Team Chicken Rules The Roost In Splatoon 2's Splatfest

Egg is the scientific answer.

I'm not sure if there is anything more brutal that splatfest. So many loses😭

The wife says chicken. So I chose egg 😎

Played for an hour last night and I'm currently sitting on a 10-4 streak for team Chicken. It's the best start I've had to a Splatfest since the Wii U days

I liked the chicken design better, so chicken it is!

I could care less.

Everyone just ends up screeching like toddlers at each other on both sides on sites like Reddit and such and even sob-rage at the end of it about all of them being "RIGGED!" or whatever such nonsense that I'm just permanently done with it all because it just ends up being admittedly way too stressful and frustrating to even look at. It's why I've abandoned Splat2 for more relaxing games such as Animal Crossing.

Why did they stop with Splatfests?

It's the egg. It's just facts

Eg.

Last time I sided with egg so this time I'm chicken. Let's go!!

@mcandy242 Not true.

The question is “What came first?” But they don’t tell us what sport the egg and the chicken are competing in so it leaves to a big variety of answers.

I’m pretty sure the Chicken would come first at long jump whilst the egg would dominate and egg an spoon race.

This Splatfest? Well it’s anyone’s guess.

Had a lot of fun during the last Splatfest!

So yeah! I’m playing a lot of Splatoon 2 this weekend!

Egg. Clearly the chicken had to come from an egg.

@Franz Well, in so far as there were eggs in general (dinosaurs and insects, etc) before there were chickens.

If the question is chickens vs. chicken eggs specifically, then the question doesn't have a scientific answer. There was never a single "non-chicken" that delivered a "chicken" egg, because evolution affects population-level genetics, not individual-level. And the point at which a population of "non-chickens" became a population of "chickens" is essentially arbitrary because species are in constant flux and do not occupy discrete fixed states as our short lifetimes may make it seem.

@TeslaChippie You are correct to assert that evolution, in general, affects population-level genetics. But do not discount the importance of individual-level mutations that could then be passed on to future generations. "Pre-chickens," through many years of breeding and accumulation of genetic changes after generations, eventually became what we come to know as the modern chicken. (Could be Pre-Chicken A > Pre-Chicken B > ... Pre-Chicken Z > Modern Chicken--) If such individual changes, more importantly their accumulation that then contribute to better fitness, in the DNA were for naught, even we as a species wouldn't be here today. And then there's the influence of epigenetic changes...

I chose chicken, since the egg needs to be incubated to survive

You mean Pearl WRONGLY won...still upset about that.

Egg for me, 14 games so far and 11 wins...
Hoping this run continues..

Splatfests would be more fun if they offered themed gear.

@LatsaSpege When you say "salty", do you mean brutally crush? I got CRUSHED last night a lot. All were teams with Japanese kanji names. But I know the rubber banding algorithm will put me on some decent teams next time I play

@PaisanoJake
She's a babe. The end.

@Franz I guess my point in its simplest form is that there was never an organism that anyone on earth would call "not a chicken" that laid an egg that anyone on earth would call a "chicken" egg. The transition would be too gradual for anyone to make that call.

@Franz

Egg is not scientific answer

@TeslaChippie But there ARE pre-chickens ("proto-chickens" if one prefers). This is not up for debate. Yes, I agree with you that evolution is gradual. Very gradual. "Not a chicken" laying an egg to a chicken is not the point I'm trying to get across. I'm talking about random mutations that accumulate which LEAD UP to the eventual chicken ("now chicken") we come to know and love to eat. There isn't any clear demarcations either between one generation to the next. (That I know of.) Even to this day, chickens we know are still changing (especially now that chickens are pumped with hormones--which epigenetics may have a role). They may be different 1,000 or 10,000 years from now. Who knows.

In retrospect, maybe I shouldn't have stated "scientific." Maybe the term throws people off. But according to literature, this occurs in nature, not just in chickens but other organisms as well.

@RPGamer Hope you get it during the holidays! It's my most played game on the Switch. I never thought it would be when I got it at launch.

@Franz Just to save you from having to type out another paragraph, I have a Master's in evolutionary biology

Proto-chickens existed, sure, but no proto-chicken ever laid a chicken egg. It's not like there were proto-chickens for 100K years and all of a sudden they started laying modern chicken eggs. The change happened so gradually that, if we had fossils for say every 100 years of development from proto-chickens to modern chickens, we would not be able to tell where the former ended and the latter began. The same problem affects looking at human evolution: we have crap tons of fossils of pre-humans, but experts disagree on where "pre-human" ends and "human" begins. That's the problem with trying to assign fixed names to fluid concepts.

@TeslaChippie If we're going to pull up degrees, I have a doctorate in Molecular Biology and Cancer Biology. But you go ahead.

if we are talking about a fictional world then I would argue that whoever wins the splatfest decides what was written in stone

It's a very Science vs Religion question at the end of the day

It wasn't pretty watching my teammate get locked in that dome with at least two enemy players who promptly splatted him. But this splatfest is fun overall though. It seems like a good idea to just keep doing them regularly until the next Splatoon comes out, hopefully on the next Nintendo system (I don't want the online player base split up on two Splatoon games on Switch).

@OctoAori20 I mean, why even care what text on a screen says? If it bugs you that much, just avoid it altogether and let them screech at each other without you knowing. It's just a game in the end. The extra stress ain't worth it. I've been there, I know.

Folks here are pretty chill for the most part. There may be pinches of salt here and there but it's usually drowned out by mutual congratulations.

Besides, Final Fest ended a year ago, these Splatfests don't matter at all! I'm just doing it for the snails and to shake the rust off my TK Sloshing Machine from time to time.

@Franz

You are totally right here.

GGs Team Chicken. History repeats itself in more ways than one, actually. Same 2-1 category wins (Egg gets the popular vote, Chicken gets the matches), similar popularity vote percentages (41.30%/58.7% to 41.92%/58.08%), and similar win percentages in one category (52.66% Solo to 52.65% Pro). Next time, I definitely gotta get more practice in before the fest.

https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/List_of_Splatfests_in_Splatoon_2

@TeslaChippie @Franz I’m just gonna say that I found the healthy debate here fascinating to read. My lecturers argue about stuff between them all the time and that’s Software Engineering, a relatively new science compared to the length of time scientists have been arguing about questions as fundamental as Chicken vs Egg. I think my personal opinion would be leaning towards Egg, some sort of mutation led to the distinction therefore typically it would have materialised pre-birth. Personally, I don’t buy a pre-chicken changing enough throughout its lifetime to warrant the distinction and then start laying chicken eggs.

@nessisonett There's not really an argument to be had now that we understand very well how organisms change over time, though.

"some sort of mutation led to the distinction therefore typically it would have materialised pre-birth"

You're still thinking of a chicken as a discrete genetic state that is different from that of its parents, which were somehow not chickens. But this isn't the case: no organism that has ever been born was a different species from its immediate ancestor. In other words, no chicken ever hatched from an egg laid by a non-chicken.

"Personally, I don’t buy a pre-chicken changing enough throughout its lifetime to warrant the distinction and then start laying chicken eggs."

You shouldn't because it didn't lol

This is why the question is nonsensical. Neither the chicken nor the egg came first. They developed around each other.

EDIT: I feel like I had to say, I'm glad you enjoyed the debate. It's nice to talk about things without fighting about them.

Another Splatfest victory in my trophy case.

@TeslaChippie The moral of the story is for Splatoon to ask real questions 😂😂

I just wanted to point out that the popularity for the Splatfest is the same votes as recorded on the Nintendolife poll (i.e. 42-58%).

“Chicken” is the correct answer.

I loved Marina's defense for the Egg side-same reason I chose it! Good game everyone, it was a ton of fun!

Ayyy good job fellow chickens. Good games eggs!

Hey nintendo life I know this is off topic but there is going to be a sonic and ninjala crossover its in the news on the switch if you follow the ninjala channel I made a topic about it go check it out.

If you said chicken then you don't know how evolution works lol

I swear I had more Egg Vs Egg matches than Egg Vs Chicken.

@Isaix Somebody a lot more educated than you on the matter HAS been saying ‘Chicken’ though, so clearly there is an argument for it.

Well, I tried...

Good match everyone, until next time, cheers!

@Alaninho But aren't all chicken born from egg how could the chicken be first? The ancestor of the chicken gave birth to something that mutated into the chicken we know today,but it had to have come into the world as an egg no way around that

I went with team chicken and didn't think we'd win until I started playing. Team Egg was not good, which I rarely say about my opponents.

man as "scientifically correct" as team egg was you can't say their team was good, in fact, this splatfest was the first time I played and won a 100x battle (which was sweet) but this never would have have happened if I would've been on team egg. moral of the story: you need skills in a kids game to determine the legitimate facts.

@Sinton
Animal Crossing shares the same development team as Splatoon, therefore they decided to move their resources over to New Horizons because it's a newer game and right now, it's pretty freaking successful.

@Acein210
She is always right! Better learn that now 😂🤣

@NathanTheAsian Sure, but how much work can holding a Splatfest possibly be?

@Kaori-chan Wow I learned a lot of new words today, lol. Thanks for taking the time to write all that.

I think if someone had a gun to my head and told me I HAD to pick one, then I'd pick egg as well. I wouldn't feel good about it though... After all, precisifications aside, the parents of any (viable) chicken egg MUST have also been chickens.

@PaisanoJake @Isaix You guys might like to read the above conversation between @Franz and I. If you think the egg came first, then YOU don't understand how evolution works.

YAY TEAM CHICKEN!!!!

I wonder how many people chose Team Chicken because the ink colour is white.

@PaisanoJake "this splatfest was the first time I played and won a 100x battle (which was sweet) but this never would have have happened if I would've been on team egg. moral of the story: you need skills in a kids game to determine the legitimate facts."

What a way to say you were carried in that game.

I got a lot of egg v egg matches, so there's that. My final score against egg was 20-16. It wasn't great, but I couldn't help it. My NAT type is pretty terrible, so getting matches was a headache (over 15 minutes wait between matches). I couldn't even get a match in sunday.

@Gofixmeaplate beta! Lol jk. But know anytime a man listens to a woman he suffers.

@Acein210 lol

I really struggled to match with many chicken teams at all, is was mostly egg v egg for me this weekend. Shame really, I believe the team who suffers these type of matches is at an inherent disadvantage to the other purely due to the numbers. It took me multiple matches to even fight one which actually mattered, so by the time I was actually fighting team chicken I found my team wasn't playing optimally...
I'm not sure I've articulated that theory very well, but I'm sure if you consider sometimes I was playing 3 or 4 egg v egg matches between egg v chicken matches then perhaps you'll see what I mean.

science may not be able to provide a definitive answer, but language agrees with the splatfest outcome.

if you go to a supermarket you can buy chicken eggs.
what hatches from these eggs? nothing!
and what about eggs with male chicks, that will grow into roosters? still chicken eggs.
that means it isn't important what hatches from the egg, it's a chicken egg only because it was laid by a chicken.
so it doesn't matter what point of evolution would be where the "proto chicken" line ends and the "chicken" line starts, the first chicken egg will always have been laid after the first chicken hatched.

so we can't determine what the first chicken egg and the first chicken are, but we can know in what order they first came into existence.

Surprised we won. It was real tough going on many of those team chickens, and that’s all I’m going to say

Looks like team egg got cooked 😁

@TeslaChippie I just read it and Franz made all the points I wanted to make. There is a pre-chicken. Call it arbitrary if you want, but so many things in life are arbitrary and were "made-up" by humans.

@Sinton
Honestly, I don't know. I too found that there's no realistic reason for Nintendo to discontinue monthly Splatfests, but I guess we'll never know.

@OctoAori20 You can turn off the player posts in the options if you like. That might help make things feel a bit less stressful assuming the player-vs-player nature of the online isn't a major part of the issue.

@Devlind please don't think I'm trying to say that team chicken was good because of me because I've definitely been carried the most this time out of every other splatfest I've played. And don't feel bad that your team lost

I was on Team Egg, and I won 75% of my matches. Really surprised the other team won.

@abbyhitter The thing is, the w-l ratio doesn't matter, or well, it doesn't matter that much. Clout is how they determine who wins. If you win your matches with 51%, but then lose with 25%, at the end of the day you are getting less clout.

@PaisanoJake How on earth did you end up getting that conclusion? I was saying exactly the opposite. And of course I'm not mad about that. Six super sea snails isn't that much of a difference.