'EA Sports: it’s in the game'. Ah, we all remember that slogan from the old days, although the news over the weekend that FIFA 20 on Switch will be a ‘Legacy’ rehash makes you realise that while EA’s head might be ‘in the game’, its heart certainly isn’t. We won't get the new Volta mode on Switch or any of the updated ball physics; instead we get last year’s iteration with updated kits and team rosters, and that version was already a stripped-back take on the 'real' game. Balls, indeed.
Not only that, but Switch owners get their noses rubbed in the disparity by being shown adverts for features that aren’t even in their version on the console’s news channel. Twice. It’s a depressing turn of events for Switch-owning football fans and Nintendo gamers at large who have had to put up with limited ports of this ‘beautiful’ game for some time now.
I wouldn't call myself an avid football fan. I can’t be bothered with the daily ins-and-outs of club football, but I keep abreast of big games and tournaments. I went to Russia for the last World Cup, but the last FIFA game I put any real time into was actually the first one, FIFA International Soccer (the Mega Drive one with David Platt on the cover).
I started out before that with World Cup Italia ’90 on the Mega Drive (great music, plus it had Lineker with his name spelt correctly), but as far as I’m concerned the genre peaked with ISS 64 (or possibly ISS 98, although I never actually played that one – it had a ref on the pitch, though!) Hands down, the best football game on Switch at present is Rocket League, and whether that says more about me than the state of the genre on Nintendo platforms is up for debate. While prepping for my trip to Russia last year I almost bought FIFA 18 to get in the mood on the flight, but I was put off by the fact it was inferior to the ‘proper’ version on PS4 and Xbox One, so I stuck to Rocket League.
FIFA is the cash cow licence; EA, the cold, calculating company milking it for all it’s worth
On paper, EA’s decision to field the B team makes some sense, as did the ‘Legacy’ versions that got released on Wii. In its launch week just 1% of FIFA 19’s physical sales in the UK were for the Switch version (this didn’t account for digital sales, but we don’t imagine them being much better). On the face of it, this indicates that the audience simply doesn’t exist on Switch to warrant putting effort into anything other than a ‘legacy’ (read: old) release.
The problem, though, is the message that this sends to gamers, which plays into the image they already have of Electronic Arts as a boardroom of bean counters. It shows a total lack of interest in video games, a lack of investment in the medium and its fans beyond the purely financial. FIFA is the cash cow licence; EA, the cold, calculating company milking it for all it’s worth.
Despite how prudent a decision it may be to send FIFA 19 back onto the pitch after a spritz from the magic spray, it reflects poorly on the company and its ambitions. We’re sure there are passionate creators in the ranks of its employees, but perhaps more than any of the other massive publishers, EA is the most faceless and ‘corporate’ of them. From a fan's perspective, it often appears to be the least interested in actual video games. The loot box fiasco provides more insight; after acquiring the requisite mass market licences, maximum profit is extracted from them with seemingly little thought for the players’ experience or any factors beyond the bottom line.
Of course, the bottom line is crucial for any business. Companies are obliged to make money for their shareholders, but whereas you’ll see smaller projects getting funded elsewhere, or fan favourites being given a second chance, EA invariably pulls the plug on anything that isn’t adding zeroes to its books. Yes, we might bemoan how Nintendo hasn’t made an F-Zero for sixteen years, but it did finance Bayonetta 2, for example. The (then) Wii U exclusive was never going to be a system seller, but it was an investment in the future, in the makers of the franchise and its fans. The upcoming Bayonetta 3 is likely to perform much better by virtue of being on Switch (assuming the game’s any good) and the fact that it exists at all is down to Nintendo.
The argument that there isn’t an audience on Switch feels absurd to me – it's football; the beautiful game, the most popular sport on the planet
On paper, Bayonetta 2 wasn’t the right short-term decision – there’s no way EA would have touched it – but it was an investment of the kind EA doesn’t appear to understand. ‘Goodwill’ is not a quantifiable return, and uncountable benefits have no place on spreadsheets. Consequently, EA is viewed as a passionless licence hoarder pumping out product for profit only and repeatedly getting voted the Worst Company in America.
Whether it truly earns that dubious honour is debatable, but it’s decisions like putting out last year’s FIFA on Switch that betray a total lack of interest in developing or nurturing the brand; it says that EA couldn’t care less about building a community. The licence sells the game and only the barest minimum of effort is required.
The argument that the power disparity between Switch and other consoles prevents the ‘real’ game coming to the hybrid console holds some water, but we must also remember that EA is huge. We're not talking about some mom ‘n’ pop indie dev that simply doesn't have the resources to optimise and port the Frostbite engine. EA's one of the biggest companies in the business; it's got the personnel and the budget, but not the inclination. And we're not talking about Crysis or Cyberpunk 2077 here! Switch can handle a game of football, especially if properly optimised and considered from the start.
Ultimately, it comes down to a chicken and an egg. The argument that there isn’t an audience on Switch feels absurd to me – it's football; the beautiful game, the most popular sport on the planet! Of course there’s an audience – ‘hardcore’, casual, young, old – but they're not being catered to with the reconstituted pap EA keeps serving up. I wanted to buy FIFA but decided not to because it simply wasn’t good enough. I'll have much more fun burning around the pitch chasing an oversized ball in Ecto-1, thank-you-very-much.
EA is still ‘in the game’, but it's a numbers game. Community, culture and even video games feel like a very distant second
However, poor sales reinforce the idea that Switch gamers don’t like football or the demographic’s too young or whatever rubbish is written on the summary reports being read by the suits in the boardroom, and the cycle begins again, all because EA can’t see past the next 12 months. We're sure that Electronic Arts is not and never has been the 'worst company in America', but that branding stems from the company's actions in the eyes of fans. There are instances of EA taking a gamble; Mirror's Edge Catalyst springs to mind as an example, but if there is a supportive, artistically-motivated and passionate side to the company - one that's interested in this brilliant interactive medium beyond the profits it can bring - somebody's doing a poor job of showing it.
When the best football game on the platform is Rocket League, it's incredibly disappointing that EA won't up its game and invest in the platform and its audience. I want to buy a great FIFA but it’s likely there’ll never be one on Switch – a sorry state of affairs for a platform embraced by so many gamers across the spectrum. EA is still ‘in the game’, but it's a numbers game. Community, culture and even video games feel like a very distant second.
Are you happy with the FIFAs that are turning up on Switch? Do you think a full-fat version could do well given the appropriate attention and support? Share your thoughts below.
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The only worthy thing to say about EA is that they should be boycotted across the industry.
Until fans choose not support them, they will continue to do what they are doing, which is not caring AT ALL. No passion for development, no love for games, just money.
Don't support it!
DO NOT BUY EA!
You get out what you put in. If you put in a half hearted effort like EA did then what does it expect to get out of it. Honestly I truly think they don’t want to work with Nintendo at this point as they have had plenty of games that could have been brought over and would have done very very well yet they choose not to. Burnout paradise for example. Considering the dearth of good racers on the switch this would have sold very very well and being based on an old title would have been an easy conversion yet they choose not to. Sad
Honestly at this point, EA should go get intimate with headwear.
What I don't get about EA is that if they are so money grubbing you would think they would go back to the gamecube era of putting their franchises on anything including a potato. Did they really make frostbite that non scaleable? If so the next twins are going to suck for them as they will have to retool the engine again.
People will buy the game if it has parity.
At this point I'm out though. I'll get fifa 19 on switch and nhl 19 on xbone and that will do for the next 4-5 years.
Man, I hate this company. Everything they touch nowadays seems to turn into rubbish. Or to them, money.
But this isn't even a money thing- it's them not caring. I remember when their games were well-crafted, with care. No more!
EA have stripped themselves of numerous employees and that’s because they have so many franchises which guarantee them income they no longer care about making quality games. FIFA 19 was pretty poor on every system last year and they are just a lazy developer with zero interest in Nintendo. As long as they get their cream, they are a fat cat that will always put quality well below quantity
Forgive me ! 😫
I cannot resist for The Sims 4 PS4 & its Expansion Packs + DLC stuffs.
Once sega remaster virtua striker for the switch I'll habe the only football game I ever need!
@Anti-Matter nothing wrong with that. It’s ok to support the good games
I recall EA said Frostbite wouldn't work on Switch, and then a developer said they hadn't even tried.
Then again after hearing about how Frostbite was made by DICE to do ONE THING and it got spread out to do more than that with multiple studios that it wasn't designed to do, perhaps it really wont work.
Point is, no one seems interested to even try. More shocking, is new engines like IdTech 7 are designed FOR Switch, so evidently someone in some companies knows whats up.
But then look at Activision. They didn't know or even consider Crash until ONE GUY did it himself.
Wii U only got Fifa 13, no legacy editions.
@Anti-Matter You are forgiven. While Maxis isn’t what it once was, it’s IP are still enjoyable. I’m tempted myself of getting this. Heard it was just like the pc version, or very close. Where past console releases were nothing like the pc versions
I’ve picked up both 18 and 19 on Switch and to be honest 18 played better than 19. Lack of features is a big issue. Will I pick up 20? Probably not unless it goes on a massive sale a month or two later cause I’m done with EA
Like the article , but from what I remembered ever version we got of fifa on the switch just had the basics on it. You guys even said so for both 18 and 19 it was the legacy version. So why would you pay 60 euros for an inferior product then what you get on the ps4 and xbox one.
That was in my opinion the biggest reason behind the lack of sales as almost everyone knew about this as well.
Repeat after me... "EA doesn't care about the switch"! This has been painfully obvious since the beginning and I'm more surprised that people are still upset by this than EA 's lack of releases. They aren't going to out of no where start releasing every game on Switch, just move on imo. I still enjoy a number of their games and buy 2 or 3 from them every year, but honestly done expect them to be on switch at all at this point.
On the plus side I have just saved 50 notes.
Are you happy with the FIFAs that are turning up on Switch?
I have to disagree with a point in this article. EA is the undisputable worst company in America for me. And the only competition EA has are the telecommunication companies.
I agree with the take. I know people would buy FIFA on Switch if it had the same features as the other consoles, but as it stands, it's a very bad move - you're paying the same for an old game, and that's been since FIFA 18. People like FUT (sadly).
Probably the market isn't there right now - but it isn't there because EA has done absolutely nothing in recent years to cultivate such an audience in the Switch, while banking on casual gamers that will get the market leader console and focusing their cash cow on them.
Unless they actually bother investing something on Switch, the chicken and egg point Gavin makes will continue to be true - and sadly, unless something implodes badly at EA they simply won't try another approach.
But why do they bother?
Surely it's easier to just drop support. They have some old IPs id kill for but at this stage i would much rather watch EA crash and burn as a company.
Yes i do not like them.
Yes i actively boycott them
Yes i want to see them eventually go out of business.
EA are on a long steady road to foreclosure as their fanbase is an ever dwindling one. Every year they burn more gamers than they please... continue down that steady path and they will eventually hit the bottom.... exactly where they belong... right at the bottom.
I'm really done with EA at this point. I bought fifa every year but now I'm completely done with them. I will never buy another EA game again. And If I really want to play fifa or star wars jedi fallen order, I will buy it used. They won't get a single dollar from me until they stop ruining great games / studios. The switch is the perfect platform for fifa and the sims. And last years fifa wasn't great but it was an improvement. If they improved a little again this year I would have been fine with buying fifa 2020 but they just don't care anymore. If EA doesn't care about the gamers anymore, I will stop caring about them.
Oh, EA, I used to expect a lot (really a lot) from some of their games and franchises (as I mentioned before): Need For Speed, Sim City, My Sims - The Sims and Burnout; I always hoped to see what new news came for those games; however, as we all know, things changed so drastically horrible that, now, expecting something from those games is like a dream with a nightmare ...
-Many of those games drastically changed the original gameplay
-Many focused on being Free to play, having Microtransaciones excessively, and being all online
-Some stopped developing new games
-Some of its main and original developers now Rest in Peace (Original EA Canada-Distintive Software Inc, Criterion Games, Maxis, Visceral Games-EA Redwood)
Oh well, But, I still hope if there is any light in those games in some future.
I would say that the folks in EA have their collective heads right up their hineys, but in between this and the numerous controversies they made over the years, I have to wonder if this is a routine brainstorming idea for them. Also, does anyone remember or miss the times when they bothered with making games like Boom Blox?
As some wise people say...
Fool me once shame on you
Fool me twice shame on me.
I bought 18 and it was OK. Better than 13 on the Wii U in terms of far fewer bugs. I skipped 19 (don't need to buy it every year) but I'd intended to buy 20. Guess I'll skip.
I thought I read somewhere a long time ago that there was an obligation to put FIFA on all major current platforms. I suppose if that is true they have to do the absolute minimum to retain the contract. And this is the absolute minimum!
NFS on the Wii U was great. That would be a great Switch game. I consider that more supporting Criterion than EA.
can't help feeling there is a simple solution here : Launch prices of $20 for FIFA 20 on Switch or $10 if you own a previous version of FIFA on Switch ( maybe digital only if that's needed to validate ownership) .
Keeps the good will. Same level of effort , and surely they make money this way.
TLDR;
Gavin put more effort into this article than EA put into FIFA 20 on Switch.
Just created an account to say that this was a great read. Sensible points made well highlighting an approach that’s harmful in the long term.
I don’t even like football!
Sims 4 sounds like the biggest no brainer to bring to the switch. And they to lazy to do that. Just keep making lazy ports of the same soccer game. When Bethesda at this point has better support for the system then them something is very wrong. Heck Microsoft has better support for the system. 5 years ago saying the last two sentences would not make any sense.
The only games I bought for them was the sims 4 for PlayStation last month and mass effect a few months earlier. And the sims would be a much better fit on switch. The game is so hard to use without a mouse or a touch screen. If they would have announced the game I would have got it on switch. But I suppose higher graphics, micro transactions, and some kind of online feature is the only thing they do nowadays.
In no way, shape or form is Rocket League football. There are no feet for a start...
I grabbed FIFA18 when it was super-cheap, and I love it. And in the future I’ll buy FIFA2022 when it goes on sale. I support the game, as I like it - the publisher is immaterial in my choice. And if I was a massive FIFA fan I’d buy a PS4.
To get riled by a publisher’s actions (or inaction) seems like wasted energy. Be disappointed, and move on.
@Razer Only, that isn't remotely true.
Last month, EA announced their digital revenues were up 5% YOY to $3.722b. Heck, they got 35% more players to play THE SIMS 4 in FY19 compared to the previous year, and that game was released in 2014. 45 million players played FIFA last year. They also launched Apex Legends this year, which made them $150m+ from a development cost of what seems to be about a tenner. Their share price recovered after the Battlefront II crash to over $100 in February and remains at $97 or so.
So, I ask you, in what world is your dream scenario of 9,000 people being put out of work because of the actions and decisions of 10 or 12 of them a reality, please?
No idea who is an "EA FIFA Fan" the last 10 years and also ONLY has a Nintendo console 🙄
FIFA on a "custom engine" on Switch was awful. And did not make enough money worth fixing it or porting FrostBite. End of story.
"you’ll see smaller projects getting funded elsewhere"
huh?... You mean like Sea Of Solitude, Lost in Random, RustHeart and funding Hazelight next game?
Blame Nintendo for the underpowered hardware and the Nintendo fans for their lack of interest. They never supported games like FIFA.
The target audience of FIFA is on the other consoles, it would make zero sense to put a lot of effort into the Switch version because nobody will buy it anyway.
I wish they would come out with Madden, even if it is scaled back. Not holding my breath....
@SBandy I thought it got 14, but you’re absolutely right - I’ve edited the article. Cheers
I have to admit, as somebody who rarely ever buys soccer games, I would most definitely love to buy a FIFA on Switch if it was handled properly. I might even buy it full-price if handled REAL properly. But EA keeps treating the Switch like it's just some second-rang toy, and so as they keep doing that, I won't be buying any EA game.
It's whatever though. I'll be perfectly fine without FIFA. I very much prefer Mario Strikers as a soccer game anyway. ...where's that franchise at, Nintendo?
I bought the 2 previous Switch versions but will skip the next ones if this is there plan. Hopefully the full fat version comes to Stadia and I'll get my fix there.
@cyrus_zuo I agree I will never purchase another one of their games. I also agree this is the problem as there is no unity among gamers. It’s F U got mine sucks for switch owners. Even worse Nintendo won’t stand up for its gamers. They aren’t going to say anything about this and hold EA accountable. So this will continue to happen.
EA has had a strained relationship with Nintendo going back to the NES days. Heck, I remember games like Mutant League, Road Rage and General Chaos that never made it over to the Super Nintendo.
A game like Madden would sell like hot cakes on the Switch. They leave money on the table by ignoring the console.
I hope when contract renewal time approaches both the NFL and Star Wars look elsewhere.
1% of all sales and here we are expecting more. Truthfully I really think sports games only need one release per generation and roster updates after that. But that's never going to happen. It's just a guess but I assume it's a small minority that buy these games at full price and the majority simply wait till it hits bargain prices at the end of the season. We can all complain but if we're buying it on super discount we may still be keeping them in business.
Nintendo’s still not greasing their palms which I’m sure is what they’d like. They know they’d have to invest, build the brand up, but I’m sure they tell themselves that Nintendo’s core, adopting audience isn’t worth the investment because a good portion probably have another home system where EA already put’s it’s premium product. They also probably figure that the other part of the installed base is there for the portable factor, and portable, like mobile, never means premium. But they won’t test any other theory, especially if they’re only getting standard publisher treatment from Nintendo
Madden & NFS were a buy every year for me. Then the Wii came out & only got 3 Maddens during its life. The joke motion controls ruined it for me. '18 was ok on Wii U. NFS were great(GCN)-good(Wii) but didn't get into the GCN remakes on Wii U.
Actually liked MY Sims Agents and did/still want a sequel that'll never happen(that air battle thing was so wrong). Also a sequel to Def Jam Fight for NY is still a dream if they could make something that great again.
"FIFA is the cash cow licence; EA, the cold, calculating company milking it for all it’s worth"
I suspect people on the other side of Minsk just heard my gasp here. Most of the loudmouthed fan dramas stem from the number of people who fail or refuse to account for this fact.
Me, I have few stakes in video game football (and for the occasions when I might feel an urge, there's the FIFA 14 card I inherited from my Vita's previous owner), but I'm into NFS series that has had rather limited presence on Ninty platforms in the recent years either. Does that inconvenience me at times? Yes. Does this inconvenience make EA my sworn enemy? No. Maybe my inner fan's at best, but my inner fan has a long booked cauldron in the same hell as every other fan inside every other person out there. EA is a business. They decide what to do with their IPs, I decide whether what they do puts me in the market for their games and services or not. End of story. "Heart in the games?" I'm afraid fandoms - the very last places where you can expect anyone to have their heart in a game as a piece of interactive Fiction and/or entertainment - simply aren't in a position to discuss the colour of EA's kettles here. And like I often remind, the odds always say that ANY of us here would be doing the same things EA does if we were to take their place. Deny it as you may.
Scientific fact: Unimprovable football perfection was already achieved by Sensible Soccer in 1992.
@Lord I would like to have Sega Worldwide Soccer, or Actua Soccer 2...
"On paper, EA’s decision to field the B team makes some sense, as did the ‘Legacy’ versions that got released on Wii. In its launch week just 1% of FIFA 19’s physical sales in the UK were for the Switch version (this didn’t account for digital sales, but we don’t imagine them being much better). On the face of it, this indicates that the audience simply doesn’t exist on Switch to warrant putting effort into anything other than a ‘legacy’ (read: old) release."
The U.K. is never a good sample of sale performances on Nintendo consoles, considering that it's Nintendo's weakest region. In contrast, the head of Nintendo's French division was pleased with FIFA's sales. And in Japan FIFA 18 on Switch is believed to have outsold the PS4 version!
EA has no one to blame but themselves. They are not doing their best.
@SuperKMx let me ask you something, do you actually believe numbers posted by EA to keep investors happy are not doctored to show things better than they are?
Let me ask you something else... do you know the difference between company Growth and Profit? Or do you think their the same thing?
https://csimarket.com/stocks/single_growth_rates.php?code=EA&rev
Why do you think every quarter EA has reported slow growth since 2016?
A company's profit is how much they put in compared to how much they get back, its easy to post profits if you're laying off staff for example, as overheads are low. Lets just say that EA didn't spend a lot during those years but they made money because fools buy reskined games for top dollar.
But how long do you think profits last if you are not growing?
Great to say that i made 500 in profit after only spending 100... but it wouldn't be as good making 800 in profit by spending 500 in revenue... i will only tell you my profits though and as an investor you would be happy with that... you dont know that i spent more this time to make my profits.
This is how companies doctor stats.
When You see profits you see half the story. You need to look.at growth too.
EA isn't growing and its been contracting most quarters for almost 3 years.
@Ryu_Niiyama The problem with EAs engine scalability is after they spent decades mucking around with dead-end engines that go nowhere, Square-Enix style (ohai Crystal Tools!) , they got desperate and bought Dice mostly for Frostbite. problem is they bought a canned engine that was really designed to play one game on PC. And that's what they bet the bank on.
I won’t buy any EA games this year. Not supporting this company with my money. Likely rent Fallen Order but that’s as far as i’ll go. Tons of fantastic games/studios out there. Won’t miss ‘em at all.
I call bs regarding the "it's Nintendo's fault for making weaker hardware" claims. EA didnt have a problem with the PS2 or Wii, which were weaker than their respective competition. Furthermore, let's stop acting like the power gap is HUGE. Considering it's mobile hardware, the Switch is actually powerful.
So yeah, this is totally EA's fault.EA's problems go beyond this too. The company that used to develop for weaker hardware also made great games like the Dead Space trilogy, ME trilogy and Battlefield Bad Company. Now we get ME Andromeda, Battlefront and Anthem.
@Anti-Matter Honestly man, you're consistently my favourite part of the nintendolife comment section
EA haven't had a penny from me since Mass Effect 3 on ps3.I could see from then where they were heading They've been irrelevant from that day. I just wish more people would think the same so that they just f#$% off for good
Too much words wasted on EA in this article. The only thing they are good at are destroying reputable studios and exploiting people.
I feel bad for people who like sport games and therefore can mostly only takes EA's offering.
The current FIFAs on the Switch are still very good ports though. Even if they are just souped up past ten versions. They still play a great game of football.
Nintendo should buy EA.
@dartmonkey dont know where to post this but the new game is confirmed for switch
https://gods-and-monsters.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/
@NEStalgia LOL that is fair. But not sustainable. However I guess Fifa sales keep them afloat...
@Ryu_Niiyama FIFA and SW. Though most of that probably goes to Disney.
For a good time read the reviews on the MS store for NHL19, this months GwG freebie. It's hilarious. The reviews are more entertaining than the game
@marck13 isn't that like buying your own coffin at 3000% markup?
@ThatDaveGuy The Captain gives you his hi!
One thing about EA... they are reliably unreliable
The last two EA Games I purchased were Theme Park DS and Orcs & Elves so I am not missing them by any stretch.
Apart from Dead Space (Extraction was great), I never missed them on a Nintendo platform since the Wii days.
@hayes1516 why do you say 18 plays better than 19? having now heard that fifa 20 is going to be legacy i was thinking to finally pick up 19 when next on sale and be done with it.
Of course the sales were bad it was half a game for the same price as the full game(PS4/One).
EA has made it abundantly clear over the years that they couldn't give a damn about goodwill.
I was the biggest Sims fan around. I purchased every expansion and every iteration for every console that I owned.
Halfway through the lifespan of The Sims 2, EA ushered in a storm of greed from which the franchise had never recovered. I still love and play the old games. Hell, I sought a disc copy of Windows 7 after it had been discontinued so I could continue to play The Sims 2 and the Stories games on my Macbook, on which they worked perfectly.
I made the stupid mistake of buying The Sims 3 and a bunch of expansions a few years ago, and upon booting up the game, to be greeted with greyed out icons for individual DLC items was so demoralising that I quit and never returned (the expansion packs are all still in their shrink wrap).
I've briefly played The Sims 4 when it was made available as a free download the other week (no doubt to get people hooked and spend hundreds on expansions), but it has well and truly lost its magic, not helped by the demented agendas that they are pushing as well.
I have supported FIFA 18 and 19 on Switch on day one, even buying the Champions Edition of 19, which is perhaps the first and only time it has been made available on a Nintendo console. Now, we aren't even getting a new version of the game at all. I'll still buy FIFA 20 for the updated roster, but I'll wait for it to become bargain bin fodder.
EA releases an inferior product on Switch/Nintendo, when that product sells poorly they blame the lack of consumer interest. See, it isn't EA's fault they released an inferior product, it's YOUR FAULT for not buying it.
EA is so full of themselves that they don't deserve a cent. But they get away with this crap because they somehow have all these exclusivity contracts. You don't have to make a good FIFA game, or NFL or Star Wars or whatever if you are the only one legally allowed to make it!
The game doesn't have to be good, just "good enough". And it's real easy to make a profit with exclusivity deals like they have. After all, they have no real competition!
we gamers should rise up against ea just like on ready player one and take them down.
ISS 98 was better than ISS 64, and ISS 2000 even better than ISS 98! I bought FIFA on Switch once it was $20, and because it had the Russia World Cup DLC. Previously I've only ever bought World Cup editions of FIFA, as international sides was my only interest. Personally, gamers that love FIFA or sports games in general know PS or XB is where they are best served. It's so much a tradition now that it will be difficult to reverse even if EA bring out a complete version on Switch. The other reason I don't buy FIFA other than World Cup editions is the games are rubbish, especially the AI. Unless you have "all out attack" active, they have no idea how to attack. Even worse is the clunky randomness in the game, notably players take an age to control a ball before shooting, and often point blank shots on open goals go into the stands. This is endemic to the series and it's only because of the authentic teams that people have tolerated it, and now accepted it, as part of the game.
"You get ALL-PLAY and YOU get ALL-PLAY! ALL-PLAY 4 EVERY1!! "
EA has been terrible on Nintendo consoles ever since the stupid All-Play versions of Madden on Wii. I saw right through there laziness towards Nintendo consoles right then.
EA = WORST gaming company on Earth.
I just want third-parties to optimize their Switch ports/titles. If you're going to invest in a Switch release, then do it right! Is it so impossible to optimize your games properly?
At least you European football fans are actually getting FIFA releases on the Switch. When's the last time EA released a Madden game on Nintendo hardware for us American football fans?
@HumanDog Nintendo fans certainly did support EA sports games back on the GameCube and Wii. Bck then, they knew how to properly optimize ports for the relatively underpowered Wii. Then of course, the Wii U was a failure regardless of whatever EA could've done. However, now that we've got the Switch, EA still no longer puts any effort into releasing quality titles on it, so of course people don't buy them, then EA doesn't see any need to put enough money into their next releases, etc. It's a Catch-22, but it's one that was EA's fault to begin with, and it's one that only they can solve if only they were willing to accept some short term losses.
I wish they would port over a golf game, those tiger wood 04-06 golf days we're an EA highlight for me!
Easy, Nintendo should just buy up the license for sensible soccer (from Codemasters), get jon hare involved and stoo campbell and make/finance Sensible Soccer 20.. ideal portable game...
@Electric-Dreams come to our sensible soccer world cup in july ni fulda, see sensiblesoccer.de
@romanista Absolutely. A Nintendo take on the world's most popular sport with the emphasis on the fun.
@BulbasaurusRex no they didn't. Fifa 06 on the PS2 outsold the GC version about 40 times.
It's not even close. The usual Nintendo fanboys who always whine about sports games never buy them anyway. All my co-workers play FIFA. None of them was ever like: let's play fifa and then pulled out a Switch. Nobody was playing FIFA on the Wii or Gamecube. It was always Playstation and Xbox
@SuperKMx those 9000 people will be fine,
Are you actually okay with the entire gaming industry having to suffer because of the unsavory practices implemented by EA and other companies like them because a few thousand employees might lose their jobs?
You know that those 9000 people will find new jobs quite easily or are you under the impression that EA and other gaming developers hire borderline pensioners to make their games?
In a year or less those 9000 will have moved on and a cancer will be cut out of the gaming industry for good. That's certainly worth the inconvenience to those 9000.
@HumanDog That's just because the PS2 was so popular in general and had online play while the GameCube didn't. The GameCube versions still sold pretty well (in straight numbers) despite those disadvantages. Meanwhile, Wii vs. PS3 sales were a lot closer.
There are also other EA sports franchises that sold well on the GameCube and Wii like Madden. I personally got a Madden game each on both the GameCube and Wii.
They don't pull out a Switch to play FIFA, because EA has to yet to make a good one on the Switch. If a good one did exist, then yes I bet some of your co-workers would pull out a Switch to play it. That's kind of the whole point of the article!
Whatever with EA.
Winning Eleven / International Superstar Soccer should seize this opportunity. Become THE soccer saga for Nintendo gamers.
@SuperKMx you really sound like a sheep right now. You should kow tow a bit more, not sure if EA can see you yet, a bit more and maybe you'll get a pat on the head.
Let me go play my loot box games on the Nintendo switch... because yeah Nintendo does loot boxes don't ya know and we shouldn't complain, just take that nice corporate Johnson right up the jaxy just like we should eh?
Lol good luck with that mate, how much do you make at EA?
@SuperKMx you and others like you give EA 100% justification to be the bottom feeders they are.
Well done.
@SuperKMx did i actually personally attack you or are you being funny?
In what way is this a personal attack... infact show me one part where i actually personally attacked you?
Or maybe me saying you sound like sheep gets you all teary eyed?
Lol
@SuperKMx dude you clearly work for EA.
And if you can actually find a part where i actually called you anything personally then i will remove it.
Don't even say "you said i sounded like sheep" because i will actually call you a snowflake if you do.
But really you think i personally attacked you because you genuinely don't know how to feel about me laughing at your blind support of EA...
So many salty Nintendo fans in the comments.
Gonna love playing this on my One X though.
@BulbasaurusRex the PS2 did not sell 40 times more than the GC. Even the OG Xbox version outsold the GC version 6 to 1.
Do some research. If a better Switch version would sell well, they would make one because EA loves money. It's just not worth it. It will never come close to the PS4 version, so all FIFA players will stick to the PS4. This is a huge community, you can't just move them to another platform that is technically inferior
@HumanDog Regardless of the relative numbers, the raw numbers on the GameCube were still there to make a profit. You're also still ignoring the Wii era, when sales were MUCH better.
Did you not read the whole Catch-22 thing in the article? EA does make them (well, FIFA, anyway), but they don't sell well because they suck, so EA doesn't use enough money to make the next one good, so it doesn't sell, and so on. If they actually bothered to make a good one that matched the PS4 version in everything but graphics (which is completely possible if they just put enough money and effort into it), it would sell to all the FIFA loving Switch owners who DON'T own a PS4 or XB1, which is a very large audience, along with some who own multiple consoles but would pick the Switch version for handheld play. EA doesn't do it, because it would be risky for their short term profits, and because they don't understand that their poor Switch game sales are their own fault in the first place.
@Razer I've deleted my posts as this is just pointless. I'm sure you'll take that as a win and feel good for the day.
The best thing about this conversation was that I didn't actually say anything in support of EA other than "maybe don't wish 9000 people out of a job" and "if EA dies, another 100 companies will step in who are just as bad" but you're so blinded by hatred for the company that you just can't see any reasoning at all.
Plus, given your position on the matter, I'd assume that you'd understand how much of an insulting attack "you work for EA" is.
(Also, there's an edit button so that you don't have to multi-post when your brain spits out some other nonsense to fire at me ten seconds after the last one.)
Have a good day.
@BulbasaurusRex you're lying bruah. The Wii sold more than 100 million and FIFA games on the platform didn't even hit the one million.
You're just making stuff up.
Nobody was playing FIFA on the Wii, cut it out.
Tiger Woods PGA tour sold better than FIFA on the Wii. Hell even PES sold better.
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