There's no denying the fact that the 3DS has been a key hardware release for Nintendo. Not only has this plucky handheld seen some of the best Nintendo games in recent memory – including The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, Mario Kart 7, Super Smash Bros. For Nintendo 3DS and countless others besides – but it arguably kept the company (and this very website) in business during the barren years of the Wii U. It may not have reached the same dizzying heights as its predecessor, the Nintendo DS – that console sold a staggering 150 million units during its lifespan – but the 73 million 3DS systems retailed since 2011 is not to be sniffed at by any means, especially when you consider that the DS didn't have smartphones and tablets to compete with for the majority of its existence.
The 3DS turns eight this coming March, and has enjoyed a level of longevity that is only matched by the monochrome Game Boy. However, while it has made perfect sense for the company to have a handheld and a home console on the market together in the past, the launch of the Switch has drastically altered Nintendo's strategy. Switch consolidates the company's handheld and home interests into a single platform, negating the need for a 'new' dedicated portable – and this is surely the reason why Nintendo hasn't chosen to replace the ageing 3DS in the past 24 months, despite its advanced years.
While Nintendo has insisted that the console still has a place in its plans – especially while the Switch remains so expensive – that position is becoming increasingly untenable as consumers lose interest and divert their attention (and money) towards the new hybrid platform. If you needed evidence of this fact, then consider this: we're now seeing obvious signs of the console's decline in the market which loved it most.
Yesterday, the news broke that recent AAA 3DS games had flopped at retail in Japan. It has been reported Luigi's Mansion has only managed to sell 82,577 copies in just over two months on sale in Japan, while Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey – a Christmas release and surely one of the console's last big games – limped to 9,178 copies in its opening week of sale. 2015's Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam sold 49,266 units in the same period of time – and even that was considered to be a poor showing.
Given the incredible popularity of the 3DS in its homeland – where it has traditionally sold much better than elsewhere in the world – such figures aren't just worrying, they're fatal. The 3DS has served Nintendo well, but it would be foolish to suggest it's doing anything but circling the drain right now; outside of the aforementioned ports (which include the upcoming Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn), the system has been starved of exclusive content for months and eShop releases have all but dried up. Nintendo continues to push the console (indeed, it figured in the firm's Black Friday and festive retail line-ups) but we suspect that this is simply to offload existing stock; the company is famously cautious about holding too much inventory and when the last of the 3DS and 2DS systems are sold, it's hard to imagine any more being produced.
While all of this might sound needlessly downbeat, it's vital to remember those eight glorious years of service. Few consoles get to that age – heck, the original Xbox lasted half that time before it was replaced, while the Dreamcast only truly existed in Sega's plans for less than three years. By contrast, the 3DS has enjoyed an unnaturally long lifespan, partly down to Nintendo's all-in-one approach for the Switch (which meant no direct successor was required) and partly down to the fact that as a platform, it has been ideally suited to a wide range of genres, including platformers, RPGs, 3D adventures, puzzlers and racing games.
The system's autostereoscopic gimmick may something even Nintendo itself has tried to shake off in recent years, but it remains impressive, even today. While later 3DS titles have ignored this feature in order to optimise performance, others – such as the aforementioned Luigi's Mansion – have harnessed it to give us a unique perspective which Nintendo wanted to deliver years ago; the GameCube original was designed with 3D televisions in mind, but the feature was never realised, until the 3DS release last year. It's not just AAA games which have used the glasses-free 3D effect well over the years; M2's line of restored and updated Sega arcade games has provided fans with the definitive means of experiencing classics like Out Run, After Burner and Super Hang-On – outside of tracking down the original arcade versions, perhaps.
In fact, it's not too much of an exaggeration to say that in time, the 3DS will be considered to be one of Nintendo's most assured hardware releases. A quick glance over its library shows a real embarrassment of amazing games – both physical and download-only – and in years to come, we imagine it will rank pretty highly when fans debate which Nintendo system is host to the best selection of software. As such, we should probably be more thankful to the 3DS than we possibly are already; if Nintendo's DS successor had been a dud, would the company be in the position it is now? The failure of the Wii U meant that Nintendo needed a sizeable crutch to lean on, and as far as crutches go, the 3DS was brilliant. It's not too outlandish to suggest that the 3DS kept the company in the hardware business – the late president Satoru Iwata would arguably have had a harder time convincing shareholders to stick with the expense and risk of producing hardware had Nintendo been staring down the barrel of both home and portable disaster.
All of which makes it hard to say goodbye, but that time has most definitely come. Nintendo needs to have all of its attention on Switch, and part of that is slowly pulling the 3DS out of the public eye so that Switch sucks up every possible dime. It's possible that Nintendo's 2019 plans for the console include new SKUs, one of which could potentially be the mooted 'Switch Lite', a system which sacrifices certain aspects of the console's functionality to hit a lower price point, thereby making it more appealing to those parents who, 12 months ago, would have picked the 3DS for their children. If this comes to pass, then the older handheld really does become redundant.
Nintendo 3DS, we salute you – but your time is indeed up.
The problem with the 3ds right now is that it's not cheap enough. Hardware and software is expensive.
Third parties have broadly moved on to the Switch (even Atlus, who have announced that Etrian Odyssey X will be their final EO game on the platform, and who don't seem to developing anything else for the system now that PQ2 is done). First-party support has moved on beyond the occasional port of an older game. I love my 3DS and plan on playing it for years to come, but I don't really see the sense in trying to keep it alive at this point.
it's been time for the 3DS to retire.
yes, it's a great system. yes, it has great games.
but both public support and software support have dried up.
much like the grandpa who's been on life support for a year, it's time to let go.
I can't even find a New 3dsxl anymore. I dont want a 2dsxl either. I guess ill just have to fix my current one myself....
Yes, i think it's time for the 3DS to end it's course and Nintendo moving forward to Switch.
Switch is already getting what the Wii U didnt, but what the 3DS did. a Main Animal Crossing Game (and yes it's a mainline Animal Crossing game, Nintendo confirmed on twitter: https://twitter.com/nintendoamerica/status/1040369834083573761), a Main Fire Emblem Game (unless you wanna count TMS#FE as a main Fire Emblem game) Luigi's Mansion 3, and a Main Pokemon Game and all of which are planned for this year too. if this isn't a hint that 3DS is on it's way to becoming an end. than, I don't know what will.
And While, i do love the system along with it's exclusives and do share fond memories. (and still do plan pick up alot of games for the system in the near future.) i do however understand that the system is getting too old and it's seems Nintendo is done with making any new games for the system other than Remakes of other Nintendo games and a few third party games from atlus and such. meaning that Nintendo Switch is the future for new games weather they are unannounced or the big games that i have mention.
I Expect the 3DS will be discontinued in 2020-2021. but Online Services and the Eshop will continued to remain the same in the next 6 years or so. (at least as long as Wii's Services did, with the online services ending first than the Wii Shop Channel after.)
I think it is time to move on the stores are getting rid of the 3ds stuff now.2011-2019 is a long life for it.
But, for me it's the Beginning of my journey to add more Japanese Exclusive 3DS games.
I got 5 Japanese 3DS games on last year. 🤓
Its the sad truth. I love this console to death, and I still believe it to be my favorite console ever. All I need to do is beat Miitopia and Warioware Gold, along with Kirbys Extra Epic Yarn when that comes out, then its game over.
I'm lending my N3DSXL to a friend of mine. He is still young and has not had a chance to play all of the classics on the Nintendo side. 3DS has access to an EXTENSIVE amount of the greats (not to mention it can tour the Louvre).
I mean, Nintendo has moved on since last year, the fact that they are still selling the system doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. There haven't been much but ports in more than a year and the few remaining games are also ports, so I think it's only on NL's mind that the company hasn't entirely focused on the Switch
Love my 3DS!
Looking forward to Persona Q2 and still need to finish Alliance Alive (will stay on my desk regardless - earned it 🙂)
But games like Yo-kai Watch 4 on Switch is what I care about now. Nintendo should just focus on Big new games for Switch. Let 3rd party keep the 3DS alive if they want.
I’ve bought a 3DS game just this week, but it’s had a great run. It may not be financially viable for Nintendo to keep supporting it. But the amazing library of games will always be there - hopefully due to the success of the system they won’t be too hard to find.
I'm going with "no" until such time as a cost reduced Switch comes to market that can hit that magical $200 USD or less price point. For now the 3DS is still filling a market need for those who enjoy Nintendo titles but simply cannot afford a Switch.
I wish the 3DS was still going strong. I love mine, and I love the 3D effect. One of the best systems I have ever had, that is for sure.
I may grab an XL if they heavily discount it before they pull the plug completely. Some amazing games for the 3ds that I havnt had chance to play between selling mine a couple of years ago and this point in time.
Hardly "an unnaturally long lifespan"! GBA lasted as long, and the DS was around a good few years. Even the unappreciated Vita notched up 8 years. Handhelds have always had longer generations than home consoles. It IS time for it to retire though. I played on it recently to catch up on the games released in the last couple of years, and if you've played on the Switch, the graphics look so rough.
The console is not the issue. Consoles come and go. It is the 3d technology that is important.
A smaller Switch that includes 3d is what we should have. The 3d is the feature that would separate the Switch consoles.
If Nintendo drop the 3d after spending 8 years selling us the idea, I hope Sony bring out a 3d machine and capture the market from Nintendo.
@razorxkenshin Very true. Nintendo need to start marketing both the console and games a bit more budget friendly if they want it to survive much longer.
The 3DS is my favorite console. The Switch will never replace it for me. I can never see myself playing the Switch as much as or more than I play my 3DS. That said, I understand that focusing solely on the Switch is pretty much the way to go. Still, I'm not going to complain one bit if new 3DS games still come out.
@Agramonte Nice set!
So lets make more trash for our world by throwing away a perfectly fine game system? I wish some things would just a bit longer. Why does everything have to be a throw away and make room for the next device? The graphics on the Switch are really no better than the Wii U. What a waste.
Love my 3ds. Still house to some of my most favorite games ever and a legendary machine all a round. @TenEighty I agree. Throwing away the 3ds isn't going to solve all the switch's problem.
I know the 3ds has lived a long fuffilling life but must everyone constanly yell for the death of a gaming great that has more than earned whatever breeze that blows its way.
The 3DS envy is strong here.
I hate it when a good console stops being relevant, the 3DS ceasing production means no more DS-playing machines, and to an extent GBA since I believe the homebrew scene proved it has 100% GBA compatibility, quite sad indeed.
Why does this article need to exist? Why do people feel there needs to be a definitive "moment" when they can say that the 3DS is dead?
Man, it's time is slowly coming to an end. I have so many good memories with this handheld from the very beginning of it's announcement. Cheers to you old friend, you had a good run.
"While Nintendo has insisted that the console still has a place in its plans..."
which of course was a lie, nobody here was fooled by this.
"If you needed evidence of this fact, then consider this: we're now seeing obvious signs of the console's decline in the market which loved it most."
in part because nintendo did not, in fact, act like the console had a place in its plans. Now you'd only be delaying the inevitable at this point (eight years is pretty good!) but the 3DS remaining a part of nintendo's plans had about as much truth to it as the infamous "third pillar" of the wii, DS, and GBA - and this was apparent to people who would be buying those products.
I have put a ton (a literal ton, and then some) of hours into the 3DS and still mostly use my Switch for Smash Ultimate (which, don't get me wrong, is outstanding), but after the Kirbs in a couple months (and Persona Q2, if we even get that on this side of the ocean with these sales numbers), there's just not enough effort on their side to justify it on my side.
I love the 3DS, but it does seem like it's at the end of it's life. It got a boost from the New 2DS XL, but that only lasted until the end of year in 2017. It was a rather dramatic spike in sales, but now we're back to about where it naturally would have been a year ago otherwise.
Nintendo has their own numbers here: https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/hard_soft/number.html
Also would have liked to see a true 3D Sonic on 3DS, not the clunkiness that was Generations or the puzzle, marathon levels/mixed with 2.5D levels mess that is Lost World.
Heck, if Lost World had the levels be consistently about platforming and breaking badniks it would have been so much nicer to play, dull perhaps but still better to blast through.
Eh. Nintendo will keep supporting it until it reaches the 10 year mark I imagine. And even going beyond that could still get some third party software here and there once in a blue moon afterwards.
My 3DS has been hacked since Samus Returns came out, that was the nail in the coffin for me and when I stopped buying for it.
Considering the yes and no gap isnt that big. Until there is a so called Switch Lite of which I suspect there won't be one as that would be a non-starter. Why kill yourself doing that. If the reason was for a Switch where the Joy-cons come off and anyone can enjoy it.
Mario & Luigi's sales in Japan were absolutely pathetic, especially for a Christmas release. I'm actually a bit concerned as to whether the remake can recuperate its budget.
If Kirby Extra Epic Yarn sells that much, then I think it's time for Nintendo to stop publishing any new 3DS releases.
Posted this another thread, but still relevant:
I really wish the Switch was half as customizable as the 3DS. Even the built-in software was fun to pull out from time to time.
What? Why are you all trying to kill the 3DS? It's literally the best game system right now. It has more GOOD games than any other handheld out there.
Ports and experimental games (like Sushi Striker) are peanuts to develop. Not seeing the harm in sticking with this.
The latest games are ports... maybe if they bought out something completely new
I'm torn. The 3ds is the console I love but never got to own.
If it gets a longer lifespan, sold for 50 bucks with the games at 20, you'll see it stay for over 7 years from now on.
I'm sure that route is very profitable for Nintendo. And for a bit, I wished they would take that route.
I hope we'll see the return of no glasses 3d. Especially the super stable new 3d thing - it was a great thing and we need more of it.
As far as a gaming system, it's 99% done for me, just waiting on the fallen-out-of-2018-release-of-Shovel Knight-King-of-Cards to drop first. It will though, still be a 3D camera and mp3 player. I may even hack it to do some other things, but that's going to be its afterlife. If 3D camera files and imagery "stay" a thing, then I'm all set with my 3D camera. Still nothing like a lifelike 3D photo if you've never seen it, and I'm still creating memories. Music can can always upgrade til I run out of room.
tbh, i want a bit more connectivity between the 3ds & the switch.
I'll say goodbye when it rots in my hands. I love it.
The original DS is vastly superior, but what a ride.
Etrian Odyssey Nexus will be my last 3DS game.
Now would be a great time to make the top price of 3ds games $20. I’ve moved on to the switch but there are several games I’d go back for at that price. Even if it’s digital only price is reduced.
I’d even upgrade to a ‘New’ 3ds too with a hardware price drop.
There could be plenty of life left with the 3ds.
Personally I would have like to see Resident evil mercenaries 2, Battle Network 3ds, and 2d castlevanias or even remake/collection of the GBA era castlevanias.
A new but traditional Breath of fire for the 3ds wouldn't have hurt either or the last monster hunter getting localized like it did overseas. Which @shadowmoon522 if I"m not mistaken had connectivity with its switch counterpart overseas.
@zool 3d is unnecessary cost for development
and is no longer viable, just look at the latest tv's and theatre releases to prove this point
Love my New 2DS XL, the huge game catalogue means it will still be getting played for years to come. On the 3D side of it I couldn’t stand it, made my eyes hurt and the games look worse in my opinion.
The 3DS is like the DS/GBA. When the GameCube failed, the GBA and DS kept Nintendo afloat. Why does everyone forget that GC was also a commercial failure?
I said last year that the 3DS was in decline and that Nintendo should just focus on the Switch since games on 3DS probably won't sell well nowadays and, for some reason, people didn't believe me (and even insulted me for saying that). I'm glad time prove me right. 2017 was probably 3DS last true year.
With that I'm not saying the 3DS is bad in any way now just because the Switch is out. I'm just saying the truth. The 3DS has a lot of great games... but that doesn't change this at all. The PS2 had amazing games and it died eventually too.
In regards to the article, ya seem quick to dig a grave for the 3ds almost like you want it to die on purpose
@nintendosage People forget that for some reason... I mean, the Switch recently passed GameCube lifetime sales and that was before the second aniversary of the Switch.
@DarkLloyd Noone said that. I'm sick of that argument. The 3DS is a great system with a lot of good games... But that doesn't change anything at all. The PS2 was also a great system but it died eventually too.
I have no ill will towards those still loving their 3DS and the games. It has some great games. My family and I own two 3DS XLs, I even enjoyed playing Metroid Federation Force on them! But it is just too small for my hands, and the screen is too tiny and just... dated. I actually like the 3D quite a bit (with the eye tracking), but the resolution... I just want to see the games clearly. So, that's for my own preference.
But the fact that games were going there that I would have liked to enjoy more or were mutated unnecessarily (Metroid Federation Force would have been so much more respected if it wasn't bobble heads) made it like a trap for good developers and ideas. A place I rarely wanted to go.
And that affects more than just me, but also the entire Nintendo focus and library. So, yeah, abandon it. It's time.
Meanwhile, make a more portable Switch for those with the smaller hands. Flip top it.
Just to be clear. It's a system that will live on for awhile, no matter what. I just want Nintendo to stop making games for it.
You had a great run, old friend!
@Spectra Man People need to stop seeing just what they want to see. Noone here is saying that the 3DS is bad and needs to die. What happens here is that the 3DS IS dieing and people don't want to see games that would do 5 times better on Switch (and be much more exciting) getting stuck on 3DS. When Nintendo makes games on 3DS they also put developers and money there. Developers and money that could be used for making games for Switch.
I still use my 3DS a lot. I would never think about taking my Switch into a public atmosphere. I use my 3DS as my portable gaming system and my Switch as my home console. I believe that smaller titles like 2D Zelda, Mario, and other small scale games should stay on the smaller, more portable console. I would love for Nintendo to keep supporting it until a proper handheld successor is announced.
@Thundertron55 But a proper succesor was already released... It came out in March 2017.
I truly love the 3DS and its two screens, but man. I'd love to see Etrian Odyssey or Shin Megami Tensei in GLORIOUS 1080p someday!
Speaking of that, WHEN ARE WE GETTING PHOENIX WRIGHT ON SWITCH????
The problem with the Switch and it's 'portability' is that it's too damn big to even try to fit in your pocket, unlike the multiple 3DSs, which fit perfectly. You can't bring the Switch with you on a trip and just put it in your pocket when you're done, thing needs like a dedicated fanny pack or straight up backpack just to carry it around. Even the battery life of the Switch is butt compared to the oldest 3DS model.
Love my dear 3DS to pieces and I will never forget theae absolute magical 8 years...but...as Gandalf said to Frodo before they departed to the Grey Havens...it is time.
The 3DS has been an awesome little piece of gaming bliss over the years. But, it is almost 8 years old at this point, but the Original Gameboy got games for well over a decade so who knows (the last game that was release on it was 2001, 12 years into its life). Maybe the Big-N will keep release games for it for a couple more years. But, their main focus should be on the Switch and keep the momentum on that going.
That or release an HDS hardware revision that renders in 480p, or 544p qHD like Vita.
That would drive enough interest to keep selling, even if modestly, for another year, year and a half
I love my 3ds and I'm sure I will be playing it for years to come (thanks to my backlog, for sure). I didn't buy a Wii U and I still don't own a Switch (just a matter of time).
With all that said, I believe it is about time Nintendo moved on. The 3DS already has a great library, but there is only so much you can do with 1st party remasters.
Edit: still waiting for Etrian Nexus and, please oh please, a western release for PQ2
They should just add more games to the nintendo selects list. Give players a chance to experience some great games they may have passed on before or that you can't easily find in stores anymore at a cheaper price.
@DarkLloyd you are not comparing like for like and its a poor excuse. If Nintendo drop 3d then people will say there was no demand for 3d games. But that would not be true. What is causing less demand is Nintendos policy not to update the 3ds and produce more games.
Now maybe there is a brand new 3d console that Nintendo are ready to release. But if they are planning to drop out of the 3d market, their excuse will be, there was less demand, which is not true.
I had a 3d TV for 3 year, it developed screen burn and I had to replace it last year, and guess what Currys had no 3d TV. There was no demand now 4k is here the salesman was taught to say. But that is also not true. There was a demand for 3d but it was expensive to access 3d content, it was greedly over priced by Sky TV and the dvd companies. Sky would not let you have 3d unless you subscribed to their full sport and movie package. 3d Dvd's were double the price of standard ones and 25% more than blue Ray.
If we lose 3d games it is because Nintendo are dropping it now that the Switch sales are growing and not because gamers don't want it.
Sales are down because there isn't any new games...
@Trajan got it in one 👍
My current New 3DS XL is probably my most valuable possession. I have over 200 games downloaded on it and some I've barely even touched. I still plan to get games for it and would gladly see Nintendo announce some new ones. I enjoy certain types of games on handhelds and 3DS is my choice for those over Switch because it's much more comfortable to hold and has a proper d-pad.
Switch is still so much more expensive to have than a 3DS. The Switch doesn't quite fit the same space in the market affordability wise at this time. Until then, the 3DS still has something over it.
Personally, i would be fine seeing the end of the DS. Its been around for a long time now and nothing really new happens. Its just terrible 3rd party games from a bargain bin or overpriced remasters. There has also been some decent 3ds titles launch that made no sense being on the 3ds like the remake of Luigis mansion. It did well, let is die and focus entirely on Switch. Nintendo right now just looks like its competing with itself and it just seems weird from a business perspective.
Yesterday I picked up
New Super Mario Bros 2
Luigi's Mansion 2
Woolly @ Yoshi
Donkey Kong Returns
So it's not over for me yet.
Although I own a switch almost day one I still love my N3DSXL.
@grupvilla Not really. 3ds is an iphone and Switch is a iPad.
That headline should be “Come ON Nintendo 3ds...” not come IN Nintendo 3ds. That would be messy and most likely break your DS
The sales figures have spoken: the time of the 3DS is over, which is sad, since the 3DS is a fine piece of kit (Could have done with a less manky screen though), but even AAA games for it don’t sell anymore...
@zool im not saying there isn't any demand, i am saying there 's not enough of you guys for them to pour money in so why continue making a feature for a small fraction of an audience? its just not viable anymore.
we play games to play games do we not?
I think Nintendo should just drop the 3DS like a bad smell. That's been one of Nintendo's very biggest issues with its consoles once the new generation comes around for a long time now as far as I'm concerned, and I don't think it creates a satisfying experience or builds good sentiment among all those people who spent their hard-earned cash on one its consoles in the last few generations. But, what I do think Nintendo should do is put any future 3DS games on Switch too, why the hell not, and also get all the old 3DS games on Switch as well (you know, via digital downloads or whatever). Don't punish 3DS owners by putting them out in the cold, that's just a douche move, but truly satisfy all your Switch owners. It's not rocket science.
I think the 3DS already has moved on. Nintendo reiterates over and over that it's a great entry point for kids, big library, etc. They're just selling it as a legacy console like it's an NES mini at this point, and there's plenty of people who find that useful, particularly for kids they wouldn't trust a Switch with, and don't want a PSXBox for. I think as long as people buy it and as long as third parties think they can make profit on it like it's Just Dance on Wii, it's not really costing Nintendo a dime to keep it going..... They've successfully separated 3DS from their core messaging now. It's a Wii Mini. It's a PS3 Ultra Slim. It's the legacy old platform to sell as a second tier because there's no WiiU Mini. Not a bad thing until the Switch Go or whatever comes out to replace it's segment.
@brunojenso Thanks man.
It is great when the nephews and little cousins come to visit. They can pick their poison... 😂
Plot twist: Game Boy Classic becomes the new entry point handheld instead of a "Switch Mini"
I don’t quite understand the point of this sentiment. Nintendo will discontinue the 3DS when it makes business sense to do so. In the mean time, it’s not hurting anybody for the 3DS to continue on. The Switch isn’t exactly lacking for new games.
If Nintendo dropped the RRP of all software on the eshop to £10 and the New2DS to £99 (like Sony did with PSP games on the PSN) it would be a perfect foil for parents looking for a ‘first console’ for their kids or adults looking for a decent gaming experience on the go. The Switch might be portable but I’m not taking a £300 console on the bus!
I think either 3DS continues and a successor announced or a handheld only Switch is announced (non-detachable Joy-Cons, doesn't work with a dock, much cheaper than base Switch) and 3DS is discontinued.
Whenever Nintendo puts out a new pocket-sized handheld (which the Switch cannot claim to be), my only personal requirement is that is has a 3D display.
I think Nintendo sticking with the 3DS at this point is working to their detriment. The fact is that the amount of people who are still into the 3DS has been quickly dwindling down ever since the Switch was released and the amount of people who are still interested in buying new games for it is shrinking ever shorter. At this point it is basically just a small enthusiast crowd that still cares about 3DS games, compared to the Switch audience which is a massive mainstream audience it just seems silly for them to continue devoting resources to that. Especially when their main competition has been getting a lot more 3'rd party releases, it is more important than ever for the Switch to get a ton of great first party releases. The 3DS is not even a part of the debate anymore, nobody is seriously considering purchasing one in 2019 as their primary handheld, that audience has been claimed by the Switch and smartphones.
I find it hard after playing switch in handheld to play a new game in a downgraded format. I do like the 3D gimmick still but it's challenging seeing shark polygons after silky smooth Mario Odyssey in the same hands
@impurekind Can't easily port the game when the console only has one screen.
Wii U would have been a great platform for a DS reader.
If the 3DS/2DS was like $99 with first party preloaded game and 2DS WAS $79 it would fly off the shelf.
I don't really think there's been any recent "AAA" games for the 3DS. A (hypothetical) Switch Mini wouldn't address the fact that Switch games cost $80 a piece and almost never go on sale, unlike 3DS games which are much cheaper (no more than $50 new, and they go down in price over the course of the system's lifespan). Those features make the 3DS a more attractive platform for price-conscious consumers. Also, if they're going to make a good game I really couldn't care less whether it's for the Switch, 3DS, or N64.
About time. We've had too many casualties of recent re(de)makes on 3ds that could have actually improved from being on Switch.
Aka games like Luigi's Mansion 1 3D which is visually worse than the original.
RIP, never forget, and please no more.
It should die off! Focus on Switch!
The 3ds will live forever!
@DarkLloyd I don't agree with your premise at all, but let's say you are right and 3d was another one of Nintendos failures, along with a whole list of other innovative ideas that did not work out, other than as a short term money making gimmic. Like the balance board.
Nintendo takes one foot forward and one back and always drifts along in the PlayStation's wake. The Switch is one forward step having recovered from the Wii u disaster which was a step back from the Wii.
In other words if Nintendo stopped trying to be different from Sony and Microsoft and produced a console to rivel them, we the gamer would have Nintendo exclusive games and a top end, high spec machine to play them, and the latest 3rd party games, on. But we have a lower spec home console that doubles up as a semi portable device.
OK the Switch is a good seller unlike the Wii u. The Wii was a great seller but almost every thing about it has been assigned to history, and Nintendo are still not thinking that graphics are important. Maybe not so important for their cartoon graphic style but very important for 3rd party developers.
If Nintendo lose their grip on the truly portable market, where will they turn when the Switch sales level out?
I can't imagine how much Nintendo would be in the cack-ca if the 3DS hadn't done so well. You can thank the 3DS that the Switch existed at all.
"In other words if Nintendo stopped trying to be different from Sony and Microsoft and produced a console to rivel them, we the gamer would have Nintendo exclusive games and a top end, high spec machine to play them, and the latest 3rd party games, on."
I can guarantee you there would still be many 3rd party publishers who won't develop games on Nintendo hardware if they made a PlayStation/Xbox clone.
I can also guarantee you that such Nintendo hardware would not be particularly successful.
With the Switch doing so well despite being the mobile gaming market already being so large and saturated, I think it's safe to say that Nintendo's grip on the portable market is here to stay.
Not as big a fan as many people here. I think it’s a decent system, it had some games I enjoyed, but the dreadful quality screens were a genuine hindrance to me.
Anyway, no need to kill it off. Drop the price of the system, drop the price of the software, make it an entry level thing.
Next, copy Microsoft’s Back-compatibility tactic and make selected 3DS games available on the Switch. Offer similar options to DS games on Wii U. It would have to be selected games as they’d only want to emulate games that can be played with buttons. Plus they could control the flow of games onto the Switch, using them to build hype for new sequels, as pre-order bonuses and as part of the Online subscription service. Really make use of that legacy content.
One of my most memorable Nintendo moments was turning on my launch day 3DS for the first time and being amazed by the 3D effect. The 3DS, in a way, died when the 3D effect was no longer supported. I only bought titles for the system that supported 3D. I still love my new 3DS XL with the super stable 3D. The system will remain my preferred way of playing OoT, Luigi's Mansion, Sega arcade games, and so many others. I hope we see glasses free steroscopic 3D again from Nintendo, though I doubt it.
@westman98 I hope you are right. But I can only see you being right if a 3d DS replacement is in the pipeline. The Switch is not that replacement.
Calling old ports "AAA" is a bit dumb. There haven't really been any AAA 3DS games for quite a while. Maybe Metroid Samus Returns was the last.
“In other words if Nintendo stopped trying to be different from Sony and Microsoft and produced a console to rivel them, we the gamer would have Nintendo exclusive games and a top end, high spec machine to play them, and the latest 3rd party games, on”
1. I doubt I’m alone in not wanting another cut down PC offering the same as Sony and MS apart from first party games.
2. It would flop. The gigantic investment on Nintendo’s part to get parity in terms of power and Online Services would be a huge gamble. Even if they did there’s no guarantee gamers would buy it to play Mario instead of Halo or The Last of Us. There’s no guarantee thirdparty publishers would support another system cannibalising existing sales. Nintendo’s first party offering would be significantly weakened anyway as they’d have to support two systems-and they have to have a handheld out as thats what always sells.
From now on Switch is the way forward for Nintendo. The most vital thing is only having to support one system. After that it’s obvious that it would be a handheld, the bonus being one that keeps a foothold in the home Console market for their own games.
The 3ds is still an awesome machine with matching library. I also love NS, but I still consider the possibility that when/if the NS starts to slowly taper off in sales, that Nintendo might treat it, the very same as WU.
Last I looked, I can still purchase a Galaxy XL from stores in my area. I still plan on getting it, since I haven't been able to properly play my original model, due to damage. There are also a few games that I still want to get for the system.
I don't have a whole lot of time to game, so I still get enjoyment out of my older consoles.
Looking at the sales numbers, I'd say the Switch has been a very effective "replacement" for the 3DS.
It's size and price hasn't hindered its commercial viability anywhere, with the exception of Japan since it is the one region where Switch sales lag behind 3DS sales launch aligned. Higher western sales easily make up for the deficiencies in Japan.
The only reason I bought a 3DS was to play the games I couldn't play on Wii U. I had the GBA player and almost got that one for the snes. I been have dreaming of something like the switch for years. Even though there are games I greatly enjoy on 3DS I haven't picked it up since I got my Switch.
Playing the Switch in portable mode is much better in every respect besides lack of 3D. More comfortable, better control, easier to see.
Let the 3DS die a respectful death but let it die.
One of Nintendo's best consoles for sure. Remember 2013-2014? The 3DS was firing on all cylinders: Luigi's Mansion 2, Monster Hunter 4, Zelda a Link Between Worlds, Pokemon X & Y, Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire, Smash Bros, just to name a few. It's ability to keep Nintendo in the black (or close to it) cannot be understated. After the 3DS faltered for the first 6-7 months of it's lifespan, it really was the little engine that could.
I'll miss it dearly, but what a legacy it leaves behind.
Look at the results...Almost 50-50. People still love, buy and play 3DS. I know, the WiiU successor is a gorgeous console but in no way a successor to the 3DS, which has the quality, library, capability and the potential to be the "Switch lite". All the latest releases prove that fact. Sales dropped, ok that was to be expected with a new Nintendo console around, but the 3DS family still sells considerably well. People at Nintendo know better than anyone what they are doin' .
The issue with boosting 3DS numbers via an enhanced model or a huge price cut is that it could potentially eat into the Switch sales. Nintendo is far more interested in keeping the 3DS in sort of a Schrödinger-esque state: as long as they do not admit it directly, it's neither dead nor alive, so some people, who wouldn't be spending their money on Switch anyway, will use it on the 3DS, thinking it still has some life left in it.
@NintendoDimi Where do you see sales like that? Those sales are really small. Even being remakes those are not great.
@westman98 it's a question of figures and how they are used (manipulated).
If the Switch figures are being compared to the 3ds that's fair enough. But you can't then use the same Switch figures and compare them to the Wii u. You would be using the figures twice. That's what politicians do.
I bought my Switch to replace my Wii u not my 3ds.
@zool if 3DS games are selling way below what other games on the same series (and on the same hardware) did, 3DS hardware sales are also way down compared to last year and the Switch ones (obiously) are much better in terms of hardware and software sales that means the 3DS...is doing ok?
Personally i haven't been through half of the 3DS catalogue so I still support the 3DS. I wouldn't mind if the 3DS took on the role of retro console gaming, like ports from N64, GBA,GC (large catalogue since ROMs are illegal) maybe some PS1 and if possible good Wii games
When I was answering the poll question I imagined myself having to make a decision in some game with a countdown timer, akin to something like Detroit or Heavy Rain, where my decision would alter the outcome of the 3DS’ destiny. I don’t want it to go away but I also want those kinds of games on Switch. It’s time Nintendo made an adapter to play my 3DS library. I’d be stoked if that came to be a thing!
So long its alive no need for it too die
@Trajan Are we still with this? Where is Pokemon going to? Yeah, on Switch.
Switch is 3DS sucessor. No matter how much people deny it.
They kinda already have retired it though. 2018 only saw a handful of games and 3DS isn't even getting the next Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Yokai Watch or Fire Emblem games. Besides, this isn't the first time that a successful system has been supported after its successor released. The GBA was still getting games after the DS came out, same with PS2 after PS3, DS after 3DS etc.
Nintendo has been playing their cards right by slowing shutting down the 3DS.
Man, I try to play my 3DS to clear my back log of games but after playing the Switch the 3DS feels so small (New 3DS)
Saying that I went digital with my 3DS and would never trade it in. Still plenty to buy for it too, still need the latest Warioware, Luigi's Mansion and for sure will get Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn (Wish that was coming to the switch) and still need to get a couple of the Pokemon games and many more.
It had a fantastic run but it seems, going by recent sales that people have moved on.
Mine still comes on holiday with me each year
Yes it is dying. So don't go sticking no paper mario and the thousand year door on it lol. It be nice instead for a switch remaster if they did.
@grupvilla that's because the 3DS users have a massive library of excellent games to choose from, whereas the Switch users have only a handful of those games (not even that) and a ton of crappy indies, that's why every descent Switch game sells well , let's face it, they're not that many. Plus the 3DS is much more than just pokemon. Saying that the Switch is the 3ds successor is like saying that a suitcase is the successor to the backpack. And you know, that's not the case...
The 3DS and the GBA are tied for my favorite handheld console. I'm still buying 3/DS games and anticipate digging back into that sizable library for years to come.
That said, all the signs are pointing to the fact that Nintendo is slowly putting the 3DS out to pasture. I suspect that it'll be awhile yet before support is completedly ended, but the releases have slowed to a trickle of ports and delayed localizations. The primary reason that I finally caved and bought a N3DS XL is because I fully suspect that this past holiday season was the last in which the 2/3DS family would be pushed; heck, they ignored the 3DS units and highlighted the budget 2DS options instead.
While I'd love for more portable offerings to come, the aging 3DS almost has to make way for the Switch at this point. Even franchises that have classically been tied to Nintendo's handhelds are starting to make the leap.
I know it's not going to happen, but imagine a 3ds-type of handheld (i.e. dual screens, clamshell design and stereoscopic 3d), with the power of a Switch! Imagine games like Xenoblade Chronicles X and Pikmin 3 in 3d...
@ap0001 "I have put a ton (a literal ton, and then some) of hours into the 3DS"
A literal ton of hours? I didn't know time weighed anything! Is that why my weight keeps going up as I get older? 😂
The fact that the biggest system seller for 3DS will (most likely) never have another mainline game(Pokemon) is basically the dagger in the heart.
@grupvilla and in a few years people will call for the death of the Switch.
Switch only has one screen and it the size of a tablet. It isn't a real successor.
I find myself in full agreement with this article. The 3DS is a fantastic device, one that I enjoyed for a very long time, with an absolutely awesome library of games.
But it is time to move forward.
The only thing I think Nintendo should do with the 3DS is to keep a limited supply of cheap 3DS on the side with a supply of games on store shelves for this year. New content should be Switch focused, but let the 3DS fade out, don't abruptly pull it.
@Trajan That's quite a silly argument. I dont think anyone cares how many screens it has as far as staying power goes. Its about quality games. As long as they keep pumping out quality games the system will thrive just like anything else. There is nothing out there like the switch and until there is, they will have excellent sales
I get the 3DS is old. I get that it's dying. Yes. We know.
You know what my problem is?
The Switch isn't a replacement for dual-screen gaming, and when the DS/3DS line is gone... So are a LOT of unique types of games. And if that doesn't bother you, then there's something wrong with you.
I truly don't see how a game like Etrian Odyssey can even work on the Switch, and I predict that series will go completely dormant after 3DS.
In my opinion, the console still has something to show, even though, well, it already has its age and with its "young sister" who has all the attention it deserves to support Nintendo in the business, as it is somewhat complicated.
However, cases how the NES, SNES, even today with the Wii U and even the Wii, it has been shown that games for those can still be developed and shown even when those consoles were no longer in "the spotlight" and were already given by the "eternal rest"; but, well, it's Nintendo's decision!
I...never mentioned the Wii U.
id probably buy another 3ds if they release that darn new 2ds xl animal crossing edition everywhere else
I think it should still remain on the market. However I think it's should be done getting exclusives. Nintendo should focus on switch and if they can get it on the 3ds similar to what they did with fire emblem warriors, Sushi Strikers, and Captain Toad. It hurts the switch's line when they could have filled in some time between new games with games like warioware, luigi's mansion, or the remakes of the Mario and luigi games.
@westman98 no but you compared Switch sales numbers and 3ds sales numbers. But a lot of Switch sales come from Wii u owners.
I'm thinking of downgrading to a NEW 2DS XL. My New 3DS XL's cartridge slot likes to not read the game card once in a while that I have to blow into it to make it work.
@WaveBoy you are the wino of the 3ds world. LOL very specific Information there. You have a wonderful palette ... er... set of eyes.
There aren't exactly a ton of Wii U owners.
The Switch has essentially already replaced the Wii U. It is in the process of replacing the 3DS, and it's happening quickly.
Imagine, 8 years and going. All consoles should go 8 years.
@westman98 about 12,000,000 Wii u owners. So if you compare Switch sales to 3ds sales you must first minus 12,000,000 from the Switch figures.
I bought my first 3ds on launch day and was an ambassador. Bought an xl and a new 3ds. Loved all of them, but 2019 is a good time to start phasing it out and hopefully lower the price point on the switch to invite multiple users per household. A clamshell design would be great for younger players.
You assume Wii U owners dont own 3DSs, which is not an assumption you can make. In fact, I'd say the vast majority of Wii U owners have 3DSs.
Not sure how the Wii U factors into much of this anyways. The Switch succeeds both the Wii U and 3DS. The question is whether Nintendo will sunset the 3DS, and seeing how low 3DS software sales have dipped to the point where its recent releases may struggle to recoup their budgets, I'd say the answer is yes.
@Yas GBA stopped getting first party support in 2006, and that was only a couple of games.
That's three years shorter than what the 3DS is currently at.
3DS has had a lovely run.
2019 is the right time to phase it out and move on to full-support focus on the Switch.
It would be a good idea to start to create the iPhone equivalent to the Switch's iPad. Give us something that runs on the same carts, the same engine, the same OS, but pocket-sized. Let it communicate with a Joy-Con via NFC and/or Bluetooth. Maybe it fits a single JoyCon on its side if so desired. And port the iOS/Android mobile Nintendo games to this new Switch!
But we now enter a period where I don't want to buy the same game twice if I want to play it in a more compact way. The Switch is great for a long car ride/train ride/plane ride, but I don't take it to work every day (too bulky/heavy). I do use my iPhone every day on my commute. The 3DS's successor should run on the Switch platform but with compact hardware!
I don't think because it's eight years old and sales have slowed down it should be done with., There is a lot the 3DS could and can do there is nothing like it on the market still and what a library of exclusive titles and content . Nintendo could still market the 3DS as a unique and cheaper gaming system they could drop the price to 99.00 and 129.00 release a couple more special editions maybe even another revision of the system. I believe there is still plenty of mileage they could get out of the 3DS just look at how huge retro gaming is, the SNES & NES Classic mini systems were huge sellers they could add more retro and retro style titles to the system with the benefits of 3D and portability the 3DS is capable of producing good looking graphics and NetFlix works great on the system I could go on but just to sum it up I think if they wanted to Nintendo could market the 3DS and if marketed right I think Nintendo could definitely push the system another year or two easily the 3DS is an amazing little system with a lot to offer in my opinion.
Ever since I got the Switch I have not played my 3ds at all.
@zool As much as I love the idea of them continuing the 3D gimmick, it's not going to happen.
I actually love the 3D, but I don't mind if that goes away.
What I do mind is the dual screen going away. The dual screen nature of the DS/3DS lends itself to all kinds of unusual and interesting types of games that the Switch doesn't really lend itself to very well.
I love the touchscreen interface on the 3DS, too, but I absolutely hate the Switch's touchscreen functionality. It's subpar and less responsive. I'm even gonna miss that stylus, too. I HATE using a touchscreen keyboard on the Switch without a stylus. It's so hard to type on that thing.
PLEASE, Nintendo, I'm begging you... Give me a Switch stylus.
My main issue with the Switch is this:
It's a great replacement for the WiiU.
It is NOT as great a replacement for the 3DS.
The Switch is absolutely an upgrade in every way over the WiiU. Better games. Portability...
But it's almost like a downgrade with regards to the 3DS. Less portable, higher price, worse battery life, no backwards compatibility, no proper Virtual Console, no internet options, no Netflix, no dual screen, worse touchscreen....
I love the Switch, don't get me wrong. And I do agree that consolidating the home and handheld markets at long last is a good idea.
As someone who never had a WiiU, I love it's home aspect.
But as someone who loves handheld gaming, ADORES my 3DS, and still carries it with me everywhere I go... I just can't help but feeling like I've been
A New Nintendo 3DS XL is still like $229 in Canada. That's outrageous for a system that is 4 years old and itself part of a product line that is 8 years old. If this was dropped to like $159 and the 2DS XL $119 (random numbers I know)....it would probably give it a few more legs. New games are $49.99 in Canada, too. No one is gonna pay that money. The 3DS should have a great used market life in a few years, though. Once it's older and more nostalgic ...now it feels expensive for older tech.
I haven't really touched my 3DS since A Link Between Worlds. Of course the fact that they forced you to buy a new system to play SNES games on it was a big reason I stopped supporting the 3DS.
@Nintendofan83 God, that's insane. Here in the US systems and games are dirt cheap. The cheapest 2DS can be had here for as low as $79.99.
Whatever. I'm not yet ready to let the 3DS die, despite owning a Switch and every other current gen system. There's something so insanely charming about the 3DS that makes me want to love it, despite the fact that it was mostly old technology when it came out. And this backlog of RPGs I'll probably never get entirely through? Gold like no other system can claim. I'll be buying new 3DS titles until there are no more new 3DS titles to buy.
@Spoony_Tech yeah tried to get a new New 3DS XL yesterday from the main stores. They said they don’t bother stocking them anymore and offered 2DS instead.
Got a (near new) 2nd hand one in the end
Nintendo seem to disagree.
@MintyNinty It's like Nintendo stopped making them overnight and didn't say anything. I want and use my 3d all the time and both my sons have a 2dsxl because they don't use the 3d anyways.
Wow, taking the sales of two games and basing the system's future on that...
The 3ds is cheap to produce, cheap to buy, cheap to develop for and has a giant software library. As long as overall software sales are at a sustainable level there is no reason to be so overly dramatic about the system's future.
@Ponyo404 Amen to that. I don't think these guys realize just how cheap it is to develop for the 3DS. Nintendo can keep tossing ports and other things they don't want to expend the energy to put 'em on the Switch with for years.
With the 3DS winding down it also burys some of Nintendo’s baffling decisions on the system.
1) Region locking (a infamous first for Nintendo’s handheld)
2) Some SKUs not (widely) available for some regions (Eg. Standard size New 3DS for North America)
3) Resistive touchscreen (3DS was released at the point where almost all phones, Vita had a more sensitive capacitive screen)
But... still i loved my 3DS, and it will be missed!
The vast majority of games on Switch are indie garbage. Once Switch has as many AAA titles as 3DS then they can retire it. And yes, dead cells and Celeste are indie garbage, no matter how many paid youtubers tell you that 8 bit graphics are cool.
I wish Nintendo gave their home consoles as much of a lifespan push as their handhelds.
@Royalblues Yes the 00's were amazing!
@MegaVel91 you have inside news 😲
@westman98 you said "You assume Wii U owners dont own 3DSs, which is not an assumption you can make. In fact, I'd say the vast majority of Wii U owners have 3DSs"
Then you make an assumption.
Do I really need to explain why assuming most Wii U owners have a 3DS is a safer than assuming the opposite?
@Likethepear I've got Hollow Knight and Into the Breach, and those 2 games are most definitely not "Indie garbage". I think that the Switch has a fantastic game library--both first party, big third party games and Indie 3rd party games.
There's so much great content available for the 3DS and yet I feel as though I'm never going to pick it up ever again now that the Switch is here which is a real shame.
I have a 5 year old and will save my 3DS and pass it down to him in a couple of years time. Hopefully many big titles will begin to tumble even further in price on the eshop.
@Likethepear who cares what the game looks like? Celeste provided me more hours and fun than Spiderman did on the PS4. AAA means big budget, which implies high quality, but as we all know that is not the case more often than not.
@westman98 no you don't need to explain. But you should be able to show some evidence to clarify what you say.
I don’t think a £250+ console replaces the 3DS, which can be had for as little as £70/£80 brand new (the 2DS). A large part of Nintendo’s handheld market in the past has been from parents buying for their young children. The Switch in its current form does not cater to that market. They need to release a cheaper, dumbed down version of the Switch (e.g. handheld only, smaller screen, no detachable joycons) if they are to truly replace the 3DS with the Switch. Otherwise, that market will be lost to Mobile forever.
When I go out I always see very young children with battered 2DS consoles playing Mario and whatever. That will not happen with a £250+ Switch!
My 3DS has been gathering dust since the minute I got the switch. In my selfish opinion, Nintendo should focus on the switch because I'd like all future games to be released on the Switch.
In my more objective opinion, They should create a cheaper, smaller, bulkier version for kids with no dock support. They would have their entire player base on the same platform and keep ruling the portable gaming world.
Best handheld console of all time for me but it's not dead yet not until we get the last games of this year and for me my last games will be Etrian Odyssey Nexus and Yokai Watch 3 and hopefully Atlus bring Persona Q2 it will be the perfect send off to this glorious system
I love having a cheap alternative out there. The 3DS is still easier to pop out of my pocket for a few minutes on the bus than the Switch ever will be. They're very different kinds of handheld systems with very different appeals. I'm quite happy with both, though I am hesitant to pay full price for any new 3DS games now.
@Trajan With that logic, why NIntendo is not making anything new for the GameBoy line? Since the DS was quite different to those devices, that should mean (in your logic) that it can't replace those as the new handheld device for Nintendo.
@GravyThief The Switch is not going to be at that price forever and, when the 3DS was announced, the DS was cheaper than it and the 3DS replace it eventually anyways.
I voted yes as much as I love the console, because I don't really believe there's room for it anymore. It's been made clear that Nintendo only releases ports for it, which is OK, but not as a way to justify a few more months or 1-2 years of existence. A truly supported old console would at least receive some new and AAA games.
They said they still supported it because they felt it was a cheaper system and the target was several per household, with the Switch being more expensive... and later they said Switch was supposed to be owned by several members of the same family. Contradiction.
The truth is 3D effect is something most people don't care about (I do!) and 2D games, being on a capped 3DS (2DS) or simply programmed without 3D (most recent releases), or a system that doesn't support autostereoscopic 3D (Switch), look better on the bigger screen. That's all.
@Scottwood101 That is what Nintendo should do to be honest. Expand their Nintendo Select line and offer both the 3DS as a really cheap option to access already released games.
@Moroboshi876 Nintendo compleatly undermined the 3D effect after the release of the 2DS. And since then, the 3D had less and less focus.
By the way, they did the same they are doing now with the GBA and DS: defending that both consoles could coexist because apperantly both were focused on different things. What happened in the end? The same that now is happening with the 3DS and Switch.
Whisper it, but playing Smash Bros. on the 3DS is better than Switch handheld mode.
Having my switch since the week after launch, I still have not taken it out in the real world. When I travel, or go to work, I take the 3DS with me. It is my portable game system. Some day I will be brave enough to take my switch out doors, until then, I will keep my 3DS.
@NintendoDimi What a way to look at things. The Switch has more than "crapy indie games".
Besides, the 3DS had a worse start that the Switch to the point that Nintendo had to discounted a little after it came out and sold it at a loss for a while, remember that? So that means the 3DS wasn't the DS sucessor then? Of course it doesn't. And the DS started a whole different line of handhelds for Nintendo that killed the GameBoy line even if, at the time, Nintendo said that would not happen.
And I know 3DS is more than Pokemon. What I meant was that Pokemon was always a handheld franchise (talking about their main games) to the point their developers said multiple times before that main Pokemon games will never be on home consoles. Where is Pokemon now? Yeah, on the Switch. If they were planning a "true 3DS sucessor" that wouldn't be the case.
Switch is the next Nintendo portable console. That is obvious. And, since it is a portable console that came after the 3DS...You know.
Why would anyone call for the end of a video game system? Especially one that so many people love? And why would a video game website write stories about a premature demise?
No developer switches from one system to another in the click of the fingers. They base their gaming design decisions on revenue - and so will naturally follow the best financial decision. I’ve never played with a 3DS, but I still want it around for as long as possible, especially given the number of great games for it. Long may it live
@razorxkenshin $80 entry price and games 1/4 to 1/2 what Switch games go for?
@Patron most 3ds titles cost 40 euros. Even ancient 3ds titles.
> most 3ds titles cost 40 euros. Even ancient 3ds titles.
Totally wrong. They CAN cost $40 but you can easily score them for $10-20 and they go on sale a lot more often. Target is almost giving them away at this point. Whatever else the Switch may be, cheaper it is not
The 3DS was the machine that certainly kept Nintendo floating. The system itself has some excellent games, and has one of the best libraries for software available right now.
And that was after it was relaunched because of poor sales and launch titles.
But, it's now over 7 years old. The Switch is out, people are moving over to the new hybrid device as the sales figures are showing. I'm actually surprised games like Luigi's Mansion and Kirby's Epic Yarn are coming to the 3DS alone, should have had Switch versions lined up at the same time. This should be the final year of the 3DS. The Streetpass across public WiFi has ceased, Miiverse ceased and Nintendo themselves have given up on the 3D tech they envisioned. Developers need to move with the times and onto the Switch.
Lol, another of those articles. The 3DS won't go away anytime soon. The luster has gone off though, since its mainly a port-device now.
I loved my 3DS! I have fond memories of doing Street Pass with my sons and taking a video game system places we wouldn't normally. The catalog of games is excellent! I recently bought a replacement battery for my 3DS in hopes of playing it more, but to be honest, I have only touched it long enough to install the new battery!! I have a Switch and that's where my attention is right now. Every time Nintendo has released something on the 3DS within the last year or two, I've said "I would have bought that if it were on the Switch!". So in my opinion, it's finally time to move on.
@Bondi_Surfer I see what you're saying and I respect that approach too. I don't want something that others may enjoy to come to an end. However, the truth is, Nintendo is bringing games to the 3DS at this point that should be on the Switch. For example, I would have bought the original Luigi's Mansion if it were released on the Switch. The Switch is portable so the need for the 3DS outside of replaying one of the games in it's immense library is not needed. I do believe that they are missing opportunities for more sales by continuing to produce games for only the 3DS when they belong on the Switch.
I have a special place in my heart for the DS/3DS. I spent almost 10 years drifting around different places, which made it unrealistic to own a home console. My DS Lite and then 3DS were the only video games consoles I carried with me and played during that time. It was literally the only thing that kept me involved with video games. That said, I do agree with other users, who have pointed out that the console and games are still too expensive, which compromises the prospect of further longevity.
@Trajan Yeah, not a perfect situation. But I believe because of the resolution, size of the screen, and fact it has touch capabilities, that you could probably fit both the screens on the 3DS on the Switch (in vertical mode) and maybe have them playable that way somehow. But even if a little modification and tweaking is need, I think a lot of 3DS games would still be great on Switch.
Maybe they will make a new DS series that is close to the Switch.
In short a Switch that playes DS, 2DS and 3DS games only
@grupvilla The 3ds can play game boy games though.
Just clicked on the Mario and Luigi review, saw it was for 3ds and clicked off. 3ds is done for me, and has been since the switch was released. But I prefer my games portable and now I can get amazing games with great graphics on my switch... makes sense to me.
I love my 3DS to bits, but everything and everyone must, one day, go. I bought mine in 2011 - as a matter of fact, mine is the ambassador one. I appreciate the many hours I spent with it, but I'm focused on the Switch now. Thank you, 3DS. I'll never forget you.
It's sad to see the end of the 3DS. Need to start getting all those Game Boy Colour virtual console games way ahead of Nintendo closing the eShop.
@wazlon If it lasts anything like the WiiShop, then it'll be around for about a decade or more. I highly doubt the 3DS Eshop will close anytime soon.
It's really not time for the 3DS to be up yet. It can still do games and game styles that no other system can do the same way, even Switch. 3DS still does what Switch and Smartphone/Tablets cannot do: Be both, without interference from either. Also, the New 2DS/3DS is only 4 years old, has upgraded and expanded technology from the original, and potential that has not been fully explored. Then there is a huge game library still out there with games that have been exclusive to the system or worthy of remake (like the Zeldas). Finally, with a good handful of programming software out there like RPG Maker Fes and SmileBASIC / Petit Computer, creative people with the time have all the tools to make their own 3DS creations come alive.
There is just so many reasons why 3DS remains a great system, and why die-hard fans will stay in with the system and continue to explore what it has to offer.
@Leej07 That's good news, thanks.
@PlusUltra well, theres still a chance of it getting localized. their gonna most likely keep the 3ds active at least until the first main series switch pokemon game comes out later this year since all the newer main series games let you drag up pokemon from previous generations. thats probably the main reason their dragging out its lifespan like this.
There are many reasons I find it unlikely that the 3DS will go away, yet. I have never owned one but I have a DS lite and I still love that console. When playing any older console it brings you back to a spatula of time served up by the Nintendo all-nite diner. The games evoke smells, memories and tons of endorphins that ease you back into a restful state.
I play my DS still much like I do my NES, Gameboy, N64 Wii and more. The DS and by extension the 3DS have two key advantages over the Switch:
1) Portability. The Switch in its current form factor will never be as portable as a DS/Gameboy type of gaming device.
2)Battery Life. The DS and I imagine the 3DS absolutely crush the Switch in battery life. That longer run time gives the player a sense of freedom the Switch could only dream of.
There are other things such as customization of menus, software and added features that make it more personal. If you disregard these things the Switch is a tremendous leap forward for a hybrid system but it has a long road ahead of it to outweigh the the key advantages these legacy systems have. The other problem Nintendo has is the lack of good games. I initially wanted to get a 3DS but the lack of quality software that appeals to me has always been a problem for me.
Never sure why there has to be an official announcement that something is finished. I have no real opinion on the 3DS now I have a Switch. And being an adult, all the latest promotions and games are not put towards me anyway.So to me it is finished and has been for 2 years.
But young children still use theirs I imagine. I don't think Nintendo need to make more games for it, but keeping it in the news is a good idea as it is still the best way to get young kids (Nintendo's future) into their products. Keeping it bubbling away for the 4-10 year old market is fine. It doesn't hurt me as it takes up limited resources and keeps youngsters happy.
The reason I imagine those new games didn't sell is because those kids get the unit and then get Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Mario for £20 and are done.
I love the 3DS and I never want it to end!! Seriously though, I still play my 3DS a lot. I spent way more time on it than my Switch last year and I am planning on buying more games for it this year. The idea that Nintendo should kill it is silly. Surely it makes more sense to invest in it in proportion to its profitability? And that’s exactly what they’ve been doing these past two years.
First let's stop pretending Switch is a home console? It's a handheld you can hook up to a TV. I connect my phone to my TV and still call it my phone, not a PC.
Switch was brought in to replace the 3ds, Nintendo didn't want to upset console fans so they called it a hybrid console and they didn't want to quickly kills the DS by calling it a handheld.
This is how the DS was brought in as a 3rd pillar so not to instantly kill the GBA.
Switch is the 3DS replacement. Switch is a portable. 3DS was given a long send off which has went really well without causing any upset. End of story.
This might be surprising since I've been pretty vocal about keeping the 3ds around in spite of nay sayers on this site. I actually think the 3ds should be let out to pasture. I'll still continue to play my 3ds and the embarrassing number of games I have in my 3ds backlog but even I think it's time now. There isn't much but ports now, sales of software and hardware are down and even in my own personal list I only have about 13 more titles left to collect for the 3ds before I have just about every game I'd want on the platform.
Thanks for 8 years of play 3ds!
@liveswired It's a hybrid. Meaning it isn't the master of either handheld or console.
This is Nintendo consolidating after the failure of the Wii U. Bring the handheld market in with the console market. If they didn't do this, I imagine Nintendo wouldn't have survived another gen as a hardware maker.
It is purely down to Nintendo. I have always maintained that just like other consoles the Switch bubble will burst eventually. If the replacement turns out to be another Wii u and there is no ds type handheld it's good buy Nintendo.
The Switch is now a hybrid console, being used as much as a handheld as a home console, something even Nintendo did not predict.
Given the choice between the Switch or a more powerful Nintendo home console and a more powerful 3ds I would keep the 3ds option.
If the 3ds has come to an end then it is down to Nintendo.
Either there is a 3ds replacement around the corner or Nintendo has shot itself in the foot.
If they drop 3d, then that would be typical Nintendo and I could see them doing the same to the Switch in favour of another idea.
I think it's dangerous for Nintendo to put all their eggs in one basket with the Switch.
They would be wise to launch a new DS, or a powerful not portable Switch for exclusively home use. Whatever they do, I hope they don't fluff it up.
I still use my 3DS, bought a game for it today in fact...But with close to 2 years extended support since the release of the Switch, I really think they should move on and stop splitting resources across two platforms that largely appeal to the same demographic.
For one, it's an 8 year old piece of hardware. Considering the fact that its portable nature meant it was already less powerful than other systems and the leaps and bounds in technology since its conception, it really shows its age at times in various different situations. True that the N3DS exists, but so long as the original does as well then a majority of games will always be held back by original hardware and judging by recent sales figures of 3DS games, I doubt any developers are going to risk releasing another N3DS exclusive.
Then there's the matter of them competing with themselves. As a portable console, I prefer the smaller clam shell design of the 3DS, not to mention battery life...But the Switch is essentially a handheld console too, the 3DS is practically competing directly with it, Nintendo vs Nintendo. Rather than continuing development across two handheld devices locking them to one platform or the other, I would very much rather just have everything release on the Switch. Especially after the barren Switch release schedule of Nintendo games in 2018, where the 3DS has had more releases than their supposed "main" console.
Back in terms of the hardware, I would rather see new releases not held back by 8 year old technology of the 3DS. Something like Wario Ware probably wouldn't have turned out much different on the Switch, but the recent Luigi's Mansion remake or Metroid 2: Samus Returns? I can't help but think they would have looked and played infinitely better on the Switch, not to mention shift more units.
I'm not going to stop using my 3DS any time soon or buying new games for it, but I really think development of new games should be pushed towards the Switch at this point. It's been fantastic that the 3DS has had 8 years, but that's really long enough as far as I'm concerned.
It's nice the the 3DS is there for people as a cheaper alternative but even then, there's 8 years worth of games on there, surely if they stopped developing new games for it there would still be tons of releases people just haven't gotten around to yet.
@Moon there won't be another completely new DS with the Switch on the market since the Switch is the 3DS successor. And I think the Switch already has enough momentum.
@zool the replacement for the 3DS is the Switch. What I think Nintendo plans is to go to the Switch as it's main platform with mobile phone games being the way to put smaller games to get an extra revenue. With the Switch on the market, there isn't a space for another handheld anymore.
And Nintendo gave up with the 3D technology a loooong time ago.
@GloryQuestor That's why games sell so well on it nowadays...
Sure, the 3DS is a great system. But someday it has to die. Like all previous consoles. The DS died and that console sold more than the 3DS and had an even bigger catalog. Same with the PS2 (the best selling console of all time currently).
@Bondi_Surfer Did you see their reasons? The main one being that games are selling less and less on it.
Okay, enough with the "I would have preferred X game on the Switch."
It's getting old.
Did you ever stop to think that Nintendo simply doesn't WANT to put that game on the Switch, and therefore, if it wasn't on the 3DS, it wouldn't exist at all?
@grupvilla I can't agree that the Switch is replacing the 3ds. Nintendo may drop the 3ds in favour of the Switch, not the same thing. The Switch can be used in handheld mode but it is not a truly portable device. Anymore than a small tablet is a smartphone. There's a reason why Nintendo never made the DS with a much bigger screen. Portability.
Nintendo has had in mind for a while now that one size fits all. And now the card has replaced the disc it's possible to have a more pocketable Switch mini. But the price has to be right.
While there can be two, three or four DS or 3ds's in one household, that is not the same with a Switch. Also many PS and Xbox homes will have DS consoles. I'm not sure they will rush to replace the DS with the Switch.
So there will be a smaller device on the way. I just hope Nintendo keep the 3d element and not put it down to a gimmick.
"I can't agree that the Switch is replacing the 3ds. Nintendo may drop the 3ds in favour of the Switch, not the same thing."
...I mean, in practise it is the same.
And, again, I don't see Nintendo pushing the sterioscopic 3D gimmick again. And neither the two-screen console. Not every gimmick has to appear on every future console after all.
I still remember how people insisted that Nintendo would make another handheld console compleatly separated from the Switch to go alongside it. Now the conversation shifted to the Switch mini (where it makes more sense) but I still don't understand why some people pushed for that idea. I mean, the main thing of the Switch is that it is a hybrid console, a console that can be handheld and home console. How Nintendo would sell an exclusive less powerful only handheld console compleatly separated from the Switch alongside it? And how would they support those two consoles at once?
I guess people just see that, because they love the 3DS, it has to have new games forever and the only successors possible are the ones that have the same design philosophy behind it.
@Leej07 How dare people want a Nintendo game on the newest Nintendo platform!
I mean, I see your point. But I also ask: why make games for a system where it is not going to sell that well when you have another one that needs to build it's library a little more (since it is newer)? Even if those exact games don't go on Switch, the developers and money used on making 3DS games that don't sell a lot could be used for making Switch games that could sell more.
I understood the games that were released in 2017 and kinda 2018 too. But at this point... it just seems pointless. And they said they will make games beyond 2019...
@grupvilla That's the thing, though. At this point, it's dirt cheap to put things on 3DS. It requires very little effort, and I can assure you, it's definitely not taking away that many people from Switch development.
The biggest argument everybody has is that it's taking people away from the Switch, but it's actually not. For every one person working on the 3DS, there's still ten people working on the Switch.
Anyway, I don't argue that the 3DS is dying, but it's not totally dead. I think it can last through the end of this year at least.
My hot take is that Nintendo is keeping the 3DS around because they've realized parents aren't buying a Switch for each of their kids, the same way they did with the DS and 3DS, and so Nintendo is trying to figure out a way to hold onto that still fairly lucrative kid to preteen market.
My prediction is sometime within the next year the penny will drop, and Nintendo will reveal some new kind of more portable and cheaper handheld ONLY device in an attempt to keep that market.
We shall see, though.
@grupvilla By proper successor I mean a handheld ONLY console. The Switch can go anywhere but it is first and foremost a home console. A handheld only console can't connect to a TV and doesn't have the power of a current Gen console like the Switch. The 3DS needs a proper successor and NOT a handheld wannabe.
@Thundertron55 It's not going to happen. The Switch already has a mainline Pokemon (games that are only for portables). Making an exclusively portable console now, with the Switch on the market makes no sense. Sure, the Switch is not as portable as the 3DS but, to be honest, I don't think that would change anything.
@Leej07 They won't. That would actually damage the Switch. What I think is that they would try to make the Switch cheaper.
Also, the 3DS is taking resources that could go into making Switch games. That is a fact. Making 3DS games require resources, Nintendo has to put the resources, those resources don't go into making Switch games. Therefore the 3DS is taking resources out that could go into making Switch games.
@Leej07 I mean, sure. But imagine if they make a Golden Sun remake on 3DS (that would obviously sell poorly). That is what I'm fearing, that games that would sell more and look better being stuck on 3DS.
@grupvilla If Nintendo doesn't have a cheaper alternative to the Switch that appeals to more casual gamers and younger gamers then the company will lose players and customers. Also, the Switch is still designed to be a home console first and handheld second. Plus, what about the people who don't have a TV? They can't get everything out of the Switch without one. And TV mode isn't just image quality, It's power, more accessories/controllers, better internet connection, etc. Nintendo needs to have a 100% dedicated handheld game system that isn't the Switch to get in younger players and introduce them to the world of Nintendo and to provide a unique play experience that you can't get on Switch. For example, on the 3DS you can use the bottom screen to have more functionality for certain games. The Wii U even had a bottom screen for this. If the Switch wasn't a thing then there might have been more functionality for BOTW like in the 2014 Game Awards build. The Switch is a great console but it is designed for more serious gamers with a little bit of casualness thrown in. The handheld consoles provide a unique experience that you can't have on Switch and provide a better gateway into Nintendo.
1. The Switch is not going to be at the same price forever. The DS was cheaper than the 3DS (even after the big price cut they did) and the DS died anyway.
2. Sure, the Switch is not as portable as the 3DS technically but that doesn't mean that it is not a portable. That's like saying that the original DS wasn't portable because the GameBoy Micro was smaller and easier to take with you. The DS was portable and the Switch is as well. And if you use the excuse of "you can play the Switch on the TV" well... Does that mean that mobile phones that can do the exact same thing the Switch can (connecting to a TV) are not mobile phone anymore? Of course not. The Switch is a portable. That is a fact.
3. The entire point of the Switch is to have the same experience on the go than in your house. The cut in power is compensated by the resolution of the portable mode, the Switch still has wifi outside docked mode (and the majority of people probably connect to the internet on the Switch using wifi since the dock doesn't have an integrated ethernet port) and so on. This excuse is probably one of the worse I've seen. There are not a lot of people that would buy the Switch without TV and, even if they don't have a TV, the Switch works well in handheld mode.
4. Nintendo design consoles for EVERYONE. Look at games like Labo, Fitness Boxing or Go Vacation (all of them published by Nintendo on Switch). Do you really think "serious gamers" is the only target audience the Switch has? The only thing that keeps the 3DS alive is that it is cheap and that can only get you so far (just look how much hardware and software sales of 3DS declined compared to 2016-2017). The Switch is not going to stay at the same price forever and the cheapness of the 3DS can't push units infinately. It will die. And having lower and lower sales is proof of that. That was the point of this article. Not that the 3DS is suddendly a bad console (like some people say when it is brought up that it wil die soon). The thing is, the successor of the 3DS is out now (for two years at this point) and sales of the 3DS are showing that more and more.
1. According to the reveal for the Switch it is a home gaming console with the portability of a handheld. "Introducing Nintendo Switch! In addition to providing single and multiplayer thrills at home, the Nintendo Switch system also enables gamers to play the same title wherever, whenever and with whomever they choose. The mobility of a handheld is now added to the power of a home gaming system to enable unprecedented new video game play styles."
2. I did not say the 3DS shouldn't die. I said it needs a proper successor.
3. Did the Wii U go down in price? If not, why should the Switch.
4. TV mode allows the opportunity to have a BETTER internet connection and more controllers. Without the dock how would all the 3rd party wired controllers work? How could you have 8-player Smash? How would you have couch co-op in general? If a Switch mini were to be released, it would probably not have Joy-Cons getting rid of multiplayer.
5. I didn't say it was 100% for serious gamers but that is the main audience. Also, everyone means that anyone can play the console which is true but not everyone can play the content Nintendo is putting out. The 3DS and other handheld Nintendo consoles have very easy and pick up and play games while the consoles have more time dedicating games. The Switch is not the Wii or the Wii U, it is a console that targets older people and this is even shown in the trailers where most of the people playing are in their twenties or older. The commercials for the 3DS, however, feature younger kids like 5th graders and pre-teens.
6. Please don't reply. I'm tired of having to write these explanations. Have a good day and may the Light illuminate your path.
The 3DS has got an impressively LARGE library of fantastic and quirky titles. That's what I loved so much about the 3DS, it had so many amazing exclusives whereas the Switch is drowning in re-releases that the Switch is quickly losing its identity.
@Honelith What are you even saying? So if a console has rereleases it loses it's identity?
@Thundertron55 The 3DS has a proper successor. The Nintendo Switch. It even has Pokemon on it. I already said that.
The Wii U actually did went down in price. Once. They just didn't do that again because they felt it wouldn't help the sales enough to cover the price of cutting down the price again. But, how many times did the 3DS went down? Specially with revisions of the 3DS hardware.
Also if you didn't want any responses then why did you comment in the first place?
By the way, to all the people saying that the 3DS should still be supported with a lot of new releases. The 3DS missed the sales target Nintendo had for it (one taht was already quite down) by 55%. Just saying...
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