These Larger, Cheaper Third-Party Switch Joy-Con Promise Improved Grip And Customisation

If they aren't even designed to fit on the Switch why bother with the awkward stick/button placings?

They don't even have the rail to connect on to the switch. Quite an oversight there.

What's the point if they can't fit on the switch? Might as well just get a pro controller, or one of those SN30 things.

All Con and no Joy makes Shigeru a daruboi.

Ahhh Nyko. The manufacturer which holds the record for most Switch bricked with their portable dock.
Also those controllers look horrible and I only trust 1st party controllers regardless of the console.

I might have considered this if they worked in handheld mode. I really don't see the point.

They look kind of cute. But don't people only use the JoyCon when there are literally no other options available?

Be nice if Nintendo did that soon.

They don't work in handheld mode, and they don't have a normal d pad. The only reason I'd consider using third party joy cons is for a normal d pad that has swapped places with the left joy con.

If they slide onto the Switch, I’m all for third-party JoyCon’s. But those that don’t? Just no.

I don’t think I’ve bought a third party controller since my N64. There’s always been something I don’t want to give up, be it comfort or a first party feature

They look like something you would find for some cheap Chinese knock-off console.

When I first saw them I was like “What in Twelve Types of quick drying cement are those?!?!”

Then I read the article, saw their aim, how they can’t lock onto the Switch, design; and I still haven’t changed my initial reaction!

I feel like I’m missing something.

The Nyko Dualies sounds like a weapon from Splatoon instead of a Joy Con replacement...

They’ve got the grip but they don’t look fitting

Sounds like they'd be good for Mario Party or Pokemon Let's Go, possibly.

Interesting. Ergonomically friendly?

Good and bad...

About the product

## Accurate, multi-functional motion control
Very helpful in game playing
## Rumble feedback
Helps game feedback feel
## Improved ergonomics providing a more comfortable grip
Good
## Includes a Type-C and detachable thumb sticks
Good but also bad it doesn't connect to rail

No connection on rails makes this a hard deal to buy if your going portable.

I'm surprised at the number of comments talking about how useless these would be because they don't slide onto the console for handheld mode.

I thought the purpose behind these being made were pretty obvious, as started in the article:

"users with larger hands, in particular, have struggled to get a good grip on the Joy-Con, sometimes experiencing cramps when having to hold them in certain ways. Well, these new third-party offerings are aiming to fix that, and we're certainly intrigued by their design."

These are clearly meant for those who want to use the Joy-con while playing on the tv and detached from the grip, like in games such as Mario Party, Pokemon Lets Go or other multiplayer games where each person has one Joy-Con each.

The larger size option isn't meant to be pretty, but there are a number who would certainly welcome a larger size for sure.

I'ts not a joy-con replacement if it can't slide on the switch rails...

@mandlecreed Exactly, if they aren't snapping into the Switch, why not just use Pro controllers instead?

@HobbitGamer those third party 64 controllers were terrible weren't they? Let's get rid of the grips and make it thicker!

Yeah if I can't.play in portable theres no point.

If someone literally cut a pro controller in half and had it attach to the console they would print money.

They look sleek, but I have no problems with the normal Joy-Con, so no thanks.

Bizarre.

If they just had a sturdy rail, they'd make a lot of sense for handheld mode. As they are, they appear as a product that has to make an effort to look like they go with a Switch at all.

@The_Pixel_King
It's an alternative inexpensive way to get the required number of Joy-Cons to play a proper 4 player couch game of Mario Party

These would not work in handheld mode either way beceause the buttons and sticks are distributed evenly through the controller. It would be a waste of effort and resources to make them connect to the unit.

As someone else mentioned, I’m fairly certain they’re meant to be for playing docked games that support single joycon use.

They look like frag grenades lol

What's the point if it doesn't even attach to the switch?

I don't see the point of these new joycons. Yes, the current joycons are too small but there are 2 grips I bought for $10 that make them easier to hold. Joycon grips are a much cheaper solution to this problem.

@NinjaWaddleDee Because more and more games are starting to force you to use Joy Cons. Ala Maria Party and Pokémon.

If they made these shaped like a regular controller I would instantly buy 4 of them. The Joy Cons suck for Mario Party and Pokémon. Motion controls are garbage unless it’s true 1-1 tracking like Oculas. Plus the right Joy Cons have major connection issues if you’re more than 6 feet from the Switch.

I wonder how well these would work for Mario Party. I just wish they were "cuter" and not so "hardcore" looking.

I dig the look but how comfortable are they?

I’d buy them. It’s unfortunate that Mario party and Pokémon let’s go force you to use a horrible control scheme instead of allowing use of the pro controller. These are made for this type of game.

Damn I got super excited until I read it doesn't slide unto the Switch itself?! Pass.

Man, what I wouldn't give for Nintendo to make some XL or XXL joy cons for those of us who have large hands. I just can't play the Switch in handheld mode without cramping up within minutes.

@Rhaoulos surely that's Nintendo with their "release a patch that stops third party things working" shenanigans?

Meh. Ill stick to the official stuff.
My hands seem a bit too small for these anyway.

Not bad, but for that price I could just buy another Pro Controller...

Isn't this ideal for mario party? Considering I've just bought it, might be interesting.

Then again, having proper joy con to switch around on the go is awesomer.

At the price of a single joycon, I can imagine a few cheapo kids buying them for playing smash with friends. (I used to buy $5-15 3rd party controllers for my GameCube or PS2 as a kid) these are pretty ugly though and I can’t imagine using them past Smash or Mario Party

I'd actually be interested in bigger, more ergonomically friendly joy con controllers that could attach to the console. By not attaching, these just seem like tiny controllers.

Big, ugly, and not mountable for handheld play. So they're just a separate controller. That you use only when docked. Why....not just use the pro controller? or the joycon grip in the box? Or just buy a little hand grip to put your joycon in.

Why does this exist?

I play mostly with separated Joy-Cons and wriststrap and have absolutely no problems. The only thing I wouldn't say no to, is an off-centered right controlstick. And since this pair of Joy-Con hasn't it either, I don't really care about them.

@DrJiggle
Maybe. I use the Joy-Cons most of the time.

Mmmm....chunky. It solves a problem, just not one I've experienced.

I'm good, 8bitdo what Nintendon't.

Nyko Dapple Dualies when?

they are so badly designed taht they can brick your wirsts XD

If these work with Mario Party, then I might get them. I need two more Joy-cons but they're so expensive

If you're lucky you can get a new pair of joy cons for around the same price.
This looks unnecessary.

Another missing it has no NFC options. So that rules that out.

@Hordak then you need a grip case.

This have me interested. Looking for an extra pair of Joy-Con for occasional co-op with friends, but the official one is so expensive.
This might be a good cheaper alternative.

Putting the con in joy-con

This is an epic fail.

They don’t attach to the Switch, which defeats the purpose. I can totally dig a separate set that doesn’t attach for at home, but it dang well better improve on the base joycon with Dpad and upper right analog (although the current layout IS better for games relying on face buttons like platformers and RPGs, it would be nice to swap analog to above the buttons for FPS games with motion such as DOOM or Wolfenstein 2 or even Warframe). And, no Dpad either, when that’s a distinct advantage they could have opted for (and again, the buttons are superior when using as actual buttons which many games do, but for certain games it would be better to have a Dpad)

@Dan_Dan It isn't a replacement, they are meant to be extra for people who like detached joy-cons but have big hands. I am not going to buy these because I like my joy-cons already.

So many people missing the point. These have my interest because I used the joycons detached and found them to cause pain in my hands for the next few days. I thought it was due to more physical activity at work, but once I gave the Switch a break my hands felt better. The joycons are simply too small with buttons too close together for me for anything more demanding than Mario Party. These may solve that problem. It's really not that complicated and for two controllers for some games it's a great price. It will be interesting to see how they review.

So if these don't go onto the switch which is pointless, then they are just two small controllers. If they are just two small controllers then why keep the awkward positioning of the analogue?? A literally pointless design. Make them slightly bigger still and move the analogue across. if these were bigger and fitted onto the switch it would of been a great idea. How do people come up with such nonsense and actually make it into production.

@Sabroni Actually no. If I remember correctly, the Nyko portable dock fiasco began before the brick updates.
I was lucky Nyko didn't release it in the UK because I would have messed up my Switch.

Honestly just need to get a Wii U adapter to play my Wii u controllers on Switch...

@duffmmann Ya, Joycon are uncomfortable as is, after like 30 mins in handheld my hands fall asleep, damn asian sized devices! companies need to start creating controllers for generations moving forward, the vast majority of gamers will develop carpel tunnel at some point and it is time they start making controllers to adjust for this.

Definitely not for me, but I can see plenty of scenarios where they'd be useful. Playing Mario Kart 8 or Mario Party locally are probably the best examples - holding an individual Joycon, even with the bumper on, is really not a great experience for a lot of people, and buying numerous Pro Controllers as an alternative, or dual joy cons with grips, is a very cost prohibitive method!

I might actually check these out when they come out for a review. Need more joycons just for Mario Party, so the cheaper price is nice.

I see them as controllers, and not Joy-Cons. So basically you're getting two controllers for 49.99. For games like Mario Party and other multiplayer games I actually see value in these. Then again, you can get third-party Pro Controllers for 20-25 dollars but they can't be used in every game.

They're ugly and blocky, and they don't even snap on to your switch. Just get a pro controller or one of it's many versions instead of this, these are useless.

I guess its just a 50$ way to make Mario Odyssey more comfortable with detached joycons, But man that's not a compelling enough reason :l

The only game mode were I want the joy cons to have more comfy grips are in handheld mode, not tabletop. So Nyko helps just about zero, as usual. I would pay big money for a pair of 100% function joycons w/ rails, rumble, bluetooth AND comfy grips plus d-pad and symmetric sticks.

All hail the new "Dog Bone" controllers. Shame they are ugly as hell. I wouldn't even use them as the second controller for someone I hated.

Looks A Bit Uncomfortable

@RupeeClock A grip probably ruins the HD Rumble.