It's one of the oldest rumours around upcoming Nintendo Switch games, and now it seems some art is doing the rounds. We're referring to a game reportedly called Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle, a title that to we're led to believe is real and set for this year.
The following fuzzy image was initially doing the rounds. For those that aren't fans of the Rabbids it's pretty much everything that's been feared.
Now a full piece of artwork has been posted by Laura Kate Dale, who has been among those highlighting the project in recent months. Liam Robertson has also been pitching in with WWG.
It's been doing the rounds for a little while, it seems, but this appears to be the first time it's been posted in full online. Whether it's accurate and representative of an actual game remains in rumour status until confirmation is given by Ubisoft or Nintendo, of course. It'll certainly be one to watch for during E3, if not before.
This writer's off to a dark room for a lie down. What do you think of this concept, and do you believe it's real?
Update:
Nintendo World Report has published a series of images that reputedly outline the core concept and structure of the game; they appear to be publicity briefing materials. There is some scruffy writing in the documents, and they're filed as rumours here for the same reasoning that was outlined above. Nevertheless, if indeed accurate, they provide some background on what this game may have to offer.
[source twitter.com, via nintendoworldreport.com]
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Reminds me of Roger from American Dad in one of his cross dressing costumes.
Pleasedontberealpleasedontberealpleasedontberealpleasedontberealpleasedontberealpleasedontberealpleasedontbereal
LKD is a fraud and was thoroughly debunked after the Switch event in January. Super Metal Dave, Emily Rogers, and LKD are all fakes.
No need to refer to it as a rumor anymore. It's very much real.
This mario is too ugly to be true
@IceClimbers It's a rumour until Ubisoft and Nintendo say otherwise, even if 'very likely' is perhaps an accurate summary.
http://comicbook.com/gaming/2017/05/23/mario-rabbids-kingdom-battle-confirmed-key-art/
I'm not going to judge a book by it's cover, although tbh I don't think it is that bad. The game might be good.
Let's give it a chance before the internet burns Nintendo HQ down!
Don't know how to react to this...
"The Horror"
Accurate
'rumour'
@LeRaposa keep telling yourself that
@Dakt Now that is what would be disappointing. No matter how good this game is, if we get this and have to watch PS4 get BG&E2, then it would be gutting.
Ohhh look. The internets Number Nintendo rumour spreading darling is back and Nintendolife jump on it. LKD is fraud.
Seems to much fun & crazy!!
Looks fake!
@IceClimbers I'm not saying there aren't people saying it's real, it very likely is and I wouldn't be surprised if it pops up at E3 (or before). BUT, not 100% confirmed until it actually is
@Moms-Meowth I love how people keep saying this when the full image was provided by Ubisoft
It's real
Internet meltdown in 3...2...1....
Hey, it's Mario so I'm game. Judging by the picture alone, it doesn't exactly look like something I'd cough $60 for, though.
Would need to know more about it before deciding one way or the other but as far as I'm concerned any switch game with Mario in the title can only be a good thing
I'd love it if it combined the gibberish voices from M&L: Partners in Time with the silly rabbid screams. Day one for me if it does
@ThomasBW84 Fair enough! Only a couple more weeks until E3 anyways.
Yeeaa, I don't know.
What kind of game is it rumoured to be? 3rd person shooter, rivaling Splatoon?
Don't care if it's real, rabbids ain't for me
@IceClimbers Indeed! Should be fun
@gaga64 How can it possibly matter to you whether or not it's real? Enjoy whatever you wish and let people who find this intriguing enjoy that something they might like is being developed.
I find it curious that this could exist, when the whole reason Rabbids became its own spinoff from Rayman, is because Ubisoft couldn't find a decent way to integrate Rabbids with their own Rayman in the first place....
I'll be honest.. it does look interesting. Although I'm still not sure how I feel about Mario crossing over with Rabbids.
Looks so awesome. Yoshi with a lazer gun?!
Okay ... show me gameplay at E3 and then I'll tell what I think. Because right now ... those fermin rabbids are a real deal breaker.
People need to calm the f down. And I didn't really take to the overly negative bias in the article.
If people don't want to own this thus far hypothetical video game, vote with your wallet
@LeRaposa
Boohooo, someone knows stuff that you don't so you claim they are "debunked"
Other than that.
THIS LOOKS AWESOME!
MARIO HAS A BULLET BILL SHARK RAY GUN!
YES!
.....Whaaaaat am I looking at?
Looks fun to me. I'd buy it.
So being a Ubisoft game, does it involve climbing towers?
What's with Mario's proportions?
On the plus side...LKD also rumoured a Dark Souls Trilogy...can we have some artwork from that please? Thanks
I dont understand...
@ottospooky I'd be fine with the negative bias in the article if Nintendo Life just admitted it's a fan site and stopped pretending they're journalists.
Just kidding, looking forward to this!
Looks pretty cool, actually. Looking forward to learning more about this game!
I didn't think it was true.. This is such a weird collaboration.
To my surprise I have to admit I like the artwork, can't dislike that bullet-bill gun and vacuum gun - nice attention to detail. Hopefully it'll turn out to be good.. I'm pretty skeptical though.
I'll buy it; odds are it will more than likely be fun and well done. Not siding with the whiners on this one.
Looks alot more interesting now that I can visualize what it's about.
SRPG is an especially intriguing genre too.
This could be great.
If true, this leaves more questions than answers. Is this marketing in 2017?
Eh. The Rabbids are a bit weird, but this looks like it could be fun.
If this is real!!! My boys this so hype
I guess I'm in the minority but I hope this is true. Sounds really interesting. The Rabbids presence doesn't mean it has to be bad, Rabbids Go Home was excellent.
needs toad, daisy, wario
Kind of hoping gameplay-wise we're talking "like Mario and Luigi, but good and not controller tossing infuriating"
@AlternateButtons Looks "alright" but we still don't want it.
eh may be good. I don't know. I'll wait to se if is true and how it plays
Can't say I'm looking forward to this game at all, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
No one cares for rabbids, I don't know WHY they keep pushing this crap. Meanwhile, I sent my Switch to Nintendo to get my right speaker fixed, It was blown. I don't know HOW they didn't put strong enough speakers in it, if ANYTHING Mario Kart 8 blew it...
If only the rabbits wasn't there...
I really, really like this artwork but... AH! I don't know what to think anymore!
Wow. It looks as dumb as I thought it would. Let us see some gameplay first however.
That time of year again. Time for the Liam's, Laura's, and Emily's of the world to try to make a splash and get more followers before E3. Even if it is real, I'd rather hear about it at E3 rather than now, or 6 months ago.
This game would have been on my buy list....if it had Daisy and a Daisy Rabbid.
If that image is real, this is a nightmare come true. Seriously, who would have thought dressing up a Rabbid as Princess Peach was a good idea?
Edit: Just saw the second more clear image and it actually doesn't look half bad! My hopes have been reestablished!
Gah!
Please, Nintendo, kill it right now, throw the development materials into the nearest sarlacc pit, and we'll pretend this never happened.
@Som64 Yeah, the Rabbid things are what ruin this for me. They're like deformed minions. Disgusting little critters that automatically prejudice me against a game.
Love it! Hope the game stays true to the artwork, that'll give all the video game conservatives something to mourn.
Yoshi with a laser gun. Good game, well played.
@gaga64 Too late.
I really, really wish the rabbids weren't there. Mario RPG with exploration and lasers?
Great!
Deformed rabbit... things... cosplaying as famous Nintendo characters?
Egh.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b2/Shadow_the_Hedgehog_Coverart.png/250px-Shadow_the_Hedgehog_Coverart.png
THE SPECTRE HAUNTS US STILL
Oh crap, I didn't even notice the Yoshi and Mario Rabbids flying lol. I'm excited to shoot sh** with Yoshi!
im hoping its not an rpg and just a full shooter
would love it to be plants vs zombies like shooter garden warfare style
That Peach Rabid has to be the result of a drunken liaison between Peach and Waluigi
Looks like it might be fun. I wouldn't slam it just yet, lets see if its real and if theres gameplay. It might very well be a fresh game. The negative bias by the writer isn't very journalist like. Needs a dose of that Alex positivity. May just be a lovely game.
Everyone needs to calm their horses. To each their own, but in all honesty, I'm going to look at this with only optimism. If details are to be believed, this is an RPG. A MARIO RPG. Ubisoft actually has a pretty decent track record with the genre. Child of Light and Stick of Truth were both amazing. I feel confident Nintendo wouldn't let this happen at all if it was a sub-quality outing for their plumber (I know what we all think of Stick Star, but that's besides the point). We haven't seen ANY gameplay. This could be freaking awesome! I'm no Rabbids defender, but as a huge Mario fan, I'm going to go in with an open and positive mind!
I didn't even know Rabbids were still a thing... I don't even like crossovers when they happen within the Nintendo universe (except for Smash, which should be the only one), so this makes very little sense. Plus, the franchises aren't exactly on the same level. It's like; one of you is really punching above your weight here (and one of you is kind of lowering yourself). Maybe Ubisoft has got some really bad information on Nintendo or something...
I wonder if this is one of those games Ubisoft claimed to have finished for the Wii U but they decided not to release it.
More info on game and images including box art here: http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/44682/new-details-about-mario--rabbids-kingom-battle-confirmed-for-switch
Some of you guys are waaaaaay too dramatic lol. Not every game in the universe has to appeal to you, just let others enjoy it. Looking forward to more info. Maybe something fun to play with my kids
Well....that looks awkwardly ugly.
pretty cool to see nintendo has a good relationship with ubisoft. now how about the south park game?
Her hair is blue and she's proud to be associated with kotaku. Not trusting anything she says.
It's an RPG in which Mario levels down.
The game has now been confirmed by Ubisoft. Out in September of this year.
Cool and fun !!! Day 1 !!!
heads up:
– Out this summer
– RPG that mixes exploration and turn-based combat
– The exploration is estimated at 35% of the game
– Combat makes up 65%
– Each of the four worlds are “twisted” Mario worlds filled with references
– Combat is weapon-based
– Mario and company can use guns for the first time
– 8 different characters can be used: Mario, Luigi, Peach, Yoshi, and Rabbids dressed up as each of them
– Combat is described as more tactical
– More akin to a strategy RPG than what you might expect from a Mario RPG
– Can be played in co-op for two players as well
– Ubisoft appears to be publishing
– Estimated to be 20 hours long
– Again, runs on Ubisoft’s Snowdrop engine
– Ubisoft Paris and Milan developing
– The goal of Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle was to be a surprise announcement at E3 that came out shortly after the announcement
– Still due out in August or September
Between this and South Park Ubisoft is going to make me laugh a lot later this year!
@ThomasBW84 it could be worse, the gamen could be confirmed to be a collection of terrible mini games with micro transactions galore.
So ... this is a thing.
😕
@SLIGEACH_EIRE oh boy, u nail it!
I know, I know.... The sheer lunacy of the concept is enough to immediately pull off a face palm.
But in this instance, I actually think the lunacy could turn out to be to the game's advantage. This is Nintendo - nothing should be taken overly seriously. If we can accept that an Italian-American plumber from Brooklyn runs around eating mushrooms and stomping on turtleswhilst riding a dinosaur, I think a few deformed rabbits are acceptable...
So weird! I love all the Mario RPGs but have no interest in obnoxious Rabbids. Glad Nintendo has been more open to 3rd parties using their IP, but Rabbids is nowhere on the level of Mario. They need to use better discretion. Will not be picking this up.
Rabbids are fun. French humor is pretty good and very European. I don't get the whole "I am upset" thing.
first ingame shot:
Nice SNES "Super Mario RPG" vibe going on there.
I'm very optimistic about this, if it is a game. Don't know what the complaining is about. There will still be other great core Mario games...
I still don't like the Rabbids with Mario, but this artwork and information does look interesting. It looks very real to me and I am one of the few who didn't think it was real before. I guess we'll find out more at E3!
Ok, "maybe" will be a good game, but, the rabbids, well, next time...
Otherwise, in the artwork, Peach looks great with that pose, XD
WELL
It's not like we weren't warned. And I'm not entirely unhappy about seeing the Rabbids again.
The big surprise leaked out! Nintendo's E3 is ruined now
It may well be great.
I don't think Nintendo is just going to hand over their most valuable ip and not quality check the hell out of it.
Being honest, I would have preferred to have had other Mario characters (Wario, Daisy, Waluigi, etc) other than the Rabbids and cast them as villains instead.
However, its too early to judge. I'm waiting for E3 to see more of this. Nobody can deny that this looks interesting. Maybe this could be good, it has some potential.
@TruthfulVoice Through one game? Surely not. We'd known about this for ages before now. E3 will be full of surprises.
It actually looks pretty charming to be honest.
Do you think God stays in Heaven because he fears what he has created?
People see artwork and speculate 'maybe it'll be a good game'
Well from the promotional art and accompanying press release - seems like a 6 out of 10 to me. Be sure to read my hypothetical review policy.
@Decapre And neither do I.
@Cosats Agreed, plus Nintendo won't just let them use Nintendo characters and not know what they are going to do with them in a bad way.
bout time time to grab 100 copies for other 99 people bashing on this. im one few to love rabbids i wish this mario meets minions from despicable me those guns suit them class characters better.
i always wondered if rabbids game would ever cross with mario franchise here it is dont fail us now bring on out the tupperware it cant be shovelware if i buy other 99 hates copies they refuse to buy. yes im sarcastically trolling
@PanurgeJr true enough, no-one is forcing me to buy/play it, and someone else may well enjoy it. The concept just bugs me. Mario with a Samus/Mega Man style laser arm? Doesn't feel like something Nintendo would let their mascot do. Between this and the most recent Mario Sports games, it feels like they're not as concerned with their image / quality control as they once were.
@SanderEvers ill buy your copy to keep amazing games like this being made lol
At this point it's not a question of "if" but a question of "why?!"
It looks pretty cool in my opinion, I don't get all the negativity.
@gaga64 image if this could lead to gta mario game youll thank me later and them praise minor advancements like this no matter how bad it seems hence why im buying 100 copies for fact we may finally get gta mario one day
Well then, this game better be good
Now eagerly awaiting that Zelda/Bubsy crossover.
Why does it have to be rabbids? They're almost as bad as the minions. Oh well, I'm willing to look past it as long as the game is fun.
Looks weird, looks... fun! It'll be something different anyway, and sure what's wrong with that?
mario with guns folks the future of finally getting gta mario could happen support this game like no morrow no matter how bad game may be reviewed. if we fail to buy this as consumers we will get sjws censroed marios from here out
@Shiryu Sounds interesting!
@PanurgeJr
"I'd be fine with the negative bias in the article if Nintendo Life just admitted it's a fan site and stopped pretending they're journalists."
You understand that he was just joking at the end, right? Other than that I didn't see any negative bias against this game in the article, also the definition of journalism is reporting the news and publishing it to a wide audience. If anything it could be both a fansite and a news site, since it appeals to Nintendo fans and those who just want to see what's new with Nintendo.
It's always nice for the Switch to get new games, but I'm rather unsure about this. The Rabbids in general just annoy me
For some reason now im more optimistic about this game.
LOVE the art style, this could be a really fun game, I will keep an open mind until I see gameplay. I don't base opinions off a screenshot.
This looks sincerely interestingly and cool (even if also very wrong somehow XD).
However the latest Rabbids games were... not really great let's say (and none ever been truly outstanding to be honest) so I'm not really sure how high I can realistically keep my hopes ^_^;;;
Rabbids? Garbage. Do not care.
However...
Ubisoft partnering with Nintendo? Highly intrigued because that indicates key 3rd party support....
This looks deliriously awful in the best possible way. Looking forward to hearing more, as the little bit of information here makes me interested in the same way that the bizarre Pocket Card Jockey did.
I'm a touch suspicious of the promo material, since it doesn't seem like Nintendo would promote its Princess Peach character as "badass" and there appears to be a typo - "turtle shelves" rather than the presumably intended "turtle shells." Of course, Nintendo could be offering a radically different approach to its promos, and typos in official content are nothing new.
Curious to see what comes next.
@Spoony_Tech Does anything about this seem like CODENAME STEAM to you? I think your'e the 1 person who played that. (Or maybe it was @aaronsullivan ) I feel like this was supposed to be the Wii U companion to that game but they pulled if after both Wii U and C:S crashed and burned.
Don't know what to make of this yet. I was really excited about it when I saw Mario w/ a gun b/c it looked like PvZ:GW, so Spaltoon but w/ realer guns and maybe a CoD type story, not just 3 minute matches.
But then I read about it being turn based so I was blech.
But then I remembered I liked a lot of the Mario RPG and Paper Mario games, so that helped.
Sooo, I'm excited for a new game and I'll hope it's good. Rabbids don't mean anything to me one way or the other, they're just generic video game characters.
I could never imagine a Mario Rabbids game working. However, Nintendo does have a habit of proving me wrong.
So this is what it takes for Nintendo to get third-party support. I'll pick it up at a large discount.
Super smash bros type of game?? Hard to tell
this sounds just like Codename Steam. if that's the case, im in.
I feel like I'm in the extreme minority but this actually sounds awesome. I was hoping for something in the August timeframe to fill in what was otherwise a massive gap. 20 hours and 4 worlds sounds waaay too short, but the gameplay as an RPG/SRPG with some exploration and a crazy self-mocking Mario world honestly sound incredible.
Ok, it has rabbids. BUT I'm entering this without any prior bias against rabbids, having never played their games (they all seemed like party games so I ignored them.) The gameplay itself, and the twisted mushroom kingdom sound kind of cool. A Mario SRPG....sounds kind of cool. Wonder if any of the team behind the Ghost Recon SRPG are behind it. They know what they're doing battle system wise.
Why so serious? I say "heck, why not?"
PersonNalities?
Turtle ShelVEs?
Nintendo + "Ass"?
Uhhhh huh. Either a bad fake or this video game business is going downhill quick. |3
@TobiasAmaranth You might have missed Conker back in the day It's not unprecedented for Nintendo 3rd party games to be lewd. Rare, but not unprecidented.
@rjejr He wasn't the ONLY person to play Codename: Steam...
I positively liked it. I played the downloadable demo back then, and I still have it installed on my 3DS.
Not sure if I'm excited about it yet, maybe some gameplay would change my mind.
@ThanosReXXX @rjejr At least theres a few other members of the open-minded club on this one
And I happened to like Code Name Steam. I never beat the last 2 or 3 levels....it got too difficult for me to keep up with near the end (and XC1 had just released and I was itching to get into it) but otherwise it was an awesome, solid SRPG.)
Uhhmm...?
Rabbids (aka rabbits with Down syndrome) games can have some enjoyable elements to them, and some of the mini games are actually hilarious, but compared to Nintendo IP, they are SO far below the bar that it is almost an insult to Nintendo to put them in the same game.
There better be some wizards at work here making this worth playing, or even just considering, otherwise I'll steer well clear of this "great" support from Ubisoft.
When are they finally going to realize that we want the real games, instead of all the Rabbids and Let's Dance shovelware?
This looks interesting in my opinion. Can't wait to find out if this is true at E3.
I would of been happier if they leaked super Mario oddysse footage
@TobiasAmaranth It's internal material from people whose first language isn't English. That's why it's rough.
God I hate those stupid Rabbid things!!! So far my first impression isn't good, but I definitely need to see more before making a fair decision.
Ok, im out. That's way too stupid for my taste...
IF that's actually official artwork, its one of the most embarrassing hackjobs in ages.
Typos, buzzwords galore...that's just stupid...
And if its fake, these guys need to improve their game...
But at least the old saying still hold true:
You can add Rabbids to anything and it turns to...well, you probably know the rest...
Rabbids are perfectly okay as far as characters go but a Paper Mario game with characters other than toads is out of the question...
... but why?
If you can play with only AND FREAKING ONLY the Mario's characters, I could be interested.
Looks like my type of game. Rabbids are very slapstick funny characters. Reminds me of looney tunes back in the day. Bring it on
@Yrreiht I don't know
I'm up for this. And totally surprised by the amount of positivity in the comments. Good job guys. Haters gonna hate, but I bet this wins even more people over with actual footage.
I still really don't want this to be a real thing.
We beg for new games on the system and then when some art is released for a new game we tear it apart before we know anything. Nice.
I'm glad this was leaked before E3. I would be even more disappointed if I saw it at the event
...this is CRAZY!..
.." The UNSTABLE " update incoming?...lol..
If there are selectable characters I am hoping I can just pretend that the rabbids don't exist. God I hate those things.
When I see it on store shelves.... I'll still refuse to believe it's real.
Can't we just give the Rabbids an honest chance to develop past early Wii gimmicks?
I mean, you can dislike their personality and appearance as much as you want, but don't just act like their presence automatically drops the quality of a game.
@NEStalgia You can add me amoungst thar group.
Colour me intrigued.
Does this mean that the star fox/ metroid crossover could be real?
And I would not be surprised if this was real.
This could be good if they copied some of the gameplay elements seen in Valkyria Chronicles.
Frankly, if this turns out to be true, I would give it a shot. It looks bizarre enough to work.
But why rabbids? They have like, no redeeming qualities whatsoever. They could have done almost anyone else and it would be more interesting.
@rjejr It was me but no it doesn't remind me of that game. I doubt they will go anywhere near that type of gameplay since it sold horribly.
I love the "surprise announcement at E3" plan.
Whooops!
"Turtle Shelves"
-Something here is fishy...
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this is going to be good fun. Rabbid games were usually fun anyway, but with added Nintendo polish and Mario? I think we're onto a winner.
I loved Rabbids 3D on the 3DS and even Rabbids World on Wii U was a bit of fun.
Turtle Shelves is suspect unless this was a rough draft or something from a non English speaker. But hey, Project X Zone didn't really seem like it would work and Kingdom Hearts seemed equally stupid in concept as well
@singingbrakeman
Glad to see I wasn't the only one noticing the language. Makes me question the authenticity still yet.
This better be the reason we get Assassin's Creed.
There is no way Nintendo, the king of censorship, is allowing words like 'ass' be used in advertising.
The Badass Princess?
I'm sorry but I doubt Nintendo would ever allow the word "Ass" in a Mario game, 3rd party or not.
@Jayvir Turtle Shelves, Turned Based Combat, the choice of language in general...
Its fishy for a number of reasons.
Also, Project X Zone was a sequel...kind of ^^
A spiritual successor to the PS2 title "Namco X Capcom". But yeah, KH causes some ruckus in the Square Headquarters for sure
I very much believe this. Its not even a rumour to me anymore. It's funny that this happens and all these Emily Rogers haters are backing down...
@Angelic_Lapras_King @Kalmaro @BlueKnight07
Ubisoft's internal promo assets don't need Nintendo's permission to use swear words. They're not meant to be seen by the public.
I don't get the "I don't get the negativity" comments, since from what I can see most people seem open minded or positive about it.
I don't care about this game but I have no trouble with it, I just wish that people would have been as positive or open minded with Federation Force, which did have a different (and honestly not fitting) artstyle and a different structure considering that it had misisons instead of an open world, but at least kept the gameplay from the prime series and allowed an expansion to the universe, not a different direction to the main series. Eh, anyway, it's too late now.
So the other consoles will get Far cry and Assasin's creed and we get this? Need a shoulder to cry plz
WEAPONS? MARIO WITH AN ARM CANNON? THIS IS SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG ALL OVER AGAIN!!!
@roy130390
Metroid Prime: Federation Force hate was so over the top. If people had of played I think they would've liked it (I personally haven't played it myself, not a Metroid fan) but no because it didn't have Samus or a mature artsyle it was dismissed by ignorant fans
WHY DO LUIGI AND PEACH HAVE GUNS???
Want to see a trailer before I can have opinion
wtf is this monstrosity
Rabbids are garbage. Mario's too good for them.
This is probably going to ruin the Switch's "non-kiddy" image. I can just see the commercials now... It's Wii U all over again... So much for the Super Bowl commercial and what IT did to convey that this wasn't a child's system anymore.
Congratulations, Nintendo. Ubisoft.
@MatthewHindmarsh Yeah I've been a fan of Metroid since I was 6 (when I got Super Metroid) and knew that Federation Force would be polemic, I just didn't expect it to be so hated specially since it kept the gameplay from the prime games and could have been a way to expand the franchise. Many think that it was justified because it was the first entry in a long time, but they don't realize that they jut buried the opportunity to see another entry for a long time... if not forever.
Let's hope this game does well and serves as an example of how a franchise is able to expand and try different things.
Turn based? If it was a shooter maybe I'd be interested, would be really quirky.
I don't care for the cross-branding with Rabbids - I think it would have worked a ton better with Rayman as a co-star with Mario, and using Mario enemies in an RPG.
That being said, I do find it funny how many people trash this, but then will go play some ultra weirdo otaku anime JRPGs with 'waifus' and all that creepy crap. This is 10x better than Xeno-anything.
@DEZn00ts We do want it. Speak for yourself.
If this is real Nintendo will lose a LOT of credit from me. We've seen convincing fakes before, let's hope this is too. That Peach rabbit alone is making me sick just looking at it. Marketing yourself as "self-mocking" is rarely a good thing, and that rabbit isn't self-mocking, it's catering to focus groups. Besides me not liking the Rabbids in general (they're just Minions before Minions), this just does NOT look good to me. The gameplay is going to have to be REALLY good to get me into this.
I love all the hateboners and hatebarfing going on in here.
It's incredibly stupid to judge a game as bad just based on the Rabbids being in it alone.
For the record: I am utterly neutral on the Rabbids, so their presence doesn't bother me one way or the other. So I find it rather amusing for people to trip over themselves trying to say this game is gonna be bad if it's real purely cause Rabbids.
This could be a stellar game...or a completely awful one. Only time will tell.
Let's see how this continues, honestly it's not as bad as I expected it to look.
This focus on the rabbids, repulsive little things that they are, is burying the lede. Mario with an arm cannon here is the real story, and not a good one.
In a gaming world that's always been ga-ga over guns, the lack of traditional firearms in Mario games has been a foundational pillar of not only the Mario franchise, but the entire offbeat spirit of Nintendo as a whole. The good side of the maligned "kiddy image," if you will.
There've been projectile weapons in the series before, of course (fire flowers literally give Mario a "fire arm"), but these feel... different. They're actual guns, and that means a lot.
Just look at Luigi! dat nigg* sure is ready to kill everyone in the mushroom kingdom!
@roy130390
A very loyal Metroid fan I assume? It's nice to atleast see one open-mindedness fan. To be honest, I thought people were going to love having a new Metroid, but immediately seeing the comments online about the game dashed any thoughts I had. The sad thing is, with you (a Metroid fan since Super Metroid) saying that gameplay mechanics felt the same as the Prime series, shows that others didn't look at the game from a gameplay perspective and that's disappointing. Another thing I find odd is that the main criticism for Nintendo is that they need to change yet when they do no one likes it. I do hope people consider Mario+Rabbids it looks fun.
"Convince media/gamers"
Hah, good luck with that!
Interesting to say the least.
Yikes !
Princess Rabbid Peach was just soo.... Disgusting !
Lola Bunny from Space Jam looks Much better than that Rabbid La Fea (Ugly Rabbid).
It looks so bad - it must be GENIUS!
But the spelling of "Personnalities" and the usage of 'kick-ass" kind of raise warning flags.
When I first saw this I was hoping it was Nintendo's answer to Overwatch lol
@cfgk24
I just realized if Super Smash Bros is one of "Cartoon Violence" Nintendo games that using Mario and weapons from Mii in the game. Even Mario fight with his sibling, Luigi.
So, I think it will do same things if this Mario Rabbid have some Cartoonish Weapons, Cartoon Violence and Mild Language. It will be rated E10+.
The main image looks very realistic, however all the other stuff seems fake as hell. The writing is bad and seems like something a fan would write. There are typos. Well we'll know soon enough.
This is officially the worst kept secret in gaming. Hard to beleive some people still think this is fake even after this massive leak.
I don't know how people are judging thus game already when all details about this game points to it not being anything like a traditional Mario or a traditional Rabbids game.
I really dislike how people are judging a game that so far, we haven't seen ANY actual gameplay footage yet. I get with Colour Splash why people were so concerned but with this, people are going way too overboard in my opinion. At least wait until E3 to see the actual gameplay.
So... It's a turn-based battle system? Nintendo puts Final Fantasy characters in Sports Mix and Dragon Quest characters in Fortune Street, but the characters that are well known for party games are put in an RPG?!
@Anti-Matter Cartoonish Art-style is way better than that 4k nonsense I keep hearing about
Mario with a gun? I didn't know Nintendo approved that sort of thing anymore. I mean, I know Yoshi safari is a thing, but something about this seems wrong somehow...
I need to see the gameplay to judge whether or not I buy this
I'll wait for more info and actual gameplay before final judgment
The glaring ''personnalities'' typo makes me doubt this stuff's authenticity. True or otherwise, though, I have zero interest in buying it.
This isn't actually the first time Yoshi's used a gun. He shoots Bowser in Game and Watch Gallery's Oil Panic.
The only thing I'm worried about is that it says you don't have direct control over the characters. Not sure what to think about that...
NF Magazine was already hinting about this.
@-DG Only for the exploration part. Game looks wacky, I'm loving it. Need to see some gameplay and I'm sold
Not a huge rabbids fan, but the old party one for the wii was good fun when it came out. The idea of Mario Characters wielding blasters is fun too, s'long as it's purely in a spin-off way. I dunno, it looks fun. If they can keep it as more a Mario game than a Rabbids game, I might pick it up.
Lol at the "Mario characters holding a gun?" comments...
They're a bunch of cartoonish Mario-inspired weapons, not AK-47s.
Someone mentioned the misspellings are because this is not an English-speaking company and this is an internal document not meant for outside viewing. The same explanation can be given for the use of the word "ass." Presumably they sent this to Nintendo for review, and someone on one side or the other leaked it.
@FTPinkRabbit hopefully we get to set rabbids butts on fire with fireballs or with lasers.
Wow, amazed at how lame this is.
Hope some of you like this though.
Also hoping for (MUCH) more and better for Nintendo during E3.
I will keep an open mind on this.
SpongeBob and Pantera
Disney characters and Final Fantasy characters
Snake and Smash Bros
Just a list of weird crossovers that worked. And now......Mario and the Rabbids.....who knows where this goes.
Also, does it bother anyone else that the picture has the words "bad***" and "a**"? Seems weird for a Mario game.
Well, my expectations aren't very high but I'm still interested in finding out more about this game.
This is cringe beyond cringe. I love it. Also stop acting like a bunch of whiny babies,no one is gonna force you to buy this.
Turtle Shelves?
...Also this feels fake but have at it y'all.
Whole lotta nope right there.
Huh, are they aiming for a T rating? "Badass Princess"?
nintendo has a rabbit of proving haters wrong
I always liked the rabbids, their Warner bros inspired larks always resonated with me. I need to see what we are dealing with, but this could be hilarious tbh. Im open minded and up for something fresh, fun and funny.
Bring on E3
This looks fake. Looks she is just trying toss his last amount of atention because the game dont exist. She initially had said it was be a march release and dont hapenned.
Said too wrich was a rpg and now looks a multiplayer action game. It's not making sense.
Looks like I could get into this more than some Sonic and Mario crossover game. Could be fun.
@LeRaposa how is she fake if she has been leaking things for years now... don't b so salty sir
I've seen the Rabbids show an it's pretty funny. Think Minions but more hard core. If they do this game right it will be funny and fun. I'm counting on you Nintendo don't let us down. Ps, I know it's painful to see those images.
Love the Rabbids...my wife and kids and I all watch the cartoon show, and love the comedy and stupidity that's involved...in other words, it's a REAL cartoon, not meant to be serious, just fun to watch (unlike some others that I can mention that would get people criticizing me). It's good to see two franchises coming together, but for the Rabbids, I'd rather see a Rabbids and Minions game instead, or even a new Rabbids title to begin with (something like Rabbids Go Home).
back to the topic though, I doubt the poster at the bottom is real, because I really doubt nintendo would put a cuss word in a Mario game. I think the images are fake, but the rumor of this game has been circulating for quite some time, so I'm thinking that something with it will be announced at E3...finally, a game that could get me interested into actually buying a Switch (besides Mario Odyssey)
@rjejr - it could work as a Codename STEAM. Definitely is weird. I like weird and turned based......and secretly like the Rabbids cartoon. I'm hopeful that it can be something fun.
This is real, know why? Luigi is in the back very tiny and its not the focus in the official art. Lol, poor guy.
😂😂😂 I'm tempted to make that rabbid dressed as Peach my new avatar.
Despite the rabbids being in the game the one thing that intrigues me is the idea of Mario holding a gun, or an arm cannon mind you. It just seems so strange to me
I hate the rabbids, so I'll pass this one. Since the Rabids brand is in decline compared to Mario, I wonder who receives most benefits from this - Nintendo or Ubisoft? I think it's Ubi, and they must be fronting a good part of the bill.
Regarding the leaker.... I do think the game exists, since both Eurogamer and Rogers reported on this, and Rogers turned to be spot on regarding Switch info for the reveal. I don't trust these images to be real since they're from LKD and she got hardware rumors right, but was waaaaay off base regarding software.
Unless she has improved her sources (case in which I'll happily eat crow), this images smell of fake specially the last one - they aren't going to tell general public info about the marketing plans!
Meh!
I love how this comment section has devolved into people complaining about the other people complaining about the rabbids, while touting their "open mindedness".
Too bad that none of you is open minded about the fact that most people just do not like the rabbids. Seriously, this whole "holier than thou" shtick is getting rather played out, people.
@JLPick
Pardon me for bothering you but looks like everyone here have different taste about Rabbid. Some of them have interest about Rabbid but the others are completely dislike due to "Stupid" character design and behavior.
Forgive me if I don't like Rabbid due to Ugly and Stupid looking. I prefer Bugs Bunny from Looney Tunes for better looking design.
@G_M
I'm sorry but I never like Rabbid's looking. It's too Ugly & Stupid for me to be loved.
It's about Personal favorites.
You can't ask everybody must love Rabbid.
Definetely it will have split comments.
This game is not a rumor anymore. Do you remember the ubisoft pic tweet back in Jan? Now multiple trusted sources are backing its authenticity, also LKD has been extremely accurate in her predictions (read her twitter) and openly admits the small percentage of the time she gets it wrong, ffs she reported this game in november
@Anti-Matter which is perfectly understandable. I don't really hate the rabbids, but I don't really care for them either.
Just to be clear, I completely respect your opinion. After all, it's obvious that a lot of people hate the design and behavior of the rabbids, so a lot of people are bound to be disappointed by this game's mere existence.
Having said that, I will say that I'm curious about the gameplay.
Gosh, would be really bad image if their entire floor space was devoted to this at E3, hopefully they announce it at the beginning and move on quickly.
@ThanosReXXX @NEStalgia
Well, since you both played it, did any of this sound like that?
Ohhhh, Peach. You can have a fixation on the word "ass" in marketing over me any day!
"A conservative universe, no more! Mario and comrades have embraced communism!" "The history of all hitherto existing Mario games is the history of class struggles. Princesses and toads, villains and minions, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to each other, carried on an uninterrupted, now 3D, now 2D fight, a fight that each time ended, either in the rescue of a princess, or in go-kart racing." -Marxio.
A little more seriously, I'm curious to see how they do turn based multiplayer co-op. That is only done so often. Could be fun, but I'm quite skeptical.
@Spoony_Tech "that type of gameplay"
I have to say, I didn't see any of this leading me to that type of gameplay, until I got to the part about the 65% turn based combat. And then I realized guns. And then I was like, oh no.
I haven't read all 200 comments, but what I did read, a lot more people seem to be freakin out about the Rabbids than Mario being in a shooting gun based game. Isn't he supposed to be the Nitnedo "kid friendly" mascot? And can't he shoot fireballs kamehameha style like his amiibo, why doe she even need a gun?
But I'm still open minded, really dont' know what to think. So many people liked Spaltoon, who would have thunk that? "You play as a kid who turns into a squid and you shoot ink." That had to be a difficult initial sell. 85% chance I wind up playing it. Probably before Zelda BotW the rate I'm going. And Nintendo with it's "expansion pass" DLC.
@Gerbwmu I'm not sure I knew Rabbids had a cartoon, but it makes sense. I have a feeling this won't be anything like that, even though I don't know what either are like. But I'm guessing the cartoon is very stupid and this will be a bit more serious.
Can't be any worse than Animal Crossing: amiibo Festival, can it?
Been reading the comments...Rabbits are clearly divisive. I never cared much for them but I see how the comedy could happen. It may be brilliant, just too early to tell.
@IceClimbers I see what you're saying, makes more sense now. Still feels weird for a Mario game, though.
It wouldn't be the first time guns or bullets have appeared in a Mario game, but still wondering why they're all armed...this is weird. I probably shouldn't say a word until a trailer at least, but it's weird.
@LeRaposa I Dont know why this site continues to support her. Maybe this should be LKD life
@rjejr not really. CNS is a pure hardcore SRPG on an invisible grid, like 3D Fire Emblem but with a quasi action element and a stamina gauge instead of grid space movement. Made by IS that makes FE, so their SRPG creds are solid.
This doesn't look gridded with limited distance travel but more open with some sort of tactical battle. So far it sounds plenty different but well have to see it in motion.
I didn't know people felt as strongly as they do about Rabbids 😆.
"leak"
Everyone in the comments has gone completely rabbid...
Turtle shelves.
Idk how to feel about this, whether it's real or fake...
Super fighting plumber!
@rk3388 There are all sorts of typos and really fishy things on this. Swearing in an official Mario publicity image would never be allowed in this day and age. This is definitely fake.
@Timppis his name is torpedo ted
@SANICBOOM644
Damn, of course it is Torpedo Ted.
I was too excited about the whole shenanigans that I completely forgot about their existence
Thank you
Doesn't look fake, could be real. That image of a Rabbid-Peach making selfies...yuck! I hate the Rabbids and hopefully this isn't something like the canceled (thank goodness for that) Star Wars Detours series!
And yet I keep an open mind. I have to see more!
I actuary quite like the look of the game. Sure the rabbids aren't the best but the game sure looks interesting.
I would laugh so hard if this is the Super Mario RPG sequel we've all been looking for.
I think it looks cute from the little we can see from these pictures. Openly optimistic.
NO! just no
I would have thought that after all of the Mario and Sonic at the Olympics games people would no longer be shocked by odd Mario crossovers or believe that Nintendo will always uphold the highest quality with these titles. That said, this is just a picture so I'll wait for a game before making my mind up. People on here really need to relax.
You're telling me this might actually be real? That the leakers and those nothing people (Laura Kate Dale etc) were right? This is getting out of hand. Can we not have surprises anymore? I'm certainly not happy this is being shown off before E3 if this is intended to be a project that's shown off during that time. What's to look forward to now?
Why are you all complaining? At least it's an actual retail game coming to the Switch. Something to play that is not a port of an existing Wii U game. Better than nothing. Be glad.
@SLIGEACH_EIRE lol yes totally right !
Is it possible Nintendo gave Ubisoft their most beloved IP to help boost the low quality of Rabbids for some other deal later down the line? I know Rabbids have a lot to gain from being associated with Mario without Mario benefitting so Nintendo might be getting something good out of this that we have yet to see.
"The Badass Princess" "#Sassy #NoFilter" "Self defense kick-ass"
I have a bad feeling about this...
@chriiiiiiiiiis I think what Nintendo gain out of this is a potential long-term third party developer. By making this ubisoft will gain a dev team familiar with the Switch which will help them bring multiplatform titles over and maybe exclusives down the line.
I'll be honest, at first I was kinda like "Ew, why?" ...but after reading about the possible gameplay, who knows maybe it'll be actually decent?
I'll save my judgement for when we see the game in motion.
@GrailUK I completely agree. It could be really good.
I think people disliking this game right now only dislike the stigma of Rabbids, rather than what they think the game's quality will be.
ew, no
@gaga64
pleasenintendodon'truinmariopleasenintendodon'truinmariopleasenintendodon'truinmariopleasenintendodon'truinmariopleasenintendodon'truinmario
@G-Boy It says #sassy... not that it changes much:P
Clearly this game is aimed at children, so it probably won't be a bad thing to have floating about in the marketplace as it will make switch popular to all ages.
The more mass appeal the switch has the better as far as im concerned, as it will simply lead to more content for everyone and the continued success of an exceptionally great company, Nintendo.
"July: Convince media/gamers" July could be tough. They've got their work cut out there!
Part of me is intrigued, wanting to know more. Part of me hopes this is some elaborate troll as payback for all the leaks and rumourmongering.
I think the game itself is real but these posters etc are fake. Mario and his pals' art style looks subtly different from what you'd expect and given how exacting we know Nintendo has been with their characters in the past (Bowser on Wreck-It Ralph and Donkey Kong on Pixels) I'd be surprised if they would let that fly.
In addition, the press documents with spelling mistakes? I've seen plenty of press releases in my time and none with glaring spelling errors.
I don't know. I'm not a fan of turn-based strategy myself so I probably wouldn't bother buying it, but it sounds like a fun mash-up for those who are! Plus, Nintendo being willing to open up and share their IPs for projects like this can only lead to more awesome collaborations in the future!
@LeRaposa @Shugo @SEGATA_DREAMCAST @ThatNyteDaez
Have to agree with you all, I wish people guessing crap would go away, but as you can see from the comments section people love this speculative BS and make a platform for her/him. A platform that gives them 'internet fame' while she sits on her backside all day sipping tea and claiming social. She's obviously a poor writer who sold out and started this annoying thing of ruining people's fun.
Please NL can you not repeat last years lead up to events by flooding the site with rumours. I don't want to sit their watching the presentation wondering if this is true or that. I would appreciate your hopes and thoughts on upcoming directs and events, but lets not base it on just rumourmongers BS.
I wonder if this is a peace offering from Nintendo to Ubisoft after they got burned supporting Wii U big early on? Could be as Ubi have been very cautious this time round.
Nintendo will not give a weapon to mario. Look at mario paper.
I remember contemplating for hours while Blockbuster was still around, looking at the Rabbids game boxes on Wii... Wondering to myself... "Who the hell is supposed to be the audience for this? Who does this appeal to?" Now yes, I know there's a market for stupidity. The movie, television, and toy industries have proved this time and again. But I don't understand the idea of combining ugly and stupid.
I've never understood the "appeal" of the Rabbids. They've always been a mediocre attempt at using "childish humor/random" characters to shoehorn into... Whatever. As far as I'm concerned, these things should have been left to become dust bunnies by now. Why the hell is Ubisoft still using these abominations?
Not to mention, giving the Mario characters aggressive/cool looking guns completely goes against Miyamoto's intentions. You think he had some backlash against Paper Mario after Thousand Year Door? I can't imagine the lashing he would be giving to who ever came up with this cheap shot cash in!
Since when Nintendo can say badass?
I know this sounds bad but, a part of me hopes this game is really great just so I can laugh at all of you.
This is what Joseph Conrad really was talking about when he wrote Heart of Darkness.
Lol, you nintendofanboys above me are very stupid. You want a game to be "killed" before you see gameplay, but later you will complain that the switch does not have enough games. Doublestandarts. I bet all of you who "hate" this game will buy it anyway.
Looks fun, but I'm put off by what they're calling peach now. If I'm gonna get a gAme, I usually want to be able to play with my little brother.
If it's a "best of both worlds" crossover, count me in. A proper Mario & Rayman crossover would have been better, but hey.
It's essentially "Mario on mushrooms (and not Super Mushrooms)", which is A-ok in my book.
@rjejr I'm not sure if it could be anything similar, other than being a turn based strategy game with funny guns, but I was primarily responding because you appeared to not like Codename: STEAM, and I thought it was actually a great little game, with some solid gameplay.
So, I wanted to express myself concerning that, not so much in defense of this possible new game here, unless Nintendo takes the reigns and works its magic.
Two things to consider:
First off, for the people going on about "but a Mario game can't have guns":
These are obviously some type of goofy ray guns, so the effects of them probably won't be worse than any of the weapons that we see in games like Mario Kart and Smash Bros, and considering the other half of the cast, the effects will more than likely be comical, so perhaps we can think of freeze or burn rays or something along that line.
Second, for the people that mention those "glaring" typos, which "obviously" show that all of this is fake:
If you take these slides into account, it is obvious (well at least to anyone with a marketing degree) that these were meant for use within the company, NOT as marketing material for the general audience/public.
So, if it's real, it was more than likely used as a "behind closed doors" presentation for either the board of Ubisoft or as a presentation for Nintendo's management. And Ubisoft obviously being a French company with very few (if any) fluent English speakers among them might account for all the typos.
And let's not forget that there are also quite a few people at Nintendo who can't speak English, so they wouldn't have noticed these typos either.
And besides that, the typos aren't what matters: it's the concept that they want to get across to whatever management, either their own or Nintendo's, and a couple of slides quickly cobbled together can be more than sufficient to do the job, leaving them ample space and time to work out the kinks after they get the okay to proceed with their idea.
@AlexSora89 Rayman doesn't have the broad appeal. The Rabbids have got an ongoing cartoon series (in its 3rd season) and the Raving Rabbids games were pretty successful.
Not enough people realize this.
@PlywoodStick See above for the Rabbids.
As for the "guns", they look like ray guns. Which Mario is more than acquainted with from Smash. Either Miyamoto signed off on it or Nintendo finally (and thankfully) stopped listening to him.
I like the Luigi parkour
@ThatNyteDaez Solid Mario Odyssey details, more unannounced stuff, Xenoblade 2 and FEWarriors,... .
Not sure why people are acting like this leaking ruins all the surprise of Nintendo's E3.
@VIIIAxel It's an internal presentation likely cobbled together by Ubisoft (a French company).
But keep telling yourself it's fake. Honestly, why do people never learn?
Wow. It looks...interesting. I don't know what else to say about this.
Thought it was fake at first due to the "turtle shelves" typo but I guess not. Won't judge it until I see footage first.
EDIT: Realized this wasn't supposed to be public thanks to the announcement part so I guess the typo wouldn't have disproven it.
@PlywoodStick
I think Ubisoft is the "BadAss" behind this chaotic rumour.
Even if the rumour is true, what is Ubisoft thinking about by putting very Unlovable Rabbid no matter how persistent is Ubisoft ?
I've never played a Rabbids game, and neither do I think it would be my kind of fun. I feel they would be similar to Minions, although again I have never seen a Minion movie nor do I intend to. But a new type of Mario game is enticing, and I'm pretty sure I will pick this game up at some point.
Lol over 300 comments on this. It's going to be ok people, life will go on.
@ThanosReXXX "because you appeared to not like Codename: STEAM"
Haven't played it, not a big 3DS person, but it always looked good to me. But I can read, and the game sold poorly, that's a fact. Like Wii U poorly it seems. Thats' what I was commenting on, the fact that it didn't sell well. The fact that this game reminded me of it was just b/c it did, wasn't extrapolating that out to how good this game would be or how poorly it would sell.
If this was Nintendo's big 'surprise' for E3, it was ruined long before this leak. I'd be more disappointed that this is what Nintendo thinks will floor us.
@CrazedCavalier It's the kind of character/show/product that contributes towards kids getting higher rates of ADD. (Yes, that actually has clinical proof- not allowing children to process what's going on sometimes, especially in zany action media, actually damages their mental development and gradually deteriorates the ability to maintain concentration.) It's fine to have silly and wacky things, but there's a difference between that and pure, mindless stupidity.
As for the ray guns, well... They get a pass in Smash, since it's unavoidable when you cross paths with Metroid, Star Fox, et al. However, typically in Nintendo products, there's a context behind who wields guns during what circumstances. Fox using handheld guns is actually quite rare, it's usually ship to ship combat. Samus is usually killing alien beasts. And it's usually the bad guys who primarily use guns elsewhere. This sort of normalizes the Mario cast using guns, and teaches it's target audience that it's okay for the hero to rely on them.
It's all about context. It doesn't matter for us, but it's important to think about with younger audiences.
Listen, I get the hate and I personally think the Rabbids games and characters are stupid. But this could be fun, I'm not enthused about it but I'm not discounting it altogether. Hopefully if this is real then at least it turns out halfway decent.
Also? Turtle shelves. Turtle....SHELVES. Heroes in a half shelf.
@Anti-Matter As noted by others, because it sells surprisingly well. Which is not necessarily a good thing.
@Hydrus13 Aaahaah I'm getting dyslexia apparently I read shelf as shell HELP
I didn't realize they were going to try and be edgy, what with their use of the "ass" word :/
That's a little weird, but other than that it looks interesting.
@rjejr Well, you can still try out the free demo from the eShop, so I'd say perhaps you should give it a go and find out for yourself if the poor sales figures are justified or not. Unless you don't have a 3DS/2DS of course...
And FYI: sales numbers aren't always an indicator of how good or bad a game is, let alone be the entire story. There could very well have been other factors involved, such as timing, competition, marketing push/effort.
On the whole, the game is an enjoyable experience, and the whole concept itself can also be quite interesting, especially if you like steam punk and alternate realities of history type of games.
@LeRaposa whiner alert!
Anyway this looks so bad I need to play it right now!!
@ThanosReXXX I think I did play the demo and liked it actually. And I'm pretty sure i never said anything bad about the game, I just asked Spoony if he was the 1 person who played it, that has nothing to do w/ how good or bad the game is.
I will say I don't like turn based, and I was very disappointed when I found out it was turn based, thinking it was an action game like Uncharted.
Here's my post, which I spent 20 minutes looking for -
"turn-based
Sriosuly? I thought it's a run-n-gun team based 3rd person action shooting game like Splatoon, how the heck can it be turned based? Had no idea it's one of those, good thing there's a demo I guess. Thanks for all the info."
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/01/code_name_steam_demo_available_now_on_the_3ds_eshop
I still liked the demo despite my great disappointment. Which is the same disappoint I had when I read this was turn based. Which now that I think about it is probably why I thought about CNS, same negative reaction when I found out it was turn based and not action packed.
I kinda dig it.
@CrazedCavalier
I don't know, a straightforward Mario game with Rayman's backgrounds would basically sell itself.
... but sure, marketing reasons (especially when Ubisoft is concerned) play a big role in the whole - pun not intended - picture.
A Nintendo game involving arm cannons, and it's... not Metroid?
Who in their right mind thought this was a good idea? pets Mario amiibo "It will be o' tay....just close your eyes and look the other way"...
'Personnalities'? Yeah, sure this is real...
@rjejr Not sure how annoyed you are or if I step on any toes, but that was not my intent. I just interpreted the comment wrong.
By the way: how did you think this would even come close to being like Uncharted? Those types of games aren't really present on the 3DS, obvious graphics differences aside, but even the scope of it. The closest two games are Xenoblade and Monster Hunter, but those are different beasts. (or were you joking?)
But Splatoon-like could have been nice.
@ThanosReXXX I didn't mean like Uncharted, I meant play like Uncharted, as in move around and shoot things. I could have used any 3rd person shooter but that's the one that popped into my head. I think my first comment was this reminded me of Plants vs Zombies: Garden Warfare. I'm just not a big turn based guy, I prefer run and gun. Like Spaltoon. But Splatoon is only 3 or 5 minute matches, not a story driven game like the Mario RPG or Paper Mario, so I thought this would be more of an action RPG like Kingdom Hearts.
I suppose ultimatley this is just Paper Mario or Mario RPG w/ Rabbids. Which isn't a bad thing, Thousand Year Door was a great game, so I can do w/ more of that. But I dont' do "grids".
I kinda wish this was a Mario + Rayman crossover because I really love that series, and Origins & Legends are my favourites. I'm not a fan of the Rabbids at all so I'm not sure about this... maybe it will be a similar quality to other Mario spinoffs. I hope it's good.
@rjejr Well, just because they weren't visible in the game, doesn't mean that there weren't actually any grids in Paper Mario.
Except for the free roaming/sandbox games, almost all turn based strategy games use some form of grids. Mostly to decide whether you still have enough moves left to attack or not once you've walked a certain distance.
So, I guess that means that you never were an Advance Wars or Fire Emblem fan either, then?
@ThanosReXXX I played Advanced Wars, it was good, but i dont like turn based grids. Turn based JRPG I'm used to, Grandia 2 on the Dreamcast had the best ever system where it was turn based but the computer controlled your characters movements, letting them move around as if it were real time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFXmJ1Oyl0I
"Can do better" "So cliché"
Nintendo wouldn't say such things about their perfect games.. So I'm in doubts.
Considering this was rumoured quite a long time ago, I'm not that surprised.
However, there are two things that I DO find strange:
1. According to the alleged leaks, this will be published by Ubisoft. That's kind of a shocker IMO. There are only so many Nintendo-character based games that I can think of that aren't published by Nintendo. The Mario + Sonic games were only published by Sega in Non-Japanese territories I think.
2. I'm honestly still quite surprised that they didn't choose Rayman instead of the Rabbids. At least the guy starred in plenty of games of the same genre as Mario, and he regained some of his credibility lately with the awesome Origins and Legends. You'd think people would at least remember him more fondly than the Rabbids.
@Smokingspoon
This is probably stuff internal to Ubisoft (not Nintendo), I'm guessing an early draft.
@rjejr I see you're also a fan of those silent D's...
Ah, Grandia 2... that was indeed a great game, and in general, anything that reminds me of the Dreamcast is always nice.
Too bad that what it also reminds me of is that back then, a lot of games seemed to have the same awful sound sample for characters walking, which actually didn't sound like anything even remotely close to real walking at all...
@TheGameSquid It more than likely is (internal). And there are possible reasons for the typos as well. I explained as much from a sales & marketing point of view in comment #312.
As far as I'm concerned, it looks really fun. Hopefully the game play will be as fun as this marketing material.
@Shiryu That screenshot is what got me excited about it!
no...just...just no!
The vulgar descriptions of Princess Peach Toadstool in the images made me suspect these images of not being from any authorized source. Whether they be from an authorized source or not, I still do not like them; not just for the vulgar descriptions, but for their depictions.
@ThomasBW84 Hi Thomas! So I've been following this game and this story for a while. I'm also into stocks, and there's been some really interesting chatter going around. Depending on the success of this game, I'm hearing Nintendo might be a suitor to buy a commanding share in Ubisoft. The idea is Nintendo would use Ubisoft like Rare- as a 2nd party dev with creative control over some Nintendo IP's, while also getting Ubisoft a way out of a hostile takeover by Vivendi
I don't want to stretch this comment too much, but it makes sense. Mario is just testing the waters (if they can't make Mario profitable, then its not worth the investment) I'd love if you guys did a little digging and did an opinion piece on it. This wouldn't mean Nintendo would be overseeing Assassins Creed games or stopping Ubisoft from releasing for other platforms. But Nintendo would be getting much needed assistance in developing HD games for franchises that have been long dormant (think Ubi-tendo Metroid). Plus, I'm told Nintendo stock would explode. Like, rocket past Wii mania explode
@westman98 I don't think anyone's trying to imply it'll be gritty or edgy. Rather, it's how they'll go at the concept. So far Nintendo's big shooter is Splatoon, a game in which squid-human mutants act like 90s kids and fight for turfs. When Nintendo says they're doing something everyone else has done but they haven't, many of us raise an eyebrow in case it ends up like Splatoon did and turns out to be spectacular.
This looks amazing. Just the shake-up Mario needs. For all its amazing and bold hardware moves, Nintendo is often quite conservative with its games. This would bring some very welcome craziness to Mario.
Some sketchy language in those presentations, but if this is an internal document made by a French team, that could easily be the case.
Wonder what co-op would be if there's no direct control.
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