Video: Here Are 10 New Switch Games Coming To Nintendo Switch In May

Erm 50% of the games are ports, therefore not new.

@Bunkerneath Consdering just 3 people in the world actually bought a WiiU i consider this games as new, tbh.

@Faruko Well i must be one of the three

I'll be picking up Hyrule Warriors... AGAIN... when I get the chance. I sold off my Wii U and never really cared to much for the 3DS version so being able to play it on console again with all of the content will be great.

The game does have A LOT of content and yes, it can get very repetitive as a lot of the scenarios are just "Go here, side with this dude, maybe side with this dude I don't know" but I've always felt it's repetition with reward. You might not be able to get what you want on your first run but you are still given materials and EXP for doing it so it's not all a loss.

The one thing I'm hoping for is for them to NOT add any more DLC, I bought both games on the Wii U and 3DS and the season passes for both, I would be upset if they added more DLC.

Unless it's Byrne from Spirit Tracks then GIMME GIMME GIMME

@Faruko But a good amount of them are ports from other consoles. Tropical Freeze is the one that will be new for most people without a Wii U.
I think HW Legends was quite popular on 3DS so that's not really new either...

Only really have my eye on Immortal Redneck... and maybe Disco Dodgeball

EDIT: Oooh and Smoke and Sacrifice (may 31st) for sure, has some great Don't Starve vibes

@Bunkerneath To be fair, the video was labelled new Switch games as opposed to just new games. I agree that the lack of actually new games is a disappointment. The indies do well to fill the gaps between the ports, but these aren't reasons to buy a new console.

These Wi U ports are fine. The only problem is their price which is not a big issue because they are almost new games.

Couldn't make a list for those of us that didn't want to watch a video?

@Shellcore To be honest, it kinda was for me, okey Botw and odyssey did help, but i have so little time overall that the switch is perfect for me, is strong, is portable, can be docked for the little time i have when i'm home. and Some ports just feel weird to play on my PC (or PS4/XB1 for all that matters)

So i take with me and play in the train or in the dead times i have at work, honestly, if it wasn't for the Switch i would not be able to play games that much anymore, life saver... so ports for me are great, even if i already have them on my PC.

Is just that, between girlfriend, work, gym, and life, I just don't really have that much time so being able to pick it up, turn it on and restart my game independently where i am is amazing, sure 3DS could do the same but it was too underpowered nowadays.

@blackbox64 Hyrule warriors Switch is 1080p at 60fps.
I don't know why Nintendo haven't made this clear in the West though....

@Faruko I can't deny the attractiveness of taking these games on the go. Glad you are enjoying it : ) I guess portability doesn't normally factor into my buying decisions, so my reason for buying a Switch would be for first party games and new IP. Ports and indies are great as long as they aren't the main course. That's my view anyway.

I wish Nintendo bothered to add extra value in DK. It’s the first port that isn’t a "deluxe" or "definitive" or anything else. Nothing extra is included except for an easy mode (Funky Kong) and for that they want an extra $10. The Wii U version retailed at only $50 (although now you can get it for $20). Why is the Switch version $10 more at $60?

Another meh for me. Come on ninty 😢

Only one I’m getting is the Street Fighter Collection. I don’t have a lot of free money and birthdays to buy presents for. Sometimes I hate being an adult lol

Anyone ever watch Star Wars on Bly-ray? The godfather?

When they released them on DVD did everyone just say port port port over and over...... did they do the same on Blu-ray? 4K?

It’s getting really boring when switch get games from other consoles people just repeat port over and over....

Buy them or don’t buy them....

Doom
Skyrim
Donkey King CTF
Mario kart
Wolfenstein
Resident Evil Chronicles

These are some of the great games I’m glad we have on the switch.....

Port
Port
Port....

It’s all getting a bit old.

I don’t want a console that only has Nintendo originals and it’s release date and issues with differing hardware mean we might get games after they land on PS4/XBOX1 but doesn’t mean we have to chant port port port on every thread

On topic I’ve got

Donkey Kong, SF collection and hyrule all preordered

@Faruko there's more than 3 people commenting on this very article that own a Wii U. Hell, almost everyone that visits this site owns or has owned a Wii U. Stop painting a narrative that isn't true in an attempt at making switch seem more appealing than it is.

@Stocksy Donkey King CTF (Capture the Flag?) sounds awesome ; )

Considering that the Switch has already outsold the U, I think porting U games isn't a bad idea. They definitely shouldn't have been more than $40, though. Any of them that became $20 select games should've stayed at $20.

"You'll have to watch the video to see the rest" nah I'll look up a list elsewhere

@Faruko i just cannot bring myself to fully understand the argument of 'well i'm just so busy that the switch and its portability is perfect for me'. I feel as though you're either busy and occupied with other things or you're sitting around in a public place staring at a screen playing a game just as you would at home in front of your TV.

Now, let's say you're going on a flight, or a long car ride where you're not the driver. Other than that I just don't follow.

@Faruko Amen, brother! I couldn't have said it better: you just described my very own situation. And I'd like to add that all those ports are a godsend to me, since I never owned a WiiU - but I understand people asking for brand new tiles at the same time.

No games there interest me part from runner 3 lol I own the WiiU ones I'm not paying through the nose again for the eggsact same games I butcherd years ago... And there is a drought again!!! Ninty said it wouldn't happen but it has! I not bought a Switch game since xeno 2, 6 months of nothing!!! I've been getting so into indie eshop games

Can't wait to July to buy Octopath traveler and my Switch.

@Stocksy If Star Wars came to a Nintendo branded Blu Ray player, this site would be claiming that it was technically a new movie as most people didn't own a VCR....and charge more for it.

@Faruko What is with this constant downplaying of the Wii U sales numbers. Some of you act like the Wii U is a threat to the Switch.

I find it hilarious that the Wii U was apparently so 'ill fated' and 'only 3 people ever bought one' yet 90% of the new switch releases are Wii U ports so now these games are accceptable and cool? I still play my Wiiu regularly and I'm sure that a lot of other people do to. I intend to buy a switch at some point but will certainly not deride wii u gamers or look down on them with such snobbery as other users of this site seem to do as it's a quality little console with a top class games library and it will remain part of my collection along with it's Nes, snes, n64, gameboy, GC and Wii siblings!

I own a Wii U and I would love it if every decent game made for the system was ported to the Switch...but no port should cost the same or more than the original, that's just wrong.

I only played Hyrule Warriors briefly on Wii U and never on 3DS, so that game is practically new to me and I'm interested in it, so that is probably the one game coming out that interests me enough to buy.

@eaglebob345 Considering that the Switch has already outsold the U, I think porting U games isn't a bad idea.

Oh stop, people thought porting Wii U games was a good idea from the beginning. At first the excuse was 'it helps fill in the gaps' and now it's 'well since the Switch has outsold the Wii U'. Give it a rest.

Here's a thought for you. What if a large part of the Switch's sales are because of the Wii U ports (including Zelda)?

@gatorboi352 speaking for myself, i have 2 hours of dead time on the train on my way to the office and back home, monday to friday. Then again, when I'm done with my daily work I have to wait for the train to arrive, and that's another 20-25 minutes.
So it's almost 2.5h I can spend playing my Switch instead of, let's say, sleeping or listening to music (which I also like a lot, btw).

@gatorboi352 To be fair though Mr Boi, all the people commenting on this site make up for less than 0.01% of the user base of Switch.

Tons of "meh" 2nd tier stuff - and overpriced ports.

Yakuza6 for home and Battle Chasers for my commute (NL skipped it AGAIN?) is still the plan.

Little Nightmare is a blast if not played it yet - art is amazing. Naruto Collection is a great bang for the buck at 39.99

@Stocksy Thanks for the clairvoyance !
Doom, LA Noire and many "old" indies are delighting me on Switch.

@RetroGamerAndrew ...or playing your 3DS or Vita? Its like the Switch has caused people to forget that other handhelds exist.

I see people are still whining about ports.......

Didn't bother me in the first 2 years of PS4's life, doesn't bother me now.

@Crono1973 Well rest assured that's not my case! I own (and played the s**t out of) basically every iteration of Nintendo and Sony handhelds starting from the old thick-as-a-brick Game Boy: only exception is the PS Vita, which I will grab sooner or later (love the jRPG lineup)... but not now, I already have far more games on my Switch than I'll ever have the chance to play...

Could you not have just listed them in the article, christ

@gatorboi352 fallacious argument. People who play handheld / portable consoles aren’t just standing around in public places playing games. A significant number of those people have lengthy train rides to and from work every day, during which time they’re unable to do all the things that need doing at home, like cooking or laundry, or helping the kids with their homework. Gaming while commuting is an effective use of time, especially for a lovely commuter.

@Crono1973 exactly. I played Alliance Alive on my commute last few weeks - great game and I got an ArtBook for pre-ordering it.

@gatorboi352 @RetroGamerAndrew @gaga64

"Anyone ever watch Star Wars on Bly-ray? The godfather?

When they released them on DVD did everyone just say port port port over and over...... did they do the same on Blu-ray? 4K?"

No its an unusual complaint that is exclusive to gamers. Its a strange environment.

Its also only gamers who get baffled by people wanting portability. Music and film/TV, along with communications, have been on a drive to get their products into peoples pockets for years. From the Walkman to the Gameboy to Ipods then smartphones and tablets.

Nintendo alone have sold over 430 million portable games system

Mobile phone gaming is a multi-billion dollar industry, a couple of firms within it each had revenues of over a billion on their own last year.

Yet we still get gamers surprised that gaming on the go is popular. Its an amazing disconnect from reality.

@Crono1973

"Its like the Switch has caused people to forget that other handhelds exist."

Well yeah. I was a big Vita fan but sold it last May as it was superfluous. I still have a 2DS in a cupboard where its graphics can't hurt my eyes. It'll get passed on to the kids if they're interested in a couple of years.

"What if a large part of the Switch's sales are because of the Wii U ports (including Zelda)?"

That would be a nice illustration of how much Nintendo got right with the Switch and wrong with the Wii U.

@RetroGamerAndrew ok so yeah, this makes plenty of sense.

@gatorboi352
Preach

I am one of those pesky Wii u owners.

The switch is a god send, I can now lie down on the couch and play my favourite games.
Oh wait, I did the same with the U

@electrolite77 you can listen to music while doing other tasks though. If you're playing Breath of the Wild on your switch you're probably not doing other things at the same time.

A list with dates and links would be great.

@Faruko
I love my wii u, just played it this morning. VC Paper Mario.

@gaga64 @gatorboi352 There are also a lot of gamers who play their Switch in handheld mode at home.

I’ve always been more of a handheld gamer and I use my Switch exclusively as a handheld. The dock is still in the box. Have never taken it outside though.

@holygeez03

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/coming-soon/switch/date

how I plan my year 😀

@gaga64 the extended train ride i get, which is why i notated it in my original comment. But the idea of people are "so busy on the go" and have hectic schedules that keep them away from their TVs, and yet, somehow they have the time to play games away from the TV with said hectic schedule and busy days.

@electrolite77 That would be a nice illustration of how much Nintendo got right with the Switch and wrong with the Wii U.

BS, the games make a console worthwhile. The Wii U had good games and the console ran them well. It's like people only care about these games now because they have nothing else to play on their Switch and the same is true for Indie games that have been on every system (including the Wii U) but matter NOW because they are on the Switch.

It's all hype.

A 6 month drought of next to nothing

@Mgene15 and tons of excuses.

And the new nonsensical narrative: You can now play mediocre games at home AND on the go... so everything is fine.

At least there is light at the end of the tunnel starting in Jun. And like every Nintendo console you know there be Gems coming (Metroid, LE) so you stick around.

@gatorboi352 "here's more than 3 people commenting on this very article that own a Wii U. Hell, almost everyone that visits this site owns or has owned a Wii U. Stop painting a narrative that isn't true in an attempt at making switch seem more appealing than it is."

On this site, yeah, that might be correct. But outside of this forum, where Switch has outsold the lifetime sales of the WiiU in a year, it's probably not. I bet most Switch users haven't owned a WiiU. So... speaking of false narratives...

As a non-WiiU owner, these games are all new to me. I for one think there are too many games that I want on the Switch at the moment.

I really enjoyed Ziggurat, but the whole "redneck" theme of RedNeck Rampage scares me away...

@Crono1973

The only BS there is that its all hype, but of course you've seen through it. I love that leaf out of the internet bluffers handbook.

Its sweetly naive to think games are the thing that makes a system worthwhile when clearly theres a lot more to it than that e.g. the hardware. Even then, the Switch library at 14 months absolutely batters the Wii Us at the equivalent point, and indeed much later in its life.

@Faruko @Quarth 13.5 million WiiU, 18 million Switch...how many of that 18 million you wanna bet are diehards that bought 13.5 unpopular WiiUs? I would guess that a huge majority of that 13.5 are Switch owners. Ports are good to fill gaps, but not maintain an exciting release schedule. Let's not underplay this.

@Stocksy If I want port, I would love to have fallout 1,2, tactics and Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel port over to Switch. I stop playing since Fallout 3 onwards, dislike the change of style play.

@gatorboi352
"you can listen to music while doing other tasks though. If you're playing Breath of the Wild on your switch you're probably not doing other things at the same time."

Your mindset about having break time was Very Pathetic !
So what if people playing games on the go in public places ??
Is that wrong in your eyes ??
Go ahead with your stubborness, keep playing with TV, never leave your couch & be a Couch Potato !

@subpopz NL comment sections have taken a nosedive as of late.
It should be against the rules to make a comment like this without giving any details.

@gatorboi352

Maybe not Zelda but Mario Kart, FIFA, Rocket League, Puyo Tetris, even Mario vs Rabbids etc. And the same would apply to TV and film but people do it.

I understand that it can be difficult to empathise with lifestyles you haven't experienced. 15 years ago gaming for me was endless uninterrupted hours of Vice City, Burnout 2 and Jak and Daxter. Back then it was impossible to envisage being 41 with a wife and kids and a job (Air Traffic Control) where shift work is mandatory and destressing on breaks is encouraged.

But whatever my situation the sales figures are there, portables have consistently sold since Nintendo put Tetris on the Gameboy. Go back to Game and Watch and they've been a staple of gaming almost as long as gaming has existed.

@electrolite77 What about the Wii U hardware made games unplayable?

@Crono1973

Who said 'unplayable?' Its simply much less desirable. Start with Switch being portable but more powerful and join the clunky Gamepad-shaped dots from there.

@electrolite77 The Switch being more powerful isn't fair since all consoles are more powerful than their predecessor. The portable part, what did you play last gen if not the Wii U?

@Stocksy I would be happy as hell if the Switch was basically first party Nintendo games and basically ports/remakes of all the games I missed from 360/ps3 and xbone/ps4

@Bunkerneath

Not to the vast majority of gamers of own a Switch but never bought a WiiU. Hyrule Warriors is a must play for any Zelda fan.

For sure getting DKC:TF and Hyrule Warriors

I'm not sure if it's the amount of Wii U ports or what, but I'm definitely spending more on Nindies so far this year. It's ironic that it was a similar picture on the Wii U too for months at a time.

@gatorboi352 For me, it's easier to play for just a few minutes at a time on a portable system. A few minutes here and there is often all I get. Plus, it's great for travel. We have a Wii U but there are still games in our Wii U backlog that I'll wind up playing on the Switch instead, as it's more convenient for pick-up-and-play and can go anywhere with me. Granted, the Switch is not our only system, but even if it were, between all of the physical releases over the past year and tons of great options on the eShop, I'd have plenty to keep me busy for the foreseeable future. Some of us also have families and shared entertainment spaces.

@Archius9 I hope the next Nintendo system is full of Switch ports so I don't have to buy a Switch. Sound about right?

@Marioman64 Exactly why NLife isn't my fav Nintendo news site. Not even my Top 3.

It’s funny watching the comments of everyone replying to the gator kid, as if he’s a guru. I blocked him, so I can’t even see his comments but do see the replies. Why do you guys even bother replying to a very young & inexperienced kid?

This is the kid who said the Switch would fail and that Nintendo was a bad investment. He argued with me that around launch. I went out & bought Nintendo stock at launch day, and sold it just 2 months ago at a 60% return. The Switch is the fastest selling console of all time as of today. The guy will always say Nintendo will fail, at every single turn, and once in a while, like a broken clock being right twice a day, will be right eventually. But his analysis has no standing beyond Nintendo sucks at everything.

So why bother replying? I guess you can also try to have a conversation with the crazy guy on the street corner too if that’s your thing...but why??

@Agent721 It's a Warriors game with a Zelda skin.

I'm torn on whether or not to nab Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition and/or Immortal Redneck, considering how many games I have in my backlog. I'll definitely get them both at some point, though.

It'd be easier if there weren't, like, ten other games I already want to nab this year. And this before E3 and the inevitable first-party releases late in 2018.

@gatorboi352 It's not unusual for people to have loads of time where they're relatively unoccupied, but also away from a TV for extended periods.

Honestly, if you can't think of scenarios where a person would get much more use out of a portable console, then that speaks more to your myopia than anything.

@Agent721 I have him blocked, too, along with two or three others who just never have anything good or even useful to say. All the members of that little club get really spiteful and tiresome, so I found it best to just not let them mess up the signal/noise ratio in my Nintendo community. It's sometimes funny watching other people respond to them, though, as apparently not one of them has found anything new to say since I blocked them.

On topic: DAAAAMN there are some hot games coming out. Doesn't matter at all to me that they are mostly ports as I never bought a Wii U. They will be new to me and my kids, and that's all I care about. Based on this video, Runner 3, Little Nightmares and Yonder all went from zero interest to being high on my wanted list. And of course I'm buying Hyrule Warriors at some point. I loved it on 3DS, but it will be so much better with a graphics upgrade.

@Jack_Goetz

It's because the majority of
Games to choose from on the switch are either ports or "nindies" ..

@Agent721 You're right! I will put him on ignore instead.

I was considering picking up Hyrule Warriors, AGAIN, but apparently the only new 'content' are a few costumes. I know there's already a ton of content with the base game & all the DLCs, but I already own all the DLCs on the Wii U version, and don't care about the Switch's gimmick of also being portable. And there's also the possibility that they could add new content to the 'Definitive Edition' through DLC like they did with Pokken DX, which wouldn't surprise me.

Playing Donkey Kong on the toilet? I’m in!

@blackbox64 Precisely because it can get rather repetitive (/grindy), I'd wish they had included a way to carry over savegames from previous releases. I enjoyed the game overall, but doing the exact same stuff for dozens of hours all over again, just to get where I already am on the WiiU is kinda a dealbreaker to me.

@Ralek85 This. Just... this.

Getting the best version of HW! Can't wait! Impa is going to wreck some fools. Again.

So nothing worth playing. Thanks, Nintendolife, for the informative video.

BTW, Alex, lose the bottom corner square. We don't need to see your face while you're showing pieces of games.

Dark Souls would have been the game I would be playing this month but unfortunately that isn't happening now. Not interested in DKC Tropical Freeze at full price as the most I will pay for that is 30 bucks. Hyrule Warriors is tempting though seeing as I have never played the game and the idea of being able to play as all those cool Zelda characters has me very interested in the game, with Young Link and Skull Kid being my top picks.

@electrolite77 "I understand that it can be difficult to empathise with lifestyles you haven't experienced."

No I get it, I'm mid 30s married with a 4 year old. There's no way I'm playing anything, portable or not, with my situation. Gaming time is after hours when everyone else is asleep (or otherwise out of the house or something). Other than that I'm doing my family a disservice looking down at a portable gaming device playing and focusing on that instead of devoting attention to them.

@Ralizah are you people even reading my comments fully? I explicitly have stated, numerous times, that OUTSIDE OF an extended train ride/car ride/flight and the waiting that comes along with that.

@Agent721 the irony in your post tho lol

@shoeses If you haven't played the 3DS version there'll be a lot more new to you including 5 Adventure maps and 9 Legend mode stages. The bulk of the 3DS exclusive content didn't come to Wii U.

@kirbygirl yeah I can see that I suppose. I've personally never been able to "micro game" for lack of a better term; the ability to pick up and play for just minutes at a time.

@gatorboi352 There are plenty of scenarios where portability would benefit a person outside of those limited examples, though. Consider people who work in tech, where a LOT of their time is just spent waiting for stuff to process, or people who work security at night and have to stay alert whilst pretty much nothing is happening. You could probably think of hundreds of examples of people who would find a lot more use in a Switch than, say, a PS4.

And this is putting aside people who only play at home and have TV time, but are just more comfortable playing on a portable system.

As a former pc gamer in my mid 30's and I appreciate the switch. Now that i have a wife and two young kids, it's nice to pick up a quick game of kart or worms when im ready as i dont have much time for gaming. I even enjoy doom, having previously played it on the pc, as i got tired of mouse and keyboard gaming and find the gyro aiming to be a welcome relaxing compromise. Is there room for improvement? Absolutley, but I enjoy it nonetheless. It came in handy when moving between homes and not having access to a tv.

@Ralizah Yeah i guess so, which all falls under my "waiting around a lot" scenario.

Having said that though, if I'm the employer in either of those scenarios I'm firing that employee. They can find more constructive uses of their time than playing video games on the clock. But I digress...

@JasmineDragon

We’re in the same boat then! That’s is funny. Some people aren’t worth the time of day!

I’m looking forward to Little Nightmares as well. I own DKC on Wii I but I think it will sell it on eBay to get the upgraded version in the Switch.

I own Hyrule Warriors on the Wii U and it was awesome there and will be awesome on the Switch.

These complaints about re-releasing games are absurd given the amount of re-releases in the PS4/Xbone in their first two years. There’s nothing wrong there...and there’s nothing wrong with the Switch doing it too. A good game is a good game!

Why are people complaining about? Look at Sony and MS. They have ported many games with UPDATED graphics and even load times are decreased. You get the better experience and you don't want that? If you own a WII U and have those game no one is forcing you to buy them. You either ignore it or buy it. Be glad you are not forced to stay with the older console so you can move to the newer one. People are funny here sometimes. Thats why we might not see many games from the past from the complains

@Crono1973 What are you on about? I've been saying it was a good idea "from the beginning", I was simply reiterating my stance. A lot of good games were basically wasted on the Wii U, so it make a lot of since to port them. Honestly, I think they aren't bringing them fast enough. I'll be a happy camper once they bring over XCX, both Zelda remasters, Toyko Mirage Sessions, Starfox Zero, Fatal Frame, Devil's Third, and Pikmin 3. I have them (aside from Devil's Third) on the Wii U but going back to the gamepad after playing the Switch for so long is quite sad, and I don't like playing games locked to the TV.

I do believe that they shouldn't be re-releasing Nintendo Select $20 games, or just older U games in general, for $60, though. $20-40 should be the range for the majority of those ports. The only games that should be considered for $40+ are ones with a considerable amount of DLC, like Mario Kart 8 or Hyrule Warriors.

@Faruko, erm, more like 13m and I was one of them. I will move over to Switch eventually, but not while Splatoon 2 and Odyssey are the only two grade A exclusives. Tropical Freeze is just more of the same.

@gatorboi352 Depends entirely on the work environment and the type of job they're employed in. Most high-skill tech employees I know have a significant degree of freedom to their jobs and don't have to worry about managers breathing down their necks to go look busy all the time like they're cashiers at a McDonalds.

Also, if you plan on firing your night security for doing something to occupy the time between patrols, then you're probably not going to retain anyone to guard your business or institution at night to begin with. Not for any stretch of time, at least.

Yonder: The Cloud Catcher Chronicles it's pretty fluid and clean graphics than Legend of the Zelda Breath of the Wild. By the Way I really want (Godzilla the Game 2015) Playable Monsters on switch and Pokemon so long waited release.

@eaglebob345 I would like Toyko Mirage Sessions and Pikmin 3 port to switch too as I wanted to play them but didn't want to get anymore WiiU games ( I only a handful of WiiU games ). I enjoyed Wii a lot, not so much for WiiU, didn't like the WiiU gamepad.

People need to ignore comments from this guy gatorboi352. It always ruin the discuss to let him enter in the Nintendo circle.

The truth need to be said.

Filler until they get some new games done. I think the hype will start again at E3 with Mario Tennis releasing soon after.

May is looking really strong, I'm on the complete opposite side of the negative spectrum. Street Fighter 30th will be day 1, I'll be double dipping on Hyrule Warriors, Fox n Forests looks great, I'll finally get to play Ikaruga, then there's Runner3, Immortal Redneck, Yonder and Little Nightmares which I'll get at some point too.

@subpopz

It’s because everyone is entertaining those who they shouldn’t entertain. When a troll is a troll, hit ignore. These guys would argue with you that the Earth is flat if they had a chance.

Am I the only one that thinks Yonder looks amazing? How pretty is that art style?? I will be buying this for sure.
Little nightmares was an instant pre order for me, just looking forward to release day

@Grumblevolcano Didn't know that. However, Hyrule Warriors is an ultra-grindy game, and I doubt they'll make a way to transfer save data from the Wii U/N3DS version to the Switch version. Doesn't helped that I still have tons to do in FE Warriors, though it's not nearly as fun considering nearly all characters share a moveset with another, if not all of them...

I got Megaman on my radar for this month and I had Dark Souls but that is not happening. It doesn't bother me with the ports since I've been pouring money into the Indies on the Eshop. Once the retail releases starting turning into new titles (looks like July) I'll probably quit buying so many Indie games.

Although I loved many games on Wii U, I almost never played, because that console was sooooo slooooooow, which matters now that I’m a grown up with a life. Switch is great and ports are great!

I've learned that since Switch is getting Wii U ports, "everyone" had a Wii U. When it was new, it seemed like it was "nobody has a Wii U." No shock that all of a sudden Wii U was relevant now that there is a new system to troll.

LOL.
I have BOTH Wii U & Switch.
I have 7 Wii U games, but ONLY 2 are ported to Switch (Mario Kart 8 & LEGO City Undercover).
And i Love Both of them.

@shoeses There is no save transfer but they have done other things to reduce the grind with the Definitive Edition, for example you can now buy Adventure map items with rupees after you've obtained them once which means you don't have to replay levels just to get specific items required to progress..

@1UP_MARIO I owned a WiiU, it was a great console shame it didn't take... Including me I knew of like 8-9 people that bought one, I convinced like 3 to buy one and they loved it lol

@HipsterInkling
Really ?
I bring my Switch on the go, usually at Mall every Sunday (For playing DDR X2 Arcade at TimeZone as my Main purpose i go to Mall).
I oftenly play my Switch inside my local Gameshop , sometimes with a little buddy, a 10 years old kid that i befriend with him long time.
I also play my Switch while walking. Of course, i choose the game that doesn't distract my focus on both walking & playing while i keep my eyes on my surrounding.
I set my Switch on Tabletop mode + Joy Cons set on Joy Con grip when i have a dinner at Food Court, let other peoples see my Switch is being played.
At home, i play my Switch & other handhleds (3DS & NDS) on my bed. My games collections are beside of my bed, so i can easily access them quickly.

I have Wii , Wii U, PS2 & PS4 attached on my TV at my Living Room. Somehow, i rarely use any of them since i got Switch. Not because they are boring, but i found my habit is prefer handhelds than consoles. To play the consoles, i need some preparations from turning on TV, Connect the Power cable into socket, connect specific HDMI cables (Wii U / Switch / PS4) onto TV since my TV has Only 1 HDMI input, turning on a small fan for keep my body cool since i'm easily to sweat, prepare my Wiimote if i want to play Wii / Wii U / Gamecube games. I only play my consoles whenever i'm in the mood to play.

Why do so many people love to try to prove the writers wrong about such general wording? Okay, some of these games are ports so you don't consider them new. And yeah, they might say the Switch is a portable in an article and you know that it's also a hybrid. Who cares, we all know what it is. I'm tired of every article having so many of these comments.

@HipsterInkling I haven't started playing on a Switch yet (technically I have one, but I'm planning to start using it once I get some more free time), but I see your point. I cannot see how I would find the time outside to game. Maybe it's different for others, but I often get sucked into a game, so it's a bit too distracting to play one while other things are happening around you. I do agree that the train ride/bus ride argument makes sense, but for others who don't use public transportation, I find it difficult to see how the portability could be super useful. Maybe for a few quick rounds of Splatoon or Mario Kart I guess, but with BotW I like to play for an hour or two, so quick spurts are something I don't like with those types of games. Maybe my opinion will change when I start using the Switch.

@gatorboi352 I see what you mean. I'm a Wii U owner and many of the games so far this year haven't been enticing. And like you I fail to see the appeal of portability, as oftentimes whenever I'm outside I'm busy doing something else and don't have time to immerse myself in a video game. But for some people, it seems to be beneficial. Also, you and me haven't played the Switch for an extended period of time (like a few months). Maybe if we play it for that period of time we would experience the portability and maybe understand what others are saying.

Like you, I do think it's a bit hypocritical for people to praise Switch games and bash Wii U games when many of the big-hitters on the Switch are ports of Wii U games or slightly updated versions of Wii U games. That being said, just curious, why do you dislike the Switch? Surely it isn't doing anything worse than the Wii U in terms of hardware? The Wii U sacrificed power for a second screen, while the Switch sacrificed power for portability. After playing many Wii U games and then finally playing BotW, I realized just how distracting and annoying it is to move your neck and view two screens. Just for having a single screen setup with a normal Pro Controller that is compatible with far more Switch games than the Wii U Pro Controller was with Wii U games, I think it's better than Wii U. And portability might actually seem helpful at times, or at least something to try. Maybe it won't be appealing or it would be, but you might as well try it.

The best part about the portability hands-down is the fact that now Nintendo only has to support one system. For that alone the Switch trounces the Wii U. It can now get games like Pokemon, Mario and Luigi RPGs, Fire Emblem, and other previously handheld-focused games. We're now going to get more games, which will lead to a larger player base, which will lead to more games.

All in all, I'm curious about why you dislike the Switch so much and suggest you consider the reasons I mentioned. Even if you end up disliking portability, at least it doesn't get in the way like second screen gaming or waggle did. And you could just dock it and pretend it's a PS4 style console, only with far more games than any Nintendo system in the last few generations because of its portability and home console capabilities. The Switch is definitely a brilliant hardware move by Nintendo, no doubt. While the games aren't exactly amazing for Wii U owners so far this year, I suggest you wait until later this year and see what comes.

Positive comments are a rare thing now on NL.

Great to see the ‘port police’ out in force again. Surprised you’re not bored of your own narrative ... as everyone else is. Yawn!

Great to see ten new Switch games in May (if this was a Wii U article, they wouldn’t be ‘new’ ... but it isn’t) - I’m interested in most of these, so purchases will be dictated by how copious my wallet is feeling

@Alucard83 I think they are more annoyed that the ports are taking up the space of new releases.

Switch games coming to Switch? Now I’ve heard everything!

@Daftbomb immortal redneck is a weak game. I finished it on PC. The guns are weak, the enemies are weak, the graphics are n64 quality. Bland game overall.

@shadow-wolf

Why did you use your smartphone more than any of your PC and consoles ever? Does that not tell you portability meant something?

@Anti-Matter you have a 10 years old buddy. I hope the parents of the kid knows.

@1UP_MARIO
You know, i had meet with his Mother.
His mother is working at parcel store inside Mall that i visited every Sunday.
Her store is in front of Amazone Arcade Center, the place i played DDR MAX 2 Arcade every Sunday.

I oftenly found him near of Amazone Arcade center. Sometimes, i asked his mother where he is if i din't see him.
When i meet him, sometimes we play DDR together at either Amazone or Timezone. After DDR time, i go to my local game shop to hang out & oftenly i play my Switch inside the shop. Well, the game shop is very tiny but provide my games i want. Lately, we played some Switch games such as 1-2-Switch, Overcooked Special Edition, LEGO CITY Undercover, etc. He really likes 1-2-Switch and he played better than me for some Mini games like Milk, Quick Draw, Wizard. He was also interested with Overcooked, that for me I was kinda frustrated for unlocking New world due to very Tough gameplay to achieve the goals.

Also, we had ever played Nintendo Switch at Food Court, when i was looking for some food for my dinner time, he followed me, of course with permission from his mother. I set my Switch in Table top mode, so peoples around me could see the gameplay, whether they cared to see or not, didn't matter for me.

Well, at least i found some buddies to play together because i almost always play alone. Almost nobody around me shares same interest with Nintendo.

I'm getting Ikaruga, Gunbird 2 and Terra Cresta this month, so it'll be a very good one for me.

I'll also get Raging Justice, but i'm not sure how much i'll enjoy it - The Takeover always looked more promising to me.

@gatorboi352 The complete package is just perfect for busy people. Amazing sleep mode, instant docking/undocking, playing on commutes or any other down time, two controllers always with you for a bit of two player. Perhaps someone with a lot of time just can’t understand

The Switch seems to be getting a heck of a lot of ports from a 'doomed console' that 'had no good games'...

@dunnyone trouble is im addicted to roguelikes, and until Ziggurat makes its way over to switch this is the only FPS roguelike im gonna be able to get.

At least Ikaruga is coming this month too...

@gatorboi352 I think it roughly translates to- I can play games whilst taking a dump.

Had skipped Hyrule Warriors last time so it would be a new game for me.

@Crono1973

It's more portable and also more powerful.

Last gen I had PS3, Vita, 3DS, Wii U.

@electrolite77 Ok so to refresh, your argument against the Wii U was:

Its simply much less desirable. Start with Switch being portable but more powerful and join the clunky Gamepad-shaped dots from there.

So why did you play on the PS3 last gen but not the Wii U when neither were portable?

@KryptoKrunch Thanks for not forgetting about Rick the Fox Yes, FOX n FORESTS will be out on May 17th! The coming soon page on the Nintendo e-shop should also be online soon. Looking forward to the reception of our 16-bit style title!

Oh boy, more ports!!! I love getting a single new game from Nintendo so far for all of 2018!! Can we just take a moment to thank Nintendo!?

It's strange to me how some people here can't seem to accept that the switch is so far a bit disappointing to many people, particularly wii u owners. Personally I never buy ports or remakes unless they offer a substantial amount of new content. If I want to replay the game I'll just play the original again. So for anyone like me, the switch's lineup so far is pretty thin. I can count the switch games that interest me on one hand.

If you're still having a lot of fun with your switch and are happy with the games being released for it then great, but don't act like there aren't people with valid complaints against it.

@gatorboi352

I don't play when the kids are there. I might when I'm sat with my wife as it's still more sociable than going in the other room and doesn't mean I'm annexing the TV.

Thing is, by questioning others situations you are demonstrating a textbook failure to empathise. It isn't up to you to vet and approve anybody saying they get a lot of use out of Switch as a portable. Just because your situation and choices permits a focus on home Console gaming doesn't mean it's the same for others.

It also made me smile that you'd "fire" people playing on company time. I appreciate my job is pretty niche but it isn't the only profession where filling downtime with activity is actually recommended these days.

BTW I'm not saying I'm the super king of empathy here. I know of PC gamers who want to lose hours tweaking settings to maximise graphics but that just isn't for me. I have a mate who's a big gamer, now works away a lot, complains about his lack of PS4 time but has no interest in a portable. I've another mate who does often ignore his wife and kids to game. That's his downtime. I can't relate to those choices. However I just accept that I don't and can't understand others lives.

@Crono1973

Eh? Where did I say I exclusively play on portables?

@PaulDuran

They aren't though. If quick and easy ports weren't there, the release schedule would simply have big gaps.

@electrolite77 You said that the Switch was better than the Wii U because it's more powerful and portable. The power part can be easily dismissed because consoles are always more powerful than their predecessors but what about you using portability against the Wii U?

It makes me wonder what you played last gen when none of the consoles were portable?

@Crono1973

Your all over the place. The Switch is more desirable generally than Wii U because it's more powerful and more portable. It has local multiplayer out of the box. It has games coming out much, much more quickly. It's the easiest sell in the world, as much as you wish it was down to hype.

Dunno what my personal situation has to do with anything but I had multiple systems last gen and I have multiple this gen (PS4 Pro, XB1X, Switch). I take my Switch to work instead of my 3DS or Vita. I didn't have two kids last gen that I have now. My 4K twins are struggling to get a look in.

"last gen when none of the consoles were portable?"

?????????????????

@electrolite77 Do try to keep up.

You are judging the Wii U by current gen standards but when the Wii U was in it's current gen none of your complaints make sense. The Wii U should have done better last gen because it has a good library, dual screen gameplay, backward compatibility and the VC with games from the NES, SNES, N64, GBA and DS. Comparing the Switch to the Wii U is like comparing the PS3 to the PS2 and saying 'the PS3 is more powerful'. Well of course it's more powerful, they are not in the same generation and that comparison is invalid.

Now if the PS3 was a portable system and the Wii U was not then you may be able to criticize the Wii U for not being portable but as is, that criticism is invalid.

Much of the Switch's success comes from the superior Wii U library and people are always asking for the VC which the Switch apparently isn't going to get in the traditional form.

I say again, it's hype. It's people pretending that portability is a NEW THING with the Switch when really, you could sit on the toilet with your Game Boy in 1989.

I'm playing right now Zelda Phantom Hourglass, so that topic pic a little bit confusing

@Crono1973 it's also got practically no load times, play 2 player games anywhere with it's 2 portable controllers that snap out of the system, play in tabletop mode with a controller separated from the system, so you can play games without holding the system (unlike a gameboy), and best of all, a more steady stream of games. Then there's, Doom, Skyrim, LA Noire, Splatoon 2, ARMS, Mario Odyssey, LABO, Mario & Rabbids, Rocket League, Flint Hook, Lichtspeer, Vostok Inc, Kirby Star Allies, Dragon Quest Builders, Puyo Puyo Tetris, Snipperclips, Mantis Burn Racing, Nine Parchments, Spelunker Party, Unholy Heights, Sonic Mania, Stardew Valley, South Park: Fractured but Whole, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Fire Emblem Warriors, Disgaea 5, Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2, Payday 2, KORG Gadget, Binding of Isaac, Super Bomberman R, Yooka-Laylee, Outlast 1 + 2, Owlboy, Darkest Dungeon, Overcooked, Celeste, Thumper, Enter the Gungeon, Golf Story, Bleed 1 + 2, Morphite, Arcade VS. Super Mario Bros, Arcade Punch-Out, among others, none of which ever came out on Wii U, let alone after only a little over a year since release. The Switch's lineup crushes year one of Wii U, easily.

@Crono1973

"The Wii U should have done better last gen because it has a good library, dual screen gameplay, backward compatibility and the VC with games from the NES, SNES, N64, GBA and DS."

The Wii U did as well as it deserved. It was a bad idea with a stupid name, overpriced because of the consumer-repelling Gamepad, underpowered without being portable, with some games playable Off TV but some not, a quirky development environment that helped limit third-party support, and a software library that was very slow in coming. We're 14 months into the Switch's life and its library compared to Wii U at 14 months is massively superior.

Granted, VC is better on Wii U but at 14 months it didn't have GBA, N64 or DS. And I thought ports were bad?

"Comparing the Switch to the Wii U is like comparing the PS3 to the PS2 and saying 'the PS3 is more powerful'. Well of course it's more powerful, they are not in the same generation"

So PS3 was more desirable than PS2 when it came out? Because it was more powerful And Switch is more powerful than Wii U? Glad we've got that covered.

"and that comparison is invalid."

Aw bless. You don't get to decide that chief. Good effort though.

"Now if the PS3 was a portable system and the Wii U was not then you may be able to criticize the Wii U for not being portable"

So because nobody has previously superceded their home system with a more powerful portable nobody can criticise Wii U? Nice try. Thanks for illustrating the Switch's unique selling points though.

"Much of the Switch's success comes from the superior Wii U library"

Of the 8 best-selling Switch games, 2 were on Wii U, and neither at this stage of the Wii U's life. Neither was Bayonetta 2, or Pokken, or Hyrule Warriors.

"I say again, it's hype....It's people pretending that portability is a NEW THING with the Switch when really, you could sit on the toilet with your Game Boy in 1989."

I have no idea who's saying portability is a new thing.

Overall you make some good points though.

Portables have been selling for 29 years. Nintendo portables always outsell Nintendo home consoles. The new Nintendo portable is also a Nintendo home Console, more powerful than the last one.

Switch appeals to people who want a Nintendo home system (which the Wii U theoretically could have done but didn't do very well due to bad design and slow release schedule) and people who want a Nintendo portable and people who like the hybrid idea and people who want a powerful portable system that can play Skyrim, Doom, Rocket League etc. on the go. All in one box. It played host to their latest and greatest versions of Zelda, Mario Kart and 3D Mario in its first 8 months.

Yet despite all that you're claiming the desirability of such a product is hype? Amazing.

@electrolite77
Yea, but I don't think it's so far fetched thatat least a little of their manpower in being put to older games than the new ones.

@electrolite77 said "repelling Gamepad, underpowered without being portable, with some games playable Off TV but some not"

This is the reason ^ I dislike WiiU
and WiiU = Region Lock. Switch = Region Free.
In fact I waited till Switch is out to make sure I wasn't dreaming when they said it will be Region Free to get on the Hype train.

@PaulDuran

Oh yeah they're not free. But I don't think it's unreasonable to state that ports take a small percentage of the effort of a new game, remove 5 ports developed internally and you might get one new game (total guesswork alert!)

But then Pokken was Bamco, Bayo was Platinum, Hyrule Warriors is Koei-Tecmo. So they're not taking any Nintendo resource away and they maintain relationships with other companies that may have been disappointed by sales of their games on Wii U.

As an extra plus, if/when Nintendo come to make a new Mario Kart and a new DKC they have a functional, tested engine. So that potentially helps development in the future. So does extra sales/revenue generated from these ports.

That's why every system since GBA/GC/XB1 launched has tons of ports, especially early on. It's just a fact of life.

Great N*SYNC reference.

@gaga64
You deserve a heart for incorporating the word fallacious in your comment,congratulations.
Although in general your post was quite specious.

@AlexOlney Great videos. You’re quite the crack up there Alex. You had me laugh and rewind twice, which I rarely do when watching videos. I also never comment but it was so entertaining you deserved to know. PS NINTENDO RULES!

@KayFiOS
"Great N*SYNC reference."

Bye Bye Bye ?

@Anti-Matter (Sighs heavily with palm planted firmly over forehead)
https://youtu.be/GQMlWwIXg3M

@KayFiOS
Ow....
I see.

@UnknownReader

Oh yeah, Switch being region free has been superb. Very consumer friendly.

Sad about dark souls. I’ll be looking forward to Death Road to Canada.

Yeah, I'm ready for E3..

Bring on all the ports! I buy Nintendo products so I’m playing games on the Switch I’ve never tried before (Doom, Payday 2, South Park, etc. ) I did own a Wii U (traded it in) and the only double dipping I’ve done is MK8. I’m making a choice to not buy/ cry about Captain Toad, Hyrule Warriors, and whatever else they decide to re-release. However if the Nintendo gods decided to pull out Windwaker, Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword, or their virtual console I will inevitably throw my money at them before I slink into my cave with my preciouses.

@Faruko I couldn't agree more.

@Grumblevolcano That's nice, but there's still the massive grinding required for levels & materials. I already did that once in HW, and it's the reason I've been barely playing FE Warriors lately. HW is a good Warriors game, and a lot better than FE Warriors in my opinion, but I don't feeling like grinding for hundreds of hours AGAIN for the same game.

@shoeses I feel the same, I do want to get Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition but don't like the thought of having to do all that grinding all over again. It took forever.

@Mamabear Would love to see Wind Waker and Twilight Princess HD on Switch. Can't see Skyward Sword happening though because I think the joy con motion controls work very different to wii motion plus. Just completed Skyward Sword on the Wii though and it's awesome 😁

@Stocksy Well said! The Wii U was the first Nintendo machine I didn't get since the bloody NES so bringing games over makes so much sense. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is one of the best selling games on the Switch so clearly it's the right idea no matter what naysayers on this site may say. 'Moan moan moan' more than 'port port port'! Sigh. Just be glad for the amount of choice we now have guys.

@gatorboi352 Away from what TV? I have no TVs at home. I don't watch any, I have little space in my apartment and I see no need to get an oversized monitor
I play on Switch almost exclusively at home and in handheld or tabletop mode.

@cfgk24 Any source for the 1080 60FPS thing? Also does that include handheld mode or docked only? The game comes out right before I'm taking a weekend trip and I thought about getting it for the train ride...

there seems to be no 1st party game for me to buy until...umm...Fire Emblem I guess? Then Smash Bros and Pokemon. Super strange that Nintendo's output is almost all overpriced ports

@gatorboi352 I'm really amazed at the mental gymnastics required to come up with statements like Faruko's "Considering just 3 people in the world actually bought a Wii U, I consider these games as new, tbh." ... Any insights on that?

@SmaggTheSmug it'll be 720p in handheld mode.
Otherwise...
https://twitter.com/GiraPrimal/status/993228865731428352?s=19

@electrolite77 @crono1973 the biggest reasons for switch success is the removal of dual screen gameplay, true portability and the removal of the 'Wii' branding.

@shadow-wolf thanks for the post, very thoughtful and thorough.

To your question, I dislike the switch because it's a day late and a dollar short for me, a recently converted ex-NDFer. I used to blindly defend all of nintendo's decisions and products and lie to myself that they had it all figured out, this thing known as the video game industry (and by extension, the consumer).

Had the switch came out in 2012 instead of the Wii U (day 1 Wii U owner here... regretfully) I'd probably still be just as big a fanboy.

But, be as it may, the Wii U came out instead, I convinced myself for 3 years that it was the right move and all was still well in the mushroom kingdom and that it was truly a great successor to Wii (one of my favorite systems of all time).... until I acquired an Xbox One. Now, it's not so much the fact that it was an XB1 vs. a PS4, but rather the idea that these other two companies are on a whole nother level in terms of what they are after in the industry and the consumer, and what I was actually looking for from my video game company of choice.

I have played more, better games in my 2 years with my XB1 than I ever did on both my Wii U and 2DS XL combined.

I borrowed my brother's Switch for about 8 weeks and, while Odyssey was enjoyable (I bought and beat BOTW on Wii U, Pro Controller only), it was too little too late for me to invest another $300+ into a Nintendo system so devoid of what I expect (and already get) from my other console.

Everyone always throws the portability argument at me as well. Nah. I'm good.

Nothing beats sitting down in front of my 55" 4K set with surround sound and flying through a match of WWII or a 2 hour binge of Far Cry.

@gatorboi352 Let's all say it together again. There's no such thing as the NDF. It's a meaningless phrase designed to dismiss an entire group of people. You don't like what you used to like, and that's all.

@gatorboi352 I always find the Xbox and ps vs Nintendo debate an odd one personally. It’s like comparing apples and pears, I don’t think they were ever intended to be the same type of games systems. I love Nintendo for the games that I feel are unique to Nintendo, likewise, the other platforms provide me with entirely different experiences... tomb raider for example.

The fact that Nintendo now offers me ports (yes I said it... the word all people hate ) of the likes of Skyrim is just amazing in my opinion.

Switch is a unique system that offers one of the most exciting mixes of games and genres I have seen in years, offering is console, mobile and pc games alike, it’s an amazing piece of kit.

@gatorboi352 You're welcome! I understand where you're coming from. I used to be the same way — all Nintendo until I grew dissatisfied with the Wii and chose the PS3. And like you, it was mind-blowing just how amazing it was in terms of games, online experience, graphics, etc. I still played games on the Wii but my main console was very much the PS3.

It's just what happens when you play with Nintendo-only stuff for so long. The competitors definitely offer different experiences that you may end up loving a lot. It was mind-blowing how many features the PS3 offered (HD, much better graphics, Blu Ray, other multimedia features, actually good online, achievements/trophies, even more demos).

If you're not satisfied with the Switch, you shouldn't force yourself to like it/buy it. It's just not your thing for now, and that's fine. Like numerous others who left Nintendo at say the GameCube era and haven't played anything Nintendo until the Switch, you might need a break for a while before returning too.

I say that because the Wii U was what made me a Nintendo fan again. I was getting a bit worn out with realistic, dramatic games, so the colorful games of the Wii U appealed to me. Plus Splatoon was the reason I got a Wii U and 100% justified the purchase for me; I loved third person shooters but grew to become too tired of their realism, so Splatoon and its mix of platforming and shooting won me over. And I've stayed with Nintendo systems ever since.

So TLDR; you just may have gotten tired of Nintendo, and that's OK. Lots of people here have a non-Nintendo system they play, which allows them to experience the things a Nintendo system cannot give, so you should definitely continue using your Xbox One.

Just a heads up though, I'd recommend you replace "NDF" with "fan" or some other term. It has a slightly negative tone to it that is annoying some people here, so it's best that you replace it so that more people are able to see your opinions and relate to what you're experiencing instead of calling you a "troll."

@CairiB That's the key here. They (Nintendo and Xbox/PS/PC) are two completely different approaches. One offers things the other doesn't, and vice-versa. I strongly recommend people dissatisfied with Nintendo at the moment to try out a PS or PC or Xbox, cause sometimes you just need to try something new.

@Faruko
1000 % agree, switch has been a godsend for me

@PanurgeJr call it what you want but that subset of the gaming community absolutely exists.

@CairiB "I always find the Xbox and ps vs Nintendo debate an odd one personally. It’s like comparing apples and pears, I don’t think they were ever intended to be the same type of games systems. I love Nintendo for the games that I feel are unique to Nintendo, likewise, the other platforms provide me with entirely different experiences..."

Sign of the times I guess. I'm so old I remember when Nintendo was pretty much what Sony has been for the last 15 to 20 years. They were the one-stop-shop gaming console and also put Sega in their place. I guess I'm just an old bitter ex-Ninty fanboy pining for the old days again. Those days are clearly long gone, but one can still hope, no?

@shadow-wolf well said, and fair enough on the NDF term. I'll refrain from that moving forward.

@cfgk24 No info about framerate in handheld mode apparently.
I don't care for 1080p as much as I do for 60FPS.

@shadow-wolf @gatorboi352 I gotta say, it's funny reading your perspectives, as mine is quite the opposite: I used to be hardcore PC only (and those other home consoles are just inferior PCs – which I know from experience as a video game tester) but the Switch offered me a world of experience that was completely new to me.
Now I believe that, if you can afford it, the best combo to experience the most in gaming is one of the "big" systems alongside a Nintendo console. After all neither Sony nor Microsoft quite replicated Wii's motion controls and a lot of those indie games feel right at home on a small screen of a portable system.

@SmaggTheSmug My GF, who is Japanese, said Japan says it's 60fps. I can't translate lol..

@gatorboi352

You're on a similar curve to me, I've done the fanboy-->reformed fanboy thing myself. The next challenge is to get past the overcompensation part of criticising everything the previously supported company does not matter how unfair and actively wanting them to fail/cheering when they mess up. I did it with Nintendo from 2011-2017 and Sony, after the PS2 which is my favourite Console, 2005-09. But I came through the other side. Though I was right about Wii U being rubbish.

The current situation in the industry is almost perfect for gamers. Two big players competing for similar turf (which is why Nintendo can't and shouldn't attempt to compete with them directly) and Nintendo, while not catering well for you personally, in a strong but differentiated position too. Ideally MS would eat into Sony's market share and they'd all really have to right for our money but we're not far off.

On your other nostalgic point, the only time Nintendo or any other Console maker got anywhere near a 'one stop shop' was the NES era, and that's only because they were bullying a***holes. That's not a good situation for us as consumers. Even the mighty SNES missed out on plenty of games by the likes of Konami and Capcom that the Megadrive/Genesis got. The PS2 got pretty close and dominated and guess what happened to Sony after that? Bullying a**eholes....

@PlywoodStick It's a joke dude, why you so serious

I mean, the wiiu sold badly, it wasn't a bad console, i loved mine but it sold badly, there's no denying.

@gatorboi352 Most of my gametime is when i'm on my way to work, on my way back, those times i have nothing to do at work, for example.

When my gf is watching TV i take the switch and play the game, simple as that

cooking? take my switch to the kitchen and play while i have time, same with the bathroom

I just feel the switch is just more akin to what i do on a daily basis than you do, which is prefectly fine. Hell i found a little too much of a hassle nowadays to turn my PC to sit down and play games while i can just take out my switch, press the power button and play for 5-10 minutes

@Faruko True, true. I was fishing for a response from gator... they caught on, I didn't get one.

@SmaggTheSmug Yes 100%. Nintendo and the others offer such a different style that it really is worth it to at least experience both styles and see which one (or both) suits you. Nintendo games do have a certain magic that I find lacking in other games, and other games often have an atmosphere lacking in Nintendo games, so it's definitely useful to try out both. Nintendo has only doubled down on that by offering a portable system and being perfectly complementary to the PC/Xbox/PS4.

@electrolite77 I find it funny that the two times you were against Nintendo and Sony produced two of my favorite consoles ever — the Wii U and PS3. The PS3 spectacularly reversed ship and became a good success, and while the Wii U did not do too great, it still amassed a great (if small) library of games and has directly and indirectly been responsible for the Switch's success (through its concept, games, etc.).

@gatorboi352 Thanks! And sounds good. You have a lot of interesting and valuable views for this community, so it'd be a shame if others dismissed your views just because of a word.

@shadow-wolf

Fair play to Sony, they did turn it around with the PS3. I got one in late 2009 and yep, it's a great system. They were horrendous around the early PS3 period though. Mishandling the PSP, overpriced hardware, 'get a second job', closing down Lik-Sang...oh how I hooted when they had to backtrack on Rumble. They deserved to have Microsoft and then Nintendo pull the rug out from under them.

As for Wii U....ehhhh. I got one for Christmas 2013 knowing it would just be for a few exclusives. Even then I still enjoyed fewer than I expected. It's up there with the Saturn as a case study for Console manufacturers in 'what not to do'. Good emulator box though once hacked. And they seem to have learnt the main lesson which is that they can't properly support two seperate systems.

My May is fairly packed with Football Manager and Manticore bought so far. Then the Street 30th Anniversary Collection, Hyper Sentinel and the Framed Collection round out the month.

As for all the Wii U talk, it didn't sell well but I loved mine. The GamePad was awesome and it saw a lot more play time than the XBO/PS4 due to the more fun family friendly games (the kids are still playing Super Mario 3D World and Mario Kart 8). The complete Wii backwards compatibility and huge Wii/Wii U virtual console library made it a console that was like a compendium of the best Nintendo games. All of that makes it one of my favorite systems that I've owned.

@electrolite77 Your post reminded me of the old Disney ads for "Last time this film will EVER be released on home video! After that it goes back in the vaults and will NEVER be released on home video again!"

They of course meant VHS but at a time when nobody knew DVD was a thing, the sure pretended you'd never be able to buy Disney classics again!

@shadow-wolf As a PS3 "phat" owner, I really can't sing the praises of PS3. Yeah, by the end they did some good stuff and started turning it around, but it was too little too late. Microsoft really aced that gen with the 360, which is sad since they didn't even do their own best but excelled by default. Like the WiiU to Switch, most of what started making PS3 good moved to PS4 making the already much better PS4 fantastic and a return to PS2 form, but PS3....will always be a missing gap for me with Playstation. My two 360s got their use during that time for sure. WiiU, thanks to Splatoon got more play time than it ought to have by a factor of 10. So I got my money's worth. But 3DS really stole the show for me the few years prior to Switch.

@NEStalgia @electrolite77 Fair enough, guess it depends on the person and his/her interests. Although I do have to point out that while PS3 pre-2009 was kinda horrendous, post-2009 it’s kind of hard to argue 360 was better. 360 started losing exclusives left and right and PS3 started cranking out excellent exclusives at a breakneck pace. PS3 also ended up outselling the 360 worldwide. But yes the success of the 360 really came down to Sony messing up in the beginning , not so much due to the strengths of Xbox (same situation this gen but this time the success of PS4 is due to MS messing up in the beginning, not due to its strengths).

@shadow-wolf @NEStalgia

I understand both viewpoints here. I wouldn't have touched PS3 with somebody else's bargepole for a long time. But by December 2009 when I got a HDTV Sony had got their act together so there was nothing between them software-wise (if anything I was more interested in Sonys exclusives. MS' emphasis on shooters left me cold) and I went for the one with a Bluray player and less of a failure rate.

RROD and the later emphasis on Halo/Gears/Forza/Kinect saw them finish third in a gen that should have been theirs for the taking. Which made it even stranger when they launched XB1 full of the corporate arrogance that usually affects platform holders who are in a dominating position.

@NEStalgia

Disney are brilliant at back catalogue management. If they and Nintendo don't swap notes on a regular basis then they should.

Funny that Nintendo launch their first subscription service not long after Disney Life starts. A great way of turning legacy material into a reliable income stream. After all, the hard part is getting people subscribed, not retention

@electrolite77 The early iteration of PS3 was obscenely expensive and just plain strange, but it at least had a PS2 built in, PS1 back compatibility, an SACD player (I think I was one of the only humans alive that actually cared ) and a BD player in a time when BD players were obscenely expensive. And X360 didn't have HDMI out.... (people always forget about that. There was a hardware revision that added it.)

All that said, I was never much of a Microsoft fan and despite not being a PS1 kid (that was too new fangled. Nintendo and Sega were the REAL console makers, lol!)

I jumped into PS3 without a bias for either company other than disliking MS as a whole. And at first I loved it....but there were so few games. I got it when the $400 phat without the PS2 & SACD features released. it started picking up mid-gen, but there was one huge problem with PS3. Multiplat just flat out sucked. And most of the gen was multiplat. To me, most of the PS3 exclusives (except R&C, Infamous 1&2, Uncharted trilogy) were kind of "meh" (PS4 OTOH has an amazing, to me, exclusive library.) The X360 exclusives were equally meh (though I have a soft spot for Halo.) X1 had some GREAT exclusives for its day, but that all vanished with 360. So while I favored Sony's exclusives neither thrilled me much more than the other. But when it came to 3rd party...which was most of the gen. PS3 was....bad. I mean just bad. Too many games stuttered like crazy, dropped into sub-20fps framerates, worst of all, had the infamous PS3 vaselite-smeared plastic wrap as an AA filter, and the thing heated up like it was about to explode. After years of resisting, I bought a 360 (then another) and most games were just SOO much more enjoyable on it.

There was RROD, but then Slim had YLOD...it was a mess. I bought my 360 after the revision that "mostly" fixed RROD (never had an RROD on either 360, never had a YLOD on my phat or slim PS3 (bought the slim as a BD player later on...but the disc drive failed to read discs after a while... )

When I think of PS4 vs 360 I think mostly of faulty hardware (on both sides), brown shooters (on both sides), some cool exclusives (on PS), horrible controllers (PS), fragile controllers (MS), and a much smoother/sharper image for most games from MS. I'm more of a Sony fan than an MS fan but that gen.....I had to about face, and don't regret it.

The X1 launch was still inexplicable. The warning signs were there. They ignored it. Then again, never forget both Sony and MS had the exact same presentation planned with the exact same policies. After MS crashed and burned, Sony rewrite the script back-stage MS really underbaked the power, and then closed their studios banking on timed exclusives and online EA games to carry them. Costly mistakes.