While Pokémon Sword and Shield has been a smash-hit all over the world, its release has been dogged by debates over what has become known as "Dexit" – the removal of legacy Pokémon from the game's National Pokédex. Prior to launch, developer Game Freak announced that it had made the decision to remove certain monsters from the game and later stated that it would be doing the same for future instalments, which sparked a backlash from certain parts of the community.
The debate was revived last week when it was confirmed that the upcoming expansions – The Isle of Armor and The Crown Tundra – will feature "over 200" monsters from past Pokémon games. While Game Freak has stated that these monsters will still be available to those who don't purchase the expansion pass, the news has still attracted a small but vocal negative response.
Game Freak co-founder and head of development Junichi Masuda – who has worked on every mainline Pokémon game since the series began – is even getting heat on his birthday over the whole thing, as spotted by Video Games Chronicle.
A group of fans wished him a happy birthday on Twitter, but one user – the only one that Masuda has replied to directly, at the time of writing – decided to take him to task for "the decision to remove old Pokémon so that you can make money from DLC" – a clear reference to the recent expansion pass announcement.
A clearly exasperated Masuda posted:
It’s a public holiday today and it’s my birthday, can you let me relax?
Masuda isn't the first member of Game Freak to make his frustrations known over the whole Pokédex saga; the game's art director James Turner 'liked' a tweet from a fan which attacked disappointed posters on Reddit.
[source videogameschronicle.com]
Comments (105)
Slow news morning? 😃
People will always complain why Pokémon A and B didn‘t make it into the game. The only way to avoid this would be by releasing some sort of Pokémon Ultimate. Then they can just add content until a new console is released.
My birthday is usually everyone forgetting about it including a "friend" who every year I have told him it is the day after his and every year he forgets.
ANYWAYS. I don't know why his reply makes me laugh.
When you prioritise maximising profits over making a quality product then it's probably inevitable that you're going to get some negative feedback on social media. That's the trade-off they're choosing ti make so just gotta put up with it or ignore it, I suppose.
So... he only acknowledged and replied to the comment attacking him and he asked pubblically online to leave him alone for one day?
Oh Masuda Masuda, following the internet rules now you are begging to be under fire for the next 24 hours :3
I would just leave twitter. Who can be arsed dealing with all these yapping gits all the time?
Selfish diehard Pokémon fans that have tunnel vision couldn’t care less how other people feel, what their opinions are, or anything else that contradicts what they want. They’re not getting what they want so they’ll moan until they’re satisfied and are unable to enjoy what’s actually available. Just a segment of vile human nature that’s unavoidable. I just walk around these types of people and ignore them as they’ll never go away. Even if I did have a negative opinion, I wouldn’t give it unsolicited.
@Ketsumeishi Agree. The barrier of actually having the balls to walk to someone before saying it in their face doesn't exist on the internet. Hence the massive amount of toxicity that exists among 'fans' who claim ownership of something they like. Pokémon being one of the recent examples.
Acknowledging this behavior is the worst thing he could have done. He's a parent, he should know better.
I played Pokemon Sun on 3DS and kind of enjoy it, so i bought Pokemon Shield, although the gameplay are mostly identical, but i find myself didnt enjoy it as much as Pokemon Sun, May be Pokemon Shield are the first entry for switch, so i expect something new. Its not a bad game though, but i think they should at least comes out with some new story, the story in Pokemon Shield are just so flat and meaningless, may be Game Freak should just remove the main story, make it a open world pokemon hunting game instead
Be a lot smarter and better for people to just get over it and move on. He's not going to listen to toxic people and add the rest of the cut Pokemon in. Harassing him over that and supporting that harassment only shows how petty you are and need to start acting your own age. You don't get everything you want in life, it doesn't work like that.
They promised there wouldn't be more Pokémon brought back in an update. #GameFreakLied
Well next time don't lie about things.
Slow news day today?
I'm sorry, I want to feel bad for Masuda and Gamefreak but at this point I couldn't care less.
They have taken the main series Pokemon games and used them as a way to rake in the money while cutting as many corners as possible while shoe-horning in lame gimmicks that people never wanted.
They lied about reusing models and lied about these high quality animations, as someone that has been with the series since gen 3 and supported it with my hard earned cash, it disgusts me that Gamefreak finds it acceptable to treat us this way.
Would I be doing what this guy is doing on Twitter? No because at this point it's been done to death but at the same time, I'd be lying if I said they didn't deserve it.
@NCChris
Sounds like you care an unhealthy amount actually.
@SBandy Depends on what area of "care" we are referring to.
If you mean care in the sense of the state of the franchise then yes, I care a lot but if you mean I care what happens to Gamefreak, then no I do not care what they face unless we are talking actual death threats and insulting messages.
@NCChris
Well lets hope no one is pathetic enough to do that to GF employees.
Nice bias again NintendoLife, just can’t help yourselves, can you?
That being said, responding only to the one Dexit-poster was probably the most foolish thing Masuda could have done, if you don’t like a comment, don’t highlight it by responding to it, ignore it, and move on, sad fact of life: Everybody who makes anything gets criticism...
Here's an idea if you want to be left alone for the day dont go on Twitter or facebook
Upon seeing the headline, I thought "it's either Damien, or Ryan".
Next time, I'll bet actual money on it. It's about time I earn some cash!
I love watching the chaos from the sidelines. Watch the Pokemon subreddit and Twitter turn into a vicious sea of piranhas at a drop of news about this game. XD
@Primarina Did those games also used "remake assets" which weren't remade as an excuse to have less content? I doubt there's anyone wanting them remade, just a valid reason for the cuts instead of blatant lies.
Quite honestly, people who don't even bother to understand what is being complained before coming to defense are just throwing oil to the fire.
@Duffman92 that's kinda the point of the DLC.
Perhaps moreso since really only the islands/etc are DLC exclusive.
The pokemons, once added, can be used by all through trading or transfer from old games.
This specific details(that you don't even need to pay for the actual pokemons) is what make me feel there really was logistics issues trying to cram them all in the game.
Poor fellow who just got millionaire from making a popular videogame. Let the guy rest, don't bother him talking about his cash cow.
Pathetic.
I hope that many of those who have commented here do not become "Hypocrites" if this happens to another person in the videogame industry.
I stay where I stand, this whole backlash would be so much less if the communication about the games was better.
Look at FE Three Houses, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 or Breath of the Wild, all 3 got a paid expansion pass but there was no true backlash (there is always that 1 person though) like with Pokémon, because there was communication.
Lesson learned I hope Gamefreak?
"While Game Freak has stated that these monsters will still be available to those who don't purchase the expansion pass, the news has still attracted a small but vocal negative response."
A lot of people are still pissed about the games, without the pass you are not able to catch the new Pokémon, only trade them.
Sadly they butchered some parts of online compared to the 3ds games but oh well, I barely ever play Pokémon online (and I am getting the expansion pass anyhow)
But again Gamefreak, communication is key here and doing that with the expansion pass won't solve it for S&S, but doing it for a new game will.
Dexxers are the worst.
There is a way to make your voice heard in matters like this and it isn't hounding every Game Freak, Nintendo, and dev post on Twitter with nonsense memes or constant attacks. When you do that it diminishes the validity of your voice, even if you had something valid to say in the first place.
On one hand, it's the man's birthday...
On the other hand, he did lie so...
@MailOrderNinja Apparently, thier voice was heard so well that they were the only content Masuda felt like replying to.
@NCChris As a gen 3 vet, surely you remember how many Pokémon were not included with Ruby and Sapphire. You had to eventually buy or have access to at least four games, two consoles, and a link cable. Adding regions via DLC is an overdo move for the franchise, and it has the potential to dramatically extend the life of each title going forward.
Happy birthday. Ignore all these kids and people who think they are entitled to everything and have a good birthday
What's funny is how all you people are being a bunch of babies about a game.not to mention sales are fantastic.grow up noone is entitled to anything.besides what game now adays dont do season pass..expansion pass.dlc or what ever you want to call it
If that's the mortal kombat and smash is getting ready to do another pass.when that's done those are 150 dollar games no one us whining like a bunch of 2 year olds grow up and get with the times or stop gaming. Remember you ain't entitled to crap
Btw game keeps selling even with all the babies
Hate to say it, but the Pokefans are some of the most vilest creatures on the internet.
Toxic as heck.
What I don’t understand from angry fans is that they’re doing this instead of making a “new game with a twist”. Would you rather they just do the same thing they’ve done before and drop new games with barely anything new to them?? 30 bucks is cheaper than 60, and I get to use my same save file, so I don’t have to play through the story again. Works for me.
Ah, happy birthday
Internet mobs are just the worst.
I hope he got to enjoy his time off
try to be decent to one another in your online discussions, folks
Masuda was already aware of the people who are still whining over the National Dex. Those folks are still on Twitter, and will be there when Masuda so much as hovers his thumb over the Twitter app. Dude wants to relax? Then he should stay away from social media outlets for the day. That said, I hope he had a good birthday aside from those "fans" bullying him.
Am l suppose to feel sad for him?
I don't see this as news worthy.
What a beautiful community
People could complain on how underwhelming the game looks instead of just another damn 'mon they will just leave in the box...
People can get so emotional and miffed by a game/developer that it becomes worrying... so impulsive and egocentric. Hopefully the next generation will rebel against it instead of intensifying it.
By the way, happy birthday to Junichi Masuda!
So out of all the replies, he gets in that tweet. He responds to the negative one; it seems like he's playing everyone to get sympathy(including you NL). That's pretty damn pathetic Masuda. You think you're intelligent to pull this stunt, but I know better.
@MoonKnight7 30 dollar additions is reasonable for content normally locked inside a sequel/remake game, but fact of the matter is that SwSh are pretty empty and all the Pokémon should’ve been in by default (even if they’re free without the expansion).
To us, an expansion adding new areas just feels like that should’ve been the full game to begin with.
I get where you’re coming from and completely agree that I would rather buy DLC than play through a full game again just for tutors/frontier/most Pokémon to catch that I should be able to transfer regardless, but right now it still feels like Swsh is half the length and size of the gen 4 games, and the DLC sounds like it’s adding no more than the gen 4 post game areas in terms of new content. Swsh is such a bare bones game for its price tag compared to last Pokémon titles that DLC expansions should’ve came with it free.
@KitChan Show some proof next time troll. I’m glad people like you are gone from the fanbase and I hope they never add every ‘mon back just to piss you off even more.
@Araquanid That's my take on the DLC too. Paid DLC can be a great thing when handled well (Mario Kart 8, Splatoon 2 and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 for example). Develop a complete game first and then add more meaningful content later at a fair price. Don't sell us a skeleton of a game at full price only to charge more for the rest at a later date, like they have here. The base game was insultingly void of content.
@MagnaRoader in fairness it’s a loud minority that have jumped on the entitled and ignorant bandwagon. It’s the same posters and the same inane comments again and again. The vast majority bought and enjoyed the game as evidenced by it’s continued success in sales as well as review trackers that aren’t bombed.
I'm getting really tired of Nintendo Life's way of talking about it.
So this famous Damien McFerran would have more than a decade of experience in professional writing? It doesn't seem so, at least I don't think so and the quality of these articles proves it.
Masuda's answer is not even intelligent. There are accounts managed by industry personalities that are managed in a much more fun way, whether it's towards haters or fans (the example of Hideki Naganuma comes to mind, he's constantly getting requests to port).
And now you're trying to make people who love Pokémon and only want a better game, who are ambitious and who don't mess around are toxic and egocentric? Evidently they are at least a little egocentric, it's with their own money that they buy the games Gamefreak produces, it's not a charity. So for the moment, from what I see, it's rather the big fans ready to accept anything that's the most toxic, to give names to those who disagree and express their opinions. Really very disappointed with the editorial direction of the site, I don't think I'll continue to visit the site daily from now on, I'd go looking for my news somewhere else, where I wouldn't feel like a baby writing an article to piss on people he doesn't know and whose motivations and complaints he doesn't understand.
For all the complaints and criticisms of Pokemon and GameFreak, some of it valid, some of it blown far out of proportion, I still don't understand why so many people find it perfectly reasonable to have expected that every Pokemon game ever will both forever continue to add new Pokemon and forever include every single old Pokemon.
The early days of the series never claimed every game would have every monster. The idea of generations was originally that the new generation completely replaced the old generation in a new region. Then people complained that they were too stuck on the past with 1st gen in so many games, and that Tepig, Snivy and Oshawatt didn't get the love they deserved, and they should be focusing on the new ones instead. Now, suddenly, everybody expects every monster from every generation to roll forward forever, while also including new ones.
Just from a gameplay testing perspective that would be an utterly monumental undertaking where every move with every combination needs to be tested.
Maybe the best bet is to stop making new Pokemon - ever, and focus on new environments for old ones. Then fans can't complain about old ones being left behind, GF has focus, and nobody has to worry about new characters replacing their hundreds of old ones ever again.
You started the fire and now that there's heat, it ain't that easy to wash it away. He lucky he only got one complaint but he made the mistake of feeding it and not addressing the concern which is a sign that he doesn't care about the one person that still care about his product. C'mon Masuda don't let your legacy be tarnish by you becoming a liar to your own fans.
The missing pokemon is the smallest problem here
@retro_player_22 "You started the fire and now that there's heat, it ain't that easy to wash it away."
Just use a water-type move!
@MsJubilee
Oh wow, random person on internet knows better. I am sure he is crying into his pillows of cash because you know better.
Pathetic.
@LightBeam
"And now you're trying to make people who love Pokémon and only want a better game, who are ambitious and who don't mess around are toxic and egocentric"
Ambitious and who don't mess around?! What are you jabbering on about? You buy and play videogames ffs. Get over yourself.
Any wonder everyone else is laughing at you lot.
@SBandy Calm down sunshine. If he can't take criticism, he should get off twitter or! Don't reply to one negative comment to get sympathy. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that's what he's doing.
@MsJubilee
Or he is just winding everyone up. Based on the comments doing a pretty good job too.
It is sad that people in prominent positions can't have any time to be themselves and enjoy their lives in peace. Honestly when we wonder why celebrities become selfish and mean and deluded I feel the public plays as much into that as ego. How can a person be a person if no one allows them to? Let the man have a birthday in peace, pokemon, a mass produced product will be there tomorrow. (Also people use public perception to place way too much power on the shoulders of others. Folks act like Masuda-san made the game all by himself or something. Development doesn't work like that unless you are a one person team. Even then it doesn't work like that as there are usually things that must be outsourced.)
If you can't handle social media after releasing a game with many unpopular changes, then get off it.
The man needs no one's sympathy points.
That being said, its pretty bad taste to bother someone like that during a birthday post.
This is a bit silly.
On his end, maybe take a break and not go on social media for your birthday?
On the same token, some restraint and common sense needs to be shown on when and how to express your displeasure and criticism.
@Ryu_Niiyama
Of the few sensible comments on this topic, +1
He has the right to have a birthday in peace, and he also has the right to use social media to share this happy day for him.
If we do not respect his day and annoy him for something that should not be for his daily and social life, what kind of fans, rather, what kind of people are we?
ah, but if he were Sakurai, here many would have another opinion, in other words, as I mentioned, that is to be hypocritical, sorry, but it's true.
@NEStalgia I wasn't aware new generations were supposed to replace older ones. I mean, every game from Red and Blue on featured Pokemon from a previous generation and the ability to have access to those Pokemon in some way (not necessarily catchable in one game). I'm not discounting the work going into all that programming and development. But Game Freak is the one that set that precedent.
For me, the issue is just the appearance that they weren't being entirely upfront about their intentions or the situation. If was a matter of time constraints and trying to reach a deadline, then a simple "We may add more Pokemon in a later update" would have been sufficient. Which I acknowledge is happening. But then that itsn't what they then stated and then proceeds to announce paid DLC that doesn't necessarily paint a good look for the whole situation.
And if (and I don't know for fact) their intention was to purposely hold back Pokemon to then later sell as DLC (because they see a money-making opportunity), well then be honest about it. It stinks. But it would be better than the PR headache it turned out to be
There's being frustrated, but this is just freaking embarrassing. I hope that person feels rightfully ashamed.
Easy clicks! Good job, NL!
@BenAV National Dex aside--Just an opinion and not defending them or anything, but I don't think they're prioritizing maximizing profits over quality just because it's DLC. And I know you didn't like the game for various reasons, but "quality" is subjective both in art and in games and a lot of people including myself thought Sw&Sh was pretty damn good despite the "controversies". I'm not an expert and I might be way off the mark but if we were to talk about maximizing profits then I guess releasing a "third" version is a sure fire way to do that since you're basically marketing and selling more or less a different (albeit same gen) game full price. OR they could always implement mobile-esque content which apparently this DLC is not.
So can anybody tell me what's the problem with releasing an expansion 'expanding' content for less versus a 3rd version at full price in which they could always do both. Do people think the main game was incomplete? Then what about BotW? Xenoblade 2? Expansions announced even before the games were released, if not just a bit after. Splatoon 2 even? Compared to EA released games which the base games are apparently incomplete historically and pay2win.
Well I'm sorry that your fans actually care about the games Mr. Masada, and that you have nothing better to do not only on your birthday but also a public holiday other than read Twitter.
@UmbreonsPapa PR, surprisingly does not appear to be their strong suit. I suppose in a sense though they have an odd situation of being a small team from a company that used to be a magazine, that somehow ended up with the #1 gaming franchise on Earth. They're caught between expectation, reality, being surprisingly "available" for comment for the situation, while being mired behind the corporate machine of TPC/Nintendo.
But I think the fans make some of the problem out of thin air by scrutinizing every word they say to levels that aren't really reasonable (like the scrutinizing of Sakurai's Smash videos where the colors of the office chairs are expected to have meaning....) Here in January we have this whole "Game Freak lied" thing going on. During the initial interview I got the sense that that was a quick "here's a reasonably simple technical answer to move past this unimportant question" type answer. Then we got fans hacking data archives and comparing meshes to "prove" the oversimplification was a lie.
They've bumbled the situation a bit. I don't believe at all they held back the characters just to sell as DLC, and I think that's an attempt at backpeddling to appease the fans (but it's not working, the fans never will be appeased.) The fact they were so insistent for so long that they're not going to add the mon back in, and then suddenly there's a DLC that won't be ready for almost a year that adds a lot of mon back in....that pretty much confirms it wasn't planned, they're winging it here.
At the end of the day I think there was a different set of expectations between them and the older fans. I think they weren't really intending Pokemon to be a forever growing pokedex, and honestly don't want it to be. When you think of the overarching goal of the game being "catch 'em all" and working at filling out the checklist... There were 151 mon in the R/B/Y dex. That was an achievable goal, and reasonable in the game. We're up to 400 now. A much bigger, but still somewhat (almost) reasonable number to catch to complete the game's main real quest. But that involved cutting old ones while introducing new ones. And that's not enough, fans want MORE. And the expansions will include more new mon as well.
The question then becomes, it's a 24 year old series : How many is too many? If cutting it at 400 is too few, can they really add indefinitely so each game just gets bigger and bigger and bigger with more to test every time? If we add another 2 generations in 10 years do we get up to 600, 800, 1000 mon in each game? Not only does that become hard to maintain for the developers, but even as a player...how likely are we to push through an 800 mon dex just to complete it? And if the goal isn't to fill out the dex anymore, a key motivation for the play mechanics are gone.
I feel like they have ideas of how the scope of the game should play, and what a reasonable workload is for the game, but the "fans" have this expectation that every game is an accumulation of all games before it and won't let that expectation go. Worse, though, is GF isn't good at articulating that difference and tries to get quick brush offs like "oh well that's too much animation work."
Add to that, the majority audience of the game is 8 year olds without that expectation, and it's easy to see how this conflict is unsolvable.
@AlexSora89 incredible, isn't it? It's like they wanted people to duke it out in the comment section 😉
Wow I would of been mad if someone complain at somthing sheesh
@NEStalgia I like new Pokemon. But I will be honest, I wouldn't be opposed to the number of new Pokemon added reduced or slowed down. A half a dozen or so every or every other new mainline game (that isn't a remake) would be fine with me. From a narrative standpoint, it never really made sense for as many Pokemon to be added in a given generation and it never had been seen in another region.
Why not hire a PR person.
@UmbreonsPapa If I were to guess, and it's only speculation, I'd think that their idea was that the fun of discovery was a major part of the thrill of Pokemon. I.E. that finding the same Pokemon game after game would get boring, and that half of the thrill was wandering into the grass, seeing something you've never seen before, capturing it, and finding out more about it.
I imagine they designed and planned mon development around that principle, assuming that's what people would enjoy. Which also is consistent with the game's emphasis continuing to be the pokemon themselves and not the environments and world building which remains little more than a backdrop in which to catch Pokemon.
It's just a guess, but that seems to be the idea that informs the design.
@Octorok385 It was true you had to buy all subsequent generation 3 games, all Pokemon were included in Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire and you were always free to send them over to said games.
And for the record; I've never supported that practise, locking Pokemon behind a paywall that happened to be another game was underhanded and anti-consumer. In fact, if you wanted to 100% the National Dex in Pokemon R/S, you had no choice but to buy all gen 3 games.
But these days? From the time we are in now, generation 3 looks like a cakewalk compared to generation 8. While generation 3 locked Pokemon behind another game, at least it did not try to cut corners and still delivered a solid experience.
Hell, I'd even say generation 6's launch was way better as even though they made the full transition to 3D Models; They still managed to keep all the Pokemon and then add in new ones on top of that!
@tobsesta99 Its common knowledge. WTF did you think dexit whiners were crying about?
https://mynintendonews.com/2019/11/12/game-freak-says-it-currently-has-no-plans-to-add-missing-pokemon-in-pokemon-sword-shield/
I'm disappointed because I was fully on board with having a carefully curated selection each game. There's just too many Pokémon and 400 seemed like a good number for competitive variety. They've just eliminated one of the selling points of the game which convinced me to get back into Pokémon. Now I feel like I've wasted my money on another bloated game.
The fan is right, masuda is wrong. It's that simple.
@KitChan I hate to break this to you but even with the cut down roster, Pokemon Sword and Shield is very unbalanced, so much so that Smogon have straight up banned Dynamaxing in it's entirety, not even Mega Evolution, arguably 1 of the most unbalanced mechanics in the series, was treated that harshly.
Dex cut or not, the game would have been very unbalanced either way.
Oh the internet ain’t delightful
Fan toxicity by the byteful,
Whenever they reveal Pokémon
Let it Snom Let it Snom Let it Snom...
While it kinda might feel like a trick,
Pokémon fans used to be nice.
But the Pokémon community is so toxic,
Their hearts are as frozen as ice.
While the hype is terribly dying,
Look, you’ve got one of the developers crying,
If only we could save Pokémon...
Let it Snom Let it Snom Let it Snom...
Rather irresponsible of him to even reply, isn't it?
@WoolooSweater but that's the thing! These toxic "fans" don't even play the game! XD
I made a topic about the upcoming DLC on a forum I visit regularly and everyone was excited... apart from a couple of folks. One of them was extremely angry over the fact that Gamefreak are making the DLC and stated their disliking of the game, saying that "it's a good thing I haven't played Pokemon since Black/White". So, that person haven't played any of the Pokemon games for 10 years but they have enough courage and time to talk negatively about a game they haven't even played and don't seem to be interested in. Some people just like to waste their time, I guess. I think it could be due to the era we live in - the news always give us this feeling of connection with the world, with what's happening, the media outlets are of course not interested in encouraging people to not waste their time, so instead of actually exploring the hobby, people just read the news and get angry about something they don't care about. And everything around us tries to push us to read the news, to give them the clicks and to waste the time we could have spent becoming better people or enjoying something.
Another guy in that topic said something about the price but it was very clear that he didn't watch the Direct or even read the short article with full information. He didn't even know you're getting a new story, island and 200 Pokemon for free.
That's how most of these "fans" are. The actual people who wanted to play the game, they already have played it and the game is still selling extremely well, same as Let's Go.
You can see it with the birthday situation - you'll get a ton of good wishes from people but one-two angry comments will always stand out, and that's what these people want - to be noticed, to have someone to see their hate and feel like they're not alone with it. Just ignore the fools. They're the ones who missed out on all the incredible adventures that me and 3 million fans across the world have enjoyed (and that's just the physical sales, right?) I guess, someone's adventure is to make silly pictures and bathe in toxic baths on the Internet with angry teens and angry teens that act that way because of their age and other angry teens, the ones who got old but never really got to grow up.
To each their fun but I think this is very dangerous. If you'll read history, you'll know that these empty, want-nothing people are the ones who would not protest against Nazis, communists, against all the pointless deaths and wars - no matter what century we're talking about. Something needs to be done to help these poor souls, is what I'm saying.
The worst thing about Pokemon is Pokemon fans
@Shonenmon Yeah you are definitely right, and it seems to be those kind of people who always ruin online communities. I have seen it happen a lot on various gaming sites, you get these empty want-nothing types coming in and they never seem to actually engage in the hobby, like they never seem to have any actual interest in the games or anything. They just want to be aggressive towards other users and insult/attack things that other people seem to be enjoying. They themselves are of course joyless as they always have far too many hang-ups about everything. Surprise surprise whenever they get involved in general discussions it is always those people I see defending terrible things.
@clvr
Yep, that's truly unheard of.
@Kalmaro
Morton's fork.
@KitChan
How - just how is having less content than in previous games a selling point?
Not even "a harmless flaw", but a straight-up selling point?
Fans being asinine towards creators regardless of a social situation they come to interact in? Makes sense that this wouldn't have the "news" tag.
Best wishes to Masuda, including one to stay strong in the face of all this garbage.
@JayJ every fandom is a toxic byproduct of the resonance between Fiction and audiences. Alas, this whole kind of exponentially possessive addiction is one of those phenomena that shouldn't exist but always will - at least as long as Fiction itself (and other domains targeted with similar obsessions) continues to exist.
I get the disappointment for some (not me) but do they have to make every single interaction about it? The way fans complain you’d think this was a 1-star rated game. I think it’s fine to let your disappointment & frustration be know, but can you have a little bit of couth about it?
@Shonenmon Generalizing and telling who is a "true fan" of something is fine apperantly tho
@JayJ Yeah. They go arround defending games like USUM and crap on any people that bring out that Pokemon is behind in every single way.
@NCChris Can't wait until they release Landorus.
@NEStalgia Pokemon PR nowadays is just awful. If they didn't have the name Pokemon behind them they would be finished because they are behind in terms of developing and promoting games.
@Darkyoshi98 critism is just being entitled now? OK,saying sh*t to that man on his birthday is not good but please...
@AndreaF96 “Fan”
You mean the whiny basement dweller?
@tobsesta99 I don't want to sound rude but insulting people you know nothing about is not very mature nor correct, in my humble opinion. The fan didn't insult anybody.
i find it hilarious how Nintendo life is diverting the situation at hand and trying to shove the so-called bad people out there on the whole movement bring national dex back, i-i just wanna know where is the proof of a person bothering him at all on his birthday?? only shows him complaining.
ooh wait i even checked out the entire mess of a tweet, sadly the person who pointed this out on a topic about his birthday that includes POKEMON in it. forced locked his account because people we're on his butt for saying one thing -which is critical. and i find it hilarious how people don't even check it out rather just believe what this article states which is clearly shilling for masuda >_>..lol.
anyway, people, we're giving him criticism on his game, no matter what event it is -it's gonna happen, doesn't matter at that point, because he did in fact screw over people, of course, people will be upset naturally at him. no -nobody was harassing him either. no proof of that but people pointing out how awful the game was.
also, i found another person tweet that was before this entire thing blew up, and the so-called "harasser" was actually asking a simple question....wow...what the hell.
I'm confused...If he just wanted to relax on his birthday, why did he spend literally any of his time replying to the one negative comment (which any moderately famous person should know would turn a bunch of people against the "negative" commenter) instead of enjoying the plethora of comments wishing him happy birthday?
Oh I guess so a publisher can paint the picture that this rich man who makes a popular product is being practically harassed to death by gamers with opinions (gasp)?😂. People have overracted, but there's plenty of valid criticism too, probably time to ignore it all if he's really that bothered.
The investors want more money plain and simple, Nintendo does not control Pokemon anymore so they cannot stop them from doing stuff like splitting the Pokemon game up and releasing DLC.
Why not stay away from the internet on his birthday then? :/ Anyways, happy birthday Mr. Masuda, even though you lied to us.
@Jamaal121 you are a better journalist than the ones here at nintendolife appartently. And I'm not being sarcastic.
@SakuraHaruka sakurai didn't exclude any character. He made an effort to include every character in ultimate.
@AndreaF96
Do not compare adding more than 40 characters in a fighting game (yes, it have its challenge and more to add characters from other companies) to add and try to balance more than 1000 creatures in a turn-based battle game that has difficult strategy despite How easy it looks.
In addition, the point is not the effort, the point is that each of them has their private and public life and must be respected, leaving aside their work as programmers, designers and producers, they have a life of society, family, then, to that some people angry at a ... GAME, a simple game, get to annoy them and still criticize them, it's ridiculous; However, under the point of his "effort" for the games, one is forgiven and defended with "cape and sword" and the other is attacked with everything and without respect, and both have done good things like others have not, that It is called Hypocrecia and that should not fit for a fan, do you understand?
@SakuraHaruka
1) I am sure that it wouldn't have been more difficult to add all pokemon to Sw/Sh than every smash character considering the amount of money a Pokemon game surely makes.
2) As others have pointed out he was not harassed. It's just that one fan dared criticize his choices on twitter. He could have easily ignored the fan but he decided to reply so that a swarm of "loyal" fans would have thrown crap at the angry fan. He used his influence to silence criticism.
3) I don't play smash but it is beyond any reasonable doubt that sakurai and Nintendo made an effort to create the "ultimate" Smash. It is beyond any reasonable doubt that Game Freak did not make the same effort to create the "ultimate" Pokémon game. They removed half of the Pokémon and charged you more. Then they went on adding some of the pokemon that they removed as paid dlc. This is EA level of c**p in my opinion.
@AndreaF96
1) I wonder if you know what the matter of developing and programming to say such comments is, because money does not always influence the complexity of the "gameplay", there are such simple and cheap games and are more complex than an AAA game.
2) Ok, he wasn't bothered according to you, And he knowing that people would act like this, come on, as if he wasn't aware of what the fanbase of "his" games is like and how they would react, but then, it's still his moment of a happy day as his birthday, someone tell him that he are doing his job wrong is very good for many, right ?; and the reason that I mention Sakurai is vecause, at this moment as he add another Fire Emblem character, many would be complaining in his account, ah, but as he did a "great" job, he should not be disturbed, even on his birthday, just because he add another Fire Emblem character and many are not happy about that decision, right? That is not Hypocrecia?; ""Doesn't he have the right to say, can you stop bothering me?""
3) I can not say how they developed these Pokemon games, I can not deny that they look rushed, most likely to have them on these dates, but I can not say that they are wrong, because they contain things that this franchise needed as the Poke Camp, a great step to interact with Pokémon that are not just battles, or what, is that worth nothing?
and now suppose, they removed "half" of the Pokedex because in reality, more than 1000 Pokemon to program is not easy, to balance the game, yes, there was still imbalance, but if they had been 1000, you think it would be easy and in few time?; Now, according to several people, this movement was to sell that other half by the announcement of the DLC, however they can not think too, it will not be that he ""finally paid attention to them"" and will be adding the Pokemon little by little and free, because they did not mention that they would not cost, but also, they did not mention that they would not be available for free, who mentioned that those Pokemon would not be available in the game to be caught for free?, that I know there is no mention whatsoever, there is no need to walk assuming things for having the anger in the face; but, well...
Now, believe me, it also bothers me that they removed Pokemon, My favorite Pokemon in not in this generation at the moment, but then, why I am "unleashing my fury" for each Pokemon note and news?, it has already happened and is all.; and it is not the first time that a favorite franchise of mine has been turned to me in something that I do not like and it hurt me, BUT, but, in the end I learned that, why bother me?, as if this franchise I speak and Pokemon were the only games in the world and I talk about those games that being my favorite on the planet, why bother me and annoy others?, it has no case, but well...
It is easy for us to demand things and treat them as garbage to developers when they do things wrong, but we do not see how their work is, but well ...
Ok, I do not want to discuss this anymore, because as I mentioned, here, many are upset and will not understand reasons, they will just continue to bother him, them and us who enjoy the games.
@SakuraHaruka I am a programmer. I am sorry and I don't want to sound rude but your English makes it really hard for me to understand many sentences. Maybe it's beacause I am not a native english speaker.
@NCChris I have a bit of a problem with Smogon's response to Dynamaxing. The community claims it's "unbalanced" because it makes too many Pokemon viable. It has nothing to do with balance, it has to do with making the meta becoming unpredictable. The emphasis has shifted away from strategy and gimmicks and more to in the moment plays, and Smogon hates that. How can there be a tier of elite Pokemon (and players) if a single Dynamax can shift an entire battle? It's a different gen with different rules, and pretending that dynamaxing doesn't exist is a sad attempt at prolonging the old game. And in the face of all this we still have fully playable Gen 6 and 7 titles, so why people complain I will never know.
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