UPDATE: Publisher-cum-developer Starbreeze has confirmed that the Nintendo Switch version of PAYDAY 2 is indeed outdated in terms of updates. In an official response to Polygon, it confirmed the port includes content up until last year's Most Wanted update.
The firm says Nintendo Switch will be supported post-launch with patches to update the experience, but didn't explicitly state whether the handheld entry will be brought in line with other consoles and PC. It said, "to get the game out in early 2018 on Switch meant that our team had to go with the content ported and available at the time of console submission."
PAYDAY 2 is only two days away for those of you living in the EU (it'll launch next week on the 27th for our chums in North America), and with our review set to go live at the same time, we thought we'd cover everything we know when it comes to parity (and disparity) between the version on Switch and those on other consoles.
As a caveat, we're not comparing the iteration on Switch to the PC version, but instead we'll be using the Crimewave Editions - which launched on PS4 and Xbox One in June 2015 - as our measuring stick. So down to the important stuff - how does the handheld-centric version stack up?
In terms of content, the Nintendo Switch edition isn't that much different from the current version available on PS4. There are 58 missions on PS4 right now, and 50 available on Nintendo Switch. However, it should be noted that some of these heists on PS4 require paid-for DLC, while a number of these heists have been included as standard on Switch at launch.
Weapons
Regarding weapons, there's the same number of killing tools available in both the Switch iteration and the one available on other consoles.
Masks
There are well over 300 masks on PS4, but only 278 on Switch. Many of these locked behind progression tiers and post-game card rewards in both versions, so while one number is higher than the other, that's still a massive selection of identity-hiding accessories packed into the handheld version.
Playable Characters
There 17 playable characters on Switch and 16 on other consoles, but that additional heister - Joy, the hacker - is a timed exclusive only. She'll eventually come to the other versions of the game.
Technical Updates
The other area where things get a little more complicated - and something that's been getting a lot of traction on Reddit - is where the Nintendo Switch entry stands in terms of technical updates.
Publisher Starbreeze has officially confirmed the Switch version of the game is around a year behind other platforms and includes content and changes up until last year's Most Wanted update. However, it's still a murky situation as the game includes the John Wick character but no Continental missions. However, it does include the Hotline Miami missions and a tie-in mask.
The Switch version includes community-made billboard designs, but doesn't include the other content that was patched in when these changes were made on other platforms. It's a complicated situation, to say the least, but at least we have an official line on where the game stands at launch.
It's also important to note that the PS4 and Xbox One versions are behind the PC entry in terms of updates, and the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions haven't been updated since 2015. Issues with update parity have dogged Payday 2 on other platforms for years, so the problem is a frustrating one, but not all that surprising. Starbreeze says it will be supporting Switch with post-launch updates.
Be sure to check out our full review on Friday, for the official verdict on Payday 2 on Switch. And we're always happy to hear though thoughts and takes below.
[source polygon.com]
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Not my kind of game but I really hope it does well.
Is this multiplayer local? Or online, I kinda wanna get it on Switch. But I have it on my XBone.
Local and online multiplayer!
This doesn't appeal to me in the slightest for some reason. Maybe I would like it if I tried it though.Something similar to Splatoon's Global Testfire running over the launch weekend would certainly help the game's chances of success as I can't see it doing well. Hope I'm wrong.
I would stay away from this game. The PS4 version was ignored for over a year with promised content/bug fixes only to arrive after the player base dwindled, and now they are doing the exact same thing with the Switch version. The fact that it is a year behind the PC version (Just like the PS4 version when it launched) shows how committed they are.
Nice roundup, much appreciated!
@Dom the only thing that confuses me is: is local multiplayer an option on the Switch?
Because I think I read the other versions don’t have it, but it’s there in the feature list of the other article. Or at least that’s what I believe “Local multiplayer, so you can all play on your own Switch on the same network.” means. So is there any kind of split-screen, couch co-op?
I wonder if this port is going to be broken like the other versions were when they launched? Wouldn't expect nothing less from these lazy devs.
Looks like there's a history of poor support here, which is shame. Sounds like one to avoid.
Someone should make a table that shows in a simple visual manner the various updates each systems version of the game has.
Also, under technical, I was expecting some comment about frame rate and definition - the usual things people want to highlight as being inferior on Switch compared with the more powerful systems....
Not my cup of tea. Unfortunately I have no time for coop play, and if I'll ever be looking for a shooter double-dipping DOOM will be the way to go
Outdated old port for $50 bucks. Another Switch game priced out of the market. 19.99 and you will sell a few of these.
$10 more and I can get Yakuza 6 with an Art Book.
@clvr Heya. Local Play is basically a way to party-up and play heists with up to three other friends who are connected to the same local network. There's no split-screen functionality.
The devs' attitude to the console releases continues to be appalling, so they will not be getting my money.
@Dom oh so multiple consoles and copies of the game then, that’s unfortunate.
Thanks for your reply!
avoid. warning warning. avoid avoid. warning. avoid. warning.
I was interested in this game, but people have consistently said the devs don't care about the console versions. I'll have to hold onto my money until a deep discount comes around. Even then, I'm not sure about it...
Don't get too excited about this game, it gets boring really quickly.
And it's also only fun with friends (just like other cooperative action games). And I mean, it's really a lot of fun with friends, but only for a short while.
It's especially frustrating if you have already experienced the heists in GTA V/GTAO as those were a lot more interesting.
Wow. I was thinking about picking this one up, but after reading some of the comments on here regarding the technical issues and the developer's track record...I think I'll wait.
I'm getting this. If the game sells well it will definitely get future DLC. If it doesn't sell well then forget it.
If they say that "Nintendo Switch will be supported post-launch with patches to update the experience", this is going to be a possible "post-launch" purchase.
I really think us Nintendo fans are "spoiled" with games that are finished and complete from day one... Is this going to continue or is Nintendo also going to become like other developers?
@Ricube not Nintendo, they have a very different vision when it comes to product development and brand.
Others, however... I like Nintendo.
I think people are completely misunderstanding what the updates actually mean and what they are. I have this game on PC since launch and basically every month or so you get an update, but this update is more like free DLC. The devs constantly add new content to the game and fix some minor bugs of course. The article said that the game has about 50 missions or so. I remember in the beginning there were like 5-10 or so, and most of them are basically the same mission except the environment were different.
I made lot of hours in the game and it was and still is very enjoyable. On steam the game is €30 so it's definitely the money worth if it's around the same price range. But of course it's inexcusable that the devs are not updating the console versions like the PC. But people shouldn't say the game is a half finished version unless they played the game when it was first released on pc.
It’s a maybe from me
I'll take a wait and see approach with this game, I'm interested but still had second thoughts about it.
@Dom Publisher- CUM -Developer?
That has an, uh, alternate meaning. May want to correct that.
@Voldemort807 Get your mind out of the gutter.
@Voldemort807 @Dom There is nothing to correct. The word was used correctly. Writers aren't going to pussyfoot around certain words just because a few perverts decided to (surprise!) pervert otherwise innocuous words. Formal definitions must take precedence over colloquialisms. It is not feasible to invent new words every time a word is hijacked and used as vulgar slang (as so much is nowadays).
If you wish to model yourself after Beavis and/or Butt-head, then I suppose that is your prerogative, but don't impose your motion to dumb down our already bastardised hodgepodge of German/Latin/and-a-bit-of-everything-else on others.
unfinished game & overpriced?
I'll wait when it's on sale for 20$...
@sillygostly There is something to correct. I assume he meant Publisher-come-Developer. “Cum”s only definition is an inappropriate one. So unless @Dom was giving us a health class lesson, he may want to change it.
@Voldemort807 : Incorrect. Cum's proper definition (stemming from Latin) means to be combined with, and is often used in between nouns. For God's sake, pick up a dictionary sometime (or do a Google search if you haven't got one lying around).
@sillygostly Oh. I didn’t know that. I concede and am sorry for being rude and bringing it up.
@Voldemort807 : And I apologise for being a bit fiery.
@sillygostly That’s alright. I forgive you
This same developer barely supported the game on other platforms. If at all.
Buy at your own risk.
@sillygostly man you come off sounding like such a douche bag.
You could have corrected him without the “oh gods sake” line, just because you used google to look something up and then corrected him in a schoolteacher I’m so above you tone in words, don’t get on your high horse.
Then you only apologised because he was humble and accepted what you said! Makes you look like a very slimy character.
Love those review embargoes. It's such a transparent and consumer friendly practice.
Was really excited when I saw that John Wick would be in the Switch version.
The rest of the article has given me pause, however. Just like Rime, I will probably just wait this out and see what happens.
Looks like no one will buy this game on their payday...
Got this game during a Steam sale. For the price you couldn’t go wrong. It wasn’t the ultimate bundle of the game or anything like that but probably a later version than the reported Switch version.
Considering what I paid for it then I find the Switch price of this old game very amusing.
But hey, I guess it’s worth whatever an individual is willing to pay for it.
@parasnail I am not even sure if it is worth $20.
I’d prefer COD, but I’ll get this to keep me busy until end of the year... there is only so much doom and Splatoon one can play. Too bad it’s just coop... would be cool if it was like cops v robbers.
I’d prefer COD, but I’ll get this to keep me busy until end of the year... there is only so much doom and Splatoon one can play. Too bad it’s just coop... would be cool if it was like cops v robbers.
Such a cool game concept bungled by a developer that can't really handle the ecosystem of an online shooter. I sympathize with them given the EA/Acti money treadmills that define online gaming, but it still makes me cautious if Switch is a full YEAR behind at launch while even XBO and PS4 are treated poorly and neglected.
Anyone know if they've fixed their pay-to-win debacle yet? That utterly gutted most of the player base, and I thought Switch was their chance to build a new audience....perhaps not....
Avoid like the plague you have been warned. Poor feedback, slow updates and at the start massive console hate is what these Devs stand for.
I doubt you will see a update after a year. In the end it’s your own cash but still at least wait for reviews.
Another Switch-disaster right out of the gate...
They want retail pricing for an outdated by a year Game...yea sure guys I’m looking to be ripped off today...
The producer in that video doesn't even sound enthusiastic about the game. Probably even laughed at Switch owners who plan on buying the game after the video was done, just to please his fatcat managers whilst sitting down all day scoffing pizza.
So do I plan on buying a bad port with outdated content? No. At the end of the day this "game" fulls under the category of shovelware.
@8-Bit_Superman Thank you!
"UPDATE: The Switch version is currently a year behind in updates"
I'll buy it next year then.
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