How time flies, eh? We're already more than three months into 2018 and that can only mean one thing - E3 2018 is only around the corner. The centerpiece of the gaming calendar is where everyone will be looking come June, but that doesn't mean the release schedule is barren in the lead-up. In fact, Nintendo Switch has some huge new additions coming to its retail library in the next few months.
We've collected together ten must-have new titles arriving in physical form in the run-up to E3, and another five that are either launching just after or are likely to do so. You'll find links to all the games below if you're looking to pre-order any (or all) of them, as well as a handy poll (because we know you love a good poll) for your delectation. Enjoy!
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Nintendo Labo - 20th April (North America) / 27th April (Europe)
One of the biggest - and most anticipated exclusives of the year - Nintendo's new cardboard revolution promises to be a genuine game-changer in a medium crying out for something new, exciting and innovative. We've already gone hands-on with the two main packs launching on 27th April (the Nintendo Labo: Toy-Con 01 - Variety Kit and the Nintendo Labo: Toy-Con 02 - Robot Kit) and with plenty of extras to be found on the official Nintendo store if you pre-order from there you'll have all the bits and bobs you need to turn your Switch into an inventor's playroom.
South Park: The Fractured But Whole - 24th April
Heavily rumoured and finally confirmed during last month's Nintendo Direct, the turn-based RPG sequel from Ubisoft San Francisco is coming to Nintendo Switch by the end of the month, bringing with it a story written by and voiced by series creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker. The follow-up to 2014's The Stick Of Truth, SP:TFBW refines its battle system and adds in even more black humour with its superhero-themed antics. A must-have for any turn-based fans with a Nintendo Switch.
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze - 4th May
With Wii U now dead and buried, Nintendo continues to rescue its best exclusives, updating them and porting them over to the far more successful (and very much alive) Nintendo Switch. The full Tropical Freeze experience will be present on Nintendo's new console - including loading times that are half that of Wii U - plus the addition of a new Easy mode for younger players and the arrival of cool dude Funky Kong to complete the primate family in time for May.
Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition - 18th May
Combining content from both the Wii U and 3DS versions into one package, the Dynasty Warriors-style Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition includes every map and mission, plus all 29 playable characters from both incarnations. With all this extra content on one platform, you'll also get access to some new outfits for Link and Zelda based on The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild. A port, but one that's definitely worth picking it up if you missed it the first time round.
Little Nightmares: Complete Edition - 18th May
On the very same day as Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition, Tarsier Studios' unique mixture of plaforming, stealth, environmental puzzles and horror will make a scary splash on Nintendo Switch. As its cryptic name suggests, this version bundles in the full 2017 base game with all the DLC you could possibly want or need. The game will also be compatible with your Pac-Man amiibo, well, because its published by Bandai Namco...
Runner3 - 22nd May
The latest instalment in the zany BIT.TRIP series, Runner3 continues the misadventures of CommanderVideo as he sprints, leaps and floats his way through all manner of colourful 2.5D levels. The same, addictive music-rhythm formula returns, with developer Choice Provisions adding in myriad new modes to keep you running, including Hero quests, vehicle sequences, branching paths, an item shop, new collectibles and much more. A high-speed platformer that's not to be missed.
Mega Man Legacy Collection 1 + 2 - 22nd May
When the first Mega Man Legacy Collection arrived on 3DS in 2015 it packed in the first six games in the classic Capcom platforming series and brought back all the feels (and the frustrations) from Nintendo's yesteryear. Well, that impressive package is making the leap to Nintendo Switch and it's bringing volume two along with another collection of must-have Mega Man hits. You'll also get all of the fan-made challenges from the 3DS version of MMLC to keep you playing long into 2018.
Dark Souls: Remastered - 25th May
At the end of May, mere weeks before E3 descends upon us, FromSoftware's seminal action-RPG draws its rusty blades and brings Lordran's darkest denizens to Nintendo Switch. You'll be getting the full Dark Souls experience on Nintendo's handheld system, with a handful of subtle changes (including remapping jump to the left analog stick and the ability to use multiple Hard Souls at once). Oh and there's a Solaire of Astora amiibo. What more reason do you need to get excited?
Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection - 29th May
To celebrate 30 years of hadoukens, spinning bird kicks and sonic booms, Capcom has bundled together 12 classic entries in the series - from the original Street Fighter to Street Fighter 3rd Strike - so if even if you have a passing fondness for the series this retro package will get you in the mood to travel the world kicking ass. You'll be able to take a handful of them online too, so you can finally prove just how good you are to all your friends (and some complete strangers).
Runbow: Deluxe Edition - 8th June
On 24th April, the colourful brawling action of Runbow - which has already handed out some beatings on 3DS and Wii U - will be bringing the pain to the Nintendo Switch eShop. And a couple of months later, the game will be hitting retail shelves with an imposing physical edition. The multiplayer mayhem will come with all the DLC for the game, along with some tantalising physical goodies for all your collectors out there.
Mario Tennis Aces - 22nd June
The next big first-party release following the launch of Nintendo Labo in April, is the slice and dice court-based drama of Mario Tennis Aces. The latest smash hit from the Big N brings back the much-missed Story mode, adds in some explosive arcade moves for blistering offence and rocks-sold defence, and all the characters and costumes you could possibly want in a tennis game. And just in time for Wimbledon 2018 in the summer!
Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy - 10th July
With summer in full swing, here comes the next big third-party release on Nintendo Switch. A year ago we would have laughed at the idea of a Crash Bandicoot game returning to a Nintendo console, but here we are, with the wumpa-fruit loving marsupial bringing the rebooted versions of Crash Bandicoot, Crash 2: Wrath Of Cortex and Crash 3: Warped together in a package that doesn't have the word 'PlayStation' anywhere near it. Vicarious Visions' port promises to bring the full platforming experience to your handheld very soon.
Octopath Traveler - 13th July
Square Enix's next big action-RPG - and one that won't feature the words 'Final' or 'Fantasy' in the title - is coming this summer and it promises to be one of the most enchanting experiences the genre has ever produced. As its name suggests, there are eight characters to choose from, each with their own unique personality, traits and skills that will all make a big impact on the world of Octopath Traveler. A deep and rewarding battle system awaits...
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker - 13th July
On the same day Square Enix releases the long-gestating Octopath Traveler, Nintendo will be unleashing the port of another journeyman character - Captain Toad! The original version was one of Wii U's best exclusives, so Switch owners will now be able to experience the full platforming charm of the titular explorer. The Switch port will include extra courses based on locations from Super Mario Odyssey, as well as packing in some fun two-player co-op action.
Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus - July/August?
Okay, so we don't know exactly when Wolfenstein II is hitting Nintendo Switch, but with Bethesda providing hands-on access at PAX East in Boston it's clear Panic Button's port is shaping up nicely and may well be approaching completion. Its over-the-top action, unrelenting difficulty spikes and genuinely surprising plot twists, the bloody sequel proved its worth on other console platforms last year so we've got our fingers crossed the Switch port is ready to lock and lock this summer.
Which Switch retail games are you most excited for? (1,495 votes)
- Nintendo Labo: Toy-Con 01 - Variety Kit4%
- Nintendo Labo: Toy-Con 02 - Robot Kit1%
- South Park: The Fractured But Whole4%
- Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze10%
- Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition7%
- Little Nightmares: Complete Edition2%
- Mega Man Legacy Collection 1 + 25%
- Dark Souls: Remastered9%
- Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection4%
- Runbow: Deluxe Edition 0%
- Mario Tennis Aces14%
- Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy7%
- Octopath Traveler15%
- Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker8%
- Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus8%
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So there's our list of best retail releases launching in the spring/summer of 2018 - just in time for E3. Check out Alex's lovely video covering the same list above. Oh, and feel free to drop a vote in the poll above and discuss which games you're most excited for in the months to come...
Yep, just what I thought: nothing but ports and old hat. Typically Nintendo, nothing interesting to play for months on end. The coming drought is going to be dryer than a hot day in the Sahara... /s
Yay - Amazon links. It's really a shame they did away with their preorder discount for Prime members a while back. I'm considering cancelling my subscription because that was the main reason I shopped on Amazon at all. Edit: See my comment #40.
Also - very few games of interest for me personally. Already played most of the first-party offerings on Wii U. Back to Splatoon until Smash comes out (I'm getting tired of Splatoon).
My three most anticipated releases are Gal Gun 2, Y's VIII, and Octopath Traveler. Not surprised Gal Gun isn't on this list, but Y's VIII seems like a pretty "major" release to me.
Will also probably get the Mega Man Collections and Hyrule Warriors: Definitive Edition.
@justin233 Prime members still get 20% off preorders. At least in the States.
Aces and Octopath for me. Really jazzed for both too.
I`m very interested in Dark Souls, Octopath traveler, Crash, Mario Tennis, Wolfenstein, South Park...
Truth to be told, the Nintendo Switch is providing way more than I anticipated. I mean, all these 3d party games are blowing me away!
@MisterMan I was being sarcastic, simply to be in before all the whining starts about how bad it all is, and how Nintendo isn't giving us enough games to play...
:/ I am whelmed
You missed one piece pirate warriors 3 definitive edition which releases a week before hyrule warriors (if I recall correctly).
Also the world ends with you.
There was literally an Amazon life shill post days ago; now another so soon? Ugh... >_>
They have ports for other systems, and not everybody had a chance to play these games. There are always more ports than there is original games. So what, as long as people have a chance to enjoy them. More power to them.
Just Hyrule Warriors (triple dip!), Mega Man Legacy Collections, Street Fighter Collection, Ys VIII, Mario Tennis Aces, and Runbow for me. I'll add Wolfenstein II if it runs good like DOOM.
That's alot of ports wow..
I will be buying some of these, however, I’m very bored with this list. You know it’s a slow season when a Mario sports game is the “highlight.”
@ThanosReXXX you think people can't complain that there are almost only ports upcoming for this fresh system?
The list is clear. Maybe two originals.. rest of them are ports. I think people ARE allowed to have some concerns...
But, yay Nintendo I guess..
@koekiemonster You saying Nintendo can't have multi plats? Get off ya high horse will ya. Not everyone owns multiple consoles.
so I bought a Wii U Portable without knowing
What does NL have against Ys VIII that they keep neglecting to put it on these lists they make. Release date has been confirmed for US and Europe to be end of June (and is a instabuy for me).
I'm looking forward to Tropical Freeze, Runner 3, Mega Man, Crash, and Wolfenstein.
Err... Ys8 on June 29th
That said - that is one sad list. Some overpriced ports/rehashed games. Wolfenstein 2 is $25 at this point. Why you need a PC or PS4 if you have a Switch. It pays for itself by just skipping a few of these old overpriced back catalog on Switch. AC: Origins is $29 and blows half of this list out of the water
I'm really hot for Tropical Freeze.
decided to skip Nintendo Labo for now.
i'll wait for the reviews on Labo before buying,
Nothing until Mario Tennis
Octopath, Runner3, and Crash for me! The first half of the year may not be too packed, but there's still some quality releases coming. Things seem set to pick up after E3 as well, with Smash, Yoshi, Fire Emblem, and possibly Pokenon all releasing around that time!
Also, quick correction @dom Octopath is a turn-based RPG, not action😃
Donkey Kong, Dark Souls, Mario Tennis, Ys VIII and probably Mega Man for me until Smash comes. That will keep me occupied for the rest of the year with the amount of play time i have. I know some people find these releases underwelming but i personally am happy with what is comming so far. Can’t play 24/7 anyway and i prefer my kids to do sports and play outside as main activity, not play the switch all day so we will not burn through our backlog quickly.
@ThanosReXXX ok, if you're excited about playing these games then great. The only new game on this list that interests me is Octopath Traveler. I'll be getting Dark Souls because that game has insane replay value, unlike the other ports on this list. In my opinion, this is a really weak lineup. I hope there's some upcoming indie games that can fill for this weak showing.
Easily the most anticipated one for me is Dark Souls Remastered! Can't wait to play that in portable mode.
There is some great games coming, but if you own more then just a Nintendo console and actually owned a Wii U this list looks kind of disappointing. I think Nintendo released so much the first year, they kind of forgot about the 2nd year.
We know great stuff like Smash Bros is coming, but lets hope other great games are announced at E3.
Labo, DK, Hyrule Warriors, Mario Tennis, Captain Toad, Octopath! Will be a solid few months for me on the switch. Great lineup so far in 2018!
@justin233 They did away with it?...it still works for me in the US. I save about $20 depending on the price of course before taxes.
As an example, I have pre-ordered the physical copy of Owlboy which is $29.99 but with the discount it is $23.99.
1. Octopath, 2. Wolfenstein, and 3. Mario Tennis
I cannot wait to play Tropical Freeze on Switch! Among other games this spring, I'm looking forward to Mario Tennis, Mega Man, and Octopath Traveler.
Really excited for Mario Tennis.
Only 3? Crikey...if this is a quiet first half of the year then I would receive a 24 hour ban for describing what I am during the second half of the year!
Looking forward to Octopath Traveler, and pumped for Street Fighter 30th! I noticed not too much love for Street Fighter in the poll results. Looking forward to playing online matches, and hoping the online community sticks around for a while. Been having a blast with Ultra Street Fighter 2 lately.
An intersting definition of Spring used for this article.
Edit. I see at the bottom of the article that it states spring/summer. Sneaky.
Good. Nothing to play. I'll be able to get on with my PS4 backlog.
@justin233 20% preorder discount still in effect in the US.
@Kynwal In Canada we are getting 10% on select pre-orders through Amazon Prime.
Little Nightmares, Runner 3,Dark Souls Remastered and Street Fighter Collection all within 12 days. So about £140 that's going to cost me plus whatever shoot-em-ups release over that period. Good job I'm not bothering with Hyrule Warriors or the Megaman Collection.
I'll also be picking up Mario Tennis Aces in June, can't wait for that,then Crash in July.
@Kynwal @Ralizah @Kanbei Really? I'm a Prime member and I tried to preorder Smash Bros Switch but it wanted to charge full price. Hmm... I'll have to look into it.
Labo, HW, SF, Octopath, DS, Aces, and likely Wolfenstein (I dont like shooters but this will be likely a support buy and give to my brother as a "hurry up and buy a switch!" present...) I haven't even touched my other systems yet. cleaning up my ps4 backlog is going to be a nightmare.
Edit: Forgot about Ys...darn you Nintendo for making me buy this game twice.
I promised myself I was gonna buy less games...you have failed me Ryu...
It doesn’t bother me at all that my Switch is in the closet right now, due to the lack of compelling AAA games. I know this is how Nintendo operates. Minimal AAA 3rd party support and rare AAA 1st party support.
But probably late this year or mid next year something decent will pop up. That’s works for me.
Yay Captain Toad!
My poor, poor wallet.
@justin233 Sometimes it takes a few weeks for the 20% discount to be applied after a listing goes live.
Funny how one of the few new games - Octopath Traveler - looks like it could be one of the oldest games.
We're getting Labo when schools out to do it outside in the sun and burn the excess cardboard in the fire pit. We did just get Kirby and the kids are still playing that.
So, waiting on E3 and playing the mile high backlog.
@datamonkey I’m so happy they decided to port it over. Along with Hyrule Warriors and Tropical Freeze, it’s one of the Wii U highlights I didn’t have the time to play.
Only Octopath Traveler for me.
Picking up LABO for my son too.
@Fake-E-Lee LOL. Sure. I rotate out icons for Perfume, the J-electropop music group. It's kinda my trademark here. Anyway. This is just from their newest single Mugen Mirai (Infinite Future) which I've been listening to pretty nonstop since it dropped. Just grabbed the PV and tossed it on Giphy.
I'm going to forgo my usual habit of switching icons when someone asks about it cuz I'm knee deep in putting out fires at work.
Getting the 20% discount for Donkey Kong Country and Hyrule Warriors. Annoyed that Megaman is finally showing up on amazon, but says that it's currently unavailable. Might just have to get it digitally.
@Agramonte "Tons of overpriced ports" Yeah, I could see this being a problem with Tropical Freeze and probably South Park (I'm not saying the subtitle...), but how are other games like Dark Souls, Crash Bandicoot, and even Runbow overpriced? They're definitely worth the price tags compared to a four-year-old game that only adds an OP'd character as the only new feature.
"rehashed games"...care to name one game that fits this description?
Only Octopath Traveller appeals to me there, along with Ys VIII. Will be a quiet summer for me on the gaming front as I have a few things to focus on.
@ThanosReXXX I sense a pessimist here.
@Ralizah I would say both Gal Gun 2 and Y's are bigger than Labo.
1. Nintendo LABO Toy Con 01
2. Street Fighter 30th Anniversary
3. Mario Tennis Aces
@Iggy-Koopa Yeah me too, I never got round to it on Wii U but loved the Toad levels in Mario 3D World. Will be a day 1 for me and this time I'll def get round to playing it!
@justin233 I've bought a number of games pre-ordered through them and gotten the 20% discount. They usually keep the retail price up until a week or two before release, when they change it. The problem I've had is that I haven't gotten the games on release day. Bayonetta and Mario Odyssey took until the following Monday to arrive, but only cost me $48. Just keep your eye on it and you should see it drop.
(In case it matters, I'm in the US, and don't know if it is different in the UK)
Too many games, not enough time. Great time to be a Switch owner.
Yes the 'Wii u port able' is really switching things up!
@koekiemonster That's indeed what I think, and besides that, it's an undeniable truth as well. There are more than enough games, and more new ones coming every damn week, and it also doesn't matter that there are ports among them. Every console gets ports, but somehow it's only a bad thing if they come to the Switch.
You don't hear people with Xboxes or Playstations crying an moaning as much as the supposed Nintendo "fans" here. It's disgusting. People need to stop projecting their own limited perspective on the actual situation.
And besides that, like another smart person in the comments section already said: not everyone owns multiple consoles, so for the Switch-only people, this is a perfectly fine list. Just because you don't like certain titles, or have already played them on another console, doesn't mean that it's a factually bad or uninteresting list of games. You're not the only gamer in the world, so having a bit of perspective before we start shouting "meh, only ports and games I've already played" might do a lot of you a world of good...
@MisterMan I never said I was excited to play these games, although some of them do have my interest. The only thing that I'm hoping for, is that people would take a more realistic stance for once, instead of one with blinders on.
If there's nothing in that list that interests you or anyone else personally, then there's literally nothing wrong with that, but what IS wrong (and quite ignorant) is projecting that personal view on the actual situation.
In other words: just because YOU don't feel these games are interesting or worth playing, doesn't mean that there's an actual software drought on the Switch. The simple fact is that there are more than enough titles ahead, with more coming almost every week, so there's no gap in there anywhere, so no drought.
The incessant complaining about that, and about ports, needs to stop because it's getting REAL old, real fast...
@20wonders I would kindly like to invite you to check out comment #6 before you judge me again...
Definitely not feelin Tropical Freeze and Hyrule Warriors. I wasn't a fan of them on the Wii U so I definitely won't be buying them again.
And this list doesn't even include Eshop only games... Theres so many good titles on the Eshop as well!
@justin233 yeah, definitely is still a thing, most recent game I got with it is Atelier. And just last week I finally got around to preordained Kingdom Hearts 3 and they applied the 20% off. That deal hasn’t gone anywhere.
@StephenYap3 Nop, Dark Souls and Crash are perfect for ports (I actually have a pre-order for Crash)
Hyrule Warrior and Tropical Freeze are crazy at $60. Assassin's Creed Rogue Remastered was 29.99 just this month and Nordic is matching the $25 dollars street price for BattleChasers on Switch. Bayonetta was also well priced.
The Switch still has gems in the line up. But some of the games make no financial sense. I spent $95 on NinoKuni2 and Alliance Alive this month but feel it was worth it... I just cant wrap my head around paying $120 dollars to re-play 2 remastered old games.
@rjejr What the hell is wrong with young people nowadays? They are the ones using these smileys and what not all the damn time, but somehow they fail to recognize sarcasm in a post that ends with "/s "
Somebody get me my meds, I feel a massive stress-related headache coming on...
Will pick up street fighter as long as it runs well. Will pick up Mario aces if it reviews well as the last one was shocking and I won’t get burnt like that again. Contemplating mega man and dark souls as well. Dark souls is reliant on the 30fps not being a problem. We will see. Def hoping for a big Nintendo title in the second half of the year that isn’t smash as I’ve never gotten into it but I won’t bet on that one
@ThanosReXXX at this point any post about releases is a minefield. Just don’t go in it’s safer 😂
@tobibra Those are both niche games (extremely niche, in the case of Gal Gun 2), whereas Labo will have mainstream appeal. But its inclusion is weird to me, considering it's clearly not a typical game, but more of an accessory.
@Mr_Pepperami Yeah, I probably should have thought of that before I posted. Oh well, damage done, and a few people none the wiser, I guess...
@Agramonte I dunno, seeing the amount of content added to the game (especially since all of the Wii U and 3DS content are being tied together), Hyrule Warriors is well worthy enough for me to put the $60 on without a worry. Tropical Freeze, on the other hand, is definitely crazy, especially since the Wii U game is at $20.
@ThanosReXXX That's what you get for being 1st post. Never be 1st post on NL, it only leads to abuse.
And no, they don't know what /s means. Well I take that back, they might know what it means if they bothered to read it, but most probably gloss right over it.
RIP my wallet. I am serious about 90% of this list as day-1’s for me.
@rjejr And here I was thinking that only counted for the losers that type "first!" for a first post...
@LUIGITORNADO ok bye.
@ThanosReXXX ur funny
@Fake-E-Lee WHAT? Perfume are goddesses of goodness, strobe lights and infectious beats. They would never hurt anyone! They are positivity in human form. sniff
@ThanosReXXX You might wanna bold that sarcasm tag master of the infinity gauntlet. Gonna fly over the heads of the new people that don't know you better.
@Ralizah I guess you are right. Buy hopefully Gal Gun still does well.
@StephenYap3 True - I guess it depends if you played HW on 3DS or WiiU.
I still want Tropical Freeze - just not at $60 - I'll wait for a sale I guess.
@Dom @subpopz @Drussa @Agramonte @Drussa @StephenYap3 Can anyone help me understand why the only Switch game that I've preordered is NOT on this list? It comes out June 26th.
Mostly ports and eShop games. Still nothing worth buying a Switch for.
Octopath Traveler is a day one buy.
I'm also preparing my dear wallet for South Park: The Fractured But Whole, Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze (but I definitely won't pay U$ 60 for this), Mario Tennis Aces, Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker and Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus.
@ThanosReXXX I agree fully. Ports are on EVERY console, Switch is being supported plenty, if someone mainly wants the latest sports game or shooter then yeah, Switch is probably not for them, but there’s hardly a drought. There’s nothing I want releasing in April, not about to complain there’s no games, I just don’t want those games. There’s stuff I want in May. The gaming community needs to chill.
@james_squared I blame Canada.
My aching wallet
I'm hoping to buy DKC:TF, but I already conquered it so I won't be willing to pay $60. If it drops to $30 I'd buy it.
Hyrule Warriors, on the other hand, I also conquered on Wii U, but I will be happy to pay full price for that one. Part of the reason is it has more replayability for me and part of it is I never bought any of the DLC and this comes with ALL of it.
I honestly HOPE people don't buy the DK at that price... There are a lot of good third party stuff coming out the next months, and the prices are normally pretty good. We SHOULD show Nintendo we are not fool, and we're not buying a PORT at a higher price than when it was originally released...
If ot sells bad, they'll drop the price. And THEN it will be worth it.
@Ralizah is Gal Gun 2 confirmed for NA? I know it was on PS4 but I never seen a confirmation for Switch
@ThanosReXXX you need to chill out man. it's like you just wanted to start a fight with everyone who has a different opinion on this lineup than you. just relax.
Definitely not a bad list, but none that really catch my interest for now. I already have South Park and Crash Bandicoot on PS4, and I plan on getting Street Fighter collection on there too. Hopefully that Mario Tennis game turns out alright. I still need to get that Kirby game.
@ThanosReXXX Well Slig isn't here so somebody has to take the abuse.
My poor wallet.... too many games I want in that list. Already preordered like 5, and watching some that can't be preordered yet.
I hope everyone buys the truly brilliant Captain Toad!
I am excited for that..Mario Tennis and Donkey Kong
Dear game developers
Please stop releasing ports! I am the only person whose opinion matters. You must develop games for only one platform and never port to another ... unless your platform of choice is one I don’t own (which I’ll admit is awkward, as I only have a Switch).
Also, don’t release sequels that blur the lines as to whether they are a genuine sequel, or an updated, reworked, semi-sequel.
And finally, don’t be too original. Why create a whole new style of entertainment that is exciting and has never been done before ... and do it out of cardboard! I’d rather you concentrated those efforts on ports and sequels. Aarrrgh!
[this letter writer imploded due to an excess of contradictory, self-serving and circular statements that have been repeated ad infinitum on Internet comments sections]
Why mention the Nintendo store and then not include a link to it?
@Bondi_Surfer Spat out my water, laughing. Why thank you.
Just mario aces and street fighter
@ValhallaOutcast Yep. You can even preload the Switch version if you buy it digitally from the NA eshop. It's due out on the 24th!
@leo13 No clue.
Looking forward to the Wii U ports the most despite having played them for many hours on Wii U.
Dang, my poor wallet/PayPal account. I could easily select over 3 games here and this list excludes Ys VIII.
I don't see Gal Gun 2, blade strangers or blaz blue cross tag team on the list.
@Dom How do you not have Ys VIII on here? It was in the Nintendo Direct and has a release Date for June 26th.
mega man collection (gotta double dip so i can have on Switch!)
hyrule warriors (never played HW nor a Warriors game ftm)
@Dom Nice tagline. All your bases are belong to us reference. Are you touting a reptilian takeover? Lol
@leo13 No idea man - have my Pre-Order also. And it has a 85 Metacritic - BEFORE - the switch improvements and the added "On The GO" value - at the same price as the PS4 version. This is a Gem on the Switch.
I cant wait! 😒📅
@Kynwal Seems to be a common theme. I'm sure we're sorry.
@Bondi_Surfer Or release subsequent games that might make the timeline of the franchise unclear. Thinking about Zelda here.
Nothing but ports till summer (Labo is something different)..very weak second year line up.... Wii U weak
Excited for Mega Man.and Donkey Kong. The rest I really couldn't care about.
Ya missed Ys VIII again.
Not only that, but you somehow left out BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle, Sushi Striker, and Lego Incredibles, which are three completely new titles - not ports, completely new games, and they all launch in the first half of June.
Also, if you're gonna include Wolfenstein like that then you should include SNK Heroines too, which is also a completely new game.
That's FOUR completely new titles that got left off this list that should be on this list.
I'm looking forward to Shining Resonance Refrain, Ys VIII and maybe even Fallen Legion: Rise to Glory more than everything on this list. You all care, right?
Super uninspiring list .
Most of what I'd be interested in I already played on WiiU (or another console).
That's ok I guess, I mean Nintendo is always telling me to stop playing and go outside. Summer is a great time to do that!
I didn’t even know that Street Fighter Collection was a thing! I’m looking forward to Ys as well. This gon’ be a good year, ya’ll.
@dimi Calling it Wii U weak is laughable, and not even remotely close to being true. Do you even remember the Wii U droughts? That system would go weeks on end without anything launching.
@Agramonte Ys VIII is incredible. It would have gotten even better reviews on PS4 if it had a better translation (I didn't think it was that bad, but they patched it and that's the translation that's on the Switch day one.) I'm very much looking forward to double dipping.
I can only vote for 3? Ok. My 3 most anticipated games are Octopath, DKC, Ys VIII, Mario Tennis, Mega Man, Street Fighter, Captain Toad, Dark Souls. I forgot how to count. Sorry. I already got my fill of South Park, Wolfenstein, Little Nightmares and Crash on PS4 and I recommend all of them.
Shouldnt the title be changed to spring / summer?
I thought steamworld 2 was getting a spring physical release?
The release schedule picks up considerably after Labo. There's a strong lineup heading into summer, where Switch should have pretty much all of the attention to itself outside of E3 week.
@GrailUK they can... If released for the same price and same year. As an owner of other platforms there is not much to choose for me.
Glad you like it though
Octopath Traveler for me, I think this game will be a masterpiece.
Runner3, Mario Tennis Aces, and MM Legacy are my most anticipated. Great pre-E3 lineup.
Damn, i've just wrote a list of all the Switch games i want in the coming months -
Hyrule Warriors Complete
DK Tropical Freeze
Mario Tennis Aces
Dark Souls Remastered
De Blob/De Blob 2
Legend of Kay Anniversary
Megaman Legacy 1/2
Megaman X (whenever it launches)
Little Nightmares Complete
How the hell am i going to afford them all ? !! lol
and yes i know there's a lot of ports but for me they are very welcome, i didn't get around to playing some of the Wii U games (i'm ashamed to say i did buy them all at launch but they fell straight into my backlog haha).
There's also some games like Kay and Okami that i played originally and loved and i am over the moon to be able to play them again on the newest hardware, so while i can see why some people get frustrated with too many ports, i personally welcome them with open arms
@ThanosReXXX I think people are allowed to say what they want. I played most of these games on other platforms. Why am I not allowed to notice the volume of late ports?
Why the strong language?
Just relax and let Nintendo do the marketing, ok?
I also think Nintendo has many unannounced, brand new Switch games to be revealed for this year, we know about Smash, Metroid, Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Yoshi and Pikmin already, then there are hints of new DK and Wario games plus whatever Retro is working on, and i'm sure they have more in the pipeline too so i wouldn't worry about all the ports lol
@Bondi_Surfer nailed it.
@GrailUK What's the difference between a multi-plat and a port?
@Grumblevolcano Looking forward to the Wii U ports the most despite having played them for many hours on Wii U.
Looking forward to paying my electric bill again even though I already paid it. So much fun!
Just Mario Tennis for me. But as I'm still playing Zelda and Spla2oon all is good. I intend to go back to my unplayed Wii U games too if I get time.
I expect Nintendo to announce new stuff at E3 to take us to Xmas...
Man, my bank account is mad at this post...
Oh boy, ports and ports and ports and ports!
@subpopz It is ironic though, that some of the people complaining about ports are the same who want VC so they can rebuy 10,20 or 30 year old games for the umpteenth time.
You can buy an $8 SNES game 15 times (or a N64 game 12 times) for the cost of buying a $60 game twice. So yeah you know, price might have something to do with it?
It's great that lots of new people will get to play some of the Wii Us best games for the first time but personally this list has very little of interest for me. The Switch is really running out of steam for me after a good first year
That's a killer lineup. Straight up. There's so many good games coming it's absolutely ridiculous. If you're not interested then go play something else or go play some other system.
But as for me, I'll take:
BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle
DKC Tropical Freeze
Mega Man Legacy Collection 1 + 2
Street Fighter Collection
Mario Tennis Aces
SouthPark Fractured But Whole
Captain Toad Treasure Tracker
Crash Bandicoot Trilogy
And I'm just getting warmed up. Man... Switch puts Vita and 3DS to utter shame. Vita got a port of Persona 4, Final Fantasy X and and a barely functional, borderline unplayable version of Borderlands 2 and people lost their collective minds. Switch gets actual legit games like Dark Souls, Wolfenstein 2 and Okami HD, complete with motion, full console and HD handheld with no cross save needed... and that's just in between the actual big exclusive releases.
Octopath Traveler and also Pirate Warriors 3, which for whatever reason you guys didn't see it fitting to be included.
Also Dark Souls Remastered, since I never had the chance to play it before. Also quite interested in the Crash Trilogy for similar reasons.
@Crono1973 'Multi plat' is a game that is released on multiple different consoles. 'Porting' is modifying code to run on a particular device and is the standard process of releasing games across platforms. In ye olde days you could have 'conversions', a game would be made from the ground up copying an original source like arcade conversions on 8-bit systems. (At least that's how I understand it and am happy to be proven wrong) And since porting is so standard these days, I sometimes interchange port with multiplat so I don't repeat myself
OPINIONS!!! My ~personal~ special and coveted view that I will take to the grave is...
I don't have a Switch yet!! But I missed out on enough of those Wii U games that I will probably pick up Treasure Tracker on Switch at some point in the next...3 years, instead of tracking it down on Wii U (I'll still beat Tropical Freeze, BotW on that platform, and mayyyybe later on repurchase BotW...maybe). Most of these games are new to me, and Octopath Traveler looks sweet. If they do a good job with Mario Tennis, it'll be a purchase sometime too. Looks like a pretty busy 'spring' to me, I guess some people are really on top of their gaming though. I understand the complaint about the pricing of ports.
@GrailUK Yeah they seem like interchangeable terms. I think that (this is just my opinion) that multi plat refers to the same game released on multiple systems at the same time. Like Skyrim coming out on the same day for the 360, PS3 and PC is multi plat. Whereas the later versions of Skyrim are ports.
@Crono1973 Eek, don't get me thinking too much, I confuse easily. Using your example, I see it as Skyrim was made for the system with the lowest horse power so that it fits on the other systems easier. (If they made it first on the highest settings there is more rejigging to do!) So one device has the actual game. The other 2 versions are ports. The later versions on X1 PS5 and Switch are remasters...and I can only assume that again, there is an original and the rest ports. And I am going to confuse myself again now by saying, obviously it wasn't made on Switch being the lowest horse power so an element of financial logistics apply. But either way...I totally know what you are talking about regardless
All the people complaining about this lineup must have been born after 2016, since they don't seem to remember a time when there really WAS nothing coming out on Nintendo platforms and a lineup like this would have been beyond their wildest dreams. The fact that they are less than two years old would explain all the whining, too. But kudos to them for mastering a keyboard at such a young age - I'm impressed more and more each year at how the little ones conquer technology!
@GrailUK The lead console last gen was the 360 and it was probably also the weakest but that's arguable. So if the 360 version is the only original and the PS3 and PC versions are ports then there where does the term multi-plat come in?
Now as for the remasters, the Switch version is a port of the remastered versions which were probably designed for the PS4 first as it is the lead console this gen.
Not much here for me. Mario Tennis Aces is the only thing that I have a slight interest in. Even still, $60 is a steep price for that.
However, coming right out college, even if I find a job I probably won't have much money at all for games, so the less the games I want the better. Sad, but true.
@TheLobster Nintendo is competing against the PS4 and the Xbox One, not the Wii U.
@Crono1973 Fair enough. I can live with that
@ThanosReXXX If Switch is your only console this is a great selection but if you have had a Wii U and either Xbox/Ps4/PC this gen then there are only 2 games on that list that are new: Octopath Traveler and Mario Tennis Aces. In that case it is definitely same as Wii U with the droughts. I am hoping this improves in coming years though snd end of 2018 is looking good with a Smash Bros and Fire Emblem.
I finally got around to playing the Octopath demo last night and was completely sold on the game. Also pretty excited about Crash and interested in Captain Toad.
Also, since when is July considered "spring"? Did I miss something?
Say what you will about the lineup being mostly ports or you’re not interested in any of them, but I say this - it’s nice having this many games to discuss that are coming in the next season. I can’t recall ever having an article this full of games coming soon for the Wii U. Those were dark days. Articles like this are proof that those days are behind us.
I'm pretty impressed not to see Ys VIII on that list. Along with OT, it's one of the most anticipated games around the community of JRPG fans!
I can't wait to play it.
@mjharper Most of those games are already here on other consoles. Why is the Switch ONLY compared to the Wii U and not compared to it's direct competition? Are you saying that the only way the Switch upcoming games looks good is when it's compared to the Wii U?
This lineup shows exactly why the Switch is dominating in Japan. When smash releases it's game over for the "competition" 😂
It's funny you ask for a big game and then immediately disqualify smash Bros. It's easy to be a sad troll when you move the goal posts, right? Keep living that sad life.
Are you kidding, there might be 3 games on that list I’m not getting. I need to be able to click more boxes. By the time summer ends, I’m going to be broke with a massive backlog.
I’m never reading these comments again.
SF Alpha 3 and 3rd Strike on the go (though I do have the PSP version of SFA3). Now I just need some Injustice, MvC and Capcom vs SNK. Also DK is tempting because the kiddos can play it now without it being too hard.
@ThanosReXXX hmm, can't tell if sarcastic or not
@StephenYap3 @rjejr How is South Park overpriced? It's extremely new, it only came out a few months ago on the other systems and costs the same price as those versions did at launch, in fact it's correctly priced
@Agramonte you have a point when it comes to DKC Tropical Freeze BUT I have to defend Hyrule Warriors here.. Hyrule Warriors DE includes ALL of the Wii U DLC, ALL of the 3DS Exclusive Content and DLC, Plus some new content, in fact the price makes perfect sense as it's completely packed with Content!
Runner 3 is only at 3%? That’s my most anticipated game of 2018 (pre E3) right there!
Not too excited about most of these titles. Will probably end up with DK, Aces, Captain Toad, and Y’s. If I get a good deal I’ll pick up Mega Man, I don’t want to pay the full $32 with Gamer’s Club for 1 collection and a code. If it had all games on the cart it would be day one.
@The_Gerudo_King what the hell are you talking about?? I said in my post that I’m not into smash. Was always a street fighter guy so I hope for another first party game from Nintendo more suited. How’s that being a troll? I’m allowed to not be into smash
It seems like NintendoLife has secret insider information on an upcoming Switch retail release of Zero Wing.
@leo13 @mauhlin12 woot!
That's a lot of games....
@Crono1973 I never said the Switch was competing against the Wii U...? Whatever.
@Agramonte @Dom Thanks for the pro tip on Ys VIII getting free DLC!!! Too Bad Nintendo Life seems to have forgotten about this game. I'm excited. I'll be getting Labo, Ys VIII, & Hyrule Warriors for sure. I'll also try the free trial of Dark Souls and if I like it I'll get that too.
Only want the splatoon sequel "octopath traveller"
@TheLobster Then why are you comparing the drought of the Wii U to the Switch release schedule? Why don't you compare the Switch release schedule to it's actual competition, the PS4 and the Xbox One?
Don't want to talk about it when the Switch release schedule looks bad?
@Crono1973 Ah, I see, you are a troll. The Switch release schedule looks great, btw, as I said in my initial comment. But then again, making up comments and pretending to misread posts to try to get people to engage is what trolls do. I'm not going to engage with you, troll.
Nice to see a lot of love for Octopath!
@PikaPlayz I played South Park as a rental and as good as it was for me, the amount of content, length, and such didn't really justify the $60 for me. Sure, there's the SP charm and characters and humor, but even those weren't enough to fit the bill for me.
It's not to say that I won't buy it later down the line, though.
@TheLobster Disagreeing doesn't make me a troll and I will report your post. You say the Switch release schedule is great ONLY because you compare it to the Wii U and no other console. I think your bias is showing.
@Agramonte No offense, Assassins Creed Origins to me is trashfire compared to most games on this list and no matter its reviews, there's nothing original about a game that rehashes over its predecessors time and time again.
If anybody has a problem with ports and multiplatforms hitting the Switch late, they should have the same criticizm towards a game like Origins. And this is coming from an owner of both PS4 Pro and a gaming PC.
Who are you trying to convince, me or yourself?
All that matters to me right now is the wait for Metroid Prime 4 and Super Smash Bros. Got to get through the rest of the Spring.
Oh, and Donkey Kong too I suppose, because, you know.... Retro Studios.
Where is the option for Nothing?
Because I will be skipping everything on that list, done own what interest me on other consoles. But I might actually pickup Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze again for the switch when it get's a price drop for $30.
@The_Gerudo_King You do know that you can actually own a Nintendo Console and not be into Super Smash Bros right? Because I also never really got into/ care for them either like @Mr_Pepperami said hopefully Nintendo Will have some more AAA First Party games at E3 for Us. I want a New 2d Super Mario Bros. game that isn't mario maker.
Damn, so many WiiU games, nintendo really should give people who already own the WiiU version a option to upgrade it to switch version for a cheaper price, this is such a kick in the nads to everyone who supported the WiiU.
@The_Gerudo_King I’m not trying to convince you of anything. Thought possibly you just read my comment wrong but I see you for what you are now. Keep being like this you’ll go far in life. All the best
@mowerdude thanks for seeing the comment as totally reasonable but he’s just one of those people. Best ignore him.
@SneakyStyle Yep and all the people who say 'but many people didn't get to play the Wii U versions because they never owned a Wii U" confuse me. It's like Nintendo should be trying to appease the people who didn't support them last gen while giving a big middle finger to those of us who did support them last gen.
I have no sympathy for people who chose not to buy the Wii U but want to play Wii U games.
South Park, Mega Man, Dark Souls, Street Fighter, Octopath, Crash, Wolfenstein, and Ys, too? It's going to be a busy next few months!
Octopath Traveler is the only essential game for me there, and maybe Tennis if the reviews are good. Most of the others I already own or played before.
Really Nintendo? South Park? A disgusting, racist vile excuse for a show on a console dedicated for family experiences? Well I must say I’m disappointed with the direction they are going recently, first Bayonetta and now this? When we have games like this we don’t end up being that different from the dude bro public who play PlayStation and Xbox.
Not happy about this at all, I think people need to organise some sort of letter writing campaign to let them know this isn’t what we want, we play Nintendo because their games are happy, upbeat and colourful. They are supposed to be a safe space from the disgusting world around us, how can anyone honestly let their kids browse the e-shop now that these sort of games will be on there with easy access. I’ll try and organise something after church tonight folks, I’ll keep you updated.
@TheMONADO36 Holy cow.
@TheMONADO36 it's called parental control look it up
I’m really excited for Dark Souls but also really excited for Mario Tennis Aces. It looks like it’ll be a lot of fun!
Hyrule Warriors is the big one for me, as I don't have any of the previous systems it was on. Assuming the port is not botched. By now Omega Force has gained a bit of a bad reputation.
@TheMONADO36 You funny guy. I kill you last.
@ThanosReXXX I see that sarcasm, but honestly, unless you own only a Switch, or portability is your Overlord and all that matters, it is kind of droughty. Been around 2-3 months myself since I bought a Switch game, and plenty of weeks since I've played mine, as the dust has settled on it.
Push comes to shove, anyone with a third-party machine where they prefer their experiences due to them being objectively better than on Switch, and not a need for portability for whatever reason, will feel that these coming months are a drought, and I honestly can't blame them for it.
Has me thinking I really should buy a PS4 at some point.
To me complaining that "Switch has mostly ports" is like passing by a restaurant and going "I had sushi for lunch already. How can this be appealing to anyone ? I don't understand how they're not out of business yet !"
cc @ThanosReXXX @GrailUK
@Tibob One's favourite or absolutely loved food is hard to pass up, even if you did have it before. That's not being likened to playing a game, since there's a good chance you've played it to death, so what's the use of buying it again then? Oh wait, PORTABILITY, right.
@Tibob Spot on sir
Just like one's "absolutely favourite game"...
Anyway my point was not that we should keep playing the same games over and over. What I meant is that it's a very subjective point of view, relying on one's own experiences (=not all of us had Sushi for lunch). So complaints should remain on that note : "Not much for me : I've played most of these games already" is not the same thing as "What a drought ! There's nothing to play on this console !"
PS : I agree with you on one point : the "portability" argument has to stop. Everyone has by now understood that the Switch was a hybrid.
You skipped Ys. Other than that, the only game on this list that is exciting for me is Octopath. Overall, its a very weak lineup for me
@GrailUK @Crono1973 That's not really how porting works. The games are developed on a PC first. Yes, they absolutely have in mind the "weakest" system and they take that into consideration, but they wouldn't necessarily be developing that one first and porting to the other systems. They are developing their game, taking into consideration all of their target platforms, and making system specific tweaks if needed.
As for the terms multi-plat and port, they are different, but the way the terms are often used makes them fairly interchangeable. Port simply means taking a game designed for one system and tweaking/re-writing portions as necessary to make it work on another. Multi-platform games may would have gone through that process up front. The main difference would be, if a game was never designed with portability in mind, say a Wii game for example, it may take advantage of certain features (Waggle) or libraries that make it more difficult to port in the future. Multi-plat would have been designed with things like that in mind from the start, and likely avoided many of the pitfalls that makes the porting process so difficult.
Where is Ys VIII???
@the_beaver agree, Ys VIII on NS is one of my top games for the summer
@roadrunner343 Ah thanks for that
@Tibob You don't have to pay $300 upfront for the honor to buy Sushi at the restaurant you just passed. If you did you may want more exclusive food at the restaurant you paid $300 upfront to.
@MisterMan No, not really. I actually did NOT want a fight (or 14 messages in my inbox). What I would have liked, is a comments section not ruining a positive article with the usual suspects and a few others constantly complaining and moaning.
The world is bigger than you, your opinion is not fact, and looking at it with an objective view, regardless of our own tastes and likes, a logical person would recognize this list as a good one, and he/she would also see that there is no shortage of games coming to the Switch. But I guess complaining is easier than finding the positive in something, as always...
@ShadJV Thanks for understanding my point.
@rjejr I'll take the abuse AND the likes. Now I understand why he always gets so many...
@koekiemonster If you think that is strong language, then it would seem that your skin is rather thin. It just baffles and annoys me that people can always be so negative about something that's actually good news. There's a lot of stuff coming, and like I already said: it's perfectly fine if you personally don't think that there's much of interest in that list, but it doesn't equal a software drought or the Switch only having bad or old games.
Other people don't have other consoles, so they haven't had a chance to play these games yet. And you having played them already doesn't mean they're all of a sudden bad or lesser games.
Complainers in general (not pointing at you specifically) always find ways to continue their behavior by moving the goal posts:
negative person: "The Switch doesn't have enough games"
positive person: "Yes it does, look at the release list"
negative person: "But those are all ports"
positive person: "No, not all of them. Look at these games"
negative person: "But those are indies. I only want triple A games"
positive person: "Well, those ports you mentioned, are triple A"
negative person: "But I already played those on other systems"
positive person: "Well, you don't HAVE to buy them, and some of them might be worth a replay, especially now that they can be played on the go"
negative person: "But I don't play in portable mode, so it's of no use to me"
positive person: "Okay, fair enough. And what about the games from Nintendo themselves then?"
negative person: "What? You mean all these old Wii U re-releases and only a single new game every other month? Why do they even do that? That's pathetic... "
positive person: "Well, from their point of view it's pretty logical. The Wii U failed, and these games cost a lot of money to make and market, and now with the Switch being so successful, these games have a new chance to finally reach their full potential. And seeing as many people never even bought a Wii U, it's more or less a whole bunch of new games to them"
negative person: "Yeah, that's all nice, but I still don't like it, and I want to have the right to complain about it... "
And so on, and so on...
Seriously, how can any sensible person see that as a good thing to do? See nothing you like? Move on, don't buy, play on another console that DOES fulfill your needs. There's really no need to complain about it ALL the damn time. And the benefit is that people like me subsequently wouldn't have to point that out all the time either...
@brutalpanda No, sorry, but it's not. A software drought is a universal thing and a factual thing, not an opinion. It can always happen that the games on offer simply don't interest you, and that is okay, because it is your personal opinion/taste, but that DOESN'T mean that there literally aren't enough games or not a lot of games coming to the Switch.
Heck, there's new titles being announced every week. Some people are more selective than others, and I can even imagine with more than a hundred titles on offer, that there would STILL be some people only being interested in 1 or 2 titles, but that can't be helped.
It still doesn't take anything away from the fact that stating that there's an acute software drought on the Switch is total and utter BS.
@PikaPlayz Oh, trust me: definitely sarcastic. There was a smiley with its tongue sticking out in my first post, and an "end sarcasm" sign at the end of the comment (looks like this: /s)
@MFD No, no drought. No offense, but fables and facts are mixed up all too often by all the complainers here. The rest of what I would say to you in reply to your comment, I have already said to the others in this reply...
@Tibob Exactly. Luckily, another person who understands.
@Bondi_Surfer Nail on the head, my friend. Nail on the head...
I want Hyrule Warriors but don't want to do all the level grinding all over again.
@Ryu_Niiyama I'll try to remember that, the next time I'll make an earth-shattering first post. That is: if I ever decide to do something so useless again...
Hey people, look at all these great games coming to the Switch!
But all joking aside, there really is quite a lot coming our way, so sit back and enjoy these videos, if you dare:
WARNING: Some titles may be mentioned twice, because of the different sources I used, so please don't shoot me down over that...
@PikaPlayz I don't recall mentioning South Park or anything being over priced in this thread. Not saying I didn't, I comment on here a lot and forget half of what I write, but I think you may have confused me with somebody else on this one.
The only game that is probably overpriced is DKCTF b/c it was $50 on won Wii U - also in HD so no remaster necessary as it still looks mostly the same - and $60 on Switch, and it's an old port which has already been on 3DS, and you can buy the Wii U game now for $20 as a Select, but I don't recall talking about price.
@ThanosReXXX Are you sure you got everybody?
I liked your positive - whiner conversation - though I think your wrong and I agree with the other person and the fact that you wrote "whiner" rather than "negative" as the opposite of "positive" shows your bias and is hurting rather than helping your argument. But it's still funny b/c we just had Passover and there's a whole portion on the "4 children" - you can google it - that reads a lot like that.
@rjejr Point taken, I'll edit the word out. The thing is, once a negative thing, and especially a person, starts to grate, it becomes more than negative and then I can't help but consider them to be whiners: complaining because of the hell of it or because they think their opinion is somehow a fact or perhaps valid for everyone.
So yeah, if that means I'm biased, for NOT being such a negative ninny, then I guess I am. But I'll listen to you, for once. I'm in a relatively positive mood today...
As for the rest of it: I'm definitely not wrong, though. There's ABSOLUTELY no software drought to speak of on the Switch, and that was my main point. There could be a thousand games and some people could still not be interested in most of them, but that just means that they're very selective or that they have a very specific taste, but it does NOT mean that there's not enough games available on the Switch in general. That has objectively and factually been proven to be false.
Whoever told you there would be a lot of exclusive Sushi on Switch obviously lied to you. If need the games you play to be played only by people owning the same system you have, you might be happier some place else : there's "exclusives" coming (namely Nintendo games) but they won't be that many.
@ThanosReXXX Hey, nobody is more negative than me. OK, well I really used to think that but then the past few years on here have shown that to be not really true at all, but in all my arguments with JaxonH, the most positive person on here I know, who attracts more whack jobs than you do, I've always thought of it as "half-glass-full" vs "half-glass-empty". We are both looking at the same thing but it's just our interpretation that's different. And once you realize that facts don't change it's just our personal opinions that are different, well everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Of course some people are really bad at getting their opinion across w/o sounding like a troll.
@rjejr Of course, I agree that everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but the difference here, especially in this thread, is that I am NOT commenting/viewing from a personal opinion, I'm looking at the facts and figures, and those are telling me, and any other objectively inclined person, that the Switch is literally being flooded with new titles almost every week, so there is no drought, period.
Not because I think so, but because their factually isn't. No difference in opinion or glass half empty vs glass half full view can change that. Some may consider a mountain to be a hill, and that's their personal opinion, but the fact remains that it's still a mountain regardless of their personal opinion...
@Tibob So you are indeed abandoning your bad analogy?
Of course not. What do you mean ?
@ThanosReXXX I almost always agree with you, but here, I must respectfully disagree. First, you can't really factually say there is no "drought" - because obviously, literal droughts do not exist in video games. I know I'm stating the obvious there, but I think it's important. When you say drought, it clearly means something different than when the negative people use the same term.
As someone that loves my Switch, I love indies, I have a large backlog, etc... I'm not having issues finding things to play. Though admittedly, to me, this is a bit of a slow period for me as well. I find this list to be slightly underwhelming as well. I don't mean that in an overly negative way - lulls are bound to happen at certain times of the year, and as you say, I don't need to purchase the games if I don't like them. You'll hear no complaints from me on this topic, I've got plenty of other stuff to play in my backlog and the existing library is great.
With that said, although I don't see the current lull as a problem, I certainly understand how other people would. Out of the 16 titles listed in this article, 11 of them are ports/re-releases and 2 of them are Labo, which certainly will not appeal to all. That leaves 3 new/original titles. As for people that say indies don't count, that's just stupid and I refuse to acknowledge their opinion =) But I can also very easily understand how they would classify this period as a drought. Attempting to argue otherwise, in my opinion, is pretty futile, since the term is entirely subjective anyway.
EDIT: I also forgot to mention that I definitely plan on picking up Dark Souls Remasterd, Treasure Tracker, and I may double dip on Mega Man Legacy collection... so I don't mind the re-releases either.
@Tibob Buying a game is nothing like buying food at a restaurant. You don't need to buy a $300 membership (the console) before you can buy food (games) there.
@TheMONADO36 I can't tell if you are serious or not. You know all game systems have a plethora of genres and ratings of games right? You play what appeals to you and skip what doesn't video games, including Nintendo Systems have always worked that way. No need for a petition. Just don't buy the game you don't like. I for instance also detest south park, but I'm happy that the switch is getting it because there is somebody out there that loves south park and wants to play that game and now they can play it on their switch. More games for everyone.
@ThanosReXXX lol, don't forget to say FIRST next time. I hear that is a popular thing to do nowadays. lol.
Also everyone knows Switch cartridge taste very bad. That was as good a way to prove me wrong.
@ThanosReXXX Drought it isn't, I'd consider that to be more a factual word in the gaming community, some words take on a life of their own, roguelike, MMO, FPS, CGI, JRPG, indie, FTP. Those things may not have any meaning to non-gamers, but within the gaming community people tend to know what they mean. I think drought is one of those words. It could probably be argued that 3DS is going thru a drought right now. I know Detective Pikachu just released so it isn't dead yet like the Vita, so it's a 3DS drought. Even though it has a game a month for the summer apparently, but right now after Pikachu it's a drought. Be hard for anyone to argue otherwise I think.
So no, certainly not a drought.
For anybody who owns a Wii U though, certainly not a stellar few months. Looks a lot like year 1 and 2 on PS4 as I think someone above listed those games for each year. I'm certainly not excited about it. But I'm an old man, nto the target audience, so nobody, myself included, cares about me. But I do think ti's more telling my 13 and 15 year old sons, who I'd consider to both be big gamers, every day for at least an hour, have really expressed no interest in any of these either. They can't wait for SSB, Pokemon and the long completed Pikmin 4, and preferably a Super Mario Maker sequel, they'll likely pass on SMM:Deluxe, but those aren't on this list. Neither is God of War, Spiderman, DQXI, MHW, DBFZ, Far Cry 5, RDR2 or numerous other games either out now or coming soon. So I most certainly understand the complaining. It isn't a drought, but it isn't a list of games for Wii U owners, or even non-Wii U owners.
You know it's really kind of funny, the only people who probably should own a Switch are Nintendo fans, who should have already purchased a Wii U and played a lot of these games. Non-Nintnedo fans may have purchased one for Zelda and a few other first year games but then they probably arne't expecting much and are back to their primary console, whether that's PS4 or X1. I'd suggest the only people who really benefit are the 60 million or so 3DS owners who never owned a Wii U b/c they can now upgrade from 3DS to Switch and get to play all of the games they missed out on by not owning a Wii U bc/ they are handheld gamers. For them the Switch is the 3DS successor. And I think for that it works perfectly and it's great for them, and there are about 60 million of them. Maybe 50m w/ all the people who bought more than one.
So my guess is the majority of people who really like this list are 3DS owners who never had a Wii U, or they also had a Wii U but are willing to double dip to play on the go. And the unhappy people are Wii U owners who dont' game on the go and only care about playing at home. Not 100%, but the majority, certainly a statistical correlation.
Though as I said, my kids each own a 3DS and still use it regularly on their respective backlogs, but neither are excited about this list as we've already played a lot of these on Wii U. Fortuantley for them we also have a PS4, one is still playing Horizon Zero Dawn, as am I, the other just started Kingdom Hearts 1-6 so that will take him months. Then E3 will come and excite us for the Switch this holiday. That's the plan anyway.
@Tibob It's hard to argue that one though, since there are quite a few people who, likely, buy these games (owning them already) on Switch, because of portability.
@rjejr I feel you there. Sometimes, I can't help but feel punished for supporting Nintendo during the Wii-U era
But yes, your explanation really resonates with me. My Switch is even gathering dust at this moment Hopefully that's shaken up/off soon enough, but my situation just doesn't have it feasible to buy games for Switch that are also playable on my PC.
@Tibob When you buy a console you are investing in that platform. It's just not the same thing as eating at Burger King instead of McDonalds.
Here's something you may understand, the people who own more than a Switch have already played the Wii U games they want. Have already played the third party games that they were interested in and so this list offers very little.
@ThanosReXXX Not truly a drought, true, but it feels like one for those who own multiplat, a Wii-U, and don't happen to value portability highly enough to buy a game again (Sure, that's a small minority, but there's enough of them in the comments it seems)
I'm a man of logic, and I just can't justify it to myself, to buy a game like Dark Souls Remastered on Switch, when I have a perfectly good PC that can run that game on 60 FPS compared to 30....
@Varkster Would need to disagree on all of it. Last AC I had played was Black Flag - And AC:O brought me back to the series. Even if people want to complain that some mechanics are kept from one to the other - you still have a new story and world to explore. Entering Alexandria for the first time was amazing and discovering the map is also still hrs of entertainment.
Everything you discover doing those mechanics is NEW. That is a far cry from not only playing the same mechanics but also doing the exact same thing you already did all over again.
And if you a PS4/PC owner you know that we usually never pay full price for these type of remakes/re-issue. Even FF15 Windows edition with all the PS4 content, graphics upgrade and new HalfLife DLC was 49.99
An analogy is not meant at proving that two things are the same, but to clarify a fact that is relevant in both cases.
Here I was trying to make you understand that the Switch has a lot to offer, except for those who already had these experiences elsewhere (= "the people who own more than a Switch" as you said yourself).
I'm not sure if you played all those games elsewhere or if you just need exclusives for the sake of it but the fact that you disqualify games as worthy options doesn't make them disapear.
@roadrunner343 Thanks for the thoughtful reply. First off, I must perhaps elaborate: of course there is no literal drought in software, but let us then exchange that word for shortage.
There literally is no shortage of games on the Switch. Not now, and with the dozens of titles yet to come, even in this year alone, it is ridiculous to say that there is.
Now, there can be a PERSONAL drought, sorry: shortage, if you are very selective/picky/have a specific taste, then a lot of these titles may not be to your liking, but it doesn't change the fact that a LOT of titles are coming to the Switch regardless.
Mind you, I can't stress enough that I would never want to deny people their right to their own opinion, or their own feelings about certain situations, but that is also not my point.
So, the discrepancy here is the difference between personal opinion and actual facts and figures. At the end of this year, the total amount of games having been released on the Switch adds up to almost a thousand games (according to this list, provided all the 2018 TBA titles are on schedule), so there is no shortage, plain and simple.
I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but the simple truth is that personal perception is not fact, so thinking/feeling that there is a shortage does not equal the actual situation. Nothing that any of us say, including myself, were I negatively inclined, can change anything about that, and as such, it is not something one can disagree with, because you simply cannot disagree with facts.
And I can't help that people use/interpret words in different ways. We can't be going by semantics in cases like this, unless we can admit that it's just our personal view on things. Another thing is, that the negatively inclined people often also compare this to the Wii U situation, to somehow make their point, which is honestly even more ridiculous.
It was bad then, but it isn't even close to being a similar situation now. There's more than enough to play, even though it may not be for everyone.
I do sometimes wonder how many games people would want to have/play per month, or how many games they think a company should churn out, and if they even have an inkling of an idea about all that is necessary to make that happen in the first place. My guess is that they probably don't, otherwise they might understand that their wishes/demands are largely unrealistic.
No single company can cater to everyone's wishes, and even if this list offers little to some, it offers much to others, and perhaps more importantly: it's not the last list of games we'll see, so there's more to come, and perhaps there will ultimately be something in it for everyone, so we can all be happy with the games and consoles we purchased with our hard-earned money...
I certainly hope so, for all their sake's. It does kinda suck if you've bought a console, and you have no games to play on it, that much I can muster some understanding for, but what I would do is wait until there's enough to choose from, and THEN buy the console, not buy it on a whim, or like some seem to want to do, simply be the first to own that new console.
In the end, you never know how things are gonna go, and we couldn't have possibly known how successful the Switch was going to be (certainly not considering the initial wave of negativity after the reveal of the Switch), but luckily it is, so more stuff will definitely be released for it.
@MFD 60fps is highly overrated in game types where it is completely unnecessary. There are definitely games that benefit from it, but it certainly isn't needed in ALL types of games.
That "a game must be 60fps/1080p or it isn't worth playing" view is yet another example of mind-numbing close-mindedness of people looking for an excuse to bash the Switch or simply be negative.
@Tibob If things are too far apart then they shouldn't be compared at all. For example, shopping at Wal Mart vs shopping at Sams Club where a membership is required (which costs money). As you can imagine the expectations from consumers are higher from those who shop at Sams Club.
@ThanosReXXX Not in all of them, no, but in the case of Dark Souls I can see why people argue 60 being better. In case of a turn-based? Nah, but action oriented, like fighters? Yes.
But stability is also very important. Frame-drops, or lagg if they're frequent enough, is a stage we should be well past by now, and yet we're not.
Push comes to shove, power matters for gameplay experience, and you can twist that in any way you like, the Switch just has less of that. Paying more for a lesser working product isn't something you'd do anywhere else, so why justify it here?
Your expectations are not reasonable. As I told you, no one said there would be more exclusives than what is here. If you're unhappy about it you might consider selling your Switch I guess.
@ThanosReXXX Let me start at the end of your post - I can't disagree any more strongly =P I'm very sensitive to framerate, and I find 30FPS to be borderline unplayable. It's very distracting to me. I'll sacrifice image quality any day for higher frame rate - and since upgrading to 144hz monitors for my PC, I'm even more picky =/ I realize that is far from the norm, and 30FPS is certainly "good enough" for many games - but I would always prefer more.
As for the first part of your lengthy book, my personal opinion doesn't really differ from yours, from what I can tell - but I still don't think changing the term from drought to shortage really helps things. I was just pointing out, that language by nature is relative and means different things to different people. One could still argue that there is an upcoming software shortage for Switch. I wouldn't necessarily agree, but I can understand that perspective, considering the amount of ports/re-releases.
As another example, software droughts / shortages certainly happen sometimes throughout the year. It's just the nature of the beast, with big developers loading up for E3, holiday releases, etc... However, am I completely banned from ever saying there is a drought/shortage of PC games, simply because there are always bookoos games/shovelware coming out on Steam? I wouldn't think so. By my own personal definition, I would exclude shovelware if I were attempting to define a PC gaming drought. Likewise, I can understand, despite not fully agreeing with, those that would exclude ports/re-releases when attempting to define a Switch software shortage. Hope that makes sense.
At the end of the day, it's not overly important to me - I love my Switch and have plenty to play =) Too much, actually. Even amidst the ports, re-releases, and remasters, I have things that I missed previously that I am interested in this go around.
EDIT: I poke fun at your lengthy book of a post, and go off and make my own... doh!
I understand that some people are not hyped by ports/re-releases. But you can't just ignore them and claim there is "a drought" just because you're not interested in them. Otherwise how about people who only enjoy Versus Fighting games. Can they complain about a drought when for a couple of months there's none coming out ?
@roadrunner343 Then I'll poke fun at yours by making a short(er) one.
So, what you're basically saying is that a thousand (THOUSAND!) games in a year constitutes a FACTUAL shortage in games to play on any given system? A thousand is factually many, regardless of what it consists of or how your own point of view differs from it. (like I said earlier to @rjejr how some may consider a mountain to be a hill, but it will still remain a mountain regardless)
And I also have to stress that I'm not arguing from opinion, nor am I defending one. I don't own a Switch, I actually AM a Wii U owner, and I also own an Xbox One S, and a gaming PC, so I can play a LOT of these games on other systems.
I also already said earlier in this thread that I'm also not interested in all of these games, but that is my personal opinion, and I can detach myself from that to make a valid judgment over whether or not a system has more than enough games in its catalog to choose from, and the Switch does, plain and simple. It may not be to everyone's liking, but that is once again where we steer into personal opinion area, and I would like to stick to the actual facts.
And even in opinion, there's a negative bias towards Nintendo, in cases like these. If this happens on Xbox or Playstation, there is also some muttering about it, but neither of those two camps are as vocal and negative about their own respective platforms as Nintendo fans. If you want to turn that into a positive, you might argue that Nintendo fans are simply more passionate, but I don't see any passion in negativity.
Anyways, that's how I see it, besides the aforementioned facts.
@Tibob Ehm, I'm kinda confused right now. I'm actually AGAINST the people claiming there's a drought, so I don't know how to interpret your post correctly, unless I'm missing something...
@Tibob Please read the entirety of my post. I don't disagree with either of you two - I have plenty to play. Even so, I still believe this to be a bit of a slow period, so it isn't difficult to imagine someone else believing it to be a drought. Again, simply due to the nature of language, drought will mean different things to different people. If we were to say a drought literally means there are no games coming out - then sure, there's never been a drought of software. Not even the Wii U suffered from this definition of a drought. But that's obviously not what the naysayers mean when they are using the term.
That was the point I was trying to make with the Steam example - certainly, there are times where there are slow periods of big software releases, but if you are to try to rigidly define drought/shortage as a literal lack of software, of any type or quality, then a drought never exists. If shovelware shouldn't count in making the determination of a software shortage, who's to any bad game should? Mediocre game? Good, but not great? Ports? Re-releases? Where's the line, exactly? And that's my point - there isn't a factual way to define it, it's personal opinion at that point. I can give you mine, and argue why I don't think there is a "drought" but I can also understand the opposing view.
@MFD Agreed on stability in frame rate. And in a perfect world, we'd long seen the day were ALL games are that perfect resolution and frame rate, but even the almighty PS4 can't handle that for a heck of a lot of titles, and so far, only the Xbox One X is the only console that comes closest to any of that.
@roadrunner343 That sensitivity to frame rate, does that have something to do with a personal affliction of some kind, if you don't mind me asking?
In that case, I can understand it, but not if it's a case of already being spoiled with it, and not being able to go back, or something to that extent. As long as a game runs at a leisurely pace or is turn-based, then having a higher frame rate has almost no impact whatsoever, if the developers know what they're doing. In sports, racing, fighting and fps games, there's definitely a benefit in having 60fps, so I certainly do agree to it in those specific cases.
@Agramonte You said some things that I can't argue with because it's your opinion, I have been worn off Assassin's Creed years ago. I just disagree that any of the experiences these games provide should be considered 'unique' other than introducing a little history, cliche stories and different visuals.
However, the PC pricing mentioned is completely irrelevant when comparing to console pricing. PC is widely known to sell even brand new releases at a reduced price simply because the userbase that buys the games is far smaller than on consoles. I have bought FFXV Windows edition, and it is still only 10 bucks less than other fully priced retail releases on the same platform.
Nintendo games have always been very costly due to their loyalty to quality branding. It has been known a long time ago that Nintendo's games to drop prices is wishful thinking at best. That's why I don't understand why these complaints about the prices of the games that were previously released on a console that nobody had (I own a Wii U and I beat DKC:TF) is such a big issue, ESPECIALLY when DKC:TF remains the same price on the Wii U eShop. Whether that is a subject that should change - that's not for me to decide. Nintendo still receive the sales they want so I guess the general fanbase is content with it. As for old third party releases that put their games on sale for full price on the Switch, I can't see a possible outcome where it is Nintendo's fault. Again, the Switch is a popular platform at the current moment so these prices must be high up (and remain high up over such periods of time) thanks to the good sales.
As for discounts and rewards systems on the eShop I suggest we wait until Nintendo unveils whatever they have planned for their Online service, not much to argue over until then. Thus far them offering free Online services explains the lack of these systems as providing them is pretty pricey.
I read you entirely. I said "you" not meaning you per se but meaning "one". I agree with your shovelware argument, but less with the subjective nature of the word "drought" : there's plenty of good games on the list, there's no denying that. Calling it a drought because of some screwed up criteria defies logic.
I was replying to roadrunner, I wanted to tag you as he was exchanging with you but I didn't do it properly.
@rjejr Well, thank you ever so much for comparing me to a vile creature such as a coyote...
As for their being no games for you: I'm not quite as old as you, but I'm close, and I've found plenty that interests me in those four videos I posted in comment #217, so check those out whenever you have the time, but there's more than enough in there to offer something for everyone, and even for you, you grumpy old dragon, you...
@Tibob Ah, okay. No offense taken, and thanks for explaining.
@ThanosReXXX Just to be clear, I'm saying there is a lull in current/upcoming releases. Winter/Spring 2018 has been a bit slow. I think you'd have to be crazy to say that there was a drought when looking at the entirety of the Switch's life. We can agree there 100%.
So perhaps that's where a bit of confusion came in. My only real concern, is that while I agree with your position, I don't know how we can factually label something a drought or not, since both the term, and language itself, is not literal. So I'm a bit uncomfortable telling someone that their opinion on what is or isn't a drought is factually wrong, when I can understand their position. Again, I can't understand it if they're talking the entire Switch library, I'm once again just referring to this current period.
As for framerate sensitivity, there's no health/mental affliction that I know of, other than perhaps excellent eyesight and a bit of OCD. For example, when I first picked up Bomberman for Switch, I didn't know know it was running at 30FPS, but it looked, and more importantly, felt awful to me. Perhaps it comes from growing up on PC and old CRT games, which always ran at 60+ FPS.
EDIT: I'm not really defending my framerate affliction as rational, by the way, but that doesn't make it any less real to me. I find the jitteryness inherent to 30FPS to be very distracting. That's not to say I haven't loved games locked at 30FPS (BotW, for example) but it's not something I ever could truly ignore, or forget about, and I would say it took away from the experience of the game as a whole for me.
@Tibob To say excluding ports/re-releases is screwed up criteria doesn't make sense if you agreed with the shovelware comment. If you and I can both agree that shovelware shouldn't count, why is it so hard to imagine someone else excluding ports/re-releases in forming their own opinion, even if you or I disagree? I agree there are good games on the list, and some re-releases I will be picking up. Still, it's not hard to imagine someone buying a new console and wanting to play new games - not old re-releases that they may have already played. If there truly is a factual definition for a software drought, and not our personal opinion of what we believe a drought to look like, once again, where's the line for what software should be considered? Shovelware, terrible game, bad games, mediocre games, good games? Ports, remasters, re-releases? There must be a clear line drawn somewhere if we're going to factually establish that this current period is not a drought and tell others they are factually wrong.
Finally, there's nothing to agree/disagree with on the "drought" comment. All language is subjective. Even more so when you're using a figure of speech like drought - unless you literally believe there is a current lack of rainfall for Switch. And then of course language changes over time, by region, etc...
@ThanosReXXX True, but by that Xbox One X, unless I'm missing something, it shows that power is required to reach these stabilities, and always staying behind won't help in this regard (Even if the Switch is the crème of the crop as handheld, it doesn't hold the same weight as home-console)
By that, I'm still one to firmly believe that 2 separate consoles is the best choice, since you can go for power and stability on the other, while the one has the "lesser" version, but is portable, instead of having everything hinge on a tablet. (Where's my Nintendo IP on the former, Nintendo? )
But back to the subject matter, if you were wearing my shoes (Dem comfy sports-shoes) and you had to choose between PC or Switch version (having a fairly good PC) plus likely paying more for the Switch version, what would you do?
Shovelware has to do with the quality of the game. Being a port has to do with wheter or not it was available elsewhere before. So the issue is one of two things :
>> one wants games that are exclusive, but that's a false problem : why would anyone need others not to play the same game as him ?
>>one has already played the game, but then it's a very personnal issue.
@Tibob I never said exclusive, I said new. Ports/multi-plat are different than the releases of old games. The point is, you still haven't addressed the concern - if we are to argue that a drought only occurs during a lack of quality software, since we have agreed shovelware shouldn't count, where is the cutoff? Do bad but not terrible games count? Mediocre? If our personal opinion on what constitutes a drought is allowed to exclude titles beneath a certain quality threshold of our own personal definition, why should someone else opinion not be allowed to exclude old re-releases?
EDIT: Sorry, I missed your last point of "... but then that's a personal issue" - I agree, and that's essentially the whole point of my argument. Almost all of it is personal opinion. Sure, we agreed shovelware doesn't count, but otherwise there's a lot of wiggle room. I've played a lot of games that averaged around 6 or 7 in reviews that I really enjoyed. Still, if there were nothing but 6/7's in the Switch's library, it wouldn't be a stretch for someone else to say that there weren't any blockbuster titles out for the Switch or that they believe the library to be lacking, or there was a drought of software. That's all relative as well. I will agree with you all day long, but I will not say my opinion on whether or not there is a lack of software in general (Which I don't believe) or a lack of big upcoming software (I do believe, but still wouldn't call it a drought) is in any way a factual statement, but rather my own opinion, and it isn't hard to fathom why someone else who is not interested in re-releases, much in the same way I am not interested in mediocre and below games, would consider this period a drought.
EDIT 2: One last edit! Thanks for keeping civil =) Always nice to debate/disagree without people throwing a hissy fit. I promise, I'll try to keep my next post length down. And now I feel bad for making fun of @ThanosReXXX, because holy cow have I gone off the rails XD
Again, I don't disagree with your stance. I feel like my stance, your's, and @ThanosReXXX seem to be very similar, but I have a problem arguing an opinion as fact, especially on a very subjective topic. I've already stated that I wouldn't argue there is a drought of software when considering the whole of the Switch's library, but this is a slow period for me, for sure, so I can also understand why someone else would be disappointing with the upcoming releases.
EDIT: @rjejr I can only assume that video was to emphasize that I am clearly winning the debate, right? I mean, I totally laid the smackdown on Wile E. Coyote there.
@Thanosrexxx never said software drought. I said there's a drought of new experiences/games if you play/own other platforms. It has only 4 and one is mainly for kids (Labo) while another is rehashed, short and mediocre (Kirby). that's why I'm only excited for octopath traveler and am on the fence for Mario tennis, will depend on how good that campaign is. Other than that I haven't touched my switch since December. Actually playing my 3ds more. If I didn't have a PC or X1 or Wii U then id be super stoked but most gamers have played a lot of these games or already have a platform they can play it on.
@MFD That would again be in a perfect world, the same one where all games reach their target resolution and frame rate 100% of the time, and I would have LOVED a mega-powerful home console (might even have stopped me from buying that Xbox One S, or at least might have changed the order in which I would have bought certain consoles), but it just wasn't realistic to expect that. It's wishes vs market share/possibilities/budget/history, so that was simply never going to happen.
Perhaps after the Switch has served its purpose, and it has made Nintendo billions of dollars, they might reconsider another real home console, but right now, I wouldn't bet any money on it...
As for your question: well, my PC is an old, averagely powered rig, not specifically targeted to games, so I can't play the latest games on it anyway, so there's that, and besides that, my PC sits on a desk, with an office chair in front of it. Relatively comfortable for having online discussions, but not really that comfortable for long gaming sessions, so I'd always prefer a console version, for comfort and for being able to play on a bigger screen than my monitor.
@roadrunner343 Ah, okay. So, "just" a personal over-sensitivity for it, then. I have no such qualms. I don't like screen tearing or jitter in my games either, but it has to be VERY noticeable before it'll hamper my enjoyment of the game. I'm not putting every screen under a microscope, so to speak, no offense.
I've seen people online harping on an lamenting the horrible stutters in Breath of the Wild and such, and I just don't see it. And there's nothing wrong with my eyes, but I just can't be bothered to take notice of every lost frame or so. And even if I do tend to notice, I simply consider if the overall experience is good, and if so, then that is more than good enough for me.
And for turn-based? There really is no gain in having a faster frame rate there. A game that has almost no fast movement, other than perhaps in battle sequences, has little use for it.
As for feeling uncomfortable about telling people about the difference between opinion and fact: I have no such qualms there, either. That's the thing about facts: they're factual, they can't be denied or debated, unless new facts are unearthed, invalidating the current facts.
Opinions are just that: opinions, and they are personal, which is why a lot of them are different, and why it's also perfectly fine to have one, as long as we don't confuse them with facts, it really is that simple.
No one on this entire planet can argue that almost a thousand games in the space of 1,5 - 2 years is sparse or little, so again (and sorry to keep going about this, but it appears I have to keep stressing it): there is factually not a shred of proof that there isn't enough software available on or coming to the Switch.
That what is available or coming isn't to everyone's liking, is something I completely understand, but it's another discussion altogether, and that is also not what I'm debating or denying: it would simply be impossible for all of us to have the same taste, and it would make the world a decidedly boring place as well, come to think of it...
A thousand titles is not a few, no matter which way you try to twist it. And if someone, in a worst case scenario, only likes 2 or 3 titles out of that entire catalog.... well, that's then their own personal problem, not a problem of the system not having enough games.
So, we actually have the same problem (arguing an opinion as a fact), except for the way we look at it, especially seeing as I am not the one arguing my opinion as a fact. I'm simply using the actual facts that are readily available to try and make my point, WITHOUT letting my personal opinion interfere with it.
@rjejr once posted a really funny picture about the whole different views on the same thing "problem". Perhaps he can dig it up and re-post it for our mutual amusement.
Oh, and just ignore @rjejr and his crazy cartoons. He just likes to make fun of me...
@ThanosReXXX My sincere apologies. Sometimes it's hard for me to detect sarcasm, especially through written text.
@20wonders No need man, I wasn't offended. Which is why I genuinely kindly invited you to check out that other comment. So, no harm done, far as I'm concerned.
I've certainly had my own share of misinterpreting other people's texts, so I won't be pointing fingers at others for doing the same...
@ThanosReXXX Three weeks until Infinity War btw!
@ThanosReXXX At this point we've been back and forth enough, that I just want to confirm you saw my post on the Switch's library - again, I completely agree from a holistic point of view. I even said you'd have to be crazy to say there's a shortage of software. So once again, I'm specifically referring to the current period/upcoming near term releases. That's the part I am saying I understand when others say there is a drought, and I would be uncomfortable telling someone that there factually is an abundance of good games right now. I have no problems telling people they are factually incorrect - I just don't believe you can do so taking the lineup presented in this article. I believe that is very much a personal opinion and up for debate. If you are only talking about the entire library, then I agree with you completely - those people complaining are nuts.
As for the FPS issue, I will completely agree - it is just a hyper sensitivity to it. At least, that's the impression I get when talking to others. I don't really know since I've been this way my whole life, so I don't really know what "normal" would be =D Around the 45-50FPS mark is where it no longer actively bothers me. 60FPS is perfectly playable, and I will never complain, but I can still quite easily tell the difference between 60FPS and 100ish. I can't honestly say I see any perceptible difference after 90-100 FPS. Anything around 30FPS actively bothers me, to the point where I find it distracting and it does take away from the game a bit for me. Oddly enough, screen tearing isn't as big of deal to me, but perhaps that's because the issue naturally isn't a big deal at higher frame rates, so I rarely encounter that problem anymore.
@brutalpanda Well, sorry to lump you in with the others, then. I was talking to so many people at the same time at one point, that I might have overlooked that.
And like I've already mentioned in several comments since that first one, I totally understand that the upcoming games list featured here isn't to everyone's liking, it still is quite a decent list when looking at it objectively.
@roadrunner343 Yeah, we've done the ring around a couple too many times already, and we do agree for the most part. But we did make some progress, seeing as we've now found the real culprit: I am indeed looking at the entire library and what's still to come, and not just at this list here.
I just foresaw people using this list here as yet another excuse to bash the entire Switch catalog once more, and the same kind of people will be the very one's that are also going to complain about what will be on display at this year's E3, because that will probably also largely not be for them, unless ALL rumored and hinted at games will be revealed all at once...
As for the frame rate thing: do you also feel any discomfort watching movies, then? Seeing as most movies are still recorded at anything between 24 - 30fps, which is actually specifically catered towards creating that sweeping, cinematic experience, such as in movies like the whole Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit trilogies, and even in Marvel movies, to name but a few.
From what you described, it would seem to me, that sitting in a movie theater for 2,5 hours would potentially be like torture to you.
@ThanosReXXX I've done a fair bit of research on frame rate, because I've always found it odd - no, television and movie theaters do not cause me any real discomfort. Now, I don't particularly enjoy watching TV/Movies, and only do so because my wife enjoys it, but that's another topic altogether - but for those reasons, yes, sitting in a theater for 2.5 hours does sound like torture =P
From what I understand, the way TV/Movies are produced, despite being at a very low framerate sometimes (Not always), there is quite a bit of motion blur induced which makes the frame transitions appear smooth. The frame transitions in games are typically very sharp and crisp, making it easier for me to distinguish individual frames, where the blur in movies makes it more difficult. I think that likely has a lot to do with it, but i think the bigger reason it doesn't bother me as much is because I am not directly interacting with the video. While I do find it visually jarring to play a game at 30FPS or below, it "feels" even more jarring. I don't really know how else to describe the feeling. It's likely my brain mashing together the sensation of jittery frame rate, input lag, and delayed response times - but something just feel very off to me.
@roadrunner343 Hm, I guess that actually makes perfect sense. Your movie answer leaves me more puzzled than before I asked that question, though...
And it's correct: movies do use motion blur. I've seen a lengthy interview with Peter Jackson on how exactly he made the Hobbit trilogy and what new technologies he used compared to the Lord of the Rings trilogy. That's also the reason I mentioned these very movies in the previous comment. It was an interesting watch, if you're into that kind of stuff, anyway.
Now, I hope you're going to interpret this as I intended, and be sure that I mean no offense, but rather than OCD, it sounds to me like you have a mild form of autism, or at the very least hyper-sensitivity in the visual range. It's almost like where this topic is concerned, you're wearing a prickly coat that you can't take off.
I know a couple of people that can also quite easily distinguish the tiniest of frame drops or other graphical niggles, and I also know some people that can hear tones and subtle differences in music that most people including myself can't, and in general, all of these people are regarded as being "outside of the norm", so put whatever label you want on that, be it special, peculiar, gifted, nerdy...
Anyway, I hope you understand what I'm trying to get at here.
@ThanosReXXX Ha, I'm not offended in the slightest. I know I use the term OCD wrong - like 99% of the people in the world who say they have OCD, they don't really have OCD. I'm just very particular and picky about certain things, especially when it comes to organization. My sister-in-law has true, diagnosed OCD - cleans the same room in the house for hours straight, over and over again due to fear of germs, checks her daughter's crib for foreign objects for 20-30 minutes before putting her down, etc... That's true OCD, and not at all what I am referring to =)
It is somewhat funny though, because my best friend once asked me if I ever wondered if I had some sort of mild, un-diagnosed spectrum disorder due to my lack of emotional response to just about anything. Personally, I don't think that's the case, but who knows? And honestly, even if I do have a genuine disorder of some sort, I really don't care =D I'd rather be able to make rational decisions without emotions clouding my judgement. And I get super hero level vision out of it? Yes please! Though, the first few years of marriage were a bit difficult until she understood how my brain worked a little better. We're 10 years in, and won't pretend to fully understand each other, but we make it work XD
@roadrunner343 Well, no offense to anyone's missus, obviously, but who of us has ever heard of men and women fully understanding each other? Mars and Venus and all that...
I suppose I would be on the almost exact other end of that spectrum, though, from what I can gather now. On top of already being quite the social person (if I do say so myself), I'm also highly empathic, meaning I can feel/sense other people's pain/emotions in and with them.
In some cases, a very good icebreaker, instead of the usual "how you doin' ?"
But difficult at times too, especially when I'm feeling low myself, which happens to the best of us, then I'm usually better off not watching or reading anything sad or emotional, or else I might end up feeling even worse. I'm also stubborn, though, so sometimes I also don't heed my own warnings in that department...
But all said and done, I'd rather have that than no emotions at all, although I might be interpreting you a bit too literal, there.
@ThanosReXXX I understand, but your PC gaming situation can easily be resolved. A good, big screen. A strong, nice computer and a comfy office chair would see to that.
As for the home-console situation, I hope so. With Nintendo's need for affordability, even if a handheld could, god forbid, surpass the home-consoles of today, they still wouldn't go the distance due to price >.>
@ThanosReXXX It's a fantastic list for anybody that mainly games on the go or uses switch as their main gaming platform.
@MFD Well, currently life and all its lesser aspects have taken over, so "easily resolved" isn't really an option for me right now. I've got other priorities which by FAR outweigh the need for a new PC, and my screen (24 inch) is still perfectly fine, and since I'm sitting at my desk right in front of it, it also doesn't need to be any bigger than that.
The chair is also good enough, but a chair will never be a couch, and a PC will never be a console. I am my own boss, so my PC is also my workstation, which is why it isn't specifically geared towards gaming, although there are plenty of games on there, albeit mostly from the Xbox 360/PS3 generation, and a bunch of classics.
@ThanosReXXX I don't think you misunderstood me. I'm not completely anti-social, but I most certainly struggle with empathy. For example, my mom suffers from sever depression. I can sympathize, sure, but I have next to no empathy to her situation or for others in a similar situation.
I don't completely lack emotion, though one of my nicknames in highschool was The Cat, due to lack of display of emotion. Honestly, it's become even more pronounce as I've gotten older. I'd say it's just a very, very limited spectrum of emotion. For example, there is most certainly an emotional connection with my son, and even my dogs - but I doubt what I feel and can only assume is "love" is the same as what someone else may call "love" - but I also don't find that distinction overly important. It's fascinating to me from a psychology perspective, though. My best friend I mentioned earlier (The one that asked if I thought I had an undiagnosed spectrum disorder) is a social work with a BA in Psychology, so we've had a few of these lengthy discussions. Never figured anything out, but sure is fun to think about how different brains work. Especially considering that most people just assume that the way theirs works is the "correct" way, and everyone else is wrong.
So... um... to get us back on topic... I think I'll be picking up the Crash collection too for my Wife. She loves platformers, and missed out on all of these games in the PSX days. There, I saved this thread from being completely derailed! ... right?
@ThanosReXXX A gaming PC can also be a workstation, but I understand.
I've had this conversation with someone who states that soon, home-console will be no more, and everything will be cloud-based with people merely owning a service. I cannot imagine having that. Publishers could pull your game at a moment's notice, which is a scary thought.
But, back to the point. I hope E3 has more for everyone, not just the people who only own a Switch, or cream themselves over portability (Excuse the wording, I'm still rather sore due to this transition from solid home-console, to plastic connector.)
@roadrunner343 Yes, you did, you did indeed! Aren't you happy about that? Oh, wait...
@MFD If that ever happens, and it might, although not within the next two generations, so I fully expect there to be a "normal" Xbox Two(?), a PS5 and a Nintendo Next somewhere in 2020, and after maybe another couple of mid-gen updates, like the others have done now, we might see a set top box kind of thing, although that has been tried before and never really got of the ground.
As for E3: I'll enjoy watching that, as I almost always do, since I watch all the shows, not just the Nintendo ones, and here's hoping that we get to see a bit of Metroid Prime 4, which is my personal hope.
And some news on what the heck Retro has been doing or a bit of Pikmin 4 wouldn't be too bad either...
@ThanosReXXX Agreed. And never gotten off the ground you say? Honestly, I hope physical sticks around. Maybe because I'm old, and that's what I'm used to, but I don't like the idea of publishers/developers having the games to their every whim, able to call them back at a moment's notice. It scares me.
@ThanosReXXX FYI, I always enjoy your comments.
For me gaming is purely about fun and escapism. So when I read the whining, self-focused, negative drivel in the comments, it ruins my gaming buzz. I’ve started giving the consistent whiners three strikes ... and after that, I ignore them. I now enjoy the comment section a lot more (although I may get a less biased view on a topic). You should give it a try!
Anyways, keep up the interesting comments, ignore the negativity, and maybe one day you’ll buy a Switch!
@MFD You're old? I'm 47, so don't get me started...
But I agree. If real consoles go, I might just stick with the last ones that they release, and become a full-on retro gamer. Could certainly do wonders for that backlog that I've been amassing ever since the GameCube...
As for those attempts that never succeeded, to be fair to them: most were PC only, trying to bring PC gaming to the comfort of the couch, as a good alternative to console gaming, with initiatives such as the OnLive service, the Steam Box and of course the Nvidia Shield, which is now more or less powering Nintendo's console.
But those services and devices (usually set top boxes) could never really compete with consoles, even though they could host all the big triple A games that you could also play on your PC, but there was always something amiss or slightly off, which resulted in devices and services like these never being any more than niche.
But, especially in the case of OnLive, it could also be argued that it was the wrong time and place, a service (or rather: an idea/concept) too advanced and too much ahead of its time. With modern day bandwidths and the increasing bandwidth that will be coming in the next 5 to 10 years, it might very well have succeeded in staying around.
In any case, physical consoles will be here to stay for some time yet, and it might even be so that Nintendo will be the last one standing in that regard, because I just don't see them only being an online service, more so because of their origin as game AND toy makers.
@Bondi_Surfer Thanks, man. And don't worry: it's not going to be a maybe, where it concerns the Switch. I haven't skipped a single Nintendo console since the N64, so that Switch WILL be bought, just not now, because of other priorities.
And thanks for the suggestion, but contrary to all the people being enthusiastic about the "ignore" feature, I regard that as the epitome of defeatism, and seeing as I'm not about to punish myself for what others are doing wrong, I won't ever be making use of that.
It would also seem weird to me, because you could still see people mentioning these invisible people, as long as they don't use the @ sign, so I would actually be more annoyed by missing some parts of the conversation that might be of use for understanding what the heck some people are talking about.
No, even though I'm also not exactly an advocate for that, I'd rather have a down vote option on the comments, so I can really show them instead of quietly ignoring them without them even knowing it. It is them that need to feel it, not me.
But on average, I've become quite adept at ignoring them/jumping over their comments without the need of a button, so I'm good...
I do also adhere to the three strike rule, so agreed on that one. I even use that in real life as well. Works like a charm...
@rjejr I can't BELIEVE you don't think good ol' Funky Kong isn't worth $10. Honestly I think he's worth $100! DKC:TF should be $150 on Switch so really we're getting a bargain!
@ThanosReXXX This'll teach you to be "first" on any article for a while. I think you've written more on this comment section than NL staffers have in the past two weeks!
@TheLobster "Funky Kong isn't worth $10"
Well if he was DLC for the Wii U version I paid $50 for he would be.
You know when Sony ported all of it's games form PS3 to PS4 it didn't make them that much better on PS4 than PS3. MK8 got good multiplayer, DK is get Funky. Yoshi even got Poochy on 3DS. It's like all the Wii U games were the beta versions before making the games better on other systems and they forgot to add the improvements to the game all of us owned on Wii U.
Not that I'm bitter or anything, Nintneod is saving me a fortune this gen.
@ThanosReXXX Why would I have to watch videos for upcoming games on an article that lists the upcoming games which we are discussing? That's all the article is, games and dates, and those are the games and dates we are discussing. Though as somebody already pointed out earlier NL has a thing against Y's 8, they leave it out of every article like this. I am interested in that one.
@rjejr Hahahaha. They should have saved us a fortune last gen considering they were giving us the worst versions of the games but boy were we desperate. Not that I don't love my Wii U, but come on, you are right, every re-release is adding something to the mix to make it better. I should have just skipped it altogether and now I see the logic of the people who did. But what can I say, I'm a simple woman, it says "Nintendo," I buy. But I'll tell you what - I have unhooked the Wii U but recently hooked the Wii back up. What does that say to you? Edit: I'll add that I'm finding crazy discounts on what are great games in the Wii's library to justify that hookup, Wii games cost almost nothing these days.
@Bondi_Surfer "For me gaming is purely about fun and escapism. So when I read the whining, self-focused, negative drivel in the comments, it ruins my gaming buzz."
Nicely said, while it doesn't necessarily kill my gaming buzz personally as these moaners make me laugh, the self-focused negative bit is spot on. So when these people talk of droughts, they need to remember that the drought they speak of is purely in their own eyes. They don't speak for all of us.
I only have 2 games for mine, there's plenty out there for me to pick from and on the horizon, I just don't have the time to devote to them as often as I want, so that whole "drought" in my eyes is absolute crap.
@TheLobster Yeah, so it would seem...
@rjejr It obviously goes without saying (far as I'm concerned) that you don't HAVE to watch those videos, but they do show a heck of a lot more games that are coming to the Switch than just the ones mentioned in this article here, and silly old me thought you might actually appreciate that and perhaps find some titles in them that might interest you or your kids. Put 'em on your to watch list and all that...
Most kids would like SpinTires Mudrunner, for example. What kid doesn't like playing with cars in the mud? Well, probably kids that don't like cars and all that, but most do. And there's dozens more games in those videos, none of which are mentioned here.
So, it's pretty safe to say that there could, and probably should, be something in there for everyone.
@WiltonRoots Another nail on the head.
@ThanosReXXX Yep I tried to put in as polite a way as possible, the temptation to be scathing was right there...
@WiltonRoots Well, I think you did a fine job of it, so perhaps you should resist the temptation more often.
Although, come to think of it, I'd give you a hall pass for certain individuals...
@The_Gerudo_King If you're looking to insult other people, this isn't the place. He only said he wasn't into Smash. So I'm not sure why that warrants the behaviour you're showing. Please be more considerate next time.
Do you fight all his battles for him?
@The_Gerudo_King I'm not sure what your issue is. That's what moderators are for.
They can take action if they want. Doesn't really matter to me.
@The_Gerudo_King That's why I'm letting you know (I am a moderator).
@ThanosReXXX This comment says it all. Not one of these games will have gamers rushing out to buy a Switch. Nintendo seemed to have played all its cards in the first year. Shovel Knight with its 8 bit graphic style of game is old hat now and it's about time developers showed off the Switches real potential and made better games.
I was a loyal Wii u gamer, and for my sins I am offered the chance to re-purchase these games again at full price. And where are all the new third party games? Rather than six year old games ported to the Switch at full price.
Do what you gotta do then. But could you also look into streamlining the comments section? It's pretty bad when you reply to a post and it appears at the very end of the comments section. Disqus is much better and makes for a better experience overall.
This is a really dumb comment. Sony ports over PS3 games to the PS4 and it's great because the game stays exactly the same.
Nintendo ports over Wii U games to the Switch and it's terrible because they actually enhanced the port with added features and characters and therefore that means the original games were beta?
That is the most negative and dumb way of looking at things I've ever seen.
@The_Gerudo_King I already did. Just be a bit more considerate next time, he didn't do anything wrong.
I'm only a moderator, I don't run this site, so I cannot change that. I don't think that's a good idea however, as it means most people will just reply to the first comment and it becomes a mess anyway. But that's just my personal opinion.
Giving me a warning is the best you can do? No wonder this site is full of passive aggressive trolls that just skirt the line so the big bad moderators don't take action.
And disqus is much better. People can see what they posted and who responded to them instead of having to scroll all the way down to end of the comments. It's just better in everyway.
Anyway, keep up the good work so all the coward trolls have a safe environment to live in.
@The_Gerudo_King If you want a ban, we can arrange that...
Sure, go ahead. I just got back from a ban and this place has gone to crap. The trolls run the place and anytime someone calls them out on it the mods get butthurt about it. While you're at it, ban yourself for being a crappy moderator. What a joke.
@zool If you're talking about my first comment in this thread, then you misunderstood, because I was being sarcastic...
And while, as a Wii U owner myself, I'll agree with you that it's a bit sour on a personal note, to see all these Wii U games re-released, it's still a VERY logical decision from Nintendo's point of view, and one I also understand and agree with, regardless of the fact that I've already bought those games.
The Switch is massively popular and selling like hot cakes. The Wii U wasn't, so many of its titles never got the exposure they deserved and also never regained their investments, let alone made a profit, so it's very understandable if you look at it without the emotional baggage of a disgruntled gamer.
The thing is, I see so many people complaining about it, and when I or anyone else point that out to them, all we get is defensiveness about "having the right to complain", instead of them perhaps showing some kind of understanding for the reason of it all, so they could at least be okay with it. Not jumping for joy, mind you, but just being okay with it should be entirely possible.
After all: you don't HAVE to buy or re-buy all these Wii U reboots, so if you don't like it, you can simply ignore it and not spend your own precious time and energy in being angry or stressed about it. Why be mad about something you're not going to buy anyway?
And there's more than enough available or coming. Just browse through those videos I posted in comment #217, they show more than enough bigger games, besides all the indies.
And we know more are coming. And another thing to remember is that you're not alone, and that not everyone has more than one console or a gaming PC, so for a lot of Switch-only gamers, these games actually ARE new, and they are plenty, since they haven't played any of them before.
The Switch being so successful is sure to attract even more companies that will want to put their games on it, so eventually, maybe even as soon as this year's E3, more announcements will come, both from Nintendo themselves and from third parties.
And you can hardly call Doom and Wolfenstein 2 old games, seriously...
Not many for spring, unless you are thinking July is still part of spring.
Even so, to use the word 'biggest' is wishful thinking.
Are you suggesting Mario Tennis is the Switches killer game this Summer.?
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