Switch Now Has Three Times As Many Games as Wii U Did At This Point In Its Lifecycle

And people say the Switch has no games. Where are they looking?

Seen this earlier. Interesting, I was saying in the forums that the Wii sold a similar amount of hardware in the same time period but Switch has over double the amount of games, that's because of the proliferation of Indie and smartphone games. I would also say that the Wii got a lot of original games whereas Switch has a litany of ports. I read it here:

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2018/02/switch-has-three-times-as-many-games-as-wii-u-did-at-this-point-and-theyre-better/

and thought, that's strange that Kotaku were taking credit for the story but I see it's from the same author. I guess he maybe freelances or works for a few sites.

And yet, still no Smash Bros or Virtual Console...

Looking at my exel list I have 32 physical Wii U games and already already 27 Switch ones with 8 or so that I still want to import from Japan as well as at least as many western version I still want to grab.
Switch might end up being a combination of DS and Wii for me.

The switch has loads of games. Mario,splatoon 2.Xenoblade 2, Mario and rabids. and loads more cool indie titles on it. 2018 seems a bit quite atm when compared to the competition but switch is newish so i let it slide. Hopefully we have another direct in the month of feb,march or April. And By E3 time nintendo will show big guns. except it to be longer than 24 mins this time. Even though it only took them 24 mins to win e3 last year!.

@Dizzy_Boy
I think those gamers are only looking for Beefy AAA 3rd party games like on PS4 / PC or typical games that played by Adult male gamers.
If the games are Not AAA level / Indies / Kiddie games, they always say "No games for Switch."

@oOFincHyOo
Relax.
You can try another Switch games while waiting for Smash Bros Switch.
Beside, Smash Brosh is Not the Only Worthy games to play.
Have fun with other games.

Yeah well that's easy when you port the entire library of the Wii U on to the Switch.

I couldn’t be a happier gamer. A long wish list. Just starting to dig into Stardew finally. Mario and Zelda to still totally complete and a couple more shmups to pick up. Then when I get payday, Doom.

That’ll do for now .

If only Switch had a Virtual Console, YouTube, Netflix, oh my!

When I had the Wii u, I had a lot of games. With the switch, I still have a lot of games and a lot more on the horizon.

I love Dragon Quest. The fact we are getting Builders and XI this year on the Switch is ABSOLUTELY a given. Heck, if Kingdom Hearts III releases this generation (or before the sun goes supernova), it will pretty much be a lock that the Switch will get it.

Do you know how long it's been since owning a Nintendo console was pretty much an assurance that most major releases would be appearing on it? I loved the Gamecube, Wii, Wii U, and the portables... but it feels so good knowing that I'm not going to have to rationalizing missing some big titles.

@BenAV 100 on the Switch you say, probably lots of eShop shovelware and how many of those are available on the Wii U?

@bezerker99 Wii U had a pretty great Virtual Console with DS, GBA in addition to the regular stuff.

All these articles about how well the Switch is doing make me think that Switch owners need constant reinforcement that they made the right choice when they bought it.

Yeah, thAt is just a data dump. You basically counting every random eShop game out there. My iPhone has more "games" than just about anything if we count this way.

You open the Metacritic list and you see the same issue as the WiiU. Nintendo doing most of the work. Jan was awful, and February is headline by a wiiU game. Basically back to waiting on Nintendo to deliver a hit.

@Crono1973 Remember the Google Streetview application on the Wii U?

I love my Switch but .... it's not perfect. A VC would be nice.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7CkQskMZUBs

I think if they were only counting physical releases, the numbers would go in the opposite direction. Nintendo used to be really strict about quality control on the eShop, but now they will literally allow any old garbage to be published.

Good! Now bring us a new Mario game like in the past when they were fast releasing 3 Mario adventure games on 1 console. We want more. We want more. We want more!

@Crono1973

"All these articles about how well the Switch is doing make me think that Switch owners need constant reinforcement that they made the right choice when they bought it."

Yep you're right. My Wii U gamepad was so easy to take with me when I traveled for work. I got duped for sure, and I hate my Switch purchase.

@MoonKnight7 Some of you act like the Switch is your first handheld/tablet and you are amazed by it.

Most are indie garbage.

@Crono1973

Cause the last handheld Nintendo had was the 3DS, and it is worlds ahead of that. So yes, compare the two and it's a pretty amazing difference. Not sure what's so hard to grasp here.

Excellently done!

@LUIGITORNADO Hey hey Vroom in the night sky was a masterpiece

@MoonKnight7 Oh so now it's about power? The last post it was about portability. Seems like it's about whatever you need it to be about to promote the Switch. For example, the Switch may be a powerful handheld but as a home console....but we should ignore power on that point, right?

@Asaki Articles like this only encourage more garbage on the eShop because it's not about quality, just quantity.

Definitely agree that Switch has a pretty wide range of support - especially in the store, but the WiiU did have the ability to run Wii titles so wondering how much that affected development/sales of newer titles. I'd considered getting a WiiU to run a handful of the newer games, but also because I could run my Wii games. I never pulled the trigger, especially once the Switch was announced. Portable gaming won out for me.

Still haven't bought a whole bunch of titles for the Switch, but I'm going to concentrate on titles I'll play or my kids will play. I get to play a little more with the portability, but time is still a little limited.

My backlog is stuffed with games. So much to play, so little time. Just waiting on my joycon to come back from Nintendo.

@LUIGITORNADO
Indies are Garbage ?!
Tell me is Portal Knights,
Indie games from Keen Games & published by 505 Games, the game that i played for more than 55 hours & i bought from e-shop since 24 Dec 2017 = Garbage ?!
Very insulting words, dude !

According to the author of the original article it took the Wii U 857 days to reach the same number of games the Switch had accumulated in just 279 days,so it took a lot longer than "almost 400 days more".

@Crono1973 I've got just under 100 games on Switch and while many of them are Eshop only titles not 1 single title could be classed as shovelware. They all work like they should, they're all optimized for Switch and they're all games that received on average good review scores. So what makes them shovelware then?

@Anti-Matter lol, you insult people almost daily on here

@OorWullie Shovelware is a matter of opinion but I bet most people would be unable to find most of 100 games on the eShop that they didn't consider shovelware (garbage indie titles).

How many of your almost 100 games are Switch exclusives?

@redd214
Ah....
There were some users like to express their negativity here.
Just wonder why...

of course a lot of it is shovelware. now that wouldn't be a problem if nintendo would fix the eshop layout already...

@Anti-Matter dude you express tons of negativity on this site too! Don't get bent out of shape if others do the same thing you do, that's hypocritical.

@Crono1973
Please explain your definition about Shovelware.
Are their games with low budget or from small developers or their games labeled by e-shop ??
Not all indies are Shovelware.
And even if there are some Shovelware e-shop games, does it really matter for you ??
Because for you maybe they are Shovelware, but for other people they are Gems.
I bet you will say 1-2 Switch for example is a Shovelware from Nintendo due to very weird gameplay, but for me 1-2 Switch is an Unique & Interesting game, i don't mind to pay $ 50 because the game is humoring me.

@Crono1973

For god's sake. You mentioned handheld/tablet. Somebody's a bit abrasive. Stop spinning the conversation just so you can feel better about yourself as the anti-Switch hero.

@Crono1973 No idea, probably not too much but that is of no concern to me. I've never played them before so it's all good to me. All I care about is playing games that appeal to my tastes and for that the Switch has me spoiled for choice. Yes it could do with having more big 3rd party titles but hopefully by this time next year that won't be as much of an issue.

@Anti-Matter As I said, shovelware is a matter of opinion but most will agree that there is plenty of shovelware on the eShop.

And yet it still can't save game data to a cartridge like the 3DS does. What a joke of a machine this is. Typical Nintendo poo right here.

So switch has more games than Wii u and 3ds. Not really fair

@MoonKnight7 My problem is that people act like the Switch is soooo amazing because they can take it on the train with them. Well you have been able to game on the train since atleast 1989. Then when you point that out people are all about how powerful the Switch is and while it is a powerful handheld, it is not a powerful console so it's pretty convenient to only mention power when it suits you.

My other problem with Switch owners is the constant port begging and whining when a game comes out for Wii U and/or 3DS. That just tells me that the Switch's supposedly amazing library isn't that amazing after all. Some people want all support for Wii U and 3DS dropped because they are jealous that Switch doesn't get EVERY game.

I had more games on Switch than my PS4 and Wii U combined. Thanks to the ports and indies, Switch is a great platform to find amazing game but I still have hope for more triple A games coming to Switch. We still need a main Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy game for Switch though and despite Japan usually get those games first, we had yet to heard anything on DQXI or FFXV for Switch at the moment.

@Crono1973 Maybe they just really like the convenience the Switch offers them and the library of games it has rather than focusing on what it can't do or what it doesn't have? Some people just like to be positive about things rather than negative all the time. I know which side I sit on.

@OorWullie They aren't positive about the 3DS or the Wii U though.

I would say that both the Wii U and the 3DS have a better library. Most people would agree about the 3DS.

@Crono1973 It's a matter of perspective. Some are comparing the Switch to a handheld, some are comparing it to a console. But it's a hybrid, it combines the two. Most people forget about that in their discussions which I think is a mistake.

Aside from that, it's the first system that gives you the possibility to play console games on the go. (3)DS, Gameboy and even the Vita weren't strong enough to play Dark Souls, for example. So let me put it like this; it's a system which plays most of the game the xBone and PS4 has, but you can play it on the go. I think that's amazing.

And for your second problem, the Switch does what the 3DS does, but better. I hate picking up my 3DS after playing for a while on the Switch, it's just a downgrade. Take Persona 5 for example, what if it only came out for PS3, while the PS4 was out on the market. I would still buy it and play it, but in my head, I'm just thinking about how much better it would play and look on the PS4. And it's just easier to have most games on the system you play at that time the most.

@Saego Console games have been ported to handhelds reliably since atleast the GBA and I have to be honest with you, playing Chrono Trigger on the go isn't really any better or worse than playing it on the TV.

Well whatever, I just wish Switch owners would quit wishing for the end of support for the Wii U and 3DS.

@SimplyCinnamon53 Great video on the topic. Couldn't agree more.

@Crono1973 Why would they still be positive about the Wii U at this stage? It's gone, it's old news. By the end of the first year it was more common to hear of a game being cancelled than announced. Sales had fallen off a cliff. Indies were releasing junk that are among the worst games ever released on any console. As for the 3DS,it's over 7 years old, of course it has a better library of games. By the end of its first year did it have a better library of games than Switch though? No it didn't! Anyway, I don't remember reading much negativity about the 3DS once the price dropped and sales picked up. It was a successful console and the fact it's still receiving games proves that.

I'm sure many have pointed this out already, but this is really an unfair comparison. Indie/eShop games (which constitutes the big bulk of this stat) didn't really take off on WiiU until much later in its lifespan. There wasn't that kind of scene in the first year of WiiU. So yeah, this article is true, but the stat itself demonstrates nothing.

I could produce an article in the same vein that says that WiiU had 1560 games available on launch date and it would be as unquestionably true.

@Anti-Matter More like no games I can't get better/cheaper elsewhere.

Other than the 1st party Nintendo games really. And a tiny handful of Indies.

Meanwhile I’m still awaiting the announcement of what every Nintendo Gaming System has had before I get my hands on a Switch myself, the Next Official Mario Kart game with 16 NEW Nitro and Retro Tracks, of which would include stuff seen in Super Mario Odyssey.

@CuriousUserX90 I don't think that would happen anytime soon. Tho I will really love that.

@CuriousUserX90 Maybe I’ll send a letter to the LA Convention Centre for Nintendo to receive at E3 for them to announce a New Mario Kart game is in development for the Switch during their presentation, that is if the timing is right, if they do I’ll finally get my hands on a Switch myself. Assuring that the MK8 Port does not apply to the Mario Kart Tradition of Each System for being a Port not a Main Game would be appreciated, with it’s existence being for the same reason as other ports of Wii U Games. I might also state what I said in the letter I sent to Hideki Konno about the Mario Kart Franchise, pretty sure his goal anyway has been to release to release a NEW Mario Kart game on each and every Nintendo System anyway.

The number may be inflated by the indie and mobile games severely, but ask yourself this: Were the majority of those boxed shovelware games any better despite being stamped to discs?

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Gizmodo and Lifehacker are both under the Gawker umbrella....same company, shared staff.

@spizzamarozzi
Yeah and also there's more games than on the Wii at this stage because WiiWare didn't even arrive until later on in its lifespan.

@Crono1973

"Well you have been able to game on the train since at least 1989."

True, but now I can play Skyrim and the latest Doom on a train. We're well beyond Tetris, and that's kind of the point.

If you don't travel, I get it, you want something more powerful. But the Switch is powerful enough, that they even got Doom to work on it, even though it takes significant sacrifices. The Switch is a powerful handheld, and I'd say "pretty good" while docked in most cases. I can't speak for everyone, but I'd say it's not that Switch fans are changing the topic to fit the need of the conversation, it's more a matter of fact that it can do both, and does both pretty well. We haven't seen anything like this from a major gaming company except when Sony tried to kind of do it with the Vita, and it didn't work very well. Transferring from tv to portable is timeless and easy, and Nintendo managed to do it really well. Do I wish it were more powerful when docked? Sure I do, but it's good enough, and how has that been any different for Nintendo since the Wii?

I am actually in support of the 3DS sticking around a little while longer, cause I believe Nintendo has created a bad habit of dropping support after a new console releases. I think it leaves a sour taste in your mouth. The 3DS also has a strong userbase of purchasing power. I think it's silly to kill it off if it's still selling — and it is. The Wii U is different animal in that regard since the userbase is not that big to begin with. Releasing more games for it would be an utter waste of time and resources — and only for some company goodwill — They barely were able to support 2 consoles (handheld and home), so they certainly can't afford 3.

And sure the ports, always a point of contention that every new console goes through. This is not a new issue for anyone, and it will always be an issue as long as gaming is alive. Ports for me? Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, I sold my Wii U copy and paid less than 20 bucks for the Switch version. Hyrule Warriors. Not interested, I played it on Wii U and don't feel the need to play it again. See? Generally that's how it works for ports. We're all different depending on the game.

So now you LIKE shovelware cluttering up your Nintendo systems? SMH I don't understand you guys anymore...

Impressive.

@Crono1973 All consoles from every company have shovelware, deal with it. Do you own any non-Nintendo consoles? If yes, go check their equivalent of the e-shop, plenty there. Do you want to talk about shovelware on the 3DS and the Wii U? Plenty there as well. Have you seen the RCMADIAX games?

@MoonKnight7 We aren't talking about new retail Wii U games (though I could see it if those games have been in development for years). No, people whine when the Wii U gets VC games. Like last week the Wii U got another TG16 game and we got the usual whining that Wii U was still getting games. It just makes Switch owners look like they have nothing to play on the Switch. People female dogging about Radiant Historia coming to 3DS instead of Switch fail to realize that 3DS and Wii U both have a second screen and games that use that second screen would be a downgrade on the Switch. Remember when Breath of the Wild on Wii U lost it's second screen use because the Switch has no second screen (even though it could in docked mode).

"by its 279th day, Switch had 191 games available. It took Wii U almost 400 more days to reach that figure, proving just how shallow its developmental pool truly was."

@Dom I couldn't disagree more. Yes, the Switch has more hype and more developers hopping onto the hype train, that's true.

But you're leaving out the crucial fact that the overwhelming majority of of these 279 games are just ports (from Wii U, PC, Xbox 360, PS3, Xbox One, PS4).
So it has nothing to do with a 'shallow developmental pool' but more with the fact that porting a piece of software doesn't take a lot of ressources (compared to creating something from scratch).

So, obviously these 279 Switch games were released a lot quicker because ports don't need designing, planning and not that much developing. They can be done a lot faster because most of the work has already been done.

Now, I'm not denying that the Wii U still had less hype - and more importantly, a smaller install base to attract developers - and therefore got less games than the Switch will have at the end of its life cycle.
Nor am I denying that the Wii U also had some ports.
But - relatively speaking - it had a lot more original titles (I'm not saying 'exclusive' because some exclusives like Rayman Legends and Lego City Undercover were later ported to other platforms), which obviously took more time to come up with and to implement.

@Timsworld Why is not saving on a cartridge a problem? My take, a cartridge could get lost and that 100 hour rpg you've been spending hours on with the save data on that cartridge gone.

@Captain_Toad What good is a save with a lost game card?

@gortsi I absolutely agree that all consoles have shovelware but you won't see me counting the number of titles a console/Steam/App Store/Play Store has because most of them are likely poo and not worth counting.

Have you ever seen those clone consoles that say they have hundreds of games built in but when you see them you realize that most of them are complete garbage games?

@Crono1973 Isn't your save data on the system itself?

@Crono1973 I have indeed. In response to your first point, the article presents data on the total number of games and makes no claims as to their quality. It's simple as that, nothing more nothing less.

@Captain_Toad You missed the point, a save and a game go together. However while the game is useful with a lost save, a save is worthless with a lost game card.

@gortsi Which is why it's up to us to point out that the number of games matters little if they are mostly garbage.

@Crono1973 well that's for each individual to determine. I've met people that thought Wii Sports was shovelware. I would never agree, but I can't do anything about their opinion either

@Anti-Matter you paid $50 bucks for 1,2 switch?? :/

Most of the eshop is shovelware indies and crap neogeo titles, and ports. If you like playing old stuff and indies , I guess there's "tons" to play

@gortsi Which is why a straight up game count as promotion is worthless.

@Crono1973
"My problem is that people act like the Switch is soooo amazing because they can take it on the train with them. Well you have been able to game on the train since atleast 1989. Then when you point that out people are all about how powerful the Switch is and while it is a powerful handheld, it is not a powerful console so it's pretty convenient to only mention power when it suits you.

My other problem with Switch owners is the constant port begging and whining when a game comes out for Wii U and/or 3DS. That just tells me that the Switch's supposedly amazing library isn't that amazing after all. Some people want all support for Wii U and 3DS dropped because they are jealous that Switch doesn't get EVERY game."
1. So what's the problem with Power ?? Does it really matter for you ?? You will not die just because Switch is not powerful as PC. And even IF Switch more powerful than Xbox One X, will it make it better only for you ? How egoistic.

2. What makes you think if Switch library games are NOT Amazing just because other players still wishing for ports from Wii U or 3DS ??
They are STILL Wishing, but doesn't mean it will create a bunch of crappy games. Nintendo decide what games for Switch not based on any gamer wishes, but from what is Nintendo think should be Perfect for Switch after long deliberation.
If you think Switch library games SHOULD be Sterile from ports, it just WASTING the opportunity for great games from Wii U that overshadowed by Wii U's Failure.
And just because there are some ports from Wii U, it doesn't mean the games are tainting the awesoneness of Switch library games. Instead, the ports are ENRICHING the Diversity of Switch games library and that means, A lot of choices to be played.

3. You still keep saying there are a lot of Shovelwares from e-shop. What's really big deal for you ??
Just because it looks crappy in your taste, it doesn't mean the games are NOT Allowed to be sold. Other peoples may think the e-shop games are Gems. Just let them buy, enjoy that games, despite you don't like to see they play the games that you think a shovelware.
And what will you gonna do if you see a people nearby of you playing games that you see with your naked eyes are Shovelware for you ?
Will you gonna attack that people just because the games are Shovelware for you and they are NOT Allowed to play that games ??

My advice for you : Lower your Ego and Pride to be called a Gamer. Gamer is still called a Gamer, even just bring handhelds on the go REGARDLESS of their power or the games they play. Does it bother you if you still find some people still play GBA or NDS or 3DS on the go in public , despite they are LESS Powerful than Switch ??

@8-Bit_Superman So to you, the save file is worth more than the game itself?

@8-Bit_Superman
Well yeah, once you get over a couple of thousand of games, it's handy to have.
Not to mention how it can be fun to reminisce when looking at which games you picked up in the early 90's and where.
It really tells a whole story when it goes back far enough.

@Crono1973 Some people prefer the system method but you're staunch on the cartridge save business....Let's just agree to disagree then.

@Mgene15
"you paid $50 bucks for 1,2 switch?? "
Not yet, but i will buy 1-2 Switch this year.
I can't wait to try Telephone mini games.
Just look how exciting and funny to play 1-2 Switch games based on this video.

@shani If we're looking only at boxed retail games, Switch has decimated WiiU in year-1 original content. BotW, Bomberman, Odyssey, Rabbids, ARMS, 1-2-Switch, FE Warriors, Kirby (does that count as year 1 or 2? It misses year 1 by 2 weeks, and I included 3D World in wiiU which missed by a month...) )

What did WiiU have? ZombiU, NintendoLand, NSMBU, LCU, 3D World, and Sonic Lost Worlds?

And I'm only including boxed, retail games that are not ports or multiplats, and excluding a myriad of budget tiered games such as Longest 5 Minutes that are exclusive.

Yeah, the digital games that flood the market in 2018 in a way that didn't happen in 2013 changes the numbers and makes it apples to oranges, but if we just go with physical retail it's not that different a picture.

@Anti-Matter 1) Power doesn't matter to me personally, I play mostly retro game but if you use power to promote a console/handheld then I am free to make the power comparison to other systems on the market. You don't want me to talk about power, I won't if you won't.

2 & 3) This article is about counting games whether they are quality games or not and I think that's make the result a worthless number. Also, using Wii U ports to pad the numbers AGAINST the Wii U itself is BS and you know it.

I don't call myself a gamer and yes, I still play old games mostly. NES, TG16, Sega Master System, SNES, Genesis, on and on. You have this idea that I care about power, I don't but if you don't want it turned on you, don't use in your argument.

In the near future I will be buying either Secret of Mana HD on the Vita or Radiant Historia on the 3DS. I am no stranger to handheld games and that is why the portability of the Switch just isn't that impressive to me. I also have an iPad Air which has a huge screen so I no stranger to tablets either.

@Crono1973 Chrono Trigger is a really bad example.. Let's take Doom for example. A high quality game that requires a lot of power to run, which the Switch apparantly has. It's not an old pixel game, it's new and it looks amazing.

That aside, it doesn't matter how you play Doom, on TV or handheld. It's just that you can play anywhere you like, anyway you like.

Honestly, I'm sure Nintendo is working at a successor for the 3DS. But the Wii U is dead, get over it.

Wii U had a web browser on day 1 though, didn't it? Grr

@Anti-Matter "Just because it looks crappy in your taste, it doesn't mean the games are NOT Allowed to be sold."

"Just let them buy, enjoy that games, despite you don't like to see they play the games that you think a shovelware."

"Will you gonna attack that people just because the games are... for you and they are NOT Allowed to play that games ??"

The irony here is ASTOUNDING! Everything your chastising Crono1973 for is EXACTLY what you do every time an article pops up the an M rated game or every time GTAV is mentioned.

Seriously man follow your own advice and lower your ego.

@Captain_Toad I have to agree about missing saves on the cart. That was a big added value to carts. With Switch like with 3DS I maintain two units. One I keep with my "big" game I'm working through always running, and one I tinker with smaller games or pieces of a bigger game I noodle with for short periods in spare time. Sadly, if I take, say, FE Warriors out of my one console to move on to Rabbids, the save does not follow it to the other console so it's pointless. If they introduce cloud saves that will fix it, but cart saves solved that problem all by itself since 1984.

@Mgene15 Most of the PSN store (and Steam for that matter) is a mixture of the same trash indies, "season passes" and "costume DLC" for individual games stretched across 20 tiles, and virtual currency bundles in varying amounts. Filtering the wheat from the chaff is unfortunately a reality on all digital game storefronts these days.

@meppi wow a couple thousand games! That's crazy I have maybe 30 physical but 100s digital across all systems. How do you have space for all that lol

@Captain_Toad I am more likely to have multiple consoles than I am to ever lose a game. Being able to easily move a game and a save file between consoles is important to me. I have:

2 devices that play GBA games (DS Lite & Game Boy Player)

3 devices that play DS games (DS Lite & 2 3DS's)

2 devices that play 3DS games (2 3DS's)

3 devices that play Vita games (2 Vita's and 1 PS TV)

3 devices that play 360 games (Xbox One & 2 360's)

3 devices that play PS3 games (3 PS3's)

5 devices that play Gamecube games (3 Gamecubes & 2 Wii's)

and on and on....

On the 3DS, DS, GBA and Gamecube I don't have to worry about transfering save files. With the Gamecube the only extra step is to take the memory card with your game.

On the others where the games saves to the system (some Vita games don't) you have to transfer them. It's kind of a pain if the save files are locked or protected.

Now if you can't keep up with your games and you have to repurchase them over and over again then you have bigger problems than losing a save file, IMO.

@redd214 I had a ton of stuff packed up in boxes since I didn't have any room left. Only had the games I currently played out in cabinets.
Sold my old place and bought a new home a couple of years ago. Got a bit more space now. Although less money to buy new games.

That's amazing! Makes me feel kinda bad for the Wii U though 😂

@Crono1973
Just because Nintendo Switch is still New, doesn't mean playing them on public will make you like a stranger.
What's so different bringing Switch or Ipad on the go ? They are SAME Portable devices.
I bring my Switch on the go, in public place, to let other people know about Switch existence. If they are curious about Switch, i can explain them about Switch and from there it will promote about Nintendo Switch.
Beside, you have 3DS, right ?
3DS is SAME Portable devices as Switch anyway.

@8-Bit_Superman
Well it's a rather old house that needs a ton of work still, but it's out in the countryside with a nice garden and tons of wildlife, so I'm really happy.

@Saego The better looking the game, the more likely I am to want to play it on a big TV. I imagine I am not alone. My Chrono Trigger example was generous compared to your example which favors playing on a TV.

@Anti-Matter I don't know what you want me to say here? I never said that playing the Switch in public makes you look like a stranger.

I am a little concerned that you play it public to advertise it's existence. Is Nintendo paying you for that? I have seen people driving cars with a big company logo on them like Tupperware, I just assumed that Tupperware provided them the car in exchange for their driving it to advertise.

This seems like a

@redd214
The reason why do i Against those Damn games, because they are 100% Toxin, A Real Danger in front of me. They are just Pure 100% Cigarette with NO Positive effects At All. Btw, as a librarian and teacher in Primary school, i have ZERO Tolerance with smoking, adult games & adult entertainments.

Also, my horrible experiences in the past accumulated in my brain and create my Hatred against those Damn things.
I have seen with my naked eyes how Awful those Damn games. They are More Dangerous than cheap shovelware games.

And thank you for remind me if i still did wrong for some occasions. I need some corrections.

@Agramonte
I mean, last May was headlined by a Wii U game, as was September.

Can't "deliver a hit" every single month. Just getting a great game every month, even if some are Wii U ports... is plenty. Besides the fact plenty of people want those Wii U ports, and not just the ones who haven't played them.

We got more "hits" in the first 12 months than just about any other console in history. So ya, if we get a couple months with a Wii U game tossed in... it's hardly breaking stride in doing so. By the end of 2018 we'll have had a dozen more top shelf exclusives added to the library. Maybe 2 or 3 are "big hits". That's how it goes.

@Crono1973
I like to play my favorite Handhelds on the go, even on public. I don't mind if other people know i play specific games or what handhelds i play. I do it by my initiative, not because Nintendo paid me to promote Switch. It's just so Natural for me to take my Switch in public place. If people are keep busy with their smartphones on public, i can do same thing with my Switch.

@NEStalgia Very true about download vs physical...even the SNES had a few duds.

What matters to me is that more games are being released...I would prefer physical but I'm starting to realize the value of downloading multiple games on the portable system. At least the library is growing and Switch is getting third party support from the indies.

@Dizzy_Boy: 4chan!

@MoonKnight7 Absolutely. WiiU's release era wasn't quite so heavy into digital distribution on consoles though. Later on more digital games arrived, but it was after PS4/X1 launched that that paradigm really bloomed. Even for 3DS it bloomed more after that time, so the shovelware just wasn't accumulating digitally in that year 1 window like it is on Switch. Personally the first 4 months of the eShop on Switch is the best indies have ever been to me. Then I went back to mostly ignoring them except the big ones

Switch's memory constraints make that more of an issue, where carts really do have a mechanical purpose beyond bandwidth restrictions and and collecting. I'm kind of going 20/80. Online games that I may want to play at the drop of a hat because someone is online and wants to play I'm going digital so it's always there, and everything else physical (eShop titles aside of course...but there, as with Steamworld Dig 2, the better titles seem to go physical eventually so it's worth waiting.

@oOFincHyOo Neither Wii nor Wii U had Smash Bros. games in their first year. They both received Smash titles two years into their respective lives.

Nintendo did a great job with the roll out this time. It's funny how sparce we all whined it'd be, but it actually felt great and kept the energy up.

On the other hand, Switch still has a lot of older ports, even some of the big first party flagship titles.

Maybe, but it also seems to be a dumping ground for a lot of below average indi games. Well according to the reviews anyway.

Now that's what you call a steady stream. The Wii is not that fair a comparison because neither download nor (ugh) shovelware kicked off that early.

@zool At least it's not RCMADIAX's private toilet like the WiiU was towards the end.

@NEStalgia I think you clicked on the wrong "Knight" Did you intend that for @BlueKnight07 ?

And yet I own less Switch games at this point in its lifecycle than I did the Wii U

@shani Dude, the facts speak for themselves. The 191 games on Switch (at the date quoted) are all, on average, higher rated games. Doesn't matter that some of them are ports - unlike most other machines, many of these titles have never been handheld so being ported to a system that provides that functionality is a benefit no other version has supported. We love Wii U at Nintendo Life, but the fact remains it was the wrong console at the wrong time.

For all those crying about all the shovelware that is supposedly "skewing" the comparison in the Switch's favor, here is the comparison for the number of "good" (80+ Metacritic score) games released across the Wii, Wii U, and Switch:
http://cms.kotaku.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/good-comparison.png

@westman98 That's certainly something!

Now how about a graph for exclusives.

For those who complaining about the relevance of some of these titles, here is the comparison for the number of "good" (80+ Metacritic score) games released across the Wii, Wii U, and Switch that have at least 40 reviews (aka no random eShop titles with 5-10 reviews):

http://cms.kotaku.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/good-big-comparison.png

@Crono1973 We can do without the profanity, please...

@Anti-Matter wow. Enjoy 1-2 switch when you buy it. You'll love it. I thought you would buy it day 1.
If you find the telephone game fun. You'd love all of the mini games.

@Joeynator3000 What profanity?

@MoonKnight7 MoonKnight, BlueKnight, Meta Knight, Shovel Knight. What's the difference?

@Anti-Matter The best correction would be to not comment on articles that are about games you are uninterested in.

I got my Wii U October 2013 and it was my only console (besides a PC and other handhelds) up until I got the Switch. In total I bought exactly 50 games for the system, including downloads and retail games. For the Switch I currently have 38 games between cartridges and downloads. Yes I do have lots more money now to spend on games but still it shows there's a big difference. And there's more games on the Switch I want and will buy soon too.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Kotaku and Gizmodo run under the same parent company, it's not uncommon to see the same articles on both sites.

@BezBot How many of your Switch games are Wii U ports?

You want to know what I make of these figures? More friggin epic fun to be had!

@Crono1973 Don't be such a troll. You're whining about " that Switch owners would quit wishing for the end of support for the Wii U and 3DS", but then you say that you want to play games on the TV (which only the Switch can from Nintendo's devices).

@electrolite77

Yeah seriously. Pretty ballsy to say the Switch has shovelware when the Wii U and now 3DS is being littered with RCMADIAX's trash. I'll take Vroom in the Night Sky any day over that.

@Saego I don't understand your post.

I wonder though, will the people currently pooping on the Wii U and 3DS be pooping on the Switch when the next console launches? Was there a time when these people were praising the Wii U and 3DS while pooping on the DS and the Wii?

@Dizzy_Boy The store shelf. The VAST majority of these are digital. As a fan of physical media I am a bit disappointed, but you can't stop progress....

Ports ports ports

My Wii u n 3ds hybrid

@Crono1973 When the time is right, why not? Don't ask these kind of stupid questions.

@Saego So you are saying that your current praise of the Switch is worthless because in a few years you will be hating on it too?

@Crono1973 A few. I have MK8DX even though I already owned MK8. I also rebought Minecraft for the Switch even though I had on Wii U. Plus Lego City Undercover I have on both systems. And maybe BOTW can be included in the list considering it's on WIi U. Shovel Knight is on Wii U but only bought it on the Switch, the same is with Resident Evil Revelations. So in total 6 games I have on the Switch you can play on the Wii U, not counting updated content, and 4 of the games I bought again for the Switch.

People should actually read the Kotaku article (or at least look at the many charts featured in said article), rather than glance at a single chart and dismiss the data as "so much shuvelware".

With the Switch selling so well it’s no surprise to me at all. The Wii U was very painful waiting for games!!

@westman98 "I'd rather be wrong than read Kotaku" - Somebody out there, probably.

more than a half of those are indie shovelware

@TheOpponent
Sounds like a lot of people think that way, if the comments on this article are anything to go by.

@electrolite77

Yep so true. We literally go through this every generation cycle. You could cut and paste the arguments from 2012 and they’d still be relevant today.

@BensonUii i want to give you a proper response, but this current huge Switch drought is really getting to me.

@Crono1973
Are you really this passionate about people's perception of the switch? I agree with some of your points but you are beating a dead horse.

@Obitokamui64 Hyperbole is my enemy.

Its the AA titles that matters (Stardew is at least AA). Not mobile or indie mini game ports. Where are the new games? were already on February and last four months we only had Xenoblade and Mario

@Crono1973
Lol. Switch is okay. Lots of indie games and ports but some really strong first party games mixed in. I'm the kind of gamer that will play the same multiplayer games over and over again so I'm okay with the line up because of splatoon.

I will say this about the Wii U, at least it had a Western Monster Hunter game. I hope Capcom announces something for the Switch, soon!

All the more reason Nintendo needs to revamp the eshop.

This actually isn’t true.

The Wii U could backplay Wii games... so that’s a library.

It also could go into Wii mode and download Wii virtual console and wiiware titles. So that’s another library.

They're not that much different in quality to be honest. Marginal differences. Obviously great games but not 'far higher in quality too'

@Roam85
Is your arm okay? Reaching that far must hurt.

@Crono1973 I don't.

@SomeWriter13 I'm sure they are working on MH:XX for Switch, but World was there priority.

@westman98 it’s a reach to point out the Wii u’s Functions and available games in an article on the Wii u’s Available games?

@dimi Stardew is still indie.

@Saego the sad part is that they already have MH:XX for Switch.

It's MH:GU (or GG) that's missing. Still holding out hope they'll launch it after MHW has had its time in the sun.

@Roam85
Yes. Claiming that backwards compatibility equates software releases is the very definition of reaching.

It's like when the child of a rich family acquires the wealth from his/her family, and then claiming that it the child who earned all that money and not the parents.

@Crono1973 That's kind of the amazing thing. Even on the eShop, the $10-$20 titles have an astonishingly high hit-rate.

It's like a reflex. I've spent so long settling for Nintendo systems' few (absolutely incredible) games. I almost don't know how to react when so many top-notch indie and 3rd party titles are coming through the pipes. I'm so used to ignoring WiiWare titles that I can't even process it. This is gonna be expensive, you guys.

@Anti-Matter I bought switch three weeks ago as a second console and I am already disappointed with it. Small library, no third party support, very limited hardware, very expensive 5-6 years old games are just few things come to my mind. If there is any reason to buy Switch must be either for the Nintendo games or for the ability to play a small amount of good, but old indie games on the go (which you could already do with a Vita if you have one which has a much larger library of indie games than the switch.) I think I will put it on ebay in this week. I don’t even want to hear anything about it.

@westman98 I never claimed it equaled software releasing.

I claimed it equaled software available.

Though for the virtual console titles released on the Wii u’s Eshop, specifically the Wii ones (Metroid Prime trilogy and Mario Galaxy), there also is certainly an argument for released titles, though I believe at this point in the life cycle even that was just snes, n64, and nes titles (GBA, Wii, Turbografx, and DS titles would come later).

I mean if Switch gets to count smartphone ports, many of which (much like the virtual console games) are a lot of fun.

@formulas666
Ah, pity of you.
You just NEVER understand what it called good games from Nintendo.
Me, i got at least 16 Switch games during 2017 (All Physical release, No E-Shop games only)
What do you mean No 3rd party ??
Tell me what are FIFA 18, WWE 2K18, LEGO CITY UNDERCOVER, Super Bomberman R, etc ?
Are they Foods / Drinks ??

@formulas666
Are you mad? Small game library my foot. You are obviously incredibly biased against the system based on what you perceive as games. You must be fun at parties.

@Roam85
I pointed this out in the comments, but if you were to only account for 80+ Metacritic games with at least 40 reviews, the Switch would still have more games than the Wii and Wii U during the equivalent time frame. No data is being artificially inflated, nor does even more data need to artificially inflated to make The comparisons seem more "valid."

@westman98 why would a virtual console title on Wii U get at least 40 reviews? Especially given how many were Wii ‘upgradable’ VC titles? I’m sorry, but That parameter actually seems directly contradictory to the games I’m pointing out are overlooked.

Now you could have pointed out that by this point in the Wii u’s Life cycle there were all of 44 VC games released, which combined with released titles still isn’t close to Switch and saved us both some time.

Though once again, if you’re just talking in terms of software available, then it inherits the full Wii library.

But software released Switch definitely has more. But that data defense still had a hole.

And the headline says Switch now has three times as many games as Wii U had at this point in the lifecycle. That number is inaccurate, especially as it didn’t use the parameter ‘released’ it used the parameter ‘has/had’ which would seem to encompass all games available.

@CuriousUserX90 I recently sent a letter to the LA Convention Centre and Nokia Theatre for Nintendo to see. This is what I had to say in the letter to be received in June:

“Hi Nintendo of America and Nintendo in General

Mainly I’m directing this message to Reggie, Bill, Kit, Krysta, Mr. Kimishima and Mr. Konno. I’m one of your fans. I’m not exactly a Game Critic myself, but I someday hope to be, not to mention the fact that I hope to attend E3 myself some year. Basically I directed this letter to the Los Angeles Convention Centre for you to receive when you go there for E3 this year, and hope that you’ll have read it before you shoot your E3 Presentation in how ever you’ll do it this year, which I yet again don’t think will be a Press Conference, of which I’ll have probably figured by the tone you receive this message.

Thought I’d talk with you about your E3 Presentation for a bit, somewhere in it, please do simply announce the fact that a New Mario Kart game is in development for the Nintendo Switch, like you did with Metroid Prime 4 last year, that is if the time is right. Sooner you do announce the Next Official Mario Kart game with 16 NEW Nitro and Retro Tracks, sooner we can be assured that the Switch Port of Mario Kart 8 does not apply to your tradition with the Mario Kart Franchise of being one new game per system due to being a port of a Previous game with the same 32 Tracks and not a newgame, and that it’s meaning of Existence is the Same as the Other Switch Ports of Wii U games. Mario Kart has been the Most Popular of all Mario Spinoffs, and we’ve been lucky to see a new game of it on each and every Nintendo System, with new features that continue to amaze us. I’m sure that Mr. Konno’s goal has been to release a NEW Mario Kart game on each and every Nintendo System anyway, but it’s unknown right now if these consistent gaps between the release of game game are merely a coincidence or intentional. Speaking of, at last year I sent letters out to 4 Game Developers at the Nintendo Headquarters in Kyoto, Japan, one of them being for Mr. Konno, which I hope has been received. This is what I said to him in the letter in Japanese:

“
紺野秀樹

マリオカートフランチャイズについて聞いてみたいことがあります。ご存知のように、任天堂システムごとに新しいマリオカートのゲームが1つあります。あなたの目標はそれぞれのゲームをリリースすることでしたが、各ゲームの一貫したギャップ彼らはポートであるか、公式ゲームであることを意図しているかどうか、またはそれらが偶然であるかどうか）。誰もが疑問に思っていたのは、マリオカート8のポートをWii Uからスイッチにリリースしたにもかかわらず、最終的に16の新しいニトロとレトロトラックで新しいオフィシャルゲームを期待するべきなのです。私が言ったように、あなたの目標は、すべての任天堂システムで新しいマリオカートゲーム（すべてのマリオスピノフの人気）をリリースすることだったと確信しています。 Mario Kart 8 DeluxeはWii Uが他のWii Uゲームと同様の理由で来ていたため、Mario Kart 8の単なるポートに過ぎません。それがポートであるためシステムごとに1つのゲームを行うという伝統に適用されます。 Nintendoはコンソールハンドヘルドのハイブリッドなので、任天堂は結局のところ、次の4,5,6年に焦点を当てるシステムを1つしか持っていない。

マリオカート8デラックスあなたが知っているように、私たちはWii Uゲームで愛していたマリオカートのテレビ機能を削除しました。新しいトラックはなく、ロックを解除する必要はありません。加えて、マリオ以外のキャラクターとのニンテンドーオールスターズレーシングゲームのように見えます。もちろん、Koopa Jr.、Teresa、Karonの方にはあなたのことがうれしいですが、過去にDiddy Kongのようにレースを楽しんでいた親しみやすいマリオキャラクターが欠けています。とにかくWii Uのゲームでレーストラックに乗っていた理由は、バトルアリーナをバトルモードに戻すことができて良かったですか？マリオカート8が批判を受けたことのいくつかは、バトルモードでのバトルアリーナの欠如と、親しいマリオキャラクターの不足があります。全体的に私はあなたがMario Kart 8に1人のキャラクターを残してしまったと考えています、他のゲームのようにレーサーの偶数の合計とMiisの独自のスロットを与えないという事実を断念しました。コオパ・ジュニアは最近、マリオ・パーティー・ゲームへの参加、マリオRPGへの参加、さらにはスーパー・スマッシュ・ブラザーズでの戦闘になった彼自身のクーパ・クラウン・カーで、近年より多くの認知を得始めていましたが、彼のために私たちはKoopalingsと共にマリオカート8に含まれていないであろう。

フランチャイズについてお聞きしたいことがいくつかあります。各ゲームのキャラクターをどうやって決めますか？誰もが驚いていたことの一つは、メタルマリオとピンクゴールドピーチをどうやって思いついたのですか？ナヴィットのような親しみやすいマリオキャラクターたちが最終的にフランチャイズに登場することをいつも期待していますか？あなたがMario Kart DSで始まる各マリオカートゲームのレトロトラックをどうやって決めるのですか？私はMario Kart 7で、N64のトラックはすべて同じカップ（Kinoko Cup）のもので、Waluigiはゲームに参加していないにもかかわらず、DS Waluigi Pinballを特集していました。もちろんゲーム後のゲームでは、Mario Kart 8でどれくらいの細かいディテールを入れているかなど、私たちを驚かせることができます。私たちがレトロトラックとして見たいと思っていることを私たちの言葉で聞いたのかどうかは分かりませんが、多くのファンはまだキノコシティとトッドファクトリーのように戻ってくる特定のものを見ることがなくなっています。以前のマリオカートからすべての曲を使い切ったら、どうしたらいいですか？

ここに私たちが疑問に思っているものがあります。最終的にミッションモードとダブルダッシュモードを復活させ、各レーサー独特のアイテムをフランチャイズにもたらします。これはデビューゲームでのみ使用されています。

とにかく、フランチャイズとの良い仕事を続けて、各分割払いで私たちを驚かせ続ける。うまくいけば、私があなたにここに述べたようなものについての詳細を与えることができます。また、スーパーマリオオデッセイで見られるようないくつかの面とともに、16台の新しいニトロとレトロトラックを備えた新しいマリオカートのゲームが最終的に完成するかどうかを確かめることもできます。私の意見では、あなたは最終的にシステムの新しいマリオカートゲームをリリースし、マリオカート8デラックスのような詩はあなたのルーチンには適用されないことを願っています。ヘック、将来のシステムは、トップ100トラックの編集かもしれない公式のマリオカートゲームとマリオカートを持っているかもしれません。前にも述べたように、マリオカートのフランチャイズはマリオスピノフスの中で最も人気がありました。そして、私たちはニンテンドーゲームの新しいゲームを見て嬉しく思います。自分自身も含めて、あなたが私たちを驚かせ続けることを願っています。フランチャイズの今後の分割払いで、今後数年間で1つの最後のこと、1年私は自分自身がゲーム評論家になることを願っています。私は現時点ではそうではありません。そうすれば、ゲームにもっと近づき、もっとよく知ることができます。
“

In regards to the Next Official Mario Kart game for the Nintendo Switch, good luck with however it turns out such as with the Retro Track choices, and hopefully Good Character choices. I also say good luck to however your E3 Presentation is this year, hopefully you’ll announce the Development of the Next Official Mario Kart game for the Switch in it. These Switch Ports of Wii U games I’m sure are not at all interfering with eventual new games, a Bayonetta 2 port isn’t stopping an Eventual Bayonetta 3, and you released both a Hyrule Warriors Port and a Fire Emblem Warriors. We fans have been lucky to see NEW Mario Kart games on each and every Nintendo System that continue to amaze us with what’s been come up with in them. Hope you see this letter before E3 starts/before you arrive in Los Angeles and record your presentation, I sent it from my part of the world on February 10th 2018.

One last thing, you might also want to pass this onto Hideki Konno, the creator of the Mario Kart Franchise, it would certainly if he himself saw what I have to say in this letter as well.”

If during whatever sort of Presentation they do this year they can announce that a NEW Mario Kart game is in development for the Switch, I’ll finally be after getting my hands on a Switch myself sometime after E3.

"Switch Now Has Three Times As Many Games as Wii U Did At This Point In Its Lifecycle"

But they are almost all small, super-expensive downloads...