If you keep tabs on the competition, you will have no doubt have heard about the PlayStation Classic. Following Nintendo's success with NES and SNES Classic systems, Sony decided to release a miniature version of its own legacy hardware.
Unfortunately, this particular system hasn't lived up to expectations, with an underwhelming library of games due to licensing issues and some odd design choices. If that wasn't enough, tech experts have found a lot of the games are the slower PAL versions and a list of far more exciting games that aren't actually on the system have even been referenced in the source code. It's safe to say, the system's release has done more harm than good at this point.

If that wasn't already enough, a video by YouTube channel 8 Bit Flashback has now uploaded the above video of a hacked SNES Classic Mini running PSX games and doing a much better job at it than the PlayStation Classic. On paper, the PS Classic should be the more powerful system, but with the specific game tested - Ridge Racer Type 4 - this is not the case.
The SNES Classic is running the PCSX ReARMed emulator with Retroarch, which is the same one as the PS Classic, except without Retroarch. The video notes how Ridge Racer was one of the worst games to play on the PS Classic. On the SNES, though, a number of aspects of the game are improved - including the controls. The SNES controller actually does a better job steering than Sony's original pad does. 8 Bit Flashback even got Tekken 3 running on the SNES Classic, but admittedly had some issues with the sound.
The summary is, Sony designed a system that can "barely" play its own games. In contrast, the SNES Classic is packing additional power to ensure it can handle its own collection of games.
Are you even more impressed with the SNES Classic Mini now? Tell us down below.
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I guess Sony should retroactively go 3rd party and port their PS Classic games to the SNES Classic...
The PlayStation Classic was a mistake.
I don't think Sony actually designed this system. I believe they outsourced it but are not telling anyone who it was. You would think they could've did a better job then what was put together.
I just hope Sony takes notes from their mistake and give us a definitive PS2 Mini in the future. Knowing how arrogant they often are, I somehow doubt it though.
Still- I know I’m not the only one wanting a PS2 Mini...
I haven't had a chance to check the video, but my question is, how well did the game run on the original Playstation?
With emulation you can make a game run faster than its original and not be burdened by PAL slowdown etc. So it would need to be a fair comparison.
How many different ways can this thing be beaten down...by itself?
@Prizm If you access the emulator settings, you can force PAL to run 60 fps. But the emulator is badly optimized.
I was under the impression the PS Classic was more powerful. Just had a poor emulator?
I would laugh if I wasn't genuinely disappointed in the PS Classic. I preferred the SNES and N64 over the original PlayStation back in the day, but it still had some quality games that you just don't have access to with the PS Classic. It's pathetic that Sony's competition can run their games better on the same type of legacy mini console they stole the idea from.
@Mrtoad So was anime!!
Nintendo = Seal of Quality
Sony = Seal of Mediocrelity
@WaveBoy I'm sorry, but I own both the mini NES and SNES. I did comparisons with my actual NES/SNES hardware and couldn't tell the difference, side by side. What input lag are you referencing? I'm using wired controllers on both systems, btw.
Between this, Fallout 76 and Diablo Immortal I think it is safe to say that this has been one of the most controversial year for gaming.
@goggles789 Sometimes it comes down to tv you are using. Our enthusiastic friend may have a tv that doesn't play nice with the SNES mini. Or you don't notice microscopic input lag. Either or. haha
Sony should have just used those PS TVs they had stockpiled and rebranded it as Playstation Classic since they played most digital Ps1,Psp and Vita games. It was $100 with a dual shock 3 and a copy of the Lego Movie
@goggles789 “Anime Swordsmen were a mistake” -Someone I knew after seeing how many Fire Emblem characters there were in Smash Wii U.
@Forill 1993: "Hold my beer."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_congressional_hearings_on_video_games
@Prizm If you want to know how the playstation classic compares to the original playstation, I recommend you watch Digital Foundry's analysis on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU0dn9pRKuw
Basically, they said the emulation was so poor, it could hurt our perception of "how games were back then".
So yeah. Emulation is worse than original hardware in this case.
@Mrtoad You should see how many Fire Emblem characters people are making in Soul Calibur 6!
If the ball was dropped any harder, it would have made a hole so long it reached China.
@Anti-Matter
"Nintendo = Seal of Quality
Sony = Seal of Mediocrelity"
Anti-Matter = Seal of Hatred
Oh this is bad Sony cheaped out on the hardware, hoping to make an easy buck on the retro console trend. They had better do a recall and fix this.
@WaveBoy I've had no lag issues on systems/devices sufficiently powerful to run the emulators with actually well optimized emulation software.
I alway find it funny that the retro consoles do not have some kind of game card slot or e-store that allow for more purchases.
The PlayStation Classic could just have be a nice platform for the PlayStation Now.
The PS Classic hardware is much more powerful than the NES/SNES Classic. The software and configuration is to blame.
Compare specs...
SNES Classic:
Allwinner R16 SoC processor
CPU: 4Core ARM Cortex-A7 CPU @1.2GHz
GPU: ARM Mali 400 MP2 GPU
MEMORY: 256MB of DDR3 memory
STORAGE: 512MB of NAND Flash Storage
PlayStation Classic:
MediaTek MT8167A SoC processor
CPU: 4Core ARM Cortex A35 CPU @1.5GHz
GPU: PowerVR GE8300 GPU
MEMORY: 1GB DDR3 RAM (1866MHz)
STORAGE: 16GB eMMC NAND memory 2018 VGO
My modded Snes Classic is packed with 7500 classic games including 275 psone games and almost the entire Sega CD Library as a few highlights!! It’s sooo amazing I bought 3 of them and place them throughout the house!!! 😃
Sony picked the worst time to try and pull a Nintendo and use underpowered hardware in one of their machines
So glad I cancelled me pre-order for this
I only wanted Metal Gear Solid on the PSone Classic. I’m glad I got a SNES mini instead
@itslukec @goggles789 @WaveBoy - I have been using emulators since NESticle, and I have never seen input lag on the mature emulators I've used. Though most of the time I was using a PC monitor.
TV mode and wireless controllers will be your biggest lag culprit these days.
@Spoony_Tech Probably begins with A, and ends with tGames.
@RedMageLanakyn : "For the gamers" indeed. XD
God, it makes me cringe every time I hear that ridiculous slogan. It's so bloody pretentious.
@WaveBoy I am calling you out on this. Playeressence, RTUSA, RGT85, Dreamcastguy, IGN, Gamespot and plenty who own it say that it doesn't have the lag like you claim. So, the PS classic is not good and making false claims against the SNES mini won't change that.
So much for 60 FPS lovers.
They might have limited the frame rate to fit the original PSOne.
They definitely just tried to cash in.
I was hoping they'd actually value this thing and uphold their reputation through quality. But... just couldn't do it. Had to cancel.
The problem with the PS Classic as a concept is that there are simply too many games. Whilst the SNES had lots of great games, the number of true “Classics” in people’s eyes are more limited so you could make a product like the SNES Classic that covered a good proportion of the system’s greatest titles (not all obviously but a good set). In contrast, the PS1 had a plethora of classic titles and expanded the horizons in genres and licensing. This means the micro console would need like 50-60 games minimum just to cover a good number of its classics whilst covering multiple genres.
Kinda mental.
And suggests the tech used for the SNES Classic is pretty much sorted for playing N64 Classic games too, should Nintendo get around to that at some point.
Don't go too cheap on your cheap cashgrabs, yo, or it'll damage your brand more so than cement it.
Anyway, both look awful.
They should change the name to the playstation not very classic but somehow i don't think that will sell lol.
The only good Sony mini was released years ago called the PSone. I have it and love it.
Its such a same the PS classic was a rush job. I had one pre ordered from the initial announcement but the more that was revealed, the less interested and hype I became.
Cancelled the pre order and I'm glad I did which is a shame as their definitely should be a representation of the Sony PlayStation with the quality of the NES and SNES classic.
Sony should have took its time, building an emulator in house to show off its games to their fullest potential. Instead all this product did was harm any good will the consumer if they do decide to revise or even bring out a PS2 classic.
God I hope the mega drive classic is better.
Meaby Sony could have asked Nintendo to make the playstation classic instead.
So.... is this the SNES CD CLASSIC?
the playstation classic is a turd.
what's even better is with some certain keyboards you can get into the system and basically do whatever you want.
i wonder if the arm chip is slower than what N used or just the emulator is that bad. i know sony just basically used an open source emulator so i dunno how well that thing works.
This was interesting. Maybe instead of the PS Mini they should've created it as the "SNES CD Mini" add-on for the SNES Mini it was meant to do in the first place all those years ago lol
now Sony might try to bribe Nintendo into making a SNES/playstation mini classic.
@FX102A PS Classic's problem isn't that there were "too many classic games". The problem is they seem to have carefully avoided attaching any classic games so as not to interfere with any current, future, or potential plans to resell those same titles to core console owners. It's a PS1 classic missing Crash and Spyro for crying out loud.
@Spoony_Tech Clearly they didn't put any effort into this, got someone cheap to do it, while they charge it for $100....
They might of done this to help their claim no cares about old gen games whenever anyone brings up the lack of PS1 and backwards compatible..
This..this headline made me laugh soo much.
@Prizm Exactly. I was thinking the other poster was using wireless pads or something.
insert random hate about the SNES Classic and that the PS1 Classic is the best thing ever, Nintendo is doomed or whatever
@WaveBoy
Woosh...
Joking aside, I didn't know the SNES Classic could play 3D games...might try loading a few DS games and see how that goes. (mainly one that doesn't require the touch screen, obviously, lol)
Looks like the Nintendo Playstation is a reality after all
@WaveBoy lol your so wrong.lol I don't have a input lag lol
@FX102A You could make a PS1 Classic that features real classics with only 30 games. Want Proof? I'll do a list right now.
1. Final Fantasy VII
2. Crash Bandicoot
3. Spyro the Dragon
4. Tekken 3
5. Jumping Flash 2
6. Soul Edge
7. Grand Theft Auto
8. Metal Gear Solid
9. Mega Man X4
10. Mega Man Legends
11. Final Fantasy Tactics
12. Resident Evil: Director's Cut
13. Dino Crisis
14. Cool Borders 2
15. Twisted Metal 2
16. Tomb Raider
17. Silent Hill
18. Parasite Eve
19. Street Fighter Alpha 2
20. Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
21. Pac-Man World
22. Wild Arms
23. Doom
24. Syphon Filter
25. R4: Ridge Racer Type 4
26. Wild Arms
27. Legend of Dragoon
28. Rayman
29. Mortal Kombat Trilogy
30. Oddworld: Abe's Odyssey.
So, while this may not be a perfect list, I do think most of these games are must-play classics on the PS1. The problem is not the sheer number of games, all other retro systems like the NES, SNES, and Genesis share the same problem.
The issue is that most of the classics are missing on the PS1 classic. Not have Crash or Spyro on the PS1 Classic is like Nintendo putting out a retro system with no Mario games.
I’m seriously starting to regret buying my brother one of these for Christmas...
When i played it the first time i thought it was horrible, even when standing still everything on screen moved lol. The only thing i liked where the cutscenes.
@Anti-Matter Nintendo has not had the seal of quality since the Wii era. It is now just "official Nintendo seal".
Trust Nintendo to beat Sony for Power 20 years too late right enough...
@WaveBoy Analogue systems are the best option for modern play.
Embarrassing for Sony, a company that prides itself on making the best spec video game consoles. Getting outdone by Nintendo, who don't.
@WaveBoy : While there certainly is a touch of lag in the SNES Classic, it's nowhere near as game-breaking as other solutions outside of the aforementioned FPGA clones or a real CRT. The performance is quite remarkable. In most games, it's imperceptible. Now, the NES Classic performs less admirably, and a game like Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! is nearly impossible once you combine the display lag with the emulation lag, which is worse than the SNES Classic.
@WaveBoy You got proof they are? I am sure only you have the right info. Lol (rolls eyes).
@Shane76 My winning compact/easy PS1 emulation system is the PlayStation TV, which plays PSN games (Suikoden II, Persona 2, etc.) though you have to use expensive PSVita memory cards. The PS3 is bulkier but handles both PSN games and physical discs and uses the HDD for storage.
@Caryslan Nice list. I mean... just looking at classic JRPGs, you could make an amazing list of PS1 releases. Consider Final Fantasy: 7/8/9/Tactics/Origins/Anthology/Chronicles... and at least a dozen more worthwhile series.
I was going to pre-order it, but decided to wait till more games were revealed. The list is...uninspiring and I could get a bunch of them on my PS3 instead. The only reason to get this is to have a tiny PS next to my NES/SNES Classics, N64, and OG Xbox.
This is epic trolling!
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