might not be the case for many, but unfortunately, it is a case. I'm very protective of my money, since i work hard to have it, what i don't do is tricking people with gimmicks and mirrors so they keep buying the same over and over. That's unethical and shows a true lack of humanity by all these big companies. Unfortunately, it's the world we live in.
@Mr-Fuggles777 I guess I didn’t get the memo that we are dumping on you today instead of @Anti-Matter. 😬
Yar avast ye matey
@CarlosM87 Me, and many others, obviously cares what happens to Nintendo as we enjoy their products. You having the right to your opinion, I never claimed that you didn't, doesn't give your particular opinion any sense anyway. I don't see any logic in why it wouldn't be OK for a company to defend their legal rights against individuals. Yes, I have noticed you have some kind of kindergarten reasoning that a company shouldn't use its legal department (or something like that) against individuals. You think it should be a limit only one lawyer gets to work a case against one individual? lol, so ridiculous
Switch is a fairly sturdy piece of hardware at a low price point. I don't think Nintendo builds their consoles with built-in lifespan as certain phone manufacturers do. It survives a drop better than many phones and the components aren't made to lose performance over time.
lol, so you claim you are a gamer, but you don't care about games. Fair point.
@RasandeRose seems fair. My kindergarten reasoning didn't made me offend you. No matter how ridiculous you find my opinion keep your s...t for yourself and put your offenses where the sun doesn't shine, mate.
Rather unfortunate that the conversation was going well untill you decided that you're cleverer than anyone else in the room, so I'll leave this conversation. And by the way, good for you and the rest they so much love Nintendo. Nintendo appreciates and it's going to send you flowers next week. Just wait. And, by the way, my list of games is public here. And, since you have selective reading, "games are not my only hobby". You switched this to: i don't care about games. Nice way to show how really clever you are. Have a good time and let me know if Nintendo sends those flowers, game lover.
@CarlosM87
Well, you just told me I have the right to my opinions, but now you can't tolerate that my opinions cause you think it offends you? Make up your mind. I don't think Im more clever then the rest, I just pointed out that your reasoning is immature. That you find that offensive pretty much proves my point.
I don't love Nintendo, I care for their products as I enjoy them and grew up with them, I care what happens to my favorite brands in the foodmart too...And I do think it's a difference between doing honest and dishonest business. You don't have to play tough don't caring about anything, just further proves my point about your way of reasoning. You just need to grow up a bit
@SwitchForce When did I say anything about piracy? You have zero idea what my position is on the subject.
@RasandeRose grow up. XD do you realise I'm probably older than you, right? Which in a sense makes you right, though, since unfortunately, it seems my life as become rather dull, because I'm probably arguing with a 13 year old kid and that is just sad. And by the way, if your opinion includes a remark about someone's personal believes, or even an offense in it, which, calling someone's reasoning "kindergarten" or "ridiculous" is included, you should really look into find some manners, instead of playing so many Nintendo games. It's one of my hobbies, trying not to offend no one unless I'm offended first. You should try it, instead of pulling the passive-agressive card on me.
@CarlosM87 you're wasting your time mate, a lot of the idiots defending are fully indoctrinated into the cult of Nintendo - they aren't gamers because they can't see anything past the big N, which can do no wrong In their eyes.
@Mr-Fuggles777 true. I wasn't born with games, i was born with comics and books, and i got into games latter in my life. I own most systems and don't defend neither one, since there's games i love in all of them, but this console cults are rather creepy to me. Nintendo is famous for pulling the CAD on almost everything, even fans who just love their games and remake them out of pation, for no profit at all, and people seem to be always in favour of these big N. Sony seems the same, although they aren't so aggressive, and Microsoft, well, it's Microsoft.
And not talking about console manufacturers only, but publishers as well. Defending your property is normal, now, being jerks all the time isn't and Nintendo in this case takes the price out of them all. Although i condone stealing, i cannot talk about piracy, since I've used it before. I couldn't afford 40£ or 50£ every time i wanted to play a game so piracy got me through those tough times were now I'm able to buy pretty much whatever game i want.
I don't think it is fair to say that Nintendo has been idle in the last 3 years... but, if I understand your overall point, Mr. Fuggles, then I'd say I essentially agree with you.
When you consider the size of Nintendo (even just, let's say, the developers in Kyoto and Tokyo), their recent hiring campaigns in Japan and in the USA (Retro), their current success, the elimination of the small handheld (DS) market and subsequent streamlining of operations, their willingness to partner with outside studios (i.e. Cadence of Hyrule), the option of digital-only publishing, and more, it seems puzzling that their output isn't greater.
Now, I do acknowledge that their primary (first- and second-party) output is typically far greater than Sony's or Microsoft's. Yet it is frustrating to see this level of activity when the company has opted not to make AA games (F-Zero, StarFox...). If there is a sudden bumper crop of new titles (not ports, 'though I do value those) in the next 12-18 months, however, I will be more understanding. @Mr-Fuggles777
@RasandeRose I just said that, no need to get all hardcore super-cop on me lmfao
There’s always a balance between ethics and legislation. Please read up on it; even law isn’t 100% black and white.
Currently it's listed that their upcoming projects are Miitopia, BoTW 2, Splatoon 3, and Skyward Sword HD. I imagine they have more games unannounced in development in the background, but more and more series are being developed by their subsidiaries these days since the merger of their internal development studios.
@AnnoyingFrenzy You neglected to mention Metroid Prime 4. Even then, if we assign the correct weighting to the two ports in your list (a 3DS game and a Wii game), Nintendo and its second parties are working on precisely three-and-a-half games. At least, that we know of.
No doubt there are others, unannounced and in development. After all, the pandemic still sweeps across us all. The question for me right now is: just how many? Splatoon and BOTW are AAA games. The next iterations of 3D Mario or Fire Emblem are several years away. What about titles of smaller scope, like F-Zero, Pikmin, or Donkey Kong Country? What about the new concepts, such as might use 3D rumble or screen sharing (à la Mario Party)?
I am a Patient Gamer™; I look upon my game collection as a library, not a backlog, knowing that I will not be investing in any new games hardware for several years to come. Yet even I have begun to notice that they could be doing more, given their prior track record.
Piracy cannot be defined as anything other than stealing IP(or other creations) that was created and/or belongs to someone besides your self.
@Zidentia I cannot tell from your post if you are defending the model of copyright that Japan and the West uses. If you do think copyright laws are just, though, let me ask you this: why should a company have the sole legal right to the work of their employees? Why shouldn't creative workers get part of the credit and the proceeds, like Miyamoto, Yu Suzuki, Hironobu Sakaguchi, or Will Wright?
In this, at least, I understand perfectly where Koichi Sugiyama is coming from.
@COVIDberry Sorry I should have specified, the list of 4 games wasn't for Nintendo and their subsidiaries, just Nintendo EPD. So its Nintendo EPD working on 3 games if we use your weighing system. Don't you all get me wrong though, I too am unsatisfied with not only how Nintendo neglects its catalog of IPs, but also Sega, Microsoft, Sony, Konami etc., etc. That said, I find myself thankful for this lull in big Nintendo games as its allowed me to try titles I may otherwise never have.
My biggest concern with news like this is what does it mean for non-pirate homebrewers? Is Nintendo going start coming after SciresM and the Atmosphere devs next? Or are they all safe because they do not use any of Nintendo's code like TX so idiotically did?
@COVIDberry
I do not agree with that aspect of it but it is customary for most companies to make you sign a non disclosure/IP rights control. I lost control of several things that have generated hundreds of thousands dollars revenue for companies in the past. I no longer do that. I went back out on my own. It’s has its pros and cons but that is the reality of it.
LOL people acting they are doing the right thing by defending criminals but if you were on the other side (defending your copyrighted work) the narrative would change instantly, why should someone create anything if anyone can just grab it for free? Potatos have better logic than some persons in this topic.
@Mr-Fuggles777 theres plenty dude plus covid delayed alot of stuff so be patience.
@Paraka how can you possibly know this?
I could claim there are twice as many than those you claim that hear about it now, who never knew it (or this type of tool) existed, but will now find a way to buy one elsewhere, or use their PC or mobile device to accomplish the same end.
@Mambitos i think they are defending the right to use a tool for something other than the illegal purpose. Just like a knife can be used to kill or cut ham, we don't ban knives, only the illegal actions. Surely you can understand that?
@COVIDberry they are paid for their contributions. That's not hard to understand.
Very good for Nintendo. I so dislike pirating games and software, because developing them costs a lot of time and money.
If you want to be a pirate, go be a pirate.
If you don't want to be a pirate, don't be.
Everybody has different circumstances in their happy or sad lives.
In the end everybody just need to know the consequences of their own action. No need to condemn each other.
@RupeeClock Yeah, I don't get it. Other than the fact the big N has a crap ton of money in lawyers and most judges have never even held a Nintendo Switch, the real crime is in the distributing of pirated games. With an OG Switch. a paperclip and a PC you can almost literally do the same thing these devices do and you should be able to modify a device you own, even if to do nothing but use homebrew. This is the equivalent of Dell prosecuting people who modify their PCs, at least in my book. However, we know in the court of law, Lady Justice isn't truly blind, she definitely sees the color green.
@JimmySpades Piracy is, and should be, illegal. A device that allows you to modify your Switch, your other console, your TV, or even your PC, is not, and nor should it be. Go after the pirates that are distributing games.
@HotGoomba Pretty sure that was intentional.
@Mr-Fuggles777 this is the only comment. Came in here to almost post the same thing.
Good job fighting this trivial nonsense. Now where are the games? 5 years after consolidating development teams and cutting 2 concurrent systems down to one hybrid. This, while also outsourcing crucial titles to 2nd parties i.e. Metroid Prime 4 who also cannot deliver.
Nintendo is a joke anymore.
well, this doesn't stop anything. other people are still going to sell them in the us, he can still sell them elsewhere. hell, its not even needed to hack a switch to begin with.
@tseliot i wouldn't be surprised if the paperclip method was something they left as an option on purpose to profit on on the idiots that try it, botch it and have to buy a new switch after something inevitably found it.
i hate piracy just like anyone but...
why are 4 year old games still 55,-
why is a nintendo switch still 325,-+ and not 199,- with a game like the old days.
why dont they care about people who have joycon thrifts?
and why dont they care about small wallets of parents with kids?
Lenny ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°): So long, dental plan...
@Mr-Fuggles777 Are you implying that game development team in Nintendo also handling legal issues? Are they taking care of catering too? Janitorial duty? Accounting and human resources? Wow, what a multi tasking team, developing games while also taking down piracy at the same time. Who needs a separate legal department if your programmer can do that and everything else.
Look, I get your complaint. But when Nintendo does things like this or making theme park etc, these don't have anything to do with their game development pace. That's not how a big company works.
There's more drama than a girls night out in this thread.
They should better put their energy against "JoyCon Drift".
@Heavyarms55 I'd say the folks churning out half-assed ports of old games and charging full price are the thieves. I FULLY support piracy. Screw these big corps as much as possible, just as they do to us on a daily basis.
@twztid13 - Cause the coverage expressively shows Nintendo is actively tracking, and the courts are on their side with precedents.
Not hard. We are but a fraction of a fraction who will see this coverage.
@Mhayes111387 You'd be wrong. If you disagree with the price and walk away it's fine.
But if you disagree with the price and just steal it, the thief is unambiguously the pirate. Its their game to sell, its not your game to take for free.
There's no justifying stealing a luxury item you don't need.
@Mhayes111387 Well then I say you're little more than a petty thief. Don't talk to me again.
@Heavyarms55 LMFAO! The biggest thieves in the world are corporations, so I don't give a crap if people are screwing them over. In fact I encourage anyone to screw over corporations, in any way they can.
@Paraka yet half of that fraction of a fraction will be deterred, & that will make a difference? Riiiiiight....
@twztid13 - Please, elaborate how we as a fraction is somehow greater than the ones deterred.
Paperclips can be used for RCM loading. Time for Nintendo to sue every office supply store in the world!
@Mr-Fuggles777 Interesting response tactic...if people don't agree with you they're corporate bootlickers, not that people are getting bored of you spamming comment sections with non-stop meltdowns. Simple thing to do, sell your Switch and move on. You'll feel better about it honestly.
@WiltonRoots if people blindly defend large corporations they are bootlickers, I don't care if someone agrees with me or not and being disappointed with Nintendo's output is hardly having a meltdown - as a consumer I am more than entitled to voice my displeasure. Doesn't mean I don't like the switch, it's just not that great a system and I'm not going to ignore blatant flaws or bully tactics.
@Mr-Fuggles777 Nope it's a meltdown. I'm not defending anything here, I just feel like I've read the same comment 4000 times. Take a break. Games aren't worth crying over. It's entertainment.
lol, its not "blindly defending" corporations to come down on piracy/theft. The argument that Nintendo's pace in developing games or hardware fault with joy-con drift, somehow makes it OK to pirate their content, makes literally no sense at all. It would be a weak defence in court to argue that you did the right thing to steal in a store bcause you don't like their candy.
"Crime is OK cause I dont like the company anyways."
Grow up, teenage socialists
@RasandeRose I love the way they see themselves as some sort of Che Guevara style freedom fighter...when it's just video games. If you're going to rebel, do it properly. Just angry nerds stealing games.
@tha_whole_9 I was just thinking your posts sound and read very very familiar. Might be the Xbox bias...?
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