Sega's been teasing its Sega Forever service for a while now, and has recently indulged in a satfisyingly old-school promotional campaign which includes mailing out cassette tapes with classic Sega tunes on.
Now, the company has finally lifted the lid on the service and as expected, it's exclusive to smartphones right now. Sonic the Hedgehog, Altered Beast, Phantasy Star II, Kid Chameleon, and Comix Zone are the first games available and will go live tomorrow, but Sega is promising new titles every two weeks, and says that the service will cover "Master System, Genesis/MegaDrive, Dreamcast, and more".
Accurately emulating consoles like the Dreamcast and Saturn isn't easy, but Sega Networks' chief marketing officer Mike Evans - speaking to Gamesindustry.biz - says that the company is committed to covering all eras:
Yes, it's more expensive... [and] obviously, the dev time and build progress is longer, but with the increasing CPMs forecast over the next 18 months, We will be able to support those titles as well.
Each Sega classic is free to download on Android and iOS and comes complete with cloud saves, online leaderboards and Bluetooth pad support - all totally free of charge. The catch is that you have to endure adverts, but you can choose to buy each title for £1.99 / $1.99 and play it ad-free, if you wish.
But can a service built almost entirely on nostalgia really have a long-term future? Evans thinks so:
Nostalgia is actually very much in vogue, which is one the reasons we've been chasing it down. Everything Nintendo has been doing has been driving big waves in nostalgia, they've done some amazing things and they had a lot of success with the classic NES. There is a film and documentary coming out about retro gaming called Console Wars. We also have a Sonic movie coming in 2019.
Nostalgia doesn't die away. For a lot of us, this is fundamentally part of our childhood, we've grown up with something that's really formative for us and I don't think that disappears. Things go in and out of trends, but that's been consistent for the last two decades.
The question now is could we see Sega expand this service to other systems, like home consoles? And what does this approach mean for Sega fans who own a Switch? After a flood of classic Master System and Mega Drive games on the Wii Virtual Console Sega took a step back during the Wii U era, choosing to put selected Game Gear, arcade and Mega Drive games on the 3DS only.
Now that the firm is effectively giving its history away using free-to-play tactics, will Sega dare to put these same games on the Switch Virtual Console (when it arrives) at a higher price? Evans is quick to point out that many of the games in this collection are being created using Unity, so porting should be fairly easy:
About 90% of the games so far are in Unity. The reason we chose Unity as middleware is it enables us to take this content to other platforms as well. So my first focus is mobile. It's a huge project and what I really want to do is get mobile right. After this, there are options: we can look at desktop, Facebook, we could even take these games to consoles like Switch.
Let us know your thoughts - and if you'll be supporting this service on mobile - by posting a comment below.
[source forever.sega.com, via gamesindustry.biz]
Of all the means to present your legacy to modern audiences, you chose mobile devices first??
As someone who simply doesn't play game son mobile, I was a bit disappointed with the news. I was hoping this would be on Switch from the start, but at least its good they are considering it. In fact, I am unsure if the Virtual Console service will ever be back in the traditional sense to the Switch.
I hope they put it on Switch. I tried to get Phantasy Star II, but it said my device wasn't compatible.
"After a flood of classic Master System and Mega Drive games on the Wii Virtual Console Sega took a step back during the Wii U era, choosing to put selected Game Gear, arcade and Mega Drive games on the 3DS only."
Actually, Sega did put some of (if not all of) the Sonic Advance games on the Wii U Virtual Console in Japan. Granted, those are GBA games, but still.
Wished this was on consoles instead of mobile. But hey, it's free... With ads.
Man , if this comes to Switch and there are Dreamcast games I am all over it . I loved the Dreamcast .. my favorite non Nintendo device.
Power Stone and Toy Commander please !
I rather they just give us Genesis Virtual Console offerings like they did on the Wii. I don't enjoy playing traditional games on mobile as the platform is just too clutter and annoying.
This is truly disappointing news and really I think kinda downgrades the value of their back catalogue by making it free to play (though there is an option to buy the games most won't). But I don't think we should expect these to come to the Switch. And with that, don't expect Nintendo's VC to include Sega consoles like the Wii days.
@Exy You realise how many smartphones there are in the world, right?
Gosh SEGA, The Megadrive Sonic games on a touchscreen ? You shouldn't have. This is so incredible. (no)
Some people compare this concept to the NES mini when this is clearly a Virtual Console. Each game is a separate app. Why (except for free 2 play BS) ?
The NES mini had a "buy all games or none" strategy. Which is way smarter when you have a large list of games that are not all well known. Who's gonna download/buy the hidden gems ?
With that in mind, there's always the risk that SEGA will see that they receive 5000x more money with Sonic 2 than with... let's say Beyond Oasis. The number of new games could then start to decrease, just like with VC.
TL;DR: It's cool, but it's no "netflix of SEGA"
Strange choice of platform, but if they're made on Unity a port, like ACA NeoGeo, could be really quick and easy for them and could act as another form of "Virtual Console", just not by Nintendo.
Strangely enough though, I can't find these on the UK App Store. Perhaps it's not out yet over here?
A bit disappointing as I'd rather be playing these on my TV (switch would be the best), but I guess Apple TV and Chromecast could maybe come in handy there? Either way, if they start releasing Dreamcast and Saturn games then I am 100% on board.
@buildz It rolls out tomorrow in the UK, apparently.
Once again I'm reminded that there will indeed be a Sonic movie. So weird to think about.
Anyway, I hope this comes to Switch. They just take all my money. No big deal.
@Damo Sure, mobile is the biggest platform, reach in every part of the globe, etc. I just don't think the necessarily compromised experience of playing these games, for the first time for a lot of these people, on mobile devices is worth it.
This game on Switch, please SEGA !
@Damo I think he knows but retro is pointed to nostalgia and a lot of these players hardly play on their phone or tablet, they do it on home and handheld consoles - even buy specific emulators for it.
For sure its a quick way to make a few dollars but even my 7yo enjoys playing more on a console than on a tablet even classics such as Ice Hockey for NES.
Anyways, on my end, I'm not even bothering to have a look. Bring it on as VC type like NeoGeo if you want then I'll look. But its just fact that playing on a tablet is worthless 98% of the time.
Sounds good to me! $2 a game is nothing, and controllers are cheap.
@SegaBlueSky I see. Nowhere had mentioned it, not even here! Thanks!
Dreamcast games on Switch? That's crazy!
Can anyone imagine how miserable the experience of playing those games on mobile should be? You can? Now add ADS.
I'm off to try this out, though I picked up a Genesis emulator at a flea market, so it may not be valuable to me just yet. It'll be better on Switch.
Localize Sakura Wars 1-4 please! This is the perfect time!
"Accurately emulating consoles like the Dreamcast and Saturn isn't easy"
Fully agreed on the Saturn, but the Dreamcast is easy as pie to emulate, especially on PC. Years ago, there was already the brilliant emulator Chankast, but that isn't actively supported anymore. Nowadays, NullDC is a better choice.
And although it's true that some games have some glitches or slow downs on average set ups, if you have a decent and modern PC that can play modern triple A games smoothly, then it will also run these emulators smoothly.
The Saturn remains difficult because of the crazy complicated hardware that the console had, but there are some emulators around that can run a few games, such as Yabause.
That is probably also the reason why they will offer these games as self-contained products/apps, instead of making one emulator that runs all games: to be able to maximize optimization for such games. Although for all the other systems, that should definitely not be a problem.
I agree with the complaints that it is sad to see these Sega classics being compromised to play on the lowest common denominator cell phone. We can only hope they play better than the recent Mega Man mobile disasters. Yet everyone needs to take a step back and realize that Sega is going to make a lot more money through these cell phone ports than any console they would release these on. They make money by ads or by the users purchase and it is a continual revenue stream for the near future. A very smart idea from Sega. Nintendo would be wise to follow suit if they were not in the console business and saving all of their retro games for the forthcoming online service.
@Exy Audience trumps practicality. Sega, and other game companies that port onto mobile, doesn't care that mobile phones are not ideal for playing games. They just care about the enormous audience that uses them. That's where the money is.
I would definitely love to play some Dreamcast games on my Switch!
I would kill to get this on Switch, but I don't want JUST sega games, my Dreamcast library was mainly fighters, I'd need Capcom and SNK to sign up to put things like Street Figher 3, Marvel VS Capcom 1 and 2, Capcom VS SNK 1 and 2 etc...
Get on switch now.
Mobile really isn't the bet place for this
That experiment is so not real.
Street Fighter III on Switch ?
I want SF III 3rd Strike, play as Chun Li as usual.
Haiyaaa... !!! Tensei Ranka ! (Super Art no III)
Yawn. I bet that in the end they will release the same games that are available in one hundred different ways across a bunch of systems already. Everything that is not damn obvious will continue to only be playable on the original systems or via illegal emulation or legal emulation (actual carts on retro systems such as Retron).
That was disappointing.
It's always possible that they could release it in a free-to-start structure instead... there's a couple of different ways they could do that...
1. One or two full games that are free, with the rest requiring payment to unlock.
2. All games available, but limited to act like a demo... either one level or a time limit... and having to pay to remove the limit.
This way they could still advertise the app as being free to download, but would still be able to make money from it.
I love Sega but these games would be better served on a traditional console not mobile.
@Damo @Exy I would also imagine they don't have to worry as much about cannibalizing sales there as much either. For example, even if you get these games on mobile, there's still a good chunk of people that would pay for them on Switch. If they rollout this service to Switch, it would cannibalize VC sales. Speculation of course, but it will be interesting to see how this service, as well as the Switch's VC pans out.
I have no problem playing old games on phones or tablets provided there are a good amount of options. I like scanlines and proper gamepad support(something that was broken for me with Sega's Steam offerings). My tablet and phones have nicer screens than the TVs around here. Plus, I have Android media boxes and single-board computers. So I have no problem with this in theory. I do hope for lots of options and broad compatibility. I do hope they roll it out to many platforms too.
I like that they're doing this, but I definitely would prefer another format other than mobile. If Sega were to bring it to the Switch I'd definitely be playing it, despite the commercials.
Hopefully they can work out the Saturn and Dreamcast support. I never had a chance to play any Saturn games, and I feel I missed out on quite a bit, but the Dreamcast has had some games I would love to play again. Anyone for a round of Ooga Booga?
@Exy umm..yes? what else would they choose? most people who liked these games in the past don't even own a console anymore.
Mobile? Well, never mind. Maybe next time.
i would buy a new SEGA console. Hello SEGA? Anyone home?
I was initially excited seeing this launch trailer, and then I remembered about all those Genesis games that I bought from the iOS App Store years ago.
Yeah, I'm done with trying to play these games on mobile. If it's on Android then I can probably get them running on my GPD XD, but then again, I have most of those systems emulated perfectly.
Do let me know when Dreamcast and Saturn (or this collection coming to the Switch) becomes a thing though!
uuuh, no thanks.
Anything to carry more Sega games without having to tote multiple portable consoles is fine with me. I just hope we get some arcade releases.
Grandia 2 and Skies of Arcadia on Switch please!
Tried Phantasy Star since I've never played it before. Worked fine. Not going to continue before I can get it on Switch though. I've recently played couple of mobile games but it's certainly not my preferred way of gaming.
I'm rather hoping this is available via my Shield TV. Playing them with an actual controller would be nice. I'm not holding my breath for the Switch port, though, since Nintendo seems to be in no hurry to introduce a Virtual Console via which these Sega classics might be made available.
Cool idea but I hate playing games on a phone so hopefully it does come to Switch at some point. It'd be stupid for it not to.
One step closer to FINALLY being able to play OutRun on a Nintendo console?!?!?
I'd much rather have it on Switch, of course. Ironic how the console gets bashed for "extra expenses" of subjective necessity while on the other side people don't seem to mind buying a costly gamepad to play games like Sonic and Comix Zone properly (Phantasy Star 2 is a JRPG so it should be at least playable without one). Or maybe I just qualify as an old geezer here and modern kids have already mastered touch screen controls on progressively buttonless devices?
I'm happy with this announcement. Would love it to move Switchward too.
I dont know how people play these games on mobile. The only game I have actually been able to play somewhat well (aside match three puzzle games) is Super Mario Run which was specifically designed for mobile use.
It confuses me from a gamer pov. But business pov this is the best platform to roll it out on for those ad revenues.
Bring it to the switch as Skies of Arcadia would be loved truly by me
Saturn and Dreamcast on switch?! Yes please! Not that Sega will release my favourite games - shining force 3 and Panzer dragoon saga
It may come to Switch sooner than other platforms due to Switch using the same ARM architecture also used in mobile devices.
For those who want this on Switch I suggest going to there facebook or twitter and posting you want it, best damn way to get something is to show them the legions who'd support it.
Yes and no, many games on DC emulators didn't have proper stereo, missing sound effects and other graphical glitches. If DC was "easy to emulate" then there would be better easier-to-use emulators.
So the initial launch is mostly just Megadrive, but they'll be aiming to do Sega Saturn and Dreamcast as well.
They did mention there'll be controller support, but this is mostly just dressing up what they've always done, re-release their classics ad-nauseam.
I dunno how this can really compete with Android emulators though.
Well since Nintendo themselves doesn't seem to be in any hurry to bring the classic games on the Switch I definitely wouldn't mind Sega doing their own stuff at least. There are a bunch of Sega games that I would like to have on the go.
Portable Phantasy Stars and Dreamcast games please.
@mikegamer True, it takes some fidgeting with settings, but especially in the case of the Dreamcast emu's, there are a lot of forums filled with tutorials and lists of settings per game so you can get the most out of it.
Even so, emulators on PC are almost never "easy", but they're also not that daunting that you would need a degree in math to be able to use them, but perhaps they should come with a disclaimer stating "some fidgeting required for better playback"...
Much has been improved though, mainly by independent coders/fans of the emu's making mods to add to the original emulators, so perhaps you should give them a try to see how far they've come, in case you haven't yet.
And on current consoles, Dreamcast should be relatively easy to port as well, since the games are all developed in a Windows CE environment, so porting to x86 systems should be a breeze. And if they can port them to Android, then consoles should be even easier.
So putting it next to the Saturn in relation to "hard to emulate" couldn't really be any further from the truth. Now THAT's a system that is still giving people headaches up to this very day, both in conversion and in emulation.
If the Dreamcast was that hard, then there wouldn't be all those ports on last gen consoles, such as the Sega Dreamcast compilation disc, which ran perfectly, and some games were direct ports.
I agree that a touch screen on a smart device isn't the ideal way to experience these past gems. A traditional controller will serve them better. I hope Sega games come to Switch VC.
Altered Beast, Golden Axe, Sonic, Shinobi, After Burner, HangOn, Daytona USA, Virtua Fighter
man that be sweet on the Switch
Just played sonic the hedgehog on my S7. Got through the first level, but game overed on level 2. Impossible controls. Hope it comes to Switch though.
They're up on the Google play store now. There is no browser app, they're individual titles. Phantasy Star II and Comix Zone for me so far! Phone connected to TV and a Bluetooth controller - Ace.
PLEASE COME TO SWITCH PLEASE SEGA!!!!!
Well i already have most emulators on my phone, any game I want with no ads and free. I can also hook it up to my Bluetooth 360 pad, so no touchscreen controls. I also play many Ninty games on my Vita thanks to the Henkaku hack, good times for me
OMG Shenmue I and II is coming to mobile and Switch!!
I always wanted to try Comix Zone. Now I can try it for free. Then buy it on either PSN or Wii, if I like it.
I think it honestly needs to come to pretty every modern gaming-capable system, including VR.
I like the idea, though I would never play them on mobile. If it comes to Switch og any other home console, I would proberly buy it.
@BustedUpBiker I never said they were a browser app...?
@buildz Just trying to be informative. My search for Sega Forever led me to the Sega catalogue, and all the games are up individually. Compared to the Sega Classics model on Steam, where all the games are conveniently centralised, it could get a bit messy in the end.
I just wanted to let you know that they're available now, as they weren't when you posted originally.
@bluedogrulez An arcade perfect port of Outrun has been on the 3DS eshop since 2015.
how do you play dreamcast games without buttons?
Sega should come with their own system! Even though I know it won't happen a Dreamcast 2 but would've loved it. In JP arcade games are still a thing. Would love to get a home arcade version that way. Emulating Dreamcast is a ljnkugvbk j,yk hbjn m yes. Switch doesn't have that power to emulate it fully that's for sure. Only a few games like capcom vs snk since it doesn't need that much power
Downloadable on Switch.
I'd buy in day one
I really hope sega does this. I would really love to be able to play streets of rage. Golden axe and all sonic games on the switch this includes adventure 1 and 2.
Man, I just want a working Saturn Emulator. Is it really too hard to ask? I know it has a complicated architecture, but it should be possible in this day and age to make it work.
Come on! Shenmue 1&2 i will buy that again. That game whas a legendary gem of its own.
I dont play games on my phone. But I would buy them on Swich
These are absolutely garbage "ports" btw. Emulate SEGA stuff on PC and do yourself a favour.
Really? Sega can't figure out from the Neo Geo Switch sales that its catalogue would also sell well?
BS. They simply see more profits in the cell business first and once that's established, they'll look at the Switch.
Getting Saturn and Dreamcast running would be an absolute must!
As a retro player, to get the games from those consoles is an expensive hobby and hardly any of them are available on another platform!
Do it Sega!!
This is pretty amazing. Legacy Sega content for free with ads or $2 without!
I hope this comes to the Switch. Saturn and Dreamcast games for such a low price would be amazing.
For now I guess I'll get a decent Bluetooth controller, and play em on my phone and tablet. Good enough for me.
Download happy chick in Google, it has many emulators for it including dreamcast, the games are already on it and most of them are very playable. Also on the app are psp, Neo Geo, snes, ps1, GBA, N64, megadrive, Mastersystem and many others, you can use your 360 and ps3 controller with all games and yes i have shenmue on the go
Mobile, probably not.
Now if I can get Sonic Adventure 2 on my Switch, you better believe I'll snap that up.
I have always bought at least Sonic 1 and Golden axe 1 anywhere they have been released, on Wii I also bought more games like Altered beast and Ristar. I would really love to buy Sonic 1 and Golden axe 1 (expecially if it's the arcade version, the best looking one and easier than console version too!!)
I would buy them on my Switch I mean, I won't download any game on my smarthpone, not even for free, by any means. Playing games using touch screen buttons is the worst deal breaker ever for me.
I am pretty likely to support this on my iPhone (though I don't like screen touch controls all that much)....
.....but if it comes to Switch? With the form factor and the controls? Then we switch [no pun intended] from "I will probably support" to "I will DEFINITELY support"!
You hear that, Sega? If you come to a Switch then you've got a guaranteed user in yours truly!
I love old Sega! I mean, big picture, I'm a "Nintendo first gamer." But in certain pockets of gaming history, Sega's top dog for me! There are only a few gaming eras where Nintendo was NOT my favorite player. One of them was the 5th gen, where I prefer PS1 over N64 (the only time I favor a Sony system over its Nintendo rival).......and one of them is 4th gen, where I passionately prefer Sega Genesis/Mega Drive over the Super NES. Additionally, Sega was my favorite company in the mid-late 80's arcade.
Otherwise, Nintendo wins or ties for the win in every other era of home gaming, but 4th gen gaming and mid-late 80's arcade are easily the two most important epochs of gaming for me, so they were HEEEEEUUUUGE things for Sega to win!!!
In any case, I know that my preferring Genesis over SNES is not likely to be a very popular sentiment here, but knowing that this service will be big on Genesis and 80s arcade stuff makes me VERY EAGER to get involved! Also, I do really love the Mastersystem, Saturn and Dreamcast, which only serve to further enrich and make tantalizing this new service!
It's gonna be AWESOME! And if it comes to Switch?.....
@Randomname19 Yes, only adding to my bitterness that it has not appeared on a Nintendo CONSOLE either via Virtual Console or arcade collection.
Considering the prices would be about 10x that much on the Switch, I'm not sure that I really care. Might be easier and certainly cheaper to just use one of my Dualshock 4's + my Shield tablet.
If you have a 8bitdo controller, connect it, prop your phone or tablet up on a stand and away you go.
If this is the way SEGA will get around to releasing all of their Saturn classics then it's a small price to pay watching more ads.
If Dreamcast games come to the Switch I will always play games all the time forever. And by games I mean Seaman.
Please send these games to Switch. Neo Geo already did theirs so you shouldn't have to wait for Nintendo's VC. Thank you.
Downloading Sonic 1 right now.
Love that ad. (And that tape mentioned in the article!) But, going to need a proper Sega controller to really do the nostalgia right.
Yes it was. It was one of those games I bought and was thinking it would be terrible .. Man was I wrong . Totally enthralled with it and sunk so many hours into it .
Genesis was my first console, but since the N64, I've had every Nintendo console ever since, so never played any SEGA Saturn or Dreamcast games, would love to have a go at them on the Switch. I think they should go at it like the Hamster Neo Geo games rather than wait for the VC. I won't bother with them on smart devices.
Man I would be all over those .. Lol.
Shenmue on the go ! Would be epic
I love how many people here think it's a bad idea to spread one of the greatest lines of gaming history onto the most popular portable computer platform in the world (that can actually support Bluetooth controllers), yet somehow, it's a perfectly fine idea to tether essential online functions of a portable console with plenty of tech onto a separate device.
These are "free" games with tons of unskipable video ADs (one or two before each screen) and you're not allowed to play offline.
To remove such annoyances, it costs $3 per game.
Imagine being able to play Super Mario Odyssey and its inspiration (Sonic Adventure) on the same console!
sega should just release a micro console
Please be on Switch, pleaseeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
Well, it was pretty obvious that this was going to be for smartphones, so no real surprise there. Obviously I won't bother with playing them on my phone. One piece of good news is that the price point is right at least! I'm not even thinking about playing with ads, but 2$ a pop sounds reasonable.
What's very disappointing is they're starting out with such a weak lineup. We've seen these games again and again and again and again...
I'd probably use this if it came to a console. Put it on the 3DS (though Saturn and DC aren't going to run on that system) or the Switch (if I ever buy one) and I might actually use it. Or just any other console or a PC for that matter. I'd definitely use it if they get around to releasing quality Saturn emulation.
The most important thing for them to do is keep adding games at a steady. New games every 2 weeks sounds good, as long as they keep that promise.
Another important factor is the split between regions. Will everyone get the same version? Will you be able to play import titles?, etc. If they're going to roll out Sonic at 50Hz again you can expect people to grab their emulators instead.
One comment has totally thrown me off though: they're talking about using Unity, which I don't quite follow. Specifically this part: "About 90% of the games so far are in Unity". Does that mean we're not talking about emulation here? Is the implication that these are from-scratch re-implementations of the games in Unity? That sounds completely ridiculous, especially considering they have the ambition to release DC and Saturn games. Or is he merely implying that the emulators use a front-end created with Unity? That seems the most logical answer, but that would be a really weird way of saying it. I don't quite know what to make of that comment tbh.
@rushiosan The ones I've downloaded can be played offline. You only need 1.99 to unlock the games to remove adds and allow offline save files however if you don't want to pay there is a skipable video ad before you play the game or a banner ad when you are in the main pause / setting menu. It also requires you to watch an ad before using cloud save. Its not very intrusive at all.
Sadly, you will never see any Saturn games except, MAYBE, Nights! Sega, in their infinite wisdom, lost the source code for most of their Saturn titles, and they're not going to go to great lengths to release a game that was never popular in the first place (I think that they only printed about 50,000 copies of the game!). I would love for them to dig deep, but I know exactly what's going to happen. They'll release a flood of Sega Genesis/Master System titles, totally ignore the 32X, MAYBE release Sonic CD for the billionth time,, MAYBE release Nights, and Sonic Adventure. Don't get your hopes up for Dreamcast, since they completely missed a golden opportunity to ride the Shenmue III hype with an HD rerelease. I love Sega, but they do really stupid things, which is why they're out of the hardware business.
SEGA Forever on Switch sounds like a dream waiting to be a reality. Think of the possibilities!!!
Golden Axe. Then we'll talk, Sega.
So... For free? Really? Huh.
@NerdNoiseRadio Genesis > SNES always.
@PlywoodStick that's a fabulous straw man, but from what I gather, people around here are not thrilled about the mobile implementation on Switch.
(Also: kudos for lumping everyone here into the group that is incredulous that these are on mobile first--truly first-rate logic at work.)
What an utter and epic fail! Mobile with adverts. This is the new Sega .No kidding huh. Make it available with no ads obviously and on all modern systems with a one off yearly subscription.
Yes I know. It's very sad. When Sega started releasing HD remakes of Saturn and Dreamcast games on the last gen of consoles I got excited. Then they release some really odd choices... None of my faves then stop. So disappointed then!
Reality is, even though SF3 and PD saga are two of the best games of all time, very few people know about them so a re-release would never sell.
Shenmue at least has the reputation, and Sega still missed that...
So the new Sega revolves around mobile...of course!
@buildzThe article clearly says it comes out 'Tomorrow' which is now today.
Bad emulation. Just compared Comix Zone to the Genesis version. Hoping for Switch versions that are better
I have Sonic 1 on iOS and it updated to the SEGA Forever version and now displays ads and won't let me restore my purchase that I made several years ago. Annoyed.
This is like free demos! You can play them for free with ads, and if you really like them you can always go to the Wii Shop Channel and buy a perfect emulated version with great controls, extra features and multiplayer for 5 or 8 bucks (Master System or Mega Drive) - or you can waste 2 bucks on these new crippled mobile versions.
@ECMIM Just look at all the likes those comments got. And I didn't say everyone, just many. Plus, I've seen enough comments saying the mobile implementation is fine, combined with even going as far as to tell critics it's their problem if they would not use a smart phone. You have seen those comments, right? They're nothing new, they've been rolling around for months. It all sounds like a strawman, sure, normally I would have thought so too. But there is definitely some selective acceptance here of the involvement of mobile platforms on gaming. If you ask me, having seen how against mobile integration NL users were in previous generations, I would say it's the result of cognitive dissonance. (I was lurking back in 2010.)
Remember though, they still have to be free by default, via ad support or whatever, with the option to pay a very small free to remove the ads--that's what makes the current model so appealing. Otherwise it's kinda pointless imo; unless you just sell them outright without the ads for a couple of dollars a pop, basically like cheap and cheerful Virtual Console games.
Gotta echo the sentiment about wishing there were on consoles. And bless the souls that actually can and like playing these specific games on mobile devices. Obviously, they're out there.
@impurekind Makes me wonder why all those Genesis/Mega Drive games costed $8 or more on VC... Licensing fees?
Wii VC ok, i downloaded a lot. Mobile, no please, nooo. I hope Switch versions soon.
Playing any kind of game that requires any kind of quick reaction or responsive controls is going to be poop on a touchscreen anyways. While emulation has been around for a long time on mobile, many retro games just don't lend well to the experience without having tactile buttons and very few people want to haul a controller or controller shell for their smart phone around with them.
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