Square Enix is currently hard at work remaking one of its most beloved JRPGs, Secret of Mana. This SNES classic is right up there with Zelda and Final Fantasy in terms of player adoration, but amazingly the remake isn't coming to Switch.
Speaking to Red Bull, producer Masaru Oyamada explains why Nintendo's console is missing out:
Development for the title began before the Switch was announced, so it was definitely beyond our expectations to see the level of anticipation for the release on the platform grow this much.
However, he didn't shut the door completely:
In terms of our current circumstance, we are unable to immediately state that this will become available on the Switch, but we hope to continue listening to the various requests from our fans.
Interestingly, Oyamada also seemed to hint that Seiken Densetsu 3 – AKA: Secret of Mana 2 – could potentially get a western release at some point:
We do not have any information that can be shared at this moment in time. I, too, would definitely like to do something about this task, so I would be grateful for everyone’s continued support for the Mana series.
Switch fans will have to make do with Seiken Densetsu Collection for the time being, although sadly that still hasn't been confirmed for western release.
[source redbull.com]
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Lemme guess...
Sony bribed SquareEnix to not give any chance for Switch.
Hm....
From what has been released so far of this game, it's unfortunately looking like this might not be a huge loss. The character models look really weird. Still, I think it'd be a better show for Square Enix to support the platform with the title than not.
Don’t care about the remake, just give us the original trilogy.
It really doesn't look very appealing. Plus weak voice acting. It brings nothing to the table. It seems soulless. I'll stick with the original.
NO MORE PORT BEGGING!!!
So basically, they have no good excuse?
I dont want this, I want a localized Seiken Densetsu collection damnit!
I loved the original on the SNES. And the answers sound like this remake on Switch if it ever happens, won't be any time soon.
I'll take the English version of the collection over this travesty any day.
I guess Square Enix doesn't like money.
Oh well, Ill just play on my VITA in February. Why usually better not to put all ones eggs in on basket
The game is coming to VITA, Square noone believes your BS...
Not a chance Sony pays for exclusivity. Seems an honest response to me.
Square must be desperate and are just not jumping on the Switch hype, like Ubisoft and Bethesda. That's quite a shame
@Spoony_Tech
"but we hope to continue listening to the various requests from our fans."
That's exactly what they want.
@Rika_Yoshitake The Vita version of the last Mana game did quite well, hence the fact they're bringing this to Vita too. Given that the production of this will have started way before Switch came out, I don't think he's fibbing. Who knows, we may get it in time.
I would rather pick up the original on virtual console anyway, since I missed out back in the day.
Considering how long game development takes, I can believe that Square began the process before knowing about the Switch. However I think that after learning of the Switch, and seeing how well it's doing, they should begin working on a Switch version. This is Square Enix, not some small Indie company with highly limited resources.
Got my SNES classic with Secret of Mana original at least.
@Equinox SE have released quite a few games on Switch already, with another title next week. And lets not forget the exclusive Octopath Traveller coming soon.
This is more than likely another case of devs getting the switch devkits way too late.
I think this looks awful in my opinion, so no real loss. I would much prefer an official English release of Seiken Densetsu 3.
I'm more interested in your Octopath game.
I don't understand the point of this remake, to be honest. It looks far worse than the pixel art of the original. If anything, they should have just taken the original, smoothed it out, and released it as is. I don't understand why they think that this style is more appealing.
@Anti-Matter lol, please. You know that's nonsense, they gave a reasonable explanation, and may still come to the Switch.
And let's be serious, why would Sony even care if this was or wasn't on the Switch?
"Square Enix is currently hard at work remaking one of its most beloved JRPGs"
Fixed it for ya -
"Square Enix is currently hard at work remaking every game it has"
FF7
FF9
FFX
FFXII
KH - every game in the series
DQ7
DQ8
SO:TLH
Squarenix company slogan - "If we've made it, we'll remake it."
Screw companies that force us to port beg. if you don't want our money then I'l give it to someone else.
How about the just release the collection outside Japan like people have been requesting for ages?
I have Seiken Densetsu Collection and managed to play Secret of Mana in Japanese. They need to translate the third game and release it
@rjejr Ha, pretty much. Still...I'd buy more remakes for the Switch.
I tweet Square Enix often on having them localize Seiken Densetsu Collection for the West. I hope too that the remake eventually makes it to Switch, perhaps after it's released on other systems. I'm sure if the demand is there and Square hears from fans, they'll at least get the picture that there's a desire for the game on Switch...especially if those people do not buy it on other systems first.
@rjejr a port/remaster is not the same as a remake.
They don't need to bring it. We all just want the damn collection to come over which would be way better than this remake.
So basically: "wow, we didn't see the success of the Switch coming. We're really on the back foot. Next time, maybe"
@Equinox this will change. Expect 2018 to be the year of Japanese devs putting anything they can on Switch.
So for someone who is a bit of an RPG noobie (only experience I have is Super Mario RPG, don’t judge, I had much different tastes as a kid/teenager/adult) but I’ve been getting an itch to give some of these classics a try (especially now with the SNES Classic). Should I grind through Earthbout first since it seems more noob friendly and then jump into stuff like Mana and FFIII or start with Mana as my next step into the 16-Bit era RPGs?
Keep listening for the fans requests? Fans have been asking for a translated Seiken Densetsu 3 to be released in the West for over 20 years now. How many more requests do they need to read/hear?
A translated remake for Switch would make a killing!
@gblock
Eh, Mana series is strictly action RPGish, very Zelda like but with a 3 player co-op option. Earthbound and FFIII are turnbased, command-based input RPGs, similar to Super Mario RPG. So it depends whether ya feel like leaning toward real time action or something turn based.
Release the mana collection and include the 3d remakes of SOM and Final fantasy Adventure as an apology.
I can see through their lies. Sony is moneyhatting because they are scared of Switch selling in Japan.
All this "oh yeah exclusives and Blu-Ray" PR. Accusing Nintendo of moneyhatting Monster Hunter. Accusing MS of moneyhatting everything but now you are the market leader you'll moneyhat all the COD DLC, JRPGs and marketing deals you can.
DARN HYPOCRITES!
@GravyThief And not in 3d as original as possible.
Been playing the Seiken Densetsu Collection for a while (luckily I speak/read Japanese) so I'm not too hurt about this, but I'm still hoping for a remake of FF6 or Chrono Trigger one day.
He said nothing about nothing. No more Square Enix for me (after Project Octopath Traveler of course).
I don't care about the ugly remake, I just want a localization of the Mana Collection for western release so to get the awesome third game. The Piece of [removed] 4 can keep that ugly 3D turd.
@RoomB31 "a port/remaster is not the same as a remake"
I know, but my way was funnier. I try to divide my time evenly between sarcasm, humour and education. And by evenly I mean 80% of the first and 10% each of the other two.
@Reignmaker "I'd buy more remakes for the Switch."
I think Switch will get more of those remakes - in due time. Squenix put a bunch of games on 3DS, once that goes away in a year or 2, those games will come to Switch. Some people - in general - seem to confuse the Switch's successful launch w/ world domination. It still only has a 5mil install base, which is small by any standard. A few years from now if/when it makes it to 30m, 40m, 50m, then it will get more games. Porting takes time, money, effort. Need a decent install base to make that worthwhile. I foresee good things for the Switch. Though I also thought Wii U would hit 50m so don't go by what I say.
"via Redbull.com"
I'm sorry, what?
Seems like a reasonable explanation. Plus they released the collection already anyway. You never know. They might port it later.
Yep. I’ll wait for a Switch port. As much as I love the original... er... well... I’m replaying the original on my Classic Edition! Lol! And I replayed it a few years ago on Wii Virtual Console. I played Adventures of Mana on PSTV last year... and now that the Switch exists, I’d love to see both remakes and a localized Seiken Densetsu Collection come to us. Thats where it belongs.
It could come to Switch eventually though, right? More platforms means more potential money, if the port for Switch isn't too costly. The game looks great so hopefully it can be enjoyed by many people.
I think Secret of Mana is overrated, but even I would like to see that Seiken Densetsu collection come west.
@Malcrash I wouldn't say Ubisoft have jumped on the Switch hype train. They made Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle which was a collaboration, Just Dance which is garbage, Rayman Legends which is a cheap port and Starlink which is a toys to life game that isn't out until well into next year. Did you watch their E3 Conference this year? It was brilliant, probably the best show, announced a tonne of games, the vast majority of which aren't coming to Switch.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE This is in part with what Ubisoft did for Nintendo in the past, despite some duds and the Just Dance pantheon. Even with the Wii U days, they indeed tried, even though people see it as lazy
@Malcrash Ubisoft were big supporters of Wii and Wii U. They're not on board so much so far with Switch. A lot of what they showed at E3 would be difficult to run on the Switch.
@rjejr lol They should be called SquarEmix.
I read that sort of as "We ain't doing it, but we hope to see our fans beg some more "
Just buy a SNES classic and play the original.
@Anti-Matter You're being way too paranoid. The reason they stated in the article is a sensible and plausible reason.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
"I wouldn't say Ubisoft have jumped on the Switch hype train. They made Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle which was a collaboration, Just Dance which is garbage, Rayman Legends which is a cheap port and Starlink which is a toys to life game that isn't out until well into next year. Did you watch their E3 Conference this year? It was brilliant, probably the best show, announced a tonne of games, the vast majority of which aren't coming to Switch."
Your Negative comments are the Most GARBAGE here !!
I've personally considered Secret of Mana quite overated, but still I admit I'm slightly curious about this port, like did they change how you handle magic in the game for example? The fact that choosing a magic spell from the list stopped the whole game in its tracks was one of my my biggest gripes about it, such a pacebreaker, and magic was just so useful you kinda had to use it too.
Bring out that Seiken Densetsu 3 though by all means, I've played some of it through emulation and even though I still didn't find it all that great, I found it a hell of a lot more interesting mechanics wise.
Both games do have the benefit of having an awesome soundtrack though so at least they got that going.
I just want Nintendo and SE to team up and make Super Mario RPG 2.
@Yorumi , FF14 or 15?
I've heard near universal praise for 14, but I haven't played it to know if there was a good story there. 15 was a disaster though. 15 has a very detailed story, but the director screwed the game up so much that the in game story became a complete mess (bad pacing, the entire back story was never explained, critical pieces in the story were cut out). After beating the game and watching the movie I still had to search around to make sense of it. Turns out they really did put a lot of effort into creating the story, it just got butchered in the game.
@Anti-Matter Nope. I deal in facts. And that's a rich statement coming from you who said this in the first comment.
"Sony bribed SquareEnix to not give any chance for Switch."
You're the one spouting garbage.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
No.
You are here that always spread out garbage comments !
Just give us the darn trilogy collection and we'll be fine with that.
Also Secret of Evermore remake when?
I'm not bothered about the remake. If they plan on using polygons, then I don't want to see a straight edge (erm...unless it's on a sword or something.) PLlllleeeeeaaaase localise the collection! (Then Chrono collection please.
If they are going to put out exclusives in the Mana-ish style like Octopath on Switch, then I'm super cool with them not releasing something like the trilogy (for now), in order to best support the launches of quality exclusives. Not that that's what he said
@SLIGEACH_EIRE I actually missed the joke in the email, no bold type, but it was pretty funny once I saw it here. I'd probably use it myself, but my short term memory is useless these days so I'll forget this ever happened in about 5 minutes. Maybe when "Kingdom Hearts Five Four Three Two.Eight One All Together Now 4K" comes out on PS5 it will come back to me.
I'd rather the whole Mana series up to this point get ported to the Switch. I haven't played any of them, and I'm told that Secret of Mana is up there in the "must play" category.
Game looks like a cheap mobile app anyway. :/ Such a shame, it could've been truly marvelous.
Huh? "Seiken Densetsu 3 – AKA: Secret of Mana 2"
3? 2?
O_o o_O
@Yorumi It's weird how Square and Enix were, individually fantastic, and once they merged it all fell apart. Yet there weren't massive management changes. It reminds me more of the "merger" between the PRR and NY Central Railroads. One bankrupt formerly great railroad merging with another bankrupt formerly great railroad, with two completely different corporate cultures and modes of operation that were 100% incompatible, and they two couldn't even agree what industry they were in (NYC said they were in the railroad business, PRR said they were in the transportation business...) with a management swap where the new management utterly loathed the other half of the company and their way of doing everything, while merging all operations immediately with no plan, and all levels everywhere in the company actively at war with the "other" half so it ate itself from inside.
S-E seems so similar a situation. Though in contrast to the other example, they're actually very successful....
At least they didn't say "becuz switch sux and is last gen consool wit n64 grafix"
It's a pity, it would ve amazing to see this on Switch, but well, Switch just started it's life, we can't expect to get everything already. But at least they could send us SoM Collection to the West! That would be a good way to say sorry lol
@Yorumi The nostalgia thing is a big one. Other than DQ11, and some of the western games they publish/dev through subsidiary like Deus Ex, what new stuff do they really put out that is hyped? FFXV sort of is, but most of the fan base is much more excited for FFVIIR than XV. And the graphics angle, I suppose I've seen both. They went western but they've also thrown a lot of weight behind smaller projects (moreso than most companies) like Bravely Default, Octopath, and such....so despite that they have one arm pushing graphics, they seem more balanced than a lot of companies in that regard.
Sure, they overspend on graphics (like all AAA's do) and that takes a cut from the narrative, but it's still striking that both companies used to be the kings of narrative. Yet they lost it on all sides post-merge.
Though, when I think of Square specifically, they started down that slope before the merge. Roughly in the PS2 era when they started with flashy cutscenes that made up huge chunks of the appeal. Maybe Square was sliding rapidly down that hole before they ever merged, and since they were the majority controllers, took Enix down the chute with them.
Even some of their smaller projects felt soulless. Setsuna, Bravely Default...to me they were checklist RPGs without a core. BD always seemed empty to me. Great characters, but the world was missing.
I do see a lot of encouraging signs from them recently, specifically in their thinking of Switch and some of the projects like Octopath that they might be getting back on track slowly. I'd give big credit to them for figuring out their mistakes and actually trying to fix them. Deep Down had to be rock bottom. Right now they're making games of different shapes and sizes and genres...it's just that half of them are remakes, reimaginings, and homages to their glory days. But at least they're making some OK stuff to sell.
I mean at least they're not Capcom.
@BinaryFragger What, you don't think the Greys were involved? The shadow people must have gotten to you with their dark matter weapons first!
Pretty much what I and a few others here thought back when it was first announced. Makes sense that this project started before SE even got their Switch dev. kits. Here's hoping we get a Switch version later.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
"It was brilliant, probably the best show, announced a tonne of games, the vast majority of which aren't coming to Switch....but I still refuse to buy any of the systems playing those games as I'd rather moan about it on here so I can get attention"
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Game looks inferior to the original, but I was hoping to pick up a Switch collector's edition anyway (for the figures). :/
@Anti-Matter Take it easy, will you? There's an ignore button if you don't want to read his comments.
@DairyOverdrive Port begging is a good way to gauge interest. You think they'd have taken Sony up on an offer of exclusivity if they thought they could make more money by going multi platform? And it's not even a guarantee Sony offered them cash.
Nintendo fans would rather believe the worst about Sony and Microsoft than accept that Nintendo just isn't what it used to be.
@Kalmaro They said: "the development was way ahead when teh Switch was announced". Blame it on Nintendo for not giving Square ENix (really Nintendo?) a big heads-up.
Also, if it were to come later on the Switch, then there will be a flock of fanboys arguing why there wasn't a release at the same time as other consoles. (this happens everywhere: I read some PS4 owners trashing Cuphead because it was not coming to the PS4 since it was a Xbox and PC exclusive).
@XenoShaun Yes, no conspiracy theories please.
Which is telling of Nintendo: why on earth you didn't give SE a proper heads-up regarding the Switch? Its baffling specially considering all the support from them in so many games for the 3DS.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE It is almost the same with every big developer. The only thing that hurst a bit is not having Beyond Good and Evil 2, but if you look at EA, they offered even less to the Switch audience (just 2 games, that are already out) and even Bethesda could have say something about Fallout 5, but I guess they want to test the waters with Skyrim and Doom.
There are economics at play and Ubisoft simply went for teh easy stuff to please Switch owners.
Fan requests, you say? Ok. I request this Collection. I request Seiken Densetsu 3. PLZKTHKSBI
@Yorumi LOL even going full EA is better than going full Capcom. At least EA sells a few games now and then and has actual relevant franchises (they're committed to sabotaging them, too, but they're not as expert at it as Capcom yet....) EA annually discards more franchises than Capcom has total.
Squeenix....there's life in them. They disappoint often...but it's also a huge battleship to try to turn around and the bloated mess games have been in the pipeline a decade. I'm not sure why SoM needs a remake....and this one....looks like it was made in the DQ 3DS engine.....which is amazing for what's primarily a PSXBox game. But overall, they have enough different projects at different scales that they feel like they KNOW what their problems have been. Capcom on the other hand is confident that they're doing everything right
Atlus is the Square we've missed. They've sure been cranking out classic after classic. It's almost hilarious that they're Sega now and are still getting it more right than Square. And Monolith...well they actually ARE most of Square from the good old days, so that's no surprise
I just want companies that use this excuse to be upfront about it. If we can't have nice things, don't wait to tell us. Just be honest and transparent about it to the fullest possible extent.
Eh, I'll play the waiting game. plays his original cartridge
i hate "We do not have any information that can be shared at this moment in time"
@SLIGEACH_EIRE "Nope. I deal in facts." Says the guy who will not let go of the dead system.
Sony rhymes with money.
That's not hyperbole, that's a fact.
So they hope to continue listening to their customers? Selective hearing? People been complaining for the compilation package since it was announced and that hasn't happened. This SOM remake is another story and fair enough, but no reason not to fire it off at a later date just like the FFA(SD1) GB game came on different platforms at different times. Yoda said it best, do or do not, there is no try. Do it.
Tough break. Sux. I guess that’s that. I’m excited for Octopath Traveler, I really am. But i’m hoping they have bigger games in store for Switch.
Completely understandable. It makes sense that titles wouldn't be considered for a platform they didn't know about at the time of development.
@Peace-Boy Here's a list for you just so you won't be confused:
Japan / Worldwide:
Seiken Densetsu = Final Fantasy Adventure (original), Sword of Mana (good remake), Adventures of Mana (garbage remake)
Seiken Densetsu 2 = Secret of Mana (the only game we got in North America for the Super NES)
Seiken Densetsu 3 = Secret of Mana 2 (unofficial name since Squaresoft never gave it a name outside Japan)
Seiken Densetsu 4 = Dawn of Mana (the only garbage sequel and only main Mana game not made by Squaresoft)
I lke the look of the game. I think it stays true to the original while still looking modern. If its good and they wont release it on the switch i will buy it on another platform. Still switch is perfect for it and im sure there will be a switch version.
@electrolite77 that Roflcopter doesnt look safe?
Still lame.
Clearly every game not coming to Switch is a moneyhatting conspiracy.......if you're a freaking nut job that is.....geez....
Just buy it on the awesome psvita!
@Anti-Matter you really think a company with an abundant game library would want to get fined to the moon and back for such ephemeral purposes?
Conspiracies, conspiracies everywhere. Can people at least choose between this AND claiming that Japanese market has little importance to PlayStation?
@gblock
Pokemon Soul Silver or Pokemon Crystal would be a great place to start.
Also, Golden Sun.
@adarker The "dead" system is still getting games released on it.
@eltomo
It's been drinking
@SLIGEACH_EIRE
"The "dead" system is still getting games released on it."
But the new games for Wii U are just Cheap Indie games and NO MORE AAA 1st / 3rd party games anymore.
Enjoy your Dead Wii U !
But it doesn't explain why it isn't coming to Switch, it just explains why development didn't start on Switch. If they said something like "we cant be bothered developing it for Switch", that would be explaining why it isn't coming.
Again Sony stealing games that originated on Nintendo! Lol ... Can Switch now exclusively get spyro/Croc?
Yeah, their loss. Nintendo should tell Square Enix that if they want to use the Switch to sell products, they have to show some loyalty first. No more of this console hopping BS
I would much rather get the trilogy on Switch like Japan got. Seiken Densetsu 3 would be an amazing game to have officially translated at long last. Personally, I'm not very impressed with this remake anyway.
Minor nitpick but calling Seiken Densetsu 3 "Secret of Mana 2" is blatantly wrong and while I realize the author is probably repeating that after hearing it called that by fans, it's still completely wrong. Seiken Densetsu 3 is just that, it's the 3rd game. The first being on GB and the second one being on SNES as Secret of Mana. Secret of Mana doesn't exist in Japan, it's simply what the English localizers chose to call to it. Seiken Densetsu 3 translated to something along the lines of "Legend of the Holy/Sacred/whatever" sword", so there's no reason to call it SoM2 on the grounds that SoM simply doesn't exist in Japan. The logic supposedly is that Square would have probably called SD3 "Secret of Mana 2" but the fact is we don't know that, and the fact they've never called ANY game SoM 2 says to me they wouldn't have.
Long story short, calling SD3 "Secret of Mana 2" was and still is stupid. Just call it what it is: Seiken Densetsu 3.
@BanjoPickles
I think it looks great and better than the original and I got the original back on its launch in 1993. Its using a better OST as well.
Action RPGs just look better and work better with polygons than sprites IMO. I'm not saying I hate sprite-based (I love them, take a que from Sonic Mania, Nintendo for a new 2D Mario) games either as I still want the collection to come to to Western shores.
It always saddens me that people will constantly take a low-blows at great remakes like this when the originals still exist. I want more remakes of 16/32-bit games like this and I'm glad they trickle out sometimes as rare treats, especially when its one of my top 5 (Gunstar Heroes, This, Rocket Knight, Star Fox, and Link's Awakening) games of 1993.
At least I can play this on Steam!
This is a mobile phone-tier game, why couldn't they simply port it? Even homebrew developers would be able to.
Not to mention Dragon Quest (several entries) and Final Fantasy (several entries) were ported to multiple devices that were released AFTER the initial development window, PS4 included.
Lazy excuse.
Switch is currently the best platform for JRPG's since it's the only device that allow us to continue playing such long games on the go & in HD.
When will those companies ever understand?
If they want our continued support, then they need to bring the games to more gamers than just Japan. I realize the Switch is region free or whatever but I’m not playing a RPG that I cannot understand the story or anything.
@retro_player_22 Thanks.
@gblock Lol, you used the correct keyword: "grind." In most of those 90s JRPGs, you'll be doing a whole lot of that. I remember spending about an hour or two every day for a month doing nothing but grinding in Phantasy Star 2 just so I could get within range to take on the penultimate boss, then doing the same thing so I could take on the final boss immediately afterward.
Well, I'll get it on PC then.
@rjejr Oh how I wish that were true. I'm still waiting for them to acknowledge that Threads of Fate/Dewprism exists...
In other words, they don't give a bloody... anyways. I hope they lose money on the game. Damnable Square Enix fools.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE So is the Atari 2600 and the Dreamcast.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE Thought you'd like to know I'm on my way over to my kids high school to drop off our Wii U and game for the SSB4 tournament tonight. Still cant' have a SSB tournament on Switch.
@rjejr Fair play to you. Not yet anyway, though I'm sure Nintendo will port over the Wii U version and add a couple of fighters.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE "will port over the Wii U version"
May 29th, 2018, announced in a ND this Dec. You read it here first.
@Spoony_Tech I hear ya. Port begging has been a huge frustration for me on Nintendo TV consoles. I never felt like port begging on 3ds, it seemed everything I ever wanted came to 3ds. it was or is perfectly running in terms of how the games came to us. In regards to Square Enix they have the strangest relationship with Nintendo. it seems any games that come west from them are produced by Nintendo if its a physical release. But lately if its Digital Square has been bringing its digital games themselves. I dont get it. its like Square dowsnt want to make money porting to the west. I have been mad at Square for a longtime. It just seems they are vwry afraid of bringing anything west for Nintendo. or just dont want to take the chance.
@Onion "Secret of Mana 2" is the closest thing we have to an official name right now, as it is what at the least Nintendo Power called it back in the day.
I know some magazines (such as EGM) would make up English titles for games for Japanese games that didn't have an official English title, but as NP was printed by Nintendo themselves (at least then) I would hold it at least a little more credible.
Yes, it's very possible that had it been released Square could've changed the name (as Secret of Mana had been tentatively called Final Fantasy Adventure 2 in early development previews).
@rjejr Well, Square Enix missed the change to remake Rad Racer on 3DS.
I would've like to try out the Famicom version to see if it was better than the cheap cardboard glasses used on the American version, but I missed my chance to get a pair of Famicom 3D Glasses for cheap.
I'd rather have this then a port of FF 15.
@Anti-Matter
His comments aren't any more annoying than ones like your first comment which has no proof to back it up.
Wooot!
Man, I have been spreading words about the game coming out to the Switch. We would've spend HOURS on the game already! I love the game!
@NintyNate
So what other games did Sony so called steal from nintendo hardware,
@koekiemonster
Yep that's what am buying it on, I own multiple devices, so no problem for me unlike the many cry babies on here
Similar to what Anti-Matter said, I just assumed Square-Enix had cut a deal with Sony. The only non-Sony system it's apparently coming out for is Microsoft Windows, which doesn't really compete with dedicated gaming systems. Then again, the Xbox game libraries are not known for having these types of games.
Despite being a multi-platform gamer, I'd only purchase this on Switch. Mana and Nintendo.. it'd just feel wrong otherwise.
Despite being a multi-platform gamer, I'd only purchase this on Switch. Mana and Nintendo.. it'd just feel wrong otherwise.
People know that Nintendo is too secretive. Not 100 percent sure but I don't think many dev kits were sent out until the end of last fall. I bet a lot of third party games will eventually get a switch release. By the end of next year, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a lot of multiplats release for all three systems on the same day.
pffft got Secret of Mana and Seiken Densetsu 3 on my hacked snes mini anyway
Best way to support Seiken Densetsu Collection coming to states may be sadly purchasing the remake of Secret of Mana. As much as it urks me to say we gotta show love for the series in hopefulness. The lack of support of Mega Man collections I think is why Capcom let Mega Man die same with Darkstalkers when a collection was released on PS3. These companies are watching numbers more than listening to and reading words. So I'll get Secret of Mana on PS4 may not play much of it though.
Square Enix why won't you take my money? Put Secret of Mana 2 remake on Switch and bring the secret of Mana collection in English. Specifically SD3. Don't you want my money? Just take it won't you? Ugh! I guess I have to just emulate the game for free.
perhaps they will continue 3DS support with SoM 1 & bring SoM 2 onto the Switch ???
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