It's now been nearly four years since the Nintendo Switch was released and it seems "Joy-Con drift" issues persist.
In the latest development, Lambert Avocat Inc. - a law firm located in Quebec, Canada, has filed a Joy-Con drift class action suit application on 15th January 2021. It's now waiting for a judge to authorise the proceedings.
The firm describes the drift of the Switch analog sticks as a "hidden defect", states how it violates terms in the local Consumer Protection Act and is seeking restitution.
"This application seeks to obtain a compensation for all Québec consumers who bought the Nintendo Switch™ and Nintendo Switch™ Lite gaming systems, as well as Joy-Con™ and Nintendo Switch Pro controllers."
The firm also has a form on its website - allowing Switch owners located in Quebec to detail their own Joy-Con drift issues.
Last month, Nintendo of America's president Doug Bowser was queried about "Joy-Con drift" and mentioned how the company was "always" closely inspecting what was being sent in for repair to get a better understanding of what's going on in order to make necessary improvements.
This latest filing follows on from a string of Joy-Con drift legal battles throughout 2020.
[source lambertavocatinc.com, via siliconera.com]
Comments 95
When will they learn?
Intell they fix it its going to keep happening at least they could lower the price to like 40ish, But I don't feel bad for nintendo for selling a controller that dosn't work right.
Too easy of a joke to make after my last comment, but...
Exercises in futility. The Switch is going to continue to sell regardless, at that price, and they have no reason to do anything but act like they care. Even if this wins people in Quebec might see a few bucks back someday, if they go through the trouble to prove they bought a joy con.
@HotGoomba___Rebrand
I don't know how I feel knowing the fact that my Great Great Grandkids will be alive to still see Nintendo being sued over the Joycons
I mean.......they should.
It is a constant issue yet to actually be addressed by Nintendo with a hardware revision.
I love 'em but they brought this on themselves.
Y'know there's a way Nintendo could stop having to deal with these lawsuits, it's real simple, it's called "fixing your controller's main issue and offering, new updated models"
When the Joy Cons is drifting, it should have Initial D Eurobeat song Deja Vu played during drifting. 🤭
@Anti-Matter Allow me to assest you
@Slowdive I DOOOOOO.
Had to by 3rd party joycon after fighting with the Switch ones since launch
And you know what m they feel AMAZING
I forgot what it was like to have controllers that don't drift.
There's something very ironic about this lawsuit being reported by NL on the same day as the inauguration...
I’m gonna have to replace my right stick soon as it’s drifting. Not a big deal as I have a spare stick from when I replaced the left one but it’s fiddly work. I’d assume that the separate class action is due to Québec having a different court system.
@TheAwesomeBowser
Care to explain that one as I don't see it.
A new Switch hardware revision should make replacing the analog sticks consumer-friendly, and Nintendo should provide an official source for new sticks.
@TheFullAndy Don't take the bait. With polarization as high as it is, even friendly interactions regarding politics can spark flames here on the net.
Good. Drift shouldn’t have ever been a thing in the first place.
You people have been whining since 2017. Go get a life.
Lets be honest... at this point... the Joycons will go down in infamy as the worst Nintendo controllers ever
The ironic thing is that they are 50% of what made (possibly) the Switch the best selling Nintendo console ever.
Mhhhhh......
@Slowdive so you think there should be a tv only switch model. Terrible idea. Everyone loves playing their switch on the couch feet away from their tv because looking up is too much work.
@sixrings you people? What do you mean for “you people”. You’re in the wrong neighborhood pal. 😡😡😡😡😜
@WoomyNNYes
I get what you are saying but their comment just makes absolutely no sense.
I can't see the irony, the context or the point so I was genuinely curious to see if @TheAwesomeBowser could enlighten me or just confirm they were spouting nonsense.
@TheAwesomeBowser
@sixrings
Still talking out of your ring I see?
This is a legit issue that only a Nintendo sycophant would take issue with being raised.
@sixrings 🤣 as you're whining right now.
Back to the topic at hand. I feel like my 2nd set of JCs right jc is starting to get the drift. Its acting a little goofy. And I already sent this switchs JCs in last year to be repaired for drifting. Its a problem but as long as they're replacing damaged ones free of charge I'm good.
I live in Quebec and since I bought my Switch on launch day, I got the problem with 3 joy-cons (I got an entire Switch replacement the first time with an additionnal warranty, and I got the problem with both joy-con between 1 and 2 years later, and send them to Nintendo for repair
So yes I just filled the class action lawsuit.
Here's the part missed and will come back to bite as well.
Switch owners located in Quebec to detail their own Joy-Con drift issues.
Like I always mentioned either DOCUMENT or lose out. Repairs or on-going repair issues but if you fail this then the suite has no merits. Cases must have Facts to backup and if they fail to document then you will loose in the end.
@SwitchForce
"lose"
@WoomyNNYes Agreed Politics has nothing to do with this Discussion and will be close if people start going down that rabbit hole. Stick to the problem and not something unrelated to the question at hand. Want to do that go to a Political site and rant there.
@TheFullAndy I think people get the case of the matter if people are concerned for a grammar manners and not the context being posted then were all in trouble. Grammar mistakes happen no bones about it.
@SwitchForce
It isn't grammar it is spelling and you still have a "loose" loose.
I believe I found the problem regarding this, they kept coming for the money and Nintendo won't let them have any. The PS5 had more defects and nobody goes after Sony.
@Retro_Player_77
This issue has nothing to do with Sony or PS5 so why bring that up?
I hate using the term "whataboutism" but that is exactly what you are doing for some reason.
@Retro_Player_77 I don't own a PS5 yet, what defects were reported on that system? That would be good information to know, 'cause that thing is EXPENSIVE
2021 NINJA IS CURIOUS
Oh i'll do it then !
Nintendo should of stuck with the Circle Pad from the 3DS. Years later and very little issues...
@fafonio stop being ungrateful to the company which brought you mario, zelda and love hotels. So what they sold you crappy hardware. My playstation broke and my Xbox had rrod. Get over it or go back to pushsquare or purexbox.
This is ridiculous almost all devices will deteriorate over use and time. I got a Dualshock controller that does the exact same thing. Any lawyers in the house?
@ecco6t9 Nintendo only used the circle pad because of the clam-shell design of the 3DS, but you're right. I've never had any issues. I'm currently on my 3rd pair of Joy Cons.
The fact that I've had 2 pair of Joy Cons that are still working while my nephew has had 2 pair that each new pair consecutively had drift shows there's a problem. A products success rate should not be 50%. That is unacceptable, especially with electronics.
@sixrings lol.... are you in drugs right now?
Are you really this dense? 🤣🤣🤣
After finishing Hollow Knight on Handheld and getting left Joycon drift, I bought new pair, but I can’t trust the switch hardware’s quality anymore, and I have constant anxiety using it in handheld, which led me to eventually playing it less and less.
This issue just destroyed my experience with the console
another day another nintendo why arent you fixing your controllers for the love of god i mean i know why you dont care but WHY
There are decent 3rd party ones on Amazon for 40 bucks. I bought two pair a few months ago and they work great. Reviews said they can still get a drift problem, but for half price it’s works for me.
Are the people filing these lawsuits at least sending their Joy cons in first?
@TheFullAndy Sorry I didn't reply, was busy. The joke is that Trump will most likely get karma for his actions/crimes, like Nintendo is now.
@tseliot It’s not deterioration, it’s a proven mechanical defect due to the parts used and the way it is assembled. There are many documented reports and videos (check out YouTube) that show the problem.
I definitely want Nintendo to step up their game and actually try to fix the controllers. They did it digitally, but do they really think that would suffice? They really need to look at it physically.
But, I also want people to stop with these pointless lawsuits. Nintendo has already offered FREE repairs and/or replacements of Joy Cons plus FREE shipping and handling, for crying out loud! Maybe that's a problem for the Switch Lite, but isn't that the reason not to buy one in the first place?
I am through with the joycon or whatever is it that Nintendo named that rip off. Now using reliable third party controllers that feels way comfortable.
Good, hopefully something will actually be done
@HotGoomba___Rebrand who? Nintendo? With stock at an all time high and they are piling in cash, wtf do they have to "learn"?
GOOD! Honestly, the joy cons are the second worst controller ever. The only thing that really tops them are the Atari 5200's- I've never found one of those that works properly in the wild. The "d-pad", if you can call it that, is pretty bad on top of the drift issues. I've also gotten plenty of hand cramps from using the things in handheld mode. I basically never use them now that I have a Hori Split Pad Pro (which I highly recommend if you spend more of your time in handheld) and the standard Switch pro controller.
Joy con drift. Bane of Nintendo gaming at the moment and has been mine too. Oh and the R trigger sometimes
I still have my dayone Switch Pro controller and JoyCon and ofcourse my Switch lite, none of them drift.
I also have multiple PS4 controllers with broken buttons, an XBOX ONE controller that doesn't connect to the system.
My original blue drifts, the red LEDs dont work anymore.
One of my PS4 controllers drift, but I don't hear a song and dance about it.
People just like sueing Nintendo.
How many hundreds of millions have Nintendo made over the past 4 years selling individual Switch owners 2, 3, 4+ pairs of Joy-Cons because they keep getting drifts?
Yes please sue them big time, I am already buying a 4th pair of Joy Cons...this has to stop.
Have to say it’s becoming really noticeable for me at the moment . I can’t say I’ve ever experienced joypad issues like it in any other console I’ve bought.
The people who file these lawsuits are exactly the same as the dipshits who file lawsuits for slip-and-fall cases. They’re just greedy pieces of ***** who want nothing more than to make a quick buck over an issue not affecting most switch owners. If it was, the Switch wouldn’t be nearing 100 million units sold.
These ***** live such pathetic lives and people like you give them notoriety. ***** all of these lowlife *****.
@lemonjellydude
Yeah same, I can't believe it's taken nintendo this long to address the issue. It makes some games unplayable like Xenoblade.
I bought 3 sets of joycon to play Bomberman 6 player, and unfortunately they now all drift. Never had this problem with a console before, and I've been playing since the snes.
I've bought an 8bitdo controller to play my Switch games, and it's been great so far.
3 out of my 4 joy con are now drifting, it's pathetic. I can't believe they haven't updated their controllers yet. Switch is pretty much the perfect console in every other way to me.
I recognise that this is an issue, and I hope that everyone gets the compensation owed to them in the end.
However..... I do feel the need to agree with others who have had a Switch since day one, and have experienced little to no issues. I've had third party controllers develop drift before there's been so much as a twitch from either joycon, but I do tend to take very good care of my system (cleaning etc), so.....
Nintendo should offer to repair all affected controllers for free, or at least replace them if in warranty. I do hope that a more robust design or tweak is presented with any potential revisions this year, but until then there's as many YouTube videos showing how to clean and care for your controllers as there are ones complaining about drift.
It's an issue, but there are fixes.
Another ambulance chaser joins the list, I wonder how long they searched for a random law from some random place in order to give them credence.
Still can’t believe they haven’t fixed this. Very sloppy.
The mid-gen upgrade shouldn't be a Switch Pro. It should be the Joy-Con Pro. A Joy-Con that does't drift, or at least does after a GameCube controller's worth of resistance.
There, fixed it.
Nintendo used to be about Quality, up until the Switch i experienced no issues with the 1st party controls. But, the Joy cons have caused me issues as well as many others. And, at £60-£70 per set, it's an expensive purchase so you'd expect quality. Nintendo will fix them, for a fee in some areas (usually at £30 per joycon) and there's no guarantee that they won't drift again.
Seriously, Nintendo need to address this issue and source parts which won't cause these issues.
@TheAwesomeBowser
I can see what you were going for but a bit of a stretch!
@AlexSora89 It will likely be a mix of both, if anything at all.
@eltomo Pretty much all controllers I've owned have issues over time, I think the song and dance about joycon is that it seems to happen a little quicker. I'm still convinced it's as much about how people take care of their things as it is a design flaw.
@TheFullAndy Eh, fair enough.
@NathanTheAsian Without lawsuits and potential consequences Nintendo would not see the need to fix anything. The free repairs you brought up? Nintendo of America quietly rolled those out after the first lawsuit hit.
The more people that sue Nintendo over this, the better. If enough territories get on Nintendo's case, it'll motivate them to either fix the course issue or lower the price.
I have 3 with bad drift. As far as I know Nintendo of Europe aren't fixing them for free.
Nintendo should fix them for free and release new hardware without the issue.
@pikminlover SHUT UP AND LET ME USE MY MEME.
@sixrings
"stop being ungrateful to the company which brought you mario, zelda and love hotels."
They didn't bring them to us for free. Gratitude is us paying for them
@Donkey-Kong-Fan couldn't agree more there probably others consoles with this same issue but Nintendo seems to be the flavor of the day now. As stated people haven't documented the issue or repairs issue so what do they do but whine one chats instead of providing "Facts" to greedy lawfirms for money of which they will never see or get any. No it's about fast money not real results. In the end without this the Judges will toss the merits of the claims not enough evidence since people only makes claims but no Documentation and you can find whatever claims you want on the internet but short of Facts you have nothing.
Actually with all of the crazy stuff going on before and during the US inauguration a little JoyCon Drift arguing feels warm and cozy.
As an aside I was formally in the "these people must be abusing their JoyCons to get drift " camp until mine started just before the extended warranty ran out. I limped along resetting primarily the left one to stabilize it but finally requested warranty service in March of last year and as of yet they have not contacted me to ship them in. At this point I am not sure I would if they are still this far behind. It also made me wonder why the Classic Pro Controller, which I have used heavily and still do on the Wii, with a similar joystick has yet to fail or drift in any way. I am sure they are different but I wonder how much?
@Donkey-Kong-Fan Or some people just don't want to part with their Switch or its controllers for an indefinite amount of time or just don't want to go through the hassle and will just buy more Joy-Cons, hoping it doesn't happen to them.
In the end, I agree there are those who file lawsuits for the sake of a quick buck. But what would be the end game for Switch owners that would be of any benefit other than accountability on Nintendo's part , acknowledgment that an issue does exist and doing something to rectify it?
I am about request my 2nd repair on a left Joycon sadly. So yeah it is still going around.
@NathanTheAsian not in the UK they haven't, repairs here are entirely at the mercy of the agent you speak to at the repair centre and often are not free.
@HotGoomba___Rebrand
It's obvious that Nintendo has decided that since they are on the top of the world right now that it's okay to have a lot of people buy extra joy-cons and make more money instead of do the right thing and fix their issue. If I remember correctly Nintendo is only addressed it in the public one time. It's extremely bad of them and there is no excuse for this affront to its own customers. Honestly I hope they get badly embarrassed in all these lawsuits, now remember the actual lawsuit settlement if there is any will not benefit any of us at all, only the lawyers will benefit. Just the way these lawsuits work.
@Slowdive watch out the pro controller will do it after a lot of use as well. Luckily it's not too bad to take it apart and clean out the sticks with electrical contact cleaner. It's really made me sick, Nintendo not addressing this they should have fixed it year one of the switch.
@Danrenfroe2016 Honestly I'm surprised that you took my comment seriously.
@HotGoomba___Rebrand lol. Yes, this does demonstrate my frustration with a Nintendo. I now have friends and family members that use me as their official joy-con and Pro controller fixing service. Every time I open one up it makes me mad. 😖 Makes me cuss just like Cartman!
Good I hope they win. The joycons are designed like garbage.
I really wish there was people taking action on this in the Republic of Ireland. Nintendo have told me because I live here there is nothing they can do about my defective joycon. It's an absolute joke. Blaming Brexit.... Because clearly they didn't get notice of it happening. They won't deal irish customers.
lol, remember the old days with Nintendo 64 sticks braking by the bussload and NES-cartridges only worked for a time by blowing in them. It's good we nowadays expects high quality even in the low mid-range priced products like Switch.
so far theyve just made repairs free (for select regions) and make individual joycons cheaper (except theyre mainly sold in pairs, making this deal worthless), instead of, actually acknowledging and fixing their controllers
@RasandeRose pretty sure joy cons are the most expensive controllers you can buy other than a Xbox elite controller.
@sixrings
Yeah, it's not strange as the joy cons are actually two controllers loaded with tech. They can hardly be priced as an Xbox One controller which hasn't changed a bit since 360 and still missing the most expansive part of a controller, the battery. An original XB One controller on the other hand, shouldent be priced higher than mb 9.99
The retail price for joy cons is outrageous, they need to lower the price.
@RasandeRose the xbox series controller MRSP is cheaper than the joy cons. It also has been on sale a number of times since it released a few months ago while the joy cons rarely if ever go on sale... Yes you in theory can use a joy con as two separate controllers which is surely how Nintendo tries to justify their prices but I have never done that in my life. We have four pro controllers for multiplayer play in our house. Good job continuing to find ways to support Nintendos poor quality this generation after years of good quality.
I hope nobody has commented they personally have not experienced any joycon drift.
@johnvboy the complaints are far and too few...
Here's an idea, every time Nintendo goes on an over-the-top copyright strike spree, fans can respond by launching another class action lawsuit for joycons 😅
@sixrings
And so it should be, its exactly the same as the Xbox One controller...and the joy-cons are separate controllers, thats why you call them joy-cons not joy-con. What you do them personally makes no difference in any regards. Ofc. Microsoft got Xbox stuff on sale, they've got poor revenue for the Xbox while Switch is the fastest selling console ever...
Well, in my opinion Switch is one of the better quality consoles for quite some generations, with only the drift as mayor issue.
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