The Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! game reveals have obviously had quite the effect on fans of the series across the globe, but it seems that investors are thoroughly behind the games, too.
Since the reveal, which happened just as we reached the 30th May in the image below, Nintendo's share price spent the following hours continuously rising, eventually ending the day with a rise of 4.3%. It might not be in the same league as when Pokémon GO was first released - the initial hype of that game saw an astonishing 25% jump in share price back in 2016 - but the new games' connection with the mobile sensation could well be a contributing factor here.
From a business sense, Nintendo and The Pokémon Company seem to have been very smart here; having mainline Pokémon entries launch on Switch, looking and behaving a little like Pokémon GO (and being able to communicate with it), could see a significant boost in sales and interaction with both the Switch, and Nintendo's mobile experiences. It looks like a win-win, and investors seem to agree.
We'll have to wait and see how the release of the new titles will impact Switch sales towards the end of this year, of course, but Pokémon is usually a major player in Nintendo's library and we can't see this time being any different.
How do you think these games will fare on Switch? Will they be a runaway success, or surprising under-achievers? Share your thoughts with us in the comments.
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I’m so glad they announced the new core game for 2019. Otherwise I would’ve wept softly watching what I perceived to be the series going down the toilet. I have no problem with a spin-off like this (exclusively) for the kids and casuals as long as they don’t replace the actual RPG series I have come to know and love.
Doomed.
@thesilverbrick You nailed it. My daughters will go bananas for Let's Go, and the drop-in co-op is tailor-made for younger siblings. By the time 2019 rolls around, however, anticipation for a real Pokemon entry will be through the roof.
@thesilverbrick Are you implying that the mainline Pokemon games aren't for kids and casuals? 🤔
@thesilverbrick You perfectly summarised why I'm okay with these games existing. While I understand the disappointment from people having to wait an extra year to get a proper Pokemon game on Switch, I feel like some people are overreacting when their saying this game will have a huge impact on how Pokemon moves forward. I'm almost certain that these game were literally made within a year for the sole purpose of easing the casual crowd into the traditional style of Pokemon so that their not completely alienated when the Gen 8 games come out next year.
It also gives the Gen 8 games an extra year of polish which relieves me because for the past few months, I was really worried that the core gen 8 games would be coming out this year and would end up being a rushed, mediocre product. That COULD still happen but at least the chances are much slimmer now.
I like it. I immediately redownloaded Pokemon Go after watching the trailer. I'm all in. Smart move imo. On the play store, GO is like the 4th top grossing game still. I think this will get current go players to get a switch
@SmaggTheSmug Kids and casuals certainly can enjoy the mainline games, but there are elements included that appeal to hardcore players, like the whole effort value and individual value system as well as the breeding mechanics and competitive play. The mainline series can appeal to everyone. This particular pair of “Let’s Go” games is aimed squarely at those who aren’t interested in depth in Pokémon.
@thesilverbrick Let's Go looks like a great 'gotta catch em all' game and will be massive with Go players. We have to wait for 2019 to 'be the very best.'
@WiltonRoots
...Since 1889
Surprise surprise
Gotta be honest. No Random Encounters really strikes me as an improvement to the series. I hope the spawn mechanics are well thought out with regards to rarity and re-spawns. It would be really nice to have a new Main Line Pokemon where you actually have to hunt for Pokemon instead of Spin in a Circle and Hope for a RNG Pop. Random encounter battles have never been fun in Pokemon, but for no random battles to work, they are going to need to make the Trainer Battle repeatable or something.
Yep, getting back on Pokemon GO. I really need to find my GO Plus...
I think it's a genius idea. I love the fact that my 5 year old will be able to help me by throwing Pokeballs (the only thing in PGO she enjoys doing anyways) and running around the game world with me. It will give TPC another flux of income to further the production of Gen 8. And it will likely have a similar effect to PGO's release in 2016 (although not to the same scale, considering everyone has a smartphone these days, but not necessarily a Switch).
Another benefit is I'm not currently undergoing the "new Pokemon game" withdrawal effects I usually feel when TPC gives us a drip feed of information about a new generation. I saw the trailer, I'm sold on it, but I'm perfectly okay waiting until November. Gives me plenty of time to try to get back into GO again.
Not surprised! With Let's Go and Smash Bros coming this year, as well as some possible E3 surprises, 2018's looking bright.
@KcebEnyaw I agree! At first I was a little bummed about the whole no random battle deal, but after some thought, they really only serve the purpose of supplying EXP and EV points anyway... I guess doing away with them is not THAT bad.
I understand why people are iffy on this game, but I've been a Pokemon fan since the originals, and this looks really good right now. Everything people like about the games seem to be here, the only thing different is catching wild Pokemon. I don't think it's going to be as big a deal as people think. It might even end up being BETTER than how things are done currently.
@KcebEnyaw Yeah that's one thing about the game that really concerns me. If there are no longer wild pokemon battles in this game which means you can't grind and after you've successfully beaten all the trailer (which, judging by the trailer have been made much easier) how exactly do you level up your Pokemon? I know they said you still gain exp from catching wild pokemon but what else do you do once you've already beaten all the trainers within the area, do you just repeatedly catch pokemon over and over again. Not only will that get REALLY tedious after 20 minutes, but it'll be even worse than the excessive grinding since that at least requires you to be involved in the game. I'm going assume that each trainer battle and wild capture nets you a REALLY large amount of exp to make up for the lack of wild battles but until we know that's the case, it's a part of the game that really concerns me. Hopefully there's a minigame you can play which can help buff up your pokemon once you've run out of options (sorta like the super training minigames in the Gen 6 games but instead of increasing stats, they give you exp).
@thesilverbrick All the media (NintendoLife included) keep reporting this as a main Pokémon game which it isn't. You're right, Pokémon Twitter account tweeted shortly after reveal that main core RPG games are coming to Switch in 2nd half of 2019. So hopefully these news sites will give better context in future coverage. That said, as spinoff games, I'm excited for these but myself & my friends/fiancé still play Pokémon GO so this is great....as spinoffs!!
@DarthFoxMcCloud So now we consider remakes with new features spin-offs?
@DarthFoxMcCloud The CEO announced Let's Go as a mainline Pokémon game in the presentation. They just changed things up for it.
@thesilverbrick
Exact same thoughts as you there.
It worried me for a second.
nintendo stocks up 4%
To be honest, this is such a top tier move by Nintendo by announcing a new Main pokemon game for 2019
This way you can lure Go fans to get a Switch (i'm guessing, A TONS OF) and keep playing Pokemon, once they do that, they will flood over the new Pokemon game in 2019.
as annoying as it is (i don't care about Go) it's brilliant
@KcebEnyaw Trainer battle apparently aunt going to be the only way to gain experience and level up. I think they mentioned that just catching pokemon will give experience.
Not surprised. Haven't even seen the trailer yet and my YouTube algorithm has flooded me with Pokemon Let's Go reactions and hot takes.
This was huge for Nintendo and Pokemon. And larger still for Switch. 2... TWO years that will have heavy Pokemon impacts in Switch. And couple that with Metroid Prime and Fire Emblem, you have some heavy hitting releases that will resonate for a long time.
@thesilverbrick
I honestly don't see what you are complaining about. This is basically blue and red in HD(well yellow to be precise). This is the main RPG series but with a very limited roster. Although 151 Pokemon did not seem limited when Pokemon were first introduced. The catching motion is a bit funky but I'm sure you can use a button press too. The battles I think could look a bit flashier but it's perfectly fine as is. What exactly is it that you find so off putting about going back to Khanto? Personally I'm going with Evee, it would make taking out Brock in the beginning a little more challenging. I wonder if moves will have the old attributes from red and blue or will they be closer to sun and moon?
@thesilverbrick They will sell a bucket load and it's good to know that they aren't just rushing out a core RPG and doing a half assed job. These are interim games and hit the Go! audience which is HUGE.
Yes, I believe they will be a runaway success.
I think this is brilliant move by Nintendo. Not only are fans getting their wishes answered with a core Pokémon game; they are also getting another Pokémon experience as well as ANOTHER free Pokémon game.
Well done 👍
@sashj Huh. I wonder if that means they are going to use the Pokemon GO Leveling System then and have the Pokemon's level Directly linked to the Trainer's level or something.
@whanvee I have no issue with going back to Kanto, but major features have likely been removed to make this a stripped-down casual-only experience. For starters, there are no wild battles anymore and hundreds of Pokémon are missing. But in addition to that, I imagine effort values, individual values, breeding, the GTS, abilities and held items are likely gone, too. Pokémon had become wonderfully deep for those who wanted it to be, and now it’s just stripped down to even less than its original bare essentials.
I really don't understand the worries people seem to have with hardcore vs casual, specially with the Switch. First with Labo and then with Pokémon. Why does it matter so much to you people if a game is considered casual or hardcore? People are hating Lets go just because you capture pkmn like in Go which everyone, therefore it was somehow considered casual. Like the game? Buy it. Don't like it? (Even though we haven't seen enough to determine) Then don't buy it. But if you simply dislike it because there are Go elements in it you should get a personality check.
@thesilverbrick You should learn to not jump to conclusions to much and maybe just wait and see what the game is like outside of an introduction trailer. Calm down, they said this is a full RPG and they also said there's a mainline game coming next year.
@KcebEnyaw No clue, according to them the games aren't even finished yet. They haven't finalized a couple of last minute features including the levelling system. Theirs a lot of stuff they still haven't unveiled yet too. Apparently their is more Pokemon GO features to be shown and their is also a feature that they say will really get Pokemon GO fans interested in the games.
@Alber-san it's probably just that they think they would have enjoyed the game if the catching mechanics were different. I think it would have been a good idea to remove random encounters as they did, but when you take on a Pokemon you see, you get to battle it first, like in the real games.
@thesilverbrick You realize these games aren't in the same series right? This is a new series of games while they work on Gen 8 games, which are to be released next year. Calm yourself.
@thesilverbrick Is there anything you don't hate? Of course those things are gone. This is a Pokemon YELLOW remake. Those things did not exist in Pokemon Yellow.
@thesilverbrick
Um....
I compared between Pokemon and Final Fantasy games in term of Battle System.
Did you know from FF 3 to FF 4 , FF 6 to FF 7, FF 8, FF 10, FF 12, FF 13 were a Huge Change in Battle System ?
From Turn Based to Active Time Battle, then going Semi Action RPG, then become Action RPG. Final Fantasy changed quite much for each series.
So, i guess the Major changes on Pokemon was very Natural despite it might has some impact for some gamers.
Keep the same old song, some gamers complain. Change the features, still a lot of complaints.
Some changes are needed to keep the ideas still fresh.
It may have some consequences but better than change nothing.
I think it's worth noting that their stock price lost far more than it gained today just over the last two weeks. So really this is a nice recovery and not a huge gain for the year. I think these gains will be given back leading up to E3 as investor are always nervous about Nintendo not doing enough. What matters is post E3 and keeping those Switches moving off the shelves.
@Strumpan
And I can understand that (except I don't think battling pokemon before capture is such a deal breaker). But people are calling this game only for casuals and not for the hardcore just because of that.
👏👏👏happy for them
@thesilverbrick I keep hearing that wild Pokemon battles are out, but I don't see why people think this. Is it because all you see is people catching wild Pokemon and not battling them. I still see tall grass as well as Pokemon running along the tall grass. I'm guessing they are only showing the portion of wild battles when you choose your ball and throw it in hopes of catching a wild monster. I'm not too certain about the other deeper systems but I don't see Gamefreak abandoning those, specially since they don't disturb gameplay and have existed alongside the core game without a need to use them. A lot of folks still consider Pokemon for kids and casuals as it stands now, even with all those deep systems you love.
Will the pokemon bank be transferable? For at least the first I hope 151.
@Alber-san I just don't like the GO mechanics because it feels like they are making things over simplistic, and dumbing down pokemon mechanics. I can understand doing these for the style of game they were going for with Pokemon GO for mobile, but this is a console/handheld game where you can do so much more. Instead they decide to use those mechanics that are too simplistic. It's not about casual or hardcore it's about over simplified mechanics to me when I know they could have done better instead of pigeon holing stuff into this game.
@KcebEnyaw Oddly enough, the original Yellow had featured that are removed in this remake. Wild battles and effort values existed in the original first generation. This is a dumbed down game.
@thesilverbrick they never said these games wouldn't be in depth
Exciting times! Hopefully there will be something in each of the Pokemon games to keep everyone happy. People need to remember we still don't know the game mechanics or story line in full. I am not judging till we get some more info
@sashj @Darthroseman I acknowledge the future core games in my original comment. Go back and read it.
@thesilverbrick You have no Idea if EVs have Been Removed. They very well could have been kept in place or changed to a new better system. The Whole IV/EV System has been completely broken since the series came out anyway. Random encounters, on the other hand, have always been the Worst Part of Pokemon. They suck when you're trying to Travel, they suck when you're Trying to Collect Pokemon and they Suck when you're trying to Train Pokemon. I can't think of a single Positive reason to keep random Encounters in the game. You could make the argument that you should have to fight to weaken wild Pokemon, but the only thing that ever really added to the game was accidentally killing a weak Pokemon you were trying to catch. The only battles that actually matter in a Pokemon game are trainer battles and legendary battles.
@KcebEnyaw From a post on Serebii: “When asking about EV training Pokémon, IGN reveals that the team wanted to simplify things with how you level up, raise & train your Pokémon.”
@thesilverbrick,
They are just trying to keep everyone happy,and there is no doubt in my mind the new additions will push Switch sales this holiday season...which has to be good no matter what side of the fence you are on.
I think the stock price probably actually went up b/c of "Pokemon Quest", Its free to start on Switch now but on mobile next month, and there are literally a BILLION more mobile devices in the world than Switch. And it's a free-to-start game that has plenty of things for people to spend money on, starting w/ a $29.99 DLC bundle, $4.99, $7.99 and $9.99 packs adn $4.99 and $2.99 tickets to play the game longer.
So free-to-start Pokemon Quest on mobile will probably wind up making them more money than these 2 games on Switch. That's where the money is these days, mobile. Not a single Quest mention in the article though.
I miss the days when people were excited about a reveal like this, these days all people do is get triggered and emotional about how the game will not live up to their dreams, damn snobs. I loved every second of the games trailer and I am hyped, can't wait until november!
I am a huge fan of the original, the card game and Pogo so I am totally gonna get into this. There is a lot of questions. Despite not having wild encounters we are still catching in the wild. It is Kanto and will contain the initial 151 Pokémon so I'm stoked about that. GTS is probably not gonna be supported or will be mentioned later on. IV system must be identical to Pogo, but breeding won't exist since this is the Kanto region. I'm still psyched. I want that Pokeball Plus remote. I'm taking my Pikachu to work ya'll!
" It might not be in the same league as when Pokémon GO was first released - the initial hype of that game saw an astonishing 25% jump in share price back in 2016 - but the new games' connection with the mobile sensation could well be a contributing factor here."
Except, this time it actually is Nintendo's product and profits....
@rjejr Eh, the day trader investors think the money is in mobile, sure. Those investors are also utterly stupid. They know nothing of anything in the world, they only follow figures on a graph and predict based on them. By the time Apple/Google take their cuts out of sales, plus the very unstable natures of mobile it shoots up like a rocket and then 72 hours later is dead. A few companies managed to exploit it well but it's an endless spiral for everyone else. Apple and Google make money on mobile. King manages to (for now) Rovio had the bottom fall out, and even Zynga is a distant memory. Gameloft fell through the cracks. It's a short term profit. Investors love short term windfalls because they intend to bail quick, leaving the company holding the bag. Let the investors buy in for their imaginary money. They're not going to get what they think they're going to get. They never do. There's a billion more devices, and ten billion more competitors. I'd rather compete against one store in a mall with a daily traffic of 500 than compete against Amazon's entire marketplace with the whole Earth's population in play.
They've been throwing money forever at companies that never actually turned a profit.
Announcement of new entries in massive franchise improves a company's share price.
Shocking!!!
Lmao.
@RandomNerds
Thx for your post, wanted to point out the same thing. NTDOY is about 10% down compared to 3 months ago. Volume is low before E3. But this today was a bit of a recover. Maybe the stock is cheap now or well priced.. investors are waiting to see what E3 brings.
@marck13 Exactly. I doubled my money at 54 per share and got out then in had that big drop so I was pretty lucky. Getting back in before this pop would have been great. I think I'll leave it alone at least through E3.
Nintendo is so doomed after this reveal. Ow wait Nintendo is flourishing like a bonsai tree lol.
I am really hyped about this. Yes u caught me (34 years old) playing pokemon haha
I'm on board 100%. I love Go and also love this.
@NEStalgia You do realize you made my argument for me, not against. We are talking about a mobile announcement and day traders sending the stock up hours later. When it comes back down a few days from now we'll know it was about Quest, not Let's Go.
And you left out what very important variable. Competing against Amazon or stores in the mall isn't the deciding factor, it's what you have to offer thats' important, and Pokemon is a bigger deal than 98% of the games on mobile. See Pokemon Go vs the game it copied that made no money, Indigestion or something.
The same thing happened with Pokemon GO, then people found out that the pokemon company isn't the same thing as Nintendo, then NTDOY dropped hard.
Sigh... alright... we gotta do this again. Everybody say it with me:
"A one-day jump in stock price is not indicative of long-term success or failure."
Articles like these are useless. Quarterly earningd/losses are really the only useful stock numbers to look at. Everything else is hot air.
It is because everyone knows a Pokemon title will move units. With the Let's Go titles this year, and the main series titles next year, investors know the Switch is gonna keep on chugging right along. Pokemon is a name that always sells! Even USUM being 92% the same game as Sun and Moon still sold rather well.
@thesilverbrick I think you're over-exaggerating when saying this game is casual-only. I really like Pokemon games, i like all the depht and choice that those games offer. But i still like what i'm seeing of this game. The multiplayer especially excites me.
Besides, you don't know how much they removed from the game. I'm pretty sure they didn't say they were removing online features. (The guy that reported there would be no online features was actually mistranslating)
@JWesCampbell,
Nintendo owns 33% of the Pokémon company,the other 66% is split between Game Freak and Creatures,it is assumed the other two parties have an equal share of the remaining 66%.
However Creatures was founded in 1995 by Tsunekazu Ishihara with the assistance of Satoru Iwata,and it is known that Nintendo have an undisclosed percentage of this companies stock,Nintendo also have shares in Game Freak.
So Nintendo will more than likely have a controlling percentage of the overall company,otherwise why would the Pokémon company have not gone third party by now?....the extra profits would have been off the charts.
@rjejr True enough. Though I do think Go was a fad much like the Wii. People jumped in because of the social network echo effect and nostalgia for old Pokemon, and for some "to see what was about." I don't think a mobile Pokemon ARPG with Minecraft-ish characters will have the same effect
@NEStalgia "Minecraft-ish characters"
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Probably if you ask any kid whats' better than Pokemon or Minecraft they'd say Pokemon in Minecraft.
Quest isn't Pokemon or Minecraft though, it's just, well not really much of anything. Rumble World on 3DS was SO much better. They should have ported a sequel of that to Switch, save Quest for mobile.
I can see Quest making money though if they add the new regions and Pokemon every few months. They did that w/ Shuffle and Go. The game takes place on an island so they don't need the boat unless they are planning on making more islands later, 1 for each region. Who knows, maybe they'll sell the rest and this whole game is just a demo?
What's the stock price doing today? I'll bet down.
Are you going to report that investors have changed their mind and the shares are down nearly to what they were before the announcement?
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