Phil Spencer Shuts Down Idea Of Xbox Game Pass Coming To Other Platforms

Microsoft doesn't want to lose the only edge they have, it's totally understandable.

Pretty much what was already said.

Though, to play devils advocate, what would they really have to lose if everyone was buying their subscription service anyway? I know people who don't want an Xbox but get the gamepass just for PC. Getting it on Switch wouldn't hurt.

Did people actually think this was going to happen?

I just want a decent digital store where I can buy Power Stone 2, Chrono Trigger, F-Zero GX, Marvel vs Capcom 2, and Fragile Dreams. I don't get why every console that releases seems to hit reset on their digital catologues. Let people give you money guys.

@Kalmaro I don't think nintendo was ever likely to put a competitors superior product on Switch. It's not a good marketing move

Microsoft just ruin their one and only chance of finding success in Japan. Imagine Xbox Game Pass and xCloud on the Switch. The Japanese audience will ate it up like no tomorrow there just like how Minecraft was on the Switch there. The Japanese they like your games Microsoft, they just don't like you, slapped Nintendo Switch's label on it and you got a market there.

@Heavyarms55 Well, the cooperation that Microsoft and Nintendo has had made this idea more believable for Switch at least.

you'd only get to stream em anyways at home unless you can use your phone as a router

As much as I want xCloud/Game Pass to come to Switch, I can see why it's not. These are MS's two big trump cards going into next gen... and handing them out willy-nilly to competitors could prove to be utterly disastrous.

Like, if they come to Switch, Sony fans would want it too - and, at that point, there'd be no incentive to actually buy an Xbox. And I don't think Microsoft would take too kindly to another Xbone-style catastrophe in sales...

@Wargoose Oh for sure, just a fun thought.

No thanks.
I don't even want any Xbox Game Pass.
First, the games are 100% Digital only.
I don't want digital games.
Digital only games are not cool at all.
Second, most of the games are rated 18+ that i hate most. Almost no cute games at all.
Third, even The Sims 4 on Xbox One was Free but that was only The Sims 4 Base, the Expansion packs were Not Free.
No deal since i have The Sims 4 PS4 version in disc.

@Anti-Matter Did you somehow miss the very obvious super lucky's tale or do you just have a different idea of cute games? They have plenty of family friendly stuff.

@Alpha-2002 There's already less and less reason to buy an Xbox, unless you want physical copies of your game. They keep putting stuff on the cloud. Which is cool, I like having options.

yeah whats wrong with mature rated games? lol

....Just give us Rare Replay already, Microsoft. -.-

I can still kinda see XCloud Coming out on the Switch, but I think Microsoft should have a good plan in order to do that.

For example, you can play XCloud on Switch, but you would have to own an Xbox One or Series and/or have to own a digital copy of the game or pay through the service. That would kinda suck, but reports say that Microsoft is releasing a console going for as low as $200, and if the One S isnt discontinued before and a little after the Xbox Series X releases, it'll be even cheaper

About Nintendo likely not being interested, Nintendo can get a cut of the money for Switch owners.

I really doubt that XCloud will come to switch, and there is almost no way Game Pass is either, but it's fun to think about.

@Kalmaro
Super Lucky's Tale on Xbox One was very lack of proper dynamic 3D view.
The Switch and PS4 (Yes, New Super Lucky's Tale got PS4 version too according to playasia) are the Remake, added with proper dynamic 3D view. Worth to buy than Xbox One version.

The kids games on Xbox One from what i saw from playasia list were mostly 99% same as PS4, so if i want kids games i will choose PS4 or Switch version as they are very easy to be purchased here in Indonesia.

Microsoft never make cute games like Animal Crossing New Horizons.
If they have ever done, their games were not appealing to me (example Viva Pinata) as i get impressed easily by Japanese developers than Western developers.

@Anti-Matter You merely said there were no cute games, it seems you admit that it does have some. You didn't say they had to be exclusive.

The idea is that, with gamepass, you can stream them anywhere.

All we want is Banjo-Kazooie on it's original platform.

@Anti-Matter Gamepass is a rental service it’s not meant to own. You know the difference right? The idea is you buy what you like but try anything. Maybe find a game out of your comfort zone? That’s why’s it’s 100% digital.

BTW New Supers Lucky Tale “the remake version” is coming to Both PS4 and Xbox.

@mousieone
Ah, i see...
I don't want to rent video games too.
When i want the games, i want to own them as my belongings.

Btw, even New Super Lucky's Tale will be on Xbox One again, it still not helping me to consider Xbox One.
I still have two Xbox One exclusive games on my paper:
Disneyland Adventure (port from Xbox 360 with Normal controller play option instead of full Kinect play) and Zoo Tycoon.

I don't think i want to consider Xbox One or Xbox Series X just only for two games only that not even strong or interesting as Animal Crossing New Horizons.

When are Nintendo actually going to do something even remotely good for their online service?

@Anti-Matter you don’t need an Xbox for Gamepass. PC had Gamepass as well. Problem solved.

Again renting a game can help someone maybe decide if there is a genre they don’t normally like rather than spend 60. Like you don’t like uncute games, no worries you can try them as see if maybe you would like it. But if you don’t with Gamepass, you aren’t out 60 bucks.

I’m not sure why you are looking at exclusive games for Xbox again Gamepass is on PC. You don’t have to buy an Xbox.

Aaaaah Nintendo... Nintendo, Nintendo, Nintendo... that’s right, keep shutting third parties out. I mean so far your half assed ports and average exclusive titles have done the trick, so why not ? I thought finally you opened to third parties and tried to have a more diversified audience but no, staying close minded with good ol’ Japanese-style conservationism. Next Nintendo gen is definitely without me.

Will skip next gen ps and Xbox, Only build new PC with game pass and keep my switch. Price of new console games these days are getting ridiculous.

Jog off, Spencer.

We don’t want an Xbox experience on our Nintendo platforms- we want a Rareware experience on our Nintendo platforms.

Eesh- the sheer arrogance that man exhibits is just disgusting.

@mousieone
Unlike most adult male gamers here, i'm looking for any cute or kiddie games like usually on Nintendo machines.
1st party by Microsoft or 3rd party games doesn't matter for me as long they are cute and kiddie.

Games like Story of Seasons, Animal Crossing, Cooking Mama, Imagine series, Petz, Nintendogs, Mii games are example the games i'm looking for.

The problem for Xbox games (OG Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One) they still don't have cute games as strong as Animal Crossing, as girly as Cooking Mama / Style Savvy, as quirky as Mii games, as Kawaii as Japanese cute games on Nintendo (Hello Kitty, Sanrio, Sumikko Gurashi, etc).
It frustrated me as i completely never want to deal with any rated 18+ games on any machines.

"I’m not sure why you are looking at exclusive games for Xbox"
Well, so the purchase of Xbox machines will be worthy for me as Xbox brand is really dead in my country Indonesia.

Even the Xbox Exclusives i was looking for were cute and kiddie games also.
But the amount of the games that caught my attention were so few.
From OG Xbox, i only interested with Dance Dance Revolution Ultramix 1 - 4 (4 games only)
From Xbox 360, i only interested with Dance Dance Revolution Universe 1 - 3, Dance Evolution by Konami, a few Kinect games (less than 10 games)
From Xbox One, only Disneyland Adventures and Zoo Tycoon (only 2 games).

@Wargoose I would also like a decent digital store he’ll anywhere where I can get chase hq 1 and 2, alien storm arcade. Wonder boy arcade. Golden axe arcade. Turbo outrun arcade. Gynoug. Etc. These games would take minutes to download but can’t get them anywhere. Tatsujin, zero wing, rtype 3, turtles in time, sigh xxxx

@DoktorTotenKopf yeah that's not going to happen.

I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft have regrets on giving us Ori and Cuphead, they got absolutely nothing in return for 2 of their exclusive games.

I could genuinely see Microsoft putting Game Pass on other devices and skipping the Switch.

Business relationships work 2 ways and Nintendo have never returned the favour to Microsoft.

Why should Microsoft give anymore to Nintendo?

Rare replay is a fantasy that will never happen.

Ok, but as long as Sea of Thieves comes to Switch, which it probably won't anyway, I'm happy

I love Phil and all, but he should also check out those sweet Cuphead and Ori sales if he wants to be sure whether the other platforms "want a full Xbox experience".

So is he saying that both Sony and Microsoft refused to have a service on their platforms that lets them play all the Xbox games?

If that is the case then that would be a very dumb move on the part of both those companies.

Somehow though I'm sure it's that black and white.

On a similar note, I'm also now wondering why Steam isn't available on all the console platforms too. . . .

@Razer Microsoft as a whole sucks and the Xbox alone is proof of that.

Keep your negativity to yourself.

What he means is that Nintendo wouldn't allow Xbox achievements, etc., or perhaps he's disappointed in Nintendo for not giving any game to Xbox after he gave Cuphead and Ori to Switch. Since they're competition he expects to get something, too. If you want Microsoft's games the best way is doing what Sakurai and get an Xbox. I did and I don't regret it. Another option is to play Game Pass on PC or xCloud on your phone but my preference is consoles 😉.

Lots of people seem to be making it sound like MS would hold this back to attract Xbox sales. Very much doubt that’s the case when they are putting XCloud on Android devices. It was always clear that Sony and Nintendo would need to come to the party and it’d take a huge amount of convincing for them even to spend 5 minutes discussing it.

We’ve just come off around 2 years of sustained pressure for Sony only to recently even open up the system to cross play with consoles. Having people distribute games on their platform is miles away from where they are at.

And Nintendo? They’re also very well known for wanting control of their ecosystem. While they have been more open to cross platform play than Sony, they’re still very protective of their IPs and ecosystems. It was always a stretch that they’d allow a shop front on their system. The system right now has almost no non gaming services offered in its store, it’s a pretty controlled environment.

From MSs perspective if they could sell subscriptions to buyers of other consoles, that’d be a huge win for them. There isn’t stacks of money to be made in hardware sales and while it’s great to sell units so you can get loyalties from game sales, if someone owns a Switch or PS4/PS5 there’s a good chance they have already closed the door on MS anyway. Having a streaming service would allow them to monetise an audience they otherwise miss out on entirely. Can’t see why they’d turn that up if they had a window to release the service on Switch or PS.

Looks like Phil "we have been listening" Spencer fancies his chances at next gen so the nice guy act is falling to the way side (Gold no longer 12 months, discontinuing Series X, this)

He doesn't have a chance though, Sony will walk next gen with Nintendo alongside them marching to their own beat as always.

Regarding Gamepass, could not care less. I have no interest in netflix style servies for games, if I want a game I buy it, I am not gonna sign up for a service in hope a game I want appears on it (Xbox first party line up does not appeal to me). Also I just do not see it as sustainable for game devs but I guess we will see how that plays out.

@Smigit I agree and I also think that if Microsoft discussed Game Pass with Nintendo or Sony, both Nintendo and Sony's demands would be difficult to agree on.

its more like sony and nintendo dont want xbox on their hardware.

@Razer

Nintendo owe nothing to Microsoft, you think Nintendo approached Mircosoft about those games?

Nah it was a Microsoft who were trying to make some cash releasing their games on a Nintendo console with a userbase fast approaching the Xbox One userbase (now surpassed in less than half the time) that they thought would appeal to the Nintendo crowd.

@electrolite77 I don’t think Nintendo’s issue would be so much with streaming itself as a delivery method, it’d be that MS controls distribution and revenue for Game Pass subscriptions. The Resident Evil 7 release on Switch was an eShop release so it still went through Nintendo’s shopfront. There’s a high chance that MS would expect to be able to offer subscriptions without Nintendo making a cut, given people can subscribe external to the eShop using MSs payment portals.

If we look elsewhere, I believe there’s been additional complications around an iOS release vs Android, in part due to Apple’s policies and requirements. I suspect a Nintendo or Sony offering would have similar issues, if not more so.

@Incarna Doesn't make sense. Microsoft wants to sell software not hardware. The fact that you can use game pass on PC, phones, and tablets is proof of that.

Sounds like he's speaking for Sony / Nintendo, claiming that they don't want the full Xbox experience on their platforms. (Which is probably accurate)

@electrolite77 It's hard to stop a gamepass subscription?

As Switch doesn't currently have anything similar, I'd welcome it. Nintendo and Nvidia could have released Geforce now on Switch at any point, it holds up and would have bolstered Switch's "home" console aspect greatly. As always there's hidden catch's in these deals and statements so one party isn't completely happy. Marrying two systems has never been done 100% successfully.

Dude's head is like a dumptruck full of random industry words lol

@Incarna how is PS plus overpriced? Its 60 for a year and many times you can get it cheaper. Sony offers enough free games that you'll get your money back. If you get PS Plus and PS now (both at 60 a year) it will cost you 120 a year while with Xbox game pass ultimate it is 180 a year since it's 15 dollars a month.

Sony has been improving PS Now. You can download the PS4 and PS2 games from it onto your system.

With PS plus I've more than earned my money back every year so I'm really confused as to how it is overpriced in your mind.

@TheFullAndy what about you buying the games you want, and using Gamepass to play the exclusives or discover new games. Jeez it’s just an option, is not like you are forbidden from buying games.

Some people it’s like they just don’t like having options. And I’m sure Xbox and Microsoft Will be just fine next gen

It was a nice idea, but not getting it doesn't make me lose sleep either. Paradox of Choice is a real thing and I have a feeling that we will be dealing with it with gaming subscription services as much as it can happen with Netflix. I would rather Nintendo address the issue with their own eShop and perhaps offering something similar to cover their own huge back catalog that is currently missing.

I wish they had Gamepass several years ago. I think it’s pretty cool. I probably spend $60-$100 per month on games anyway. This, plus Apple Arcade would be $20. Buy only the Nintendo exclusives I want and the occasional must have games. I would cut my gaming bill in half at least.

@Darknyht I think they should do something like Apple Arcade. Work with Indy developers and maybe even their own IP like they have on occasion with smaller titles. But yeah, subscription is not going away and Nintendo will have to contend with it in the next few years.

@Casco

I am not denying anyone else from using Gamepass, just said it isn't something I am interested in.

What is your problem with that?

And actually I think Xbox will struggle big time next gen.

@rockodoodle I like the idea and hate it at the same time. Game Pass (and all subscription services) is something that you spend a lot of money on and have nothing to show at the end. Plus, the longer you spend into the service, the most invested you are and the harder it is to walk away. The same thing happens with Game Consoles and digital purchases, it is painful to walk away from hundreds of dollars of digital product when you switch to another console.

Nintendo Switch Online is cheap enough that I don't care as much, but I've felt that pain twice now (Wii -> 360, 360 -> Wii U) and it is a painful process. Especially with the Wii one since I lost everything due to Nintendo's horrible policies.

@electrolite77 Ahhh, fair enough.

@Anti-Matter My head hurts and my patience is low. I’m talking about a service that is not exclusive to its platform holder. And you keep talking hardware. This conversation is going nowhere so I think it’s a good time to stop

@Darknyht good point. I had PS Plus for my Vita for two years. Granted, that really was not the same model, but I now have about a hundred games that I have to signed back up to play.

Deal is with me- I am such a casual player that I buy a game that looks cool, play it a while and then distracted and don't play it for a long time.

@Darknyht and yeah, I am concerned about my digital 3ds games. They are going to shut down the eShop eventually and I will be so screwed if something happens to my system, even tho I have a back up device.

This says that Game Pass is not coming to Switch. it does not say xCloud is not. Not saying it is, but as a mobile device with built in controls and an existing association between the companies, that's always a possibility though I can't see why Nintendo would want that.

Game Pass....I mean that was NEVER a remote possibility for Switch... It makes no sense 90% of the games couldn't run on Switch and would need an entirely different version. that's different than having a Switch client app for xCloud subscribers, however.

@Kalmaro they would lose a lot actually. If game pass was on other consoles there would be no point in buying a xbox. Xbox makes a lot of money off of games sold on their consoles. The trade off wouldn't be worth it I would suspect.

@Dirty0814 I thought that too, but with their games already coming on gamepass, you don't need an Xbox anyway to play them. So either way, they are making owning an Xbox redundant.

I got gamepass and I don't own an Xbox. I can even stream their games to my phone and play that way.

@Casco "@TheFullAndy what about you buying the games you want, and using Gamepass to play the exclusives or discover new games. Jeez it’s just an option, is not like you are forbidden from buying games.

Some people it’s like they just don’t like having options. And I’m sure Xbox and Microsoft Will be just fine next gen"

Exactly! People can still buy games on Xbox. Actually, you get a discount if you are subscribed to Game Pass and want to buy a game and there are also frequent sales with first-party games included.

If it came to Switch then yes, it would be pretty welcome of course it would. But the question for Nintendo Switch owners is - would it really make you feel any different about the system? Would it actually make that much difference? Surely the answer is no. Xbox doesn’t have much over the Switch anyway - if anything, being realistic about this, it would do a favour to MS having it on Switch more than vice versa.

@BlueOcean

And?

@TheFullAndy Nothing but you are like those that say Nintendo doomed but about Microsoft.

@BlueOcean

Microsoft are releasing a next gen console without any first party games exclusive to said next gen console for the first couple of years.

Microsoft are not in any danger but the Xbox brand and Microsoft as a console maker is certainly in doubt.

@TheFullAndy Why? Microsoft doesn't depend on console sales only. Xbox exclusives are Xbox exclusives available on consoles and Windows. xCloud is available on Android. They have 15 game studios now. Besides, I honestly think that they're going to sell tons of Series X consoles, gaming PCs are too expensive for most people.

@BlueOcean

Why would someone buy a Series X when they can play the latest Halo or Forza on their One S or One X?

There is no real incentive to shell out money for a Series X.

Also everytime someone says "Microsoft does not depend on consoles" they can't seem to then see a future where Microsoft decides to stop making consoles and become a third party service with game pass.

Make no mistake Sony will dominate the next gen so maybe the big wigs at Microsoft will just decide to stop wasting money making consoles. They most likely will.

@TheFullAndy Why would someone play on a 2020 PC instead of playing on a 2013 PC? It's the same question. As much as you want Xbox to fail, it won't.

@BlueOcean

Console gamers are different from PC players.

I guess we will wait and see.

@Anti-Matter

Crazy how you missed games like Super Lucky's Tale, the Retro replay games, Ori, Cuphead, Minecraft, the upcoming Ooblets & more on the Xbox when banging on them for their 18+ games while in the same breath talk about your ps4. As they have quite a few games that go out of their way just as much if not more to have games that aren't exactly "cute" & seemingly would absolutely disgust you like gow, the almost masochistic & satirical in it's violence tlou2 & more.

All of these consoles, including Nintendo's have a lot of 18 + games. So I don't know how you can really single out any of these companies on that front. You can choose Fortnite and Disneyland Adventures just as easily on the Xbox as any of the other two mate. Lol

@gameboy1975 Anti-Matter has serious memory problems 😜.

Steps in....see's console wars "company should stop making product because other company has the larger market share" arguments.....walks out.....

@TheFullAndy

😆 Wow, if that's not a grade A example of fanboy/hating coupled with some gratuitous cult worship, nothing is. LMAO Jesus Christ could you fanboy & hate on one while shamelessly shill & lap dance so hard for another much harder? Oof..

@BlueOcean

Man, that was seriously pathetic. The sad part is that while you would hope that they're only like 12 years old at best, they're depressingly probably like 40 plus & still have that sort of pathetic 🐂$#!t come out of their mouth lmao

@gameboy1975

You are free to see it that way.

I don't hate Xbox, I hate Microsoft's approach to next gen.

I will probably pick up a Series X if they impress in this weeks event.

I am just giving my view on how I see it playing out.

If anything you sound slightly unhinged.

@BlueOcean

Or, maybe they're one of those laughable types that only love options when their favorite toy maker is giving them to them? I've certainly seen plenty of those types over the years.

@gameboy1975

Yo numpty, at no point have I said I have an issue with options, just it is an option I don't care about.

@TheFullAndy Remember when EA created a 3rd party service, and Sony said: "Nope, we won't let you host it on our PS4." That's why Microsoft will continue to make consoles.

@NotoriousWhiz

Yet EA Access is now on Playatation.

Sony and Nintendo will not let Gamepass on their systems while Xbox consoles are still a thing. The view might change considerably if Microsoft drop out of the console race.

@TheFullAndy

Yeah okay buddy lol. I take you calling me unhinged after your little Microsoft hating, sony tail kissing tirade about as seriously as I would an offer by uber pedo Jeffrey Epstein to watch my young niece's as I go out of town for a weekend pal. In case you're confused, that's not at all. Go take a nap somewhere guy.

@gameboy1975

I get sarcasm mate, even overly explained rubbish sarcasm such as yours.

I am calling you unhinged cause you are a man seemingly in their 40s who replies to me talking like a 5 year old then replies to Blue Ocean twice about me, also talking like a 5 year old.

Sort yourself out.

I'd love XCloud on the Switch with access to the lighter games in your Xbox digital account.
And a Platform specific (xCloud) Game Pass option to try other Xbox games on your non Xbox console.

@TheFullAndy It is, but they can change their mind anytime they want and what will Microsoft do then? Start from scratch releasing another console? Nope. They'll just keep doing what they're doing. If they released game pass on Nintendo / Sony's consoles, then maybe they can consider going 3rd party, but probably not before then.

@retro_player_77 Highly unlikely because American brands are failures in Japan no matter what they do to appease them. No one in Japan wants to play Halo. That's why many American brands stopped focusing on Japan or gave up on Japan. Fanboys of Nintendo won't buy Game Pass because it's an Xbox service. Xbox fans will already have an Xbox. It seems like Microsoft might be getting close to giving up on Japan. The only benefit is easily impressionable multi-platform gamers who play on all platforms.

@NotoriousWhiz Sony is not gonna want Xbox games and Nintendo games on their console.

@generalgorilla19 It's not the games they are opposed to, it's the entire online service.

@Ruthven It's doesn't have to be just the lighter games. It's all streaming. That's why it works on phones / tablets. Every single game on gamepass regardless of how demanding it is, can be streamed from an xbox console to (your device of choice).

@NotoriousWhiz

Releasing gamepass on Nintendo or Sony consoles is Microsoft going third party whether they keep making consoles or not.

Thing is Nintendo nor Sony actually need Gamepass on their consoles, they are doing just fine without it.

@TheFullAndy Not exactly. Most gamers prefer physical software over streaming. Being able to stream your games to another platform isn't remotely the same as having it physically downloaded to the hardware.

And you're right, neither of them need Gamepass. But having gamepass potentially cannibalizes their own subscription offerings (NSO and PSNow).

@NotoriousWhiz

Yeah you are right if it is just streaming games.

From the way big Phil has worded his answer it seems Microsoft went to Sony and Nintendo regarding Gamepass and they both said no probably because:

1. They are both doing well with their respective console business.
2. Why would they when Xbox consoles still exist as competition.

@jarvismp Nintendo fanboys are haters to Xbox.

@SuperGhirahim64

Yeah, certainly can't agree with you there. I'm against the bulk of these subscriptions & crap as much as anyone, but Game Pass is legit. And it certainly piques my interest more and more by the day. You can get crazy cool looking games like Carrion day one on gamepass! not to mention all the AAA goodness that I see on offer there quite consistently. It might be the best dealing gaming among the three.

On an adjacent note I find it funny this narrative that certain fanboys out there perpetuate & wants everyone to conveniently parrot & believe these days is that exclusives are the only thing that matters. Which conveniently only seemed to come about once they started getting exclusive that were received well & finally worth talking about on there favorite little toy box. Something that abso-frigging-lutely tickles me pink since I'm old enough to remember when Nintendo (who've always did great on the exclusives front) didn't get that same respect & understanding from most of these same people LOL.

Hell, the minute you mentioned a Nintendo exclusive or it got received well, they were like "bu-b-but 3rd party this or 3'rd party that" & propping them up as Rafiki would Simba. Funny how that changed for many the second they saw what having an exclusive wasn't mediocre or outright sucked & garnering itself a 2nd look felt like heh heh.

Luckily though, many of us aren't that easily duped, herded or manipulated & realize that there is much more to gaming then the handful of exclusives that come out every gen for a system. Most gamers that truly game a lot know that while you can appreciate & even prefer those exclusives over many other games, multiplats are usually going to make up the bulk of your library. That is unless you only play like 8 to 12 games or so on a system per generation. Even on my rarely used ps4 I've managed to rack up more multiplats than exclusives ( even if not by much).

@TheFullAndy

Nah, that's just you being salty lil lady. And an ASSumingly wrong one at that. As I'm certainly not in my 40's. You're just a clown that was smoking off sony, hating on Microsoft & got mad that people opposed some our nonsense & called you & your lameness out. Anyway, you're weak fam... & you bore me.

Luckily here 🤡's like you can be silenced once I tire of you. So go ahead & ironically get your last words in (that I thankfully won't have to see) like the lil girl or boy you're pretending not to be. Then maybe go take a nap somewhere Boomer. You sound like you're roids are flaring up & all that butt-hurt's got you cranky

@gameboy1975

Deary me aren't you a pathetic little one.

Put me on ignore, please!

@Slowdive everyone who did goldeneye left the company its also license for music sorry my dude never gonna happen.

Game Pass for Indies would be great on Switch. Tons of the stuff people paying $19/$29 are on the service.

I personally just need it on PC. That is enough for me.

@SuperGhirahim64

Which is why I never said that your opinion was wrong, stupid or ever tried to invalidate it. I just simply disagree with it. And what I base it on is some anecdotal evidence, some deducible in your face info & even straight up hard numbers et cetera. Things like my personal library always having about that many games or more even if it's a system that I barely power on. Which is seemingly in line with many of my gamer friends & some of their buddies

Also the fact that outside of Nintendo, the top 10 games lists for others are virtually always dominated by third-party software. Where an exclusive comes out, gets a little bump as expected and then often times just disappears. I could also point to where playing devil's advocate I'll ask if exclusives are such an important end all/be all, why do they sometimes hate or shun on a system that constantly has/had them & I get no real answer? I also get a tickle watching as they try bending logic & often twist themselves into knots trying to explain why the exclusives that they rant about & swear by aren't even selling to 15%-20% of the ginormous userbases that they often like to brag about?

Then there's also just the straight up facts of even if we just count the SKU specific units sold ,that they're a lot of times outselling exclusives of those systems? Just look at how well grand theft auto is still doing on say a Microsoft or sony's top software sold list some time. Hell, I remember looking at one chart a little while ago where Minecraft (a MS game) was actually selling better than sony's own games on the system. Might have actually been to top seller that month. Anyway fellow board member, hopefully that's an adequate & thorough enough response.

I don't see why we'd need an xbox pass on another console? It seems kinda nonsensical.

@DoktorTotenKopf What's that multi colored creature on your avatar from?

@Tempestryke It’s from a Tales From The Darkside episode- “Inside The Closet”.

Highly recommend you watch it; it may be a trifle cheesy nowadays but it’s still fun to watch.

I’ve got several shelves as well as several terabytes full of creepy films, soundtracks, gifs, stills and television shows from that incredible decade. 💀

I think people are reading this all wrong.

From numerous interviews and articles it was very clearly a message that MS games would have achievements and that Xbox Live would be available through these games. Microsoft has been pushing for an open ecosystem, and I bet that talks broke down with Nintendo and they decided they didn't want another online infrastructure on their system.

Microsoft wasn't being arrogant and they weren't the reason it broke down like it did, guaranteed. They said that other platforms (not consumers) didn't want Xbox Live on other platforms, which was clearly what they wanted to achieve through Switch.

@Slowdive STILL not gonna happen.

As far as I know, we all just wanted Banjo & Kazooie on a modern Nintendo platform is some capacity (in this case Smash) and they delivered on that demand. In theory; I don’t see how Game Pass might work on Switch, I think it’s better to just release these XBOX games as stand-alone releases in some form, like with Minecraft, Ori, The Outer Worlds, Hellblade and Cuphead. In the case of Rare Replay; I can see a three volume collection covering more games from Rare, including those published by Nintendo as a bonus.(outside of Goldeneye 007 for obvious reasons) I can also Panic Button port versions of the Halo and Gears of War games given their amazing work with DOOM and the like. All and all, we care less about Game Pass’s offerings, but care more for those legacy XBOX exclusives.

@DoktorTotenKopf Cool. Will do.

@RPGamer

I have no idea? I don't recall hearing anyone express that particular desire.

@graysoncharles So your under some strange delusion that Microsoft has never sold a single Xbox? Because aside from being in the computer business, I seem to recall them being in the console business for quite some time.

Is anyone else concerned xcloud will eat into switches cake?

@TheFullAndy lol if you think Microsoft needed Nintendo's cash you have NO IDEA how business works.

Microsoft didn't approach Nintendo to hand them exclusive games for a bit of cash like they are about to go bust.

Microsoft can swallow Nintendo 10 times over and still have a business bigger than Sony's.

Microsoft made that move to stimulate another future move, if Nintendo ever does go under, the first place they'll run to will be Microsoft. Not that it will ever happen and Microsoft won't be counting on it.

But business moves like this have long term intentions in mind, like eventually getting something back in return, a company as big as Microsoft are not looking for handouts from Nintendo.

If you don't realise that Microsoft gave Nintendo exclusives for long term gains then you have a very limited vision on how business works.

@Razer

Actually I think you are thinking about this way too much.

Microsoft wanted to sell more games and build up brand awareness so they went to Nintendo who they don't see as a direct competitor like Sony and asked to release some games they thought would appeal to the Nintendo crowd. Nintendo allowed them to, that is Nintendo doing Microsoft the favour, and taking a 30% cut for their efforts.

You are deluded if you think Nintendo owes Microsoft anything for that.

@generalgorilla19 - I'm one of the strange few who loves both Nintendo & Microsoft... (but not Sony)
I would welcome with both arms XCloud on my Switch, so I can play all my Xbox one games on the go.