Later this week, Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition arrives on the Nintendo Switch. According to Monolith Soft president Takahashi Tetsuya, returning players can look forward to "about 20 hours" of new content in the epilogue story Future Connected - although his own most recent playthrough took him about "10 to 12 hours" to complete.
Why did the developer include this new content in the first place, though? In the same Q&A with Famitsu recently Tetsuya explained how there were two reasons:
I’m half-joking here, but there was a lingering feeling of pity towards Melia, but really, there were two reasons. First, it would appeal to existing fans and would continue the story towards the future of Xenoblade, and second, so we could finally show off the shoulder of Bionis, a map that didn’t fit into the main game, but was perfectly suited for this role.
So, there you go! If you'd like to read more of this interview, be sure to check out our full translation. Will you be trying out the Definitive Edition of Xenoblade Chronicles later this week? Tell us below.
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That sounds better than what I was expecting when I first heard about this coming to Switch:
1. Money
2. More money
I figured at first that they were just upscaling the game and adding more content to entice people to double dip, if they didn't buy it already.
Instead, reading up on their decisions for doing all of this, you get a sense that they are truly passionate about this game.
I can't wait to pick it up, I'm kinda glad I waited to play it all these years.
Too bad I've already finished this one on Wii and 3DS. 60 bucks is too much for the third release of this game, given it's only $20 on Wii U, but who am I to change Nintendo's pricing policies.
Maybe on a big sale, if that ever happens...
@rushiosan The only way to get Nintendo games for cheap, is to get physicals in bargain bin when the console is gone from the market.
@Ventilator That's true. Or unload a lot of Gold Points on them.
The greatest rpg of all time is coming so soon. Can’t wait any longer, my preload is ready.
“...Continue the story towards the future of Xenoblade....”
Well that’s says a lot in a sentence!
I hope that the epilogue is as good as the main game, though it's gonna be a bit jarring loosing some main story mechanics and everyone but Shulk and Melia. I hope they've done something wild to justify it just being just Shulk and Melia from the main game with something like they're on their honeymoon and then things go south really fast.
Thanks. It let easy understand what this is about.
How much money did it cost to add the new 20 hour epilogue story, and how much did it cost to make the normal base game
Continue the story to the future?
Does that mean this will lead into Xenoblade 3?
@mesome713 breath of fire 3 on ps1 was a good rpg
I recognise the boss I got stuck on last time in that video. So I seriously doubt I could make it to the extra content.
@geni53yr7 Yeah, that was really good. 2 was amazing too.
@mesome713 yes 2 is a little better, I got it on my switch online
I preordered on Amazon, which usually is fine, since they do release date shipping to Prime members, but because of the current world situation I won’t be getting the game until June 2. I’m tempted to cancel and buy elsewhere, but they just dropped the preorder price by ten bucks. Trying to determine whether I’m ok waiting five days or if I should just go out and buy it in a store.
@geni53yr7 Was fun pickpocking people. Classic.
@thesilverbrick walmart in store sells brand new switch games for $50 instead of $60
@Ryall I got stuck until I started using Melia and the Nopon fella 👍🏻
@Kalmaro If Nintendo and third party publishers want money, HDifying the Wii library will work. The Wii might have been plagued with shovelware, but the same circumstances which led to it also led to a large number of inventive games which couldn't be developed today, being too risky for investment-conscious AAA studios, but beyond the scope of smaller indie teams. I'd put the best of the Wii against any other console, and I'd love to see it given the love it deserves, and not left to be merely pleasant gaming memories.
@JimmySpades Got any Wii games in mind?
I still think this is one of the best RPGs of all time, maybe the best aside from Chrono Trigger on a Nintendo platform. If you haven't played it, it's worth the money. I think it's the only game I've double dipped on at full price. That being said, is it fair to charge people full price for a updated game? In general maybe, people can make the decision if they want to buy it or not. That's how free markets work. Still I'll judge Nintendo for Wind Waker HD as it was simply an up-scaled re-release that probably took little to know effort to update. At least with XCDE they are adding new content and not just up-scaling the game but have created completely new assets. Though I have much respect for Monolith Soft as even the XC2 DLC was way more content than they needed to produce for just $30.
@JimmySpades XBC was also a major underperformer on the Wii (at least in the west), suffering a bit from coming out around the transition to the Wii U. It got stellar reviews, but didn't sell very well iirc. I think it did much better on the New 3DS, but there's definitely going to be a population that simply hasn't played it yet.
@geni53yr7 It probably cost less than you'd think. As the Shoulder was already an existing (though unused) map, they didn't have to waste time doing environmental designs or planning. I'd expect that if we ever find out it'll probably ended up costing a good chunk less than Golden City of Torna did to make, with comparable content. But honestly? I'd expect that the two probably cost about the same, or that the base game cost only a bit more than the epilogue. Between redirecting all the cutscenes, upscaling all the textures, remodeling chunks of environment and all the characters, QoL improvements, new lighting and a brand new UI on top of normal porting costs, they had to have spent a pretty chunk of change on the base game.
@PerishSong part of the reason it did not sell well was that Nintendo simply didn't do a big print run, because "shop" demand was small. Alot of shops were struggling and going out of business over these years, so went with mainstream games primarily.
@thesilverbrick I’d go to the store, most price match and Walmart usually has switch games for $50 instead of $60. I think they do this because they know there are companies that give a discount as a preorder bonus. Regardless you should be able to get it in store for the same price.
Honestly, after knowing it's going to run at 30 fps and a resolution of 504p/720p docked, and 378p/540p undocked, I lost all interest in this "remaster". They've made pretty much another Xenoblade 2, but with no excuses now (it's just a REMASTER, damn it, and it's been several years since Switch was released...), and there's no way I'm paying full price for this. I'll get it much later on, in a big sale or second hand.
What a HUGE dissappointment.
@rushiosan That too. I did actually get Zelda Links Awakening for 20 bucks on release a different way, because of price protection payback of something else i bought. Got a voucher and i used it on Zelda to get it cheap.
@thesilverbrick I've been on an anti-Amazon kick since signing up for a month of Prime 4 weeks ago. Yes, I know we are in a pandemic, and I knew 2 day shipping would take a little longer, but I thought a day or 2 longer, not an entire extra week. Ordered 3 items from them, each in stock and listed as "Prime', two took 5 days and the other 9 days. After paying $14.11, which is $12.99 + tax. I don't think they should have kept accepting Prime monthly subscriptions, and continuing to advertise 2-day shipping, when it takes them 5 and 9 days to deliver. I live in NY, 5-9 days is what it takes my "free shipping" orders to deliver. I ordered several items form Target the day after Amazon and got them a day earlier with free shipping.
Here's part of the email when I turned off auto-renew:
"As a reminder, your Prime membership gives you access to exclusive member-only benefits, including unlimited Free Two-Day Shipping on millions of items,"
And to make matters worse, they have NO functioning email right now. The largest "e"-commerce company in the world has no "e"-mail, let that sink in. That's what they told me on twitter via DM:
"We're sorry for the inconvenience, Robert! We don't have an e-mail address we provide to customers. We're happy to help via Twitter"
That was 2 weeks ago. I keep DMing them, they don't reply either.
If I don't hear from them soon I'm contacting my credit card company and fighting the $14.11. Not for the money, but for the lack of email and twitter correspondence. And for continuing to advertise Prime shipping that they don't deliver.
So yeah, long off topic comment, but that's how annoyed I am at them right now.
@FargusPelagius its more complicated than that. Nintendo Of America did not want to sell the game, Xenoblade was one of the three games involved in Operations Rainfall. If I'm remembering correctly Gamestop got the exclusive rights to sell the game and jacked the price up.
This will be the best Friday in a long time!
I'm ready for my upcoming Xenoblade Chronicles weekend! I've never played the first game before; I've only played X, which is more like an unrelated spin-off to my understanding. I really enjoyed that one.
@FargusPelagius GameStop got exclusive retail rights to Xenoblade Chronicles but were selling brand new copies as "used" for $99. I checked 4 different stores and it was all the same. On the rack, a brand new, freshly opened case with a crisp instruction manual with a 'used - $99' sticker on it. Nope, never gonna pay for an obvious markup. And by the time I realized I could have also bought it directly from Nintendo for $50, they had run out. GameStop helped contribute to the game selling poorly in NA due to greed.
@rjejr I agree with you 1000%!
Folks get annoyed with me when I bash Amazon’s shipping lately...”but we’re in a pandemic”.
I get that we’re in a pandemic. But if Target can deliver my bluray movies on release day and if a third party seller can deliver an old video game using basic usps within three days, why oh why can’t Amazon, the world’s largest retailer and hands down one of the most powerful companies in the world (so much so that they don’t pay taxes the way you and I have to), figure out how to deliver my vitamins?! When I called their customer service you know what they say to me, “it’s a pandemic sir”. I explained that my vitamins were considered “essential to health” and should not take 3 weeks to deliver to me. He spoke with his manager. They didn’t care. I canceled my order and didn’t renew my Prime subscription.
Don’t misunderstand. I’m not simply being bratty and I understand that things are difficult for everybody everywhere right now. But Amazon really pooped the bed the last few months and nobody is holding them responsible. End rant. Lmao.
@Kalmaro I played, but never finished it, I'm willing to grab it though...
@Kalmaro
I can fill in with a rather inventive game on the Wii (one I'd love to see given the remaster treatment, considering its biggest flaw was muddy low-quality textures... and the combat, besides the neat tug-of-war chain fights with bosses, was a bit too basic): Pandora's Tower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifmeGV1AYrU
It never got the attention it deserved, the forgotten 3rd child of the Operation Rainfall family (Xenoblade Chronices and The Last Story being the other 2) so to say, and it was a really neat game with a good story and a great classical soundtrack.
This is by no means the best rpg of all time but definitely the best rpg on the wii, if not the beat rpg on a Nintendo console other than the witcher 3 maybe
@NinjaSyao Oooooh hey, a friends of mine LOVES that game, he would never stop raving about it so I finally checked it out one day. It looked interesting.
@RPGamer #31 your comment, handle and avatar are just a perfect composition, love it! 😆
Did they explain why it runs at 504p docked too?
@GrandScribe well I gave the U.K point of view. Wii shelf space in shops was massively reduced at that time, much more PS3 and 360, so shops barely ordered in copies of Wii games in part due to trade ins. Financially dedicated game shops were struggling and went out of business by 2013.
@NinjaSyao I have the Gold collectors coins for owning all 3. Xenoblade is the highlight, but Last story would be great if remastered, if only to play it at a stable frame rate. Pandora's Tower was the Castlevania game Konami should have been making.
@masterLEON ahh U.K here and all I can say is my local HMV had one copy and never got another. Game tried to charge £50 (it was £40 at HMV), and again had 1 copy.
About 3 months later the second hand trade ins shops had the odd copy for £50, then they all went under to some degree. Bought by other companies or bankrupt.
When will the review be posted?
This was part of the interview last week...
@the_beaver
If you don't mind me asking, where did you get the Resolution and FPS info from? 🤔
@ACNHislit gamexplain and Nintendoeverything.com.
I can't wait to play the Metroid Trilogy HD collection in 480P.
@sixrings
Okay. 👍 Just curious. 😆
Yikes, hopefully Monolith Soft fixes the Resolution and FPS in a future patch. (or a Day One patch) 🤔😬
So, is it stable at 30 FPS, at least? 🤔
@Kalmaro At the top of the list would be Nintendo's first party work. Of course, I suspect I don't need to tell Nintendo that, and that there's a reason that remasters of the Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime games are so heavily rumored, but just about everything Nintendo did would be worth revisiting: Donkey Kong, Kirby, Fire Emblem, even Skyward Sword. (I kid. Especially Skyward Sword.)
Among third-party titles Fragile Dreams is in my mind the pinnacle of hidden gems.
The remaining Rainfall games deserve it, as @NinjaSyao has correctly pointed out. Little King's Story was a wonderfully charming RTS/RPG, Zach and Wiki was a wonderfully charming puzzle game, and No More Heroes was an action-adventure game. Lost in Shadow betrayed too much of its budget development status to be essential, but the core concept would be well served by better production values and the game remains worth playing. A Boy and His Blob has a hug button, and if anyone needs more convincing than that then they're dead to me. And the copy of Deadly Creatures I found on eBay hasn't arrived yet so I can't comment on the gameplay, but it was a new IP featuring a playable scorpion and tarantula; I don't think I'm going out on a limb saying that would not likely be approved by a publisher today.
Those games looked fine early in the Wii's lifespan but didn't quite hold up, precisely because of what Nintendo thought wouldn't happen, namely how quickly HD spread, and not just among dedicated gamers. It would be nice to see what they'd look like in current market.
@ACNHislit sure:
https://mobile.twitter.com/masagratordev/status/1264790195834060800
@the_beaver yeah this games a hard pass for me based on that.
378p is SD and if I want to play games in SD I'll whip out my 3DS. I can play this on there too.
Their asking for too much money to begin with, add this problem and that's a deal breaker for me.
I was looking forward to this. Guess my next JRPG fix will hopefully come from Atlus's upcoming SMT game.
When’s the review embargo up?
Xenoblade 1 is just a little better than Xenoblade 2. That's the truth.
@sixrings I hope they manage high Res for those. The Originals look so brilliant at 1080p, literally spruce up some textures and effects and the games would look amazing.
I assume it connects more directly to Xeno 2 as well, judging from that game's last chapter or so
This announcement came at the right time. I was about to start a second play through after finishing the game years ago. Literally all I needed to do was power on the Wii U and start again but then they announced on the small direct I got hyped! 3 more days!!
@Ks123 Yeah pretty much all of that. And while nobody has defended Amazon to me directly I read it alot.
They accepted my $12.99 on May 3rd.
They advertised 2 day shipping.
They took 5 and 9 days.
They have NO email.
I don't understand how that works and how anyone can defend it. And as you said, Target - which I'm been ordering a lot of snack food from for my 2 teenage sons - always gets stuff here in a few days, with free shipping.
Amazon needs to stop accepting new Prime customers.
Stop advertising unlimited Free Two-Day Shipping and for the luv of gawd get a functioning email address. Seriously. Email. Now.
I ordered my kid the King K Rool amiibo last night, from Amazon, w/ my still active Prime, due in 7 days, June 1. WHY THE HECK DOES IT STILL SAY PRIME SHIPPING!?!?!?
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K5MKNMJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I didn't want to buy from them, but my kid wanted it so...
@FargusPelagius Last Story was a fun game, unique enough gameplay to stand out, cool characters and banter between them. The multiplayer was pretty fun too, of the bit I played, co-op and team pvp. The graphics were pretty muddy though, and I felt the ending wasn't very good. It just sort of lost steam and fizzled imo.
Finished my 100% play through of the Wii version last year so won't be picking this up still. It was so long, doing all those side quests. More looking forward to Nier remake as I haven't touched that in years.
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