It’s no secret that this writer is a huge Smash Bros. enthusiast - we’ve already covered what we’d like to see in the dreamed-about enhanced port/Director’s Cut edition of Smash 4 for Nintendo Switch, but what we have here is something arguably more exciting. As E3 looms near, we at Nintendo Life would like to host our own “mini fighter ballot”, and want to know who you’d like to receive the almighty invitation as a new challenger in the famous world-colliding brawler for the Switch, as an 'Ultimate Edition' add-on.
Some may hold back on their dream candidate(s) due to them being 1) already an Assist Trophy within the game, 2) a third-party character, or 3) generally unrealistic, but we encourage you to absolutely have at it with the enticing poll or 'Other' box below. Whether they’re returning veterans, new first or second-party characters, fresh IP, or someone completely unexpected from a third-party franchise, you never know what the big N could throw at us next – we beg to differ that anybody predicted the arrival of Final Fantasy's Cloud Strife! Couple that with the launch of Super Bomberman R and upcoming titles like Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers, ARMS, Splatoon 2, Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces - you never know who could join the fray!
So with that said, either pick from our list or - if your favourite isn't there - enter your chosen fighter in the 'Other' field provided and hit that ‘Vote’ button; we're making it difficult by only allowing ONE vote per user. We’ll then collate the results and reveal them after a potential official announcement (we suspect at E3 or around then in June), or as a consolation prize if the rumoured release isn't confirmed.
Thanks for voting, the poll is now closed. Check out the results here.
Here’s to hoping we actually receive some new fighters in the (hopefully) inevitable Super Smash Bros. 4 definitive edition for Nintendo Switch, and good luck to your pick making the cut!
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I have the unpopular opinion of less fighters. Less fighters means far better balance.
The old Tekken games were far better than the new ones with rosters of 50. Street Fighter 2 has been as popular as long because of the balance from a small roster, so I really wish they'd stop just shoving fighters into this for the sake of pleasing people who want every obscure character ever in a Smash game and start making amazing games again.
Why else is Melee so popular in fighting tournies to this day? Smaller roster, better balance. Better game.
More third party characters! The 3rd party characters they have recently added have been so cool and there are plenty more (like Sora or Monster Hunter) that could be great additions.
@VENOMVSCARNAGE
I think less characters means less characters that are competitively viable (not many Melee characters are).
Voted for Isaac. My personal choice would be a Monster Hunter character.
Vote Princess Daisy or else.
And also, I don't think we will see Smash for a long time, because it will eat into ARMS' potential, and a port would probably add one or two new characters and not much else.
I've been wanting Rayman ever since his trophy was teased.
Where's the Linkle option?
I voted Tom Nook because I think he has a lot of potentiality cool move set ideas.
Shantae. All DLC, stages, and modes from both versions.
@VENOMVSCARNAGE Faster gameplay and a variety of exploits.
I reckon these guys would fare rather well among the Smash crowd.

Of course we all know who THE REAL contender really is...

Inkling is a given, and an ARMS character (probably Spring Man with Ribbon Girl as an alt) would be fun. Besides those, I'd pick Impa, K.Rool and a Metroid villain (order of preference: Dark Samus, Sylux and then Ridley)
@VENOMVSCARNAGE Did you just claim Melee, with its grand total of 6 out of 26 viable characters, has a balanced roster?
@ZurapiiYohane Sora is owned by Disney. If they give the ok then he can make it.
rest in peace Alexandra Roivas
the super obscure character that only 10 people want and who would work well in SSB
@VENOMVSCARNAGE while yeah, smaller rosters are more balanced, SSBM is probably the worst example, with only a handful of actually-well-balanced characters being used in the tournaments of such a buggy game...
@VENOMVSCARNAGE I agree, the enormous rosters of modern fighting games puts me off totally. Something like Tekken 3 or Soul Calibur with ~20 characters is just right in my book.
In some modern fighters there are characters I've barely ever played against because there are so many in there. What's the point of even putting those characters in if they're not worth using? A smaller more balanced roster is definitely the best way to go in my book.
Isaac, from Golden Sun.
Why does the poll include Isaac from Binding of Isaac, but not Isaac from Nintendo's own IP?
I voted for an arms character and it needs to be Twintelle or maybe just all characters as alternate skin
If you didn't vote Waluigi waaaaaht are you doing.
I was so tempted to vote Mr Resetti with his anger and pickaxe, but I just couldn't go past Tails, one of the greatest video game characters of all time that isn't yet in Smash.
More Fire Emblem, I voted for Hector as there's no axe users in Smash and that weapon type would add something new to fighting styles. Lance users like Ephraim and Laguz like Ranulf would also have rather unique fighting styles.
Robbie Rotten
When you realize you want Isaac from Golden Sun in the next Super Smash Bros. but they listed Isaac from another game instead.

The lack of Phoenix Wright in this list is bothering me.
@retro_player_22 Let's be honest here, Issac is a dead character.
I went with Inkling but Shovel Knight would have been awesome as well; and (as unrealistic as it is) Rusty or Piper from the SteamWorld series would be incredible!
@memoryman3 Which can be remedied with a new game. Golden Sun is still a cliffhanging series, simply not putting Isaac in Super Smash Bros. because of a lack of popularity is not a good excuse as he made it to a Super Smash Bros. game before as assist trophy. Not utilizing that same design for playability is a miss opportunity.
@VENOMVSCARNAGE @BulkSlash
I agree. The Smash roster is already getting so bloated. Melee had a perfect amount.
Long-running fighting franchises have a tendency to just keep adding and adding more characters to the point where it becomes completely overwhelming to newcomers. For example, when I was a kid, Street Fighter 2 was one of my favorite games and there were only 8 playable characters, but I had time to fully explore all of them, learning them all and all of their moves inside out and thus getting to know exactly who my favorite was. A few years ago I bought a fighting game in a long-running franchise for the first time and I was greeted with a wall of what seemed like 1000 characters. It's like; I have no time to go through all of these... Sometimes less is more.
Tails and Knuckles, with Tails having the slight edge for being Sonic's Luigi. If we can have Mario and Sonic at the olympics, surely we can have that rivalry in Smash Bros.
Other than that, I would be kind of interested in seeing Simon Belmont. If Super Bomberman R can have tease that, and given the original Castlevania games on NES, it makes perfect sense.
Fiora from Xenoblade!
I'd honestly prefer a brand new Smash game over a Smash 4 port. I have a feeling that some mention of Smash will happen at E3; I honestly just hope it's a new iteration.
Lots of good choices there. Skull kid would be welcome as another villain from the Zelda universe. It would be great to have a Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter character in the same game.
New character's aside, I'd like to see Kirby with a Robobot mech final smash.
Realistically: an Arms fighter or 2, Inkling, Tails, Knuckles, Toon Zelda/Tetra, Impa.
Unrealistically: Kitana from Mortal Kombat, Cia from Hyrule Warriors, Samurott.
i have voted for axel stone
My three desires for Sm4sh were Shulk, a fire emblem mage, and Ridley. We got Shulk and a fire emblem mage, now we just need Ridley.
EDIT: I also secretly wanted Sports Waifu Daisy.
BOMBERMAN BOMBERMAN BOMBERMAN. How is he NOT in it already???
I voted for Dixie Kong because I like her and there needs to be a Dixie amiibo. I certainly didn't vote for any non-Nintendo characters because, as much as I like them (and as much as I realize that that ship has long-since sailed...), as a Smash purist, I don't think they belong in Smash. For me, Smash should be the Nintendo "universe" only. For me, having non-Nintendo characters in Smash Bros is like having Batman or Superman appear in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. It's inelegant. For that reason, Melee was the last pure Smash Bros.
I would like Wolf and young Link back, but Wolf Makes the most sense, other then that I would see a new IP character like a Inklings come to the game or the return of Ice Climbers, not sure if it would get any more guest characters although I can be wrong.
I think the Inklings would make for a likely choice in Smash 5. They have a large arsenal of weapons at their disposal. I imagine their play style focuses on covering the arena in ink. Standing in ink could boost their strength but they could also dive into the ink in their Squid form, evade enemy attacks, swim behind the opponent and attack them. In this form they could move a lot faster but can't jump as high. Their recovery (Up Special) move could be the Squid Jump they do when jumping to a team mate. I imagine the ink would disappear after a while since having the stage permanently covered in ink would make them op.
My second choice would be a Pokémon Trainer but completely different from the one in Brawl. He or she would fight on their own, using their Pokemon for their Specials (like a Flying type like Pidgey for their Up B recovery), they could ride on their bike for a dash attack and crush into their opponents and catch their opponents temporarily in PokeBalls (with different tiers depending on how long it was charged; PokeBall to SuperBall to HyperBall and finally MasterBall). The last move could work wonders with offstage combat at the ball and trapped opponent would just fall down to their doom. All Mainline Protagonists could be there as Alternate Costumes, too! With their Pokemon even changing accordingly!
I think an ARMS character would be a likely choice. It would be high risk, high reward play style as throwing out your fists like that would probably have a long recovery, leaving the character helpless. I think Spring Man with Ribbon Girl as an alternate costume are likely.
Zangief!
Mario.
I can't believe there's no Phoenix Wright or professor layton on this list
How can you make this list without Geno (Mario Rpg)!?
Platdude FTW!!!
Like the first comment in here, I'd also like to see the cast trimmed a bit back down a bit.
However, my primary desire would be the reinjection of some universe coherency.
The first game was about someone playing with their toys, and both the low-poly art style and the style of the promotion art meant characters meshed pretty well.
Now it's far less obvious why this jumble of very different looking characters would hang out. Some of the characters have indeed been slightly redesigned to fit into the game in Smash 4, and the overall result is somewhat better than that of Brawl, but they can go much much further.
Anything but Fire Emblem characters.
Yeh, people are right. More fighters is just bad. Thinking about it, I think they should trim down Mario Kart Deluxe as well. So many racers and all that is just bad... Likewise, I dont see the need for so many weapons in BoTW...
Sometimes I just don't understand people lol
Cloud in WiiU was terrible how dare he be in it, he's never been on a Ninty console! Anyone who has had thier own games or had a big part in a franchise only on Ninty consoles should be in it
When the (official) Wii U vote came up I voted for Spyro the Dragon. I'm still voting for Spyro the Dragon. He has had a showing on Nintendo consoles and his moveset from the games should be pretty easily adapted.
Ummm Professor Layton, Phoenix Wright, and Captain Toad need to be on that list!
Professor Layton please!
I just want the entirety of Smash 4 and its disgustingly overpriced DLC on a single cartridge. In fact, I haven't bought any of the character packs (aside from the very early level/costume packs; I still don't have any DLC characters other than Mewtwo).
As far as new characters are concerned... I'd love to see some more jokey characters in there, like Vanilluxe, Magikarp, Dr. Kawashima (with Devil alt), Tingle, and the like.
I feel like the only one in the world who thinks Smash Bros. won't be announced at E3. It's definitely possible but I just don't see why they would want Smash taking the spotlight over all their other games for the holiday season like Super Mario Odyssey, Mario Kart 8, Breath of the Wild, and Splatoon 2.
Aside from that, I'm not too keen on seeing any new fighters but I'd welcome any Splatoon or ARMS characters. I'd like characters from Golden Sun too but I also don't want to see any more characters with swords.
I'm ticking Crono, but I'm also thinking of one of the heroes from the Dragon Quest games.
@Aerona yes pls
@duddy
I voted Geno also lol!
Genooo
The lack of Geno as an actual option is disturbing.
Why there´s no Greninja or Ash-Greninja listed?... or he was allready on the wiiU SSB? i didn´t grab the wiiu, just the 3ds...
Remove half of Smash 4's roster. Reprogram awful characters like Link. Add Waluigi.
None of the above. Isaac needs to be there for some Golden Sun love
Zero from Megaman X or Megaman Zero. I can't be the only one, right? Right?
I voted for Elma from XCX as her dual guns could have a nice move set, with a Skell as the Final Smash, but I'd also like to see Isaac from Golden Sun. He deserves to be back, and we deserve the answer to that cliffhanger!
Oh, and bring back Snake.
Young Link? Very unlikely because Toon Link and Normal Link, but that won't keep me from voting
Many fine options, but the correct answer is Skull Kid.
Tingle is obviously the best character for smash.
Didn't vote. No Goku option.
Freakin Bomberman please!
This needs to be multiple choice. Definitely want Inkling, but beyond that, any of Ridley, Krystal, Dixie, or Shantae would be welcome.
Aren't you getting a bit ahead of yourselves here?
Snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake!!!!
I would like to see Nintendo do spinoffs, much like Capcom does with their fighters. Things like, SSB x Capcom, SSB x Marvel, SSB x Sega, whatever comes to mind. Not to many of course, but ever since Ryu was introduced I thought it'd be fun to have a Capcom fighter in the style of SSB.
Waluigi!
So many terrible ideas in that list, yet Golden Sun's Isaac, easily one of the ballot's fan favorites, is not even included.
Isaac from Golden Sun and Lyn from Fire Emblem for me. I've pretty much given up all hope on both, though. Never truly had any hope for Lyn to begin with, sadly, but Isaac was a more painful dream to let go of.
Inklings
@VENOMVSCARNAGE Could have sworn the only characters in Meelee were Fox and Falco...
But seriously, I think they've done a good job with balancing with the amount of diverse characters we have now. If every character was perfectly balanced, there wouldn't be enough variety in the game, so having a few OP characters is fine, really.
Edit: Oh, and I'm voting for Geno... obviously...
Beyond that, I'd love to see Snake come back, and Bomberman as the new guest character alomg with Geno. For first party, I mainly would like Ice Climbers to return, Impa, Dixie, Cranky, Pig Ganon (ALttP), Paper Mario, and Meowth.
I would like to see a lot more, but honestly asking for more is becoming extremely unrealistic at this point. One of the reasons I'm really hoping this is a port, because more characters would be much more manageable for a port.
Farfetch'd yo!
I know it sounds strange, but I just hope we get an original Smash for Switch. Also, as great as MK 8 DX is, I'd love for a new original Mario Kart for Switch in the next few years. Yes, Nintendo can still make money on Wii U software ports for Switch, but original entries will be awesome.
Shovel Knight is the only viable option that will ever apear on any list ever. Captain N would be a distant second though.
Ridley or Dark Samus. Ever since Brawl.
You listed three Animal Crossing characters and none of them are Isabelle? C'mon, she's the obvious choice if you're paying attention. Tom Nook doesn't have a zillion badges in Nintendo Badge Arcade, y'know?
I'm pretty sure we've been over how Ridley was pretty much impossible to add.
For me, I'm totally on board with Splatoon joining the club.
If they added King K. Rool and Waluigi, my roster would be complete. I can't believe I didn't get either of those in Smash 4. I can only be thankful for Wario and Olimar, as I don't see them adding Waluigi or King K. Rool anytime in the near future.
@IronMan28
I agree with this, but if a new Smash is coming, it won't be for years. If we get a Smash Port it is strictly to fill the gaps until that time comes.
Too many choices! I would love an Inkling, K.Rool, Ridley, Skull Kid, Bomberman, Shovel Knight, Shantae, Isaac, Sceptile or Waluigi but my dream choice would definitely be the Hunter from Monster Hunter!
This Poll is terrible. It doesn't even include the third party character I want to see make a return: Solid Snake! Of course, Konami being what they now are, they'd probably get in the way of that one. But this poll is still awful. So many missing characters, and so many characters that are really unlikely (That Issac? Really?)
Only a few really make sense, and that's because they're so obvious.
You are going to end up with Others up the wazoo.
Optimus prime, Freddie kruger
I'f love to see Professor Layton, spring man and inkling. The last two ones are much more likely though since they were in more recent titles and are from competitive games as well.
Nintendo would be fools not to put in characters from Splatoon, one of their biggest hits in the last few years. A really fast but fragile character focused on zoning sounds like a good time.
Solid Snake and Inkling!
@ChessboardMan Solid Snake is there, you must've missed it!
@VENOMVSCARNAGE Yeah, I actually love that the like of Street Fighter 2 Turbo and now ARMS only have around ten fighters. Once you get into the multiple tens numbers it just starts to feel like too much imo. Although, with a game like Smash Bros. it's kind of okay because it's as much a collection/gallery of all the great Nintendo characters as much as anything else.
Midna.
Can't believe you left her out.
Just like last time, I'd trade 70% of the roster for Snake.
Goron surely!
For a moment there i thought i missed some big news.
@AlphaJaguar I think Sora is owned by Square-Enix. They developed Kingdom Hearts and created Sora, after all.
Cloud is also owned by Square, so I think Sora is definitely possible. I would love to see it happen.
@memoryman3 Voted Daisy before I even saw your ultimatum.
I don't know if dixie is possible. Nintendo and Microsoft did some deal over Rare's properties before Diddy Kong Racing was re-released on DS, allowing Microsoft to take control of Banjo. We know Diddy Kong was ceded to Nintendo, along with DKC series rights for virtual console.. But I'm not sure about the others (dixie/lanky/funky/chunky/other original characters created by Rare might be in limbo). Also, the VC games were briefly pulled from the wiishop at one point, suggesting those licenses had to be renegotiated with Microsoft and/or are more complicated than originally thought. Microsoft has a good relationship with Nintendo atm, but I'm not sure they'd agree to let the character be used without a cut. Maybe as DLC?
Only allowed to pick one? Aww.
But since that's the case, I'm gonna say King K. Rool. We don't have enough playable bad guys in Smash.
It was very hard for me to choose. I would love to see Wolf return because I loved him in Brawl. With that said I would rather see a new character than an old character. That made decide between black shadow from f zero and the inklings from splatoon. I ultimately chose the latter since I think they could have a unique play style
There's a number of characters I could choose to be included, it's a tough call. However, I don't ever want Snake back in the game. And if possible, I'd like Cloud removed. 3rd party character slots should be reserved for characters that have majorly contributed to Nintendo home consoles. Neither have not done so. Cloud has never been on a Nintendo home console, so he can get lost.
Knuckles would just be a heavy clone of Sonic, so I went with Shadow.
I just want paper mario. His moves would be really different from normal mario.
Master Mummy all the way.
Voted for Sora.
I may be in the minority here, but I would prefer a Smash 5 rather than a port with the odd extra. I also have no issues with having more characters on the roster, as long as none of them are unbalanced (wishful thinking). Many have their own personal favorite character from the games they grew up with, so having them for options would be nice. But with that said, it would mean we would have clone characters with just different skins.
My concern is, I do not think any 3rd party character who has never shown up on a Nintendo system to begin with should not be eligible. Cloud is a prime example.
@flightsaber Dixie Kong was a playable character in Tropical Freeze and Funky was the shopkeeper.
As much as I love M.Bison (if you couldn't tell already), I had to go with Bomberman - he would be so much more fun from a mechanic standpoint.
As for some of these comments, they're amusing - people really do need to chill. Yeah Golden Sun's Isaac should've been there, but big deal - there's the "Other" field option for a reason. These comments would be understandable if this option was absent, but just because your favourite(s) aren't in the initial list, there's no need to throw toys out the pram. You can still vote for your Genos and whatnot, so go for it and be done with it!
Besides, I for one was happy that the Isaac from Binding of Isaac was included, to accompany Shovel Knight in the "indie" bracket.
Gimme Scott Pilgrim, and I'll die happy
I voted Shantae. I also want Daisy and King K. Rool. But more than that, I want an adventure/story mode, a boss rush mode, and/or conveyor belts back in the custom stage builder. Player characters are great, but they aren't the only way the game can be improved.
I went with Shovel Knight as his move set would be cool, he did get his own amibo.
No Splatoon or ARMS characters would be a missed opportunity though.
Where's the option for "Not Daisy?"
Ice Climbers, Wolf, Isaac (from Golden Sun), Inkling, Arms Fighters (like Bowser Jr. changing your skin would alternate between different Arms Fighters with the same moveset), K. Rool, Bomberman, and Geno. Finally if something could be worked out Banjo & Kazooie (though if not, Yooka & Laylee would suffice as well, but not quite as desirable).
Among the list? Shantae, I reckon.
I voted for Alex Olney
Voted twice apparently, forgot to log in. Anyways I'm still hoping for the one day that Rune Factory will join the fray. So, yeah...Xiao Pai. (yup, still love her, lol)
Inklings from Splatoon
Some of these characters would be fun, but I feel like you could do a re-skin with some alternate moves, since most characters have custom moves. Ryu=Ken, Bayonetta=Chun Li, Meta Knight=Tails, Lil' Mac+Meta Knight=Knuckles, Toon Link+Pac-Man=Bomberman, Peach=Daisy, Diddy/Donkey=any Kong, etc,.
What we should have: any character who is in the game, should have their main boss (Mario & Bowser), partner (Fox & Falco), or titular equivalent (FE characters, Ness & Lucas) to add balance.
But for questioning the question, where's Snake? Did he get lost in the mail? Did he not have enough stamps to cover postage?
@SilentS Cloud may not be on Nintendo systems, but he's still in important part of gaming and really Nintendo. Because of how Nintendo had to compete with Sony at the time, MARIO 64, Legend of Zelda Ocarnia of Time, and Banjo Kazooie where born. Which brings me to my point on how Banjo should be the next smash bros challenger. Phil Spencer the Microsoft Boss has alreay told Nintendo that he would love to see Banjo in smash bros. Mario, Cloud, Link and Banjo completely transformed late 90's gaming and it would be amazing to see them duke it out. There's so much you could do with Banjo and it brings back some classic Nintendo to compliment some of the newer challengers like Shulk, Greninja and Robin
Also it'd be cool if they brought back Young Link, but he was based on Majora's Mask Link and they also brought back the ability to transform. So he wouldn't actually appear as Hylian Link, he'd start out as either Deku Link, Goron Link, or Zora Link, and you can transform between the 3 different forms, and then the final smash would of course have him turn into Fierce Deity Link, able to kick all sorts of ass. Not holding my breath on this one, but it'd be so awesome.
Yuck, that list is full of so many third party characters or boring ideas. How about actual Nintendo characters from actual big franchises? It's crazy that with Smash 4 we had no new Zelda or Kirby characters added. I'd love to see Waddle Dee as a playable character and round out the 4 player set from a few of the Kirby games. From Zelda, I feel like Tetra, Ghirahim, or even one of the champions from Breath of the Wild would be more interesting than Young Link, or Skull Kid.
SINce this was what I would LIKE to see rather than what I think will happen I voted Sora.
I think the ability to switch Keyblades, could make him a versatile fighter able to "switch" style based on how you want to play him. Also a movesey that allowed to call in key blade wielding Micky would be pretty awesome.
@Ralizah that's all i really care about, is a blend of the content from both games. i really liked the stages on the 3ds version.
GV from Azure Striker!
Bomberman? Isaac? ... Why? Such dull characters. What would bomberman even do apart from throw bombs? xD
I voted ice climbers as I thought they should've been in the original. Otherwise would probably vote for a metroid character, there are enough iterations of mario and link as it is...
Simon Belmont, Tamagon or Devil, Bomberman, Takamaru, also the guy from Urban Champion as a joke.
I'd love to see Inklings, an ARMS fighter, Ice Climbers, King K Rool, Bomberman, and Shantae.
Also wouldn't be opposed to Decidueye.
@KoopaTheGamer No, all characters original to Kingdom Hearts are owned by The Walt Disney Company. That why there's the (C) Disney trademark for Kingdom Hearts promotional material.
@VENOMVSCARNAGE ignoring the fact that Melee is HORRIBLY unbalanced (fans had to work for awhile on a rom hack just to balance it better), the vast majority of Smash sales are not to competitive gamers - sure, it's popular with competitive gamers, but even more casual people buy it. As that makes up a larger percentage, Nintendo is going to cater to them, hence the continued existence of items. They've started throwing bones to the competitive crowd (like making every stage have an alt version that's basically Final Destination) but ultimately increasing the roster brings in more casual players, shrinking it would lower that, the average casual player cares less if a game is tight and balanced and more that their favorite characters made it into the game.
If you want a game built regularly for the competitive scene, get Street Fighter. Smash is a game Nintendo makes for everyone.
Ganon Blight Forms which transform into Calamity Ganon for Smash Attack
Can someone tell me why people still want Ridley as playable when he's already in the game as part of stage hazard? And so many 3rd party characters.
@ShadJV I love items so much! This is beautifully stated.
I expect to see Ice Climbers, Wolf, Inkling (boy/girl variants), Spring Man and Ribbon Girl. Personally though, I would love to see Sylux from Metroid Prime Hunters in as another Metroid rep, one who is not already in the game as a hazard or assist trophy. I would certainly double dip for those 5 characters being in the roster though, with the combined content of the 3DS and Wii U versions.
@greengecko007 Tetra all the way! Though I'd prefer Susie to enter the fray over Waddle Dee, personally. She could use the Robobot armor!
So many choices...
Personally, I'd really enjoy seeing Fawful added to the game. He could be such an amusing middle/lightweight fighter with moves pulled from Superstar Saga and Inside story.
Other then that, more heavies, less swordfighters, more maps, balancing etc.
Saturdays are for the boys and Skull Kid!
little samson
@AlphaJaguar I find that odd, as the games and original characters are created by Square. Disney hasn't really affected the design of Sora, although Square did give Sora red pants (in the original KH) to please Disney who wanted Mickey Mouse to star in Kingdom Hearts.
But anyway, I'm sure they could work it out. I think it would benefit both Square and Disney to have Sora in Smash.
@PK_Boss11 Important part... Maybe for overrated whiny characters. I couldn't stand him back then, still cant now. So, I guess it would boil down to how you see it? Mario 64, Zelda OoT, Banjo Kazooie... They all would have happened regardless and they all set the standards for gaming. FF7 set no standards, just copied the trend.
But non of that has any baring on my opinion on keeping the requirement to those characters that have previously appeared on Nintendo systems. Sure other IP owners would love to have their characters in Smash Brother, that is obvious because of how immensely popular the franchise is, and how much exposure they would get being apart of it. One way to look at it, it would be a good bargaining chip for Nintendo if played correctly, "If you want to be in Smash, bring them to our system(s)." That could potentially work for any 3rd party IP.
@BlackxWolfie Because people are always super hyped about Metroid and can't think of another Metroid character who appeared in multiple games. You know Dark Samus would be a clone despite the potential not to be. I'd want Gandrayda, personally.
As for third parties, I think the concept of Nintendo collaborating successfully with other companies can be more exciting than using their own library. It's like the newcomer has overcome greater odds to be in Smash, I guess.
@MarketSquareHero ice climbers? Why? Such dull characters. What would ice climbers even do apart from jumping?
Oh wait, they created a move set. And you enjoy them. They could do the same for bomberman. Heck, he could summon Pommy or any of the other little collectible critters from his series.
If I had to choose one character, it would be King K. Rool.
I'd also like to see Dixie Kong, Paper Mario, Inklings, and Skull Kid.
Aside from Paper Mario, my most wanted, I vote Bomberman.
@LArachelDisciple I enjoy items too, I'm not a competitive player, I play for fun. And the rare time I cross paths irl with a competitive player, I can tell as soon as they ask to play with items off and I make a note we won't have much fun playing together, they'll probably take me out before I can even hit them and that doesn't sound fun to me.
People have different skill levels and that okay but the competitive scene is only a fraction of sales, I've nothing wrong with them trying to balance characters but not at the cost of expanding the roster, as that alienates the larger audience.
@VENOMVSCARNAGE
Can't say I agree, because Melee has the worst balancing in a game I have ever seen. It's not uncommon knowledge that Fox and Falco are the best in the game, and almost NO big tournaments ever have any other character take the title. In Smash 4 (which has the highest amount of characters thus far) Nearly every tournament has had a unique character win, including DK and King D.D.D., who are both considered "bad". Why is this? Because it is balanced, and is possibly the most balanced game in Nintendo's library.
Long story short, I don't think a large roster hurts balancing at all, and in fact helps give a wider option for all playstyles, instead of restricting your players to picking only the top 3 characters in the game. (I love both Melee and Sm4sh, they both are my favs, but I even being competitive with Melee, I still know the flaws to it)
She has no chance anymore but thanks for including Krystal.
....B L A S T E R
M A S T E R !
I want Prof. E. Gadd and Mallow from Pushmo. Duh.
@VENOMVSCARNAGE There is literally only 6 playable characters in Melee that competitive people use. Also Melee was popular because of glitches and it's physics. I argue Smash 4 is the best in the series because of its physics and way more balanced character, let me put it this way, Melee is Double Dash, Smash 4 is Kart 8, and Brawl is Kart Wii.
Shantae and Shovel Knight are also good candidates for smash.
@ZeldaFan50 So that makes the original Smash, Kart 64?
@umegames 3DS version had better stages and modes, but the Wii U version had more extras and a better presentation. Switch version could combine these and we'd have the ultimate Smash experience.
Skull Kid, one of the best Zelda Villains besides Ganon. Or Saki from Sin & Punishment. Either would be a nice addition.
How about Missing No., the infamous hidden glitch pokemon?
Not having the great and powerful Captain Toad in the polls is sacrilege!
Where's my boy Toad at? It's time for him to crawl out from under Peache's dress and stand his own ground.
I voted for an ARMS character. I wish they could add Geno and Mallow though.
Oh God not this again.
Picked Inkling just because I couldn't think of anything else I'd rather see. Squirtle is an option, but it was odd how it played in Brawl. Had virtually no easy kill potential at all. And Sora is just an absurd choice seeing as he's from a crossover...
I voted Shovel Knight; good fan favorite, would probably work well, and wouldn't need a new amiibo.
And, like, I get why people are saying "whoa, this is too many to be competitively viable" but...what about the players who don't care about "competitively viable?" It's Smash Brothers and a big draw is also people who just want to pick their favorite and have a blast. And, listen, if that means some random person gets to play as Isaac from Golden Sun or Daisy or Ridley or whoever and be thrilled then I for one am all for this.
@crimsontadpoles Had a tough time deciding on Rayman or Shovel Knight. I voted for Rayman for the Wii U version, so I did here again.
I had to go with Rawk Hawk from Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door. Other than that I'd go Issac from Golden Sun, or a CO from Advance Wars.
I want Inklings and a new Zelda character
Isaac from Binding of Isaac, but not Golden Sun's...?
Completely missed Golden Sun's Isaac as including Binding's Isaac threw me off due to thinking I had included them both! Oh well - it's too late to add him now, but there's always the "Other" field
Aaaarrrrgh, enough of SSB3U already. It's all we've heard about for 3 years on 2 platforms. Can't we just kill this thing already? It's had its day. It seems like it was wiiu's signature game but had more life on 3ds. We're getting an all new fighting IP on Switch. Let's have new games. Or at least a new smash with a real solo campaign like SSE. Enough of this one!!!
(When do preorders go up? )
Splatoon, ARMS and BotW characters. But remove the Wii Fit instructor for God's sake. How stupid was that inclusion...
I wanna cut half the roster for completely new characters.
-Strikers Football Daisy.
-Dark Samus.
-Jill Drill Dozer
-Wolf Link and Midna
-Hector
-Floating Unique Ganondorf
-Any random character that can do Smash attacks in the air.
-A character or two that have the ability to Wave dash.
-Buffed Puff
Because this game has no variety. It's supposed to be about picking a character to fit your playstyle, Sakurai said. But what's the point if Cloud out classes Ike in every way. When Sakurai said he thinks of characters movesets under one night, it shows he doesn't plan with any of the other devs to create a unique roster for even casual play. All sword characters Fair is a vertical slash, all Uair's are genuinely kicks, all Dair's either multi-hit, or meteor (Excluding Metanight).
Simon Belmont would be great. Mr Resetti could be a fun and interesting choice too.
BOMBERMAN
I chose Mr. Resetti because I'd like to hear his taunts.
Come on Viewtiful Joe! Capcom already helped making the last Smash Bros, let's include another Capcom character. And let's see a Viewtiful Joe game on the Switch!
An ARMS fighter (or three!) and Inkling needs to happen anyhow, but for me the creative vote has to go with Isaac or Shantae or Shovel Knight. Or Birdo. Or Rayman.
I just can't decide which! Aaarrrrrgh! Damn you NintendoLife for only giving one vote... damn you......!!!! (Shakes fist at sky!)
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[EDIT]: Riiiight, my choice isn't an option, but I want... JUAN from Guacamelee!. Or Flame Face. Okay, back to the drawing board
As unlikely as it is, I hope there is a mode more along the lines of Subspace, which I enjoyed thoroughly.
I'll be in total dismay if the characters from Brawl (Snake especially) don't return, as well as Ice Climbers.
Inklings hands down.
I can't believe Pepsiman isn't on here, his anime can beat any fire emblem anime any day
I voted Solid Snake, though I'd rather have Venom Snake! Also I'd like Dark Samus and Zero (Mega Man X).
Anyone else think Alm and/or Celica are likely?
Where is Goku?
I just hope that if we get an ARMS character it isn't spring man or to a lesser extent ribbon girl. Pretty much every character that came after was cooler than them.
@Giygas_95 Definitely likely because Sakurai has a weird Fire Emblem obsession.
@WaveBoy I'd prefer a completely new entry with all past characters (possibly excluding Pichu) returning and a massive number of newcomers. And Subspace 2.
I reckon Eggman would be a solid character. Otherwise, I've got fingers crossed for James Bond, as unlikely as that will be (Sakurai considered him for Melee so why not? :/)
Waluigi!
@KingOfTheFools If he does add more FE characters I hope he picks Hector or Ephraim. An axe lord would be cool, as would a Lance lord. Also Ephraim is my favorite Fire Emblem character.
@Giygas_95 I think Tiki would be cool.
Very alarming how low Snake is placed among the choices. Does NintendoLife place its choices to influence results? VERY SUSPICIOUS.
Akuma from SF (coming with an amiibo), and the iconic Alex Kidd from Sega( sure, with a amiibo either )
@jedisquidward Snake sucks, i would vote if it was for The Boss
I'm late to the party but why no Viewtiful Joe?
I still want Shantae for the game.
Or Rusty (steamworld dig), or Gunvolt. But they already appeared on Runbow. I think we'll get an Arms fighter.
I voted other for Travis Touchdown, a sword wielded could promote his upcoming game, & for those who say he's to rude...Bayonetta says hello!
Isaac from Golden Sun was the first who came up my mind. But I'd also love Sora from Kingdom Hearts who got mentioned by some.
I also like the idea of an Monster Hunter, but they don't really have a personality. If there is the chance for more Monster Hunter content in Smash, a stage would fit better, I think.
I'm going to cheat by not asking for a new character, but instead by saying that Pac-Man should come back, and this time, there should be alt costumes for his family (Ms Pac, Jr. Pac, etc) and the stage representing the series should be from the Pac-Man World games.
Isaac (Golden Sun), the heroic trio of Secret of Mana or Ark from Terranigma. We need more older heroes!
Katt from Breath of Fire 2 would be awesome as well!
Shovel Knight is #1 but I also want Rayman, Inkling, and K. Rool.
@LArachelDisciple I personally think Sylux, Anthony Higgs, Gandrayda and Adam would fit perfectly, but I just don't think Ridley would be right as playable.
As for 3rd parties, that's completely understandable, but I just don't want people get the wrong idea that all 3rd party characters (or character(s) from the same series) should go to smash series, otherwise it wouldn't be call Nintendo All-Star Battle.
I still would love to see Simon Belmont in Smash. All of his whip skills and sub weapons would make for a perfect Smash fighter. He could have several skins, like one to match his original design and one to match his Mirror of Fate design and color swaps of both.
Take his Mirror of Fate moveset- long, sweeping attacks and slams - add in his famous classic subweapons (holy water, cross boomerang, daggers, axe, etc) making him a versatile midrange attacker. Make him moderately heavy (probably Samus or Mario heavy, but not Bowser heavy) and give him a weak Up-B to balance him out, and there's a lot of room for him to be a top tier fighter. Plus Castlevania has such importance in Nintendo's early history, I think he's perfect.
@MoonKnight7 If the ports serve as stop gaps and do not replace new entries, I'm fine with them. Them being replacements is where I would take issue.
Always wanted Professor Layton, but I voted for Simon Belmont.
Golden Sun's Isaac for me, that hasn't changed.
If I had more than one vote I'd probably go for Banjo & Kazooie and Phoenix Wright though.
Where is Issac from golden sun
@SilentS Ok apparently you don't know but originally FF7 was supposed to come out on the N64, but then came out on the PS instead. Also, FF7 came out in 1997 before Banjo and Kazooie and Legend of Zelda OoT. MARIO 64 came out in 1996.
Now Microsoft and Rare are much more deserving to have a smash challenger over any of these indie companies who hold Shovel Knight and Shantae. Banjo is a big part of Nintendo history and should absolutely be included. And maybe Microsoft wants to use this as a promo, and that's fine. I think all parties want to see this franchise resurface, since they haven't had a title since Nuts and Bolts almost a decade ago now. I think all parties win and Banjo would be a great challenger to use
I feel like it would have been better to just have a text field that suggested characters based on what you typed (basically just the other field and nothing else), that way nobody would get an advantage from being more visible.
Still want Klonoa
We need the Ice Climbers back! I just hope the switch is powerful to handle the Ice Climbers. I don't want a repeat of ssb4.
Storm the Albatross (Sonic Riders) w/ Type S Extreme Gear.
@Dizzard Hmm yeah, possibly - but at the same time you could argue more favourites might have been missed due to people forgetting!
I voted for Banjo-Kazooie, I know it is a Microsoft IP now, but Banjo Kazooie home and soul is at Nintendo.
I would like to see Xena or Hercules. Love them both
Dixie and Daisie should be a no brainer.
Then...
Rayman
Bomberman
Simon Belmont
and how about Guile just so we can get his theme in there?
@VENOMVSCARNAGE
Melee is not balanced at all. Only 6 characters are viable, and most are clones. Why? The game was rushed. And character roster doesn't affect balance. Like everyone else said, Smash 4 is very balanced and most characters are viable. Not to mention that patches are a thing and exploits can be fixed immediately. Your argument has been invalidated multiple times.
So many good choices to pick from but still think we get a announcement for smash 5 out in 2019
Wonder Red!
Geno!
Realistically it's almost obvious that the Inklings and Spring Man would take the spots as playable characters in Smash Switch. But the character I really want to see is Professor Layton.
I think the only reason we haven't seen the Professor in Smash yet is probably because it would be hard to make his stages unique from the rest. But then again, Layton hasn't appeared in any form in any previous Smash game... probably because Sakurai hasn't even noticed he exists. Hopefully the ballot gave him a clue that he's somewhat popular - if not niche - and deserves a spot in Smash.
@ShadJV Touché
God dammit I thought this was news.
I went with Rayman. I wouldn't mind if Daisy, Shantae, Shovel Knight or a Mortal Kombat character made the cut either.
@VENOMVSCARNAGE how is the game unbalanced?
As it currently it stands, sm4sh is pretty balanced considering over 50 characters.
Wonder Red. Easily.
@VENOMVSCARNAGE Project M is much more well balanced, and far more of the characters are actually viable, whereas Melee has maybe 7 or 8 viable characters. Melee makes for great tournament play, but it is hugely unbalanced except for those few. Project M would have been a great successor, but... well... Nintendo thought otherwise.
Bomberman for sure. He's been there since the NES, and has received tens of entries across every major Nintendo console to date. He even had his own game on the Virtual Boy! (Panic Bomber)
With the history that Bomberman has on Nintendo consoles, which continues to this day, there is no more deserving entry for a new Smash fighter.
Voted for Krystal because we need more cool females from franchises other than Mario and Fire Emblem.
@VENOMVSCARNAGE I think less characters also means LESS STUPID CLONES so yeah I'm all for it.
What kind of lousy poll is this? 3 Sonic characters, no Isaac from Golden Sun, yet Isaac from the Binding of Isaac's there?! Please... Anyway, here's a list of characters I want.
Honorable Mentions: the return of the Ice Climbers and Wolf
1.) Ridley (Metroid)
2.) Isaac (Golden Sun)
3.) Marshal (Rhythm Heaven Fever)
4.) Banjo-Kazooie (owned by Rare/Microsoft)
5.) Takamaru (The Mysterious Murasame Castle)
6.) Krystal (Star Fox)
7.) Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby)
8.) Starfy (The Legendary Starfy)
9.) Toad/Captain Toad (Super Mario)
10.) Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong)
11.) Sukapon/Skapon (Joy Mech Fight)
12.) Balloon Fighter (Balloon Fight)
13.) Dillon (Dillon's Rolling Western)
14.) Decidueye (Pokémon)
15.) Mach Rider
16.) Impa (The Legend of Zelda)
17.) Muddy (Mole Mania)
18.) N (Pokémon)
19.) King K. Rool
20.) Paper Mario
21.) Inklings (Splatoon)
22.) Sceptile (Pokémon)
23.) Fighter Hayabusa (Pro Wrestling)
24.) Waluig (Mario/Wario)
25.) Dark Matter (Kirby)
26.) Lip (Panel de Pon)
27.) Shovel Knight (owned by Yacht Club Games)
28.) Mr. Stevenson (Gumeshoe)
29. ) Mii Spellcaster/Sorcerer/Wizard (another Mii Fighter)
30.) F-Type (Stunt Racer FX)
31.) Geno (Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars, owned by Square Enix)
32.) Cranky Kong (Donkey Kong)
33.) Bomberman/White Bomber (owned by Konami, formerly Hudson Soft)
34.) Mike Jones (StarTropics)
35.) Captain Rainbow
36.) Ray (Custom Robo)
37.) Chibi-Robo
38.) Andy (Advance Wars)
39.) Urban Champ (Urban Champion)
40.) Lark (Pilotwings 64)
41.) Simon Belmont (Castlevania, owned by Konami)
42.) Samurai Goroh (F-Zero)
43.) Pokey/Porky Minch (EarthBound)
44.) Kamek (Yoshi/Mario)
45.) Tingle (The Legend of Zelda)
46.) Anna (Fire Emblem)
47.) Jill (Drill Dozer)
48.) Eddy (Fluidity)
49.) Saki Amamiya (Sin & Punishment)
50.) Spring Man/Ribbon Girl (ARMS)
Bomberman, without a doubt! That's been my dream since I was like 6 years old or whatever and first played Melee. I remember blindly believing "leaks" of him back in the pre-Brawl days and being so sad afterwards. I would probably cry joyful tears if he was announced and would main him instantly. As far as first party characters (with more of a shot), I'd most like to see K. Rool, Bandana Dee, or Dixie Kong. A Splatoon or Arms character would be cool too of course.
BRING BACK SNAKE AND HIS LEVEL FROM BRAWL AND THE POKÉMON TRAINER AND ICE CLIMBERS
@ogo79 I would love to see some love for Little Samson. Such a great game.
I honestly want Bomberman in this game. He's been one of my favorite 3rd party characters since forever.
Captain N would be such a fantastic retro throw back that would just be for the biggest fans. If not him, Bonk. Most likely though, it would be an ARMs fighter or something they can cross promote, like Corrin from Fire Emblem Fates.
It's gotta be Sylux from Metroid, Smash needs another Metroid character, preferably an enemy character and Sylux fits the card perfectly with not being "too big" and not being a "clone", plus the fact that he was there at the end of Coruption and Fed Force, likely setting the plot for the next Prime game. The only other character that I think would be a good pick from Metroid is Weavel.
Genji! Overwatch is huge. It would be awesome to have an OW character in smash.
I'd rather just have a new smash. We don't need more ports.
I'd love Ridley but since they'll probably give the " it's too big excuse" (while steroids pikachu is there for everyone to see and many other characters that have random height) then I would go for Shovel Knight because of the love that has been dedicated to the character, unique gameplay and cool design, besides other knights could also be added to the roster. Wolf and Snake returning would be an improbable dream come true (at least from Snake's part, who's unlikely to return, Wolf has a good chance).
Seriously, Nintendo needs to stop ignoring Metroid, and at least give more characters to the game and maybe... even revive it and make it more famous than it ever was and it always deserved.
I figure Inklings are guaranteed to get in due to their new game, so I would go with Shadow the Hedgehog. Honestly I'd prefer Silver more, but he doesn't deserve to get in nearly as much.
Hope they bring Wolf back. And for those saying they want Cloud gone...as a Cloud main I have seen evidence time and again to prove he isn't nearly as overpowered as everyone says he is. But if the port does happen, don't count on him being removed, or anyone else for that matter. It would make absolutely no sense to decrease the existing roster of a port.
@Hikingguy PRAY! PRAY! PLAY!!!.....I think my avatar agrees with Ristar being in SMASH = YEEah!
Ice climbers would be a nice return too.
Goemon from mystical ninja would be a perfect fit for the smash bros universe ! He has the look he has the moves and he even has a final smash IMPACT!
Keep Roy and I don't care what they do.
Shovel knight
@ZurapiiYohane Klonoa would be amazing, along with a new game!
@MarcelRguez @BlackxWolfie @locky-mavo I'm glad there are more individuals that at least acknowledge Sylux as a potential Metroid rep for Smash. @locky-mavo, you're perfect.
I think Metroid will continue to be represented just by Samus and Zero Suit Samus until more fans get behind Sylux, who has been pretty much used throughout the last decade of Metroid games to try and build up the series' future. Sylux has already been playable before, so I think the transition to Smash will be much easier than trying to make boss characters, such as Dark Samus and Ridley, work. Not just that, Sakurai has clearly already defined Dark Samus as an assist trophy and Ridley as a stage hazard/boss. They're not going to be made playable, not while he is taking care of Smash, so they seem like throwaway suggestions for a Metroid rep at this point. Personally, I'm fine with Metroid being ignored for additional Smash reps if those are the options being overwhelmingly pushed. They just don't make much sense given their boss roles in the franchise and their current identity within the Smash games.
I'd love to see Shantae and Shovel Knight in the game. Realistically though, if any character gets added to the roster it would be an Inkling.
#Banjo4Smash
I voted Bomberman, since he deserves it more than anyone. He has been on every last Nintendo console, INCLUDING the Virtual Boy, EXCEPT 3DS and WiiU. That is a long history.
I voted for Shantae. Other ones I thought were good ideas include: Chun-Li, Axel Stone.
Names not mentioned: Sveta (Golden Sun: Dark Dawn) and Dr. Robotnik (or Eggman if you prefer).
Pierce Brosnand! Or a terrorist from Counter Strike.
I'd love to see Shantae appear in the game.
Axel Stone all the way just because somebody needs to resurrect this IP in some way..
Been waaaaaaaaaay too long since a Streets of Rage game
Streets of Rage 4, built using similar mechanic to Batman: Arkham Asylum with full online multiplayer co-op would be even better.
Bomberman! That would be a fun, unique character. Shovel Knight would be my next option. An Inkling will probably be added.
I reckon Arms fighters would be sick... Maybe the main is spring boy with different costumes for the rest of the players with different stats and maybe some slightly varied specials (Slightly similar to how the koopalings all play slightly differently)
Out of those listed, my vote goes for Simon Belmont - would be unique with potential for some brilliant special moves, and his level and music would be fantastic!
@I-U Yup, that was pretty much the reason why I chose him, but gets second place behind Dark Samus because it feels a tad bit too early for him to appear in the game. Maybe after Prime 4 or whatever.
Dark Samus I prioritized because of seniority and precisely because she's an assist trophy already. Remember Little Mac?
Saw Daisy, ticked the box, then saw Chrono, immediately ticked it.
Which reminded me of Schala from Chrono Trigger (NOT Chrono Cross), who is my favourite video game character for some reason.
Nobody knows her but I'd love to have her in a SSB.
Andy from advance wars
I put my vote in for Impa, specifically I want her Hyrule Warriors incarnation, with the huge ass sword.
My second choice would have been Krystal. I know people aren't fans of SFA, but Star Fox could do with some unique characters.
Giving Krystal her staff would offer some amazing possibility's, her main attack would be the traditional staff moves, while the alts can be the staff's magic, rocket for recovery, fire for ranged, down could be earthquake.
I really hope we get a new one instead of a "Deluxe" version. Professor Layton, King K.Rool, Bomberman, a fighter from Arms, Endou Mamoru from Inazuma eleven, those would all be great!
Professor Layton
Nell from advance wars.
You said we can get crazy. How about the Ninja Turtles with skins to swap between them all.
@Claytonbob Great suggestion!
@Yalaa
You might want to give that a second thought. Melee by far has the largest percentage of clones in the roster. Why? It was rushed. Only 11 months of development. Sakurai really wanted a lot of characters, which explains why almost half of Melee's roster are clones. Luigi and Dr. Mario are Mario Clones, Young Link is clone of Link, Pichu is clone of Pikachu, etc. Hell, nobody expected Ganondorf to be a Captain Falcon clone.
Just as long as Sakurai has time, he can make more original characters.
@KoopaTheGamer If you see the copyright information, it clearly states "(C) Disney, Developed by Square Enix". This basically means that Square Enix have full creative rights on how the direction of the franchise should go (with consultation by Disney), however, the property itself is wholly-owned by Disney. Think of Kingdom Hearts like DuckTales or Mickey's Castle of Illusion, they're developed by Capcom and Sega respectively, but Disney wholly-own the rights to those video games.
Snake!!!
That was really hard. There were several I wanted on that list and to only pick one...
@NintendoAllStars Well, not everyone can be as good as Alex Kidd.
@VENOMVSCARNAGE if melee is so balanced how come it's almost always fox, falco, Marth most of the time, and then smash 4 your seeing DK, link, and captain falcon in top 8 at one of the toughest tournaments for smash 4 ever due to so many high level players. So by the logic presented when less characters are dominating (melee) that makes it balanced? I guess it depends on the definition of balanced... I wouldn't call that balanced
But "consistent results with top tier characters" Smash 4 scene is doing pretty good actually... probably because there is no tripping lol...
@SM4SHshorts If they're so forgettable they can't be much of a favourite though.
@Dizzard I thought that too, but I guess sometimes you need to have it in front of you to realise that's the guy/gal you want! E.g. I've always wanted Knuckles/Bomberman/Ken, but when I saw a mention of Sceptile and how he fits in from a Poké Starter standpoint, I became attached to the idea!
There's lots of characters I'd make my case for, but these I can almost taste appearing:
Bomberman
Splatoon characters
ARMS characters
Shovelknight
Gunvolt
Vote for Purple Tentacle!
As the man, er, beast?, proclaimed:
Humans are our oppressors! They made us live in this horrible motel! They created us in ungainly forms so we could not rise against them! Try walking around with your legs tied together and glue on your shoes, you'll see what I mean!
@VENOMVSCARNAGE Since when is Melee balanced? lmao the meta in that game has been pretty standard for well over a decade now. There's probably more memes about Melee's balance than any other fighting game. That said, I still love it to death, and put way too many hours into it. I get what you mean though, it's much easier to test and balance less than more, but that's a given.
Shantae is who I voted for, but here's a list of other characters I think should get in:
1) Waluigi
2) Ice Climbers
3) Rayman
4) Dixie Kong
5) Bomberman
6) Inkling
7) ARMS fighter
8) King K. Rool
9) Knuckles
10) Goku
Of course we would probably get all the DLC from the original game.
It's funny how no matter how many characters they add I find myself playing as Kirby. He will always be my favourite ^.^
Unpopular opinion: they shouldn't add any new characters for smash switch. This is my selfish competitive smash logic: if they add new characters, then the community will be split between people who have the switch version and people who, at this point, physically cannot obtain a switch. How awful would this be for the community? I, being a switch owner, move to the Switch version, but most of my friends are still stuck on wii u until they too can make the "switch". It would be great if we got the new characters added as DLC to the Wii U version, but Nintendo would be stupid to do that because of how many wii u owners would buy a switch just for smash. I just see new characters as being a rift in the Smash 4 community that we really don't need right now that the scene is developing so much.
that being said, I would lose my mind if shovel knight were added into smash
Since we got a Square-Enix character in the last one (Cloud), I think we should get another. I say Tiz Arrior from Bravely Default with the others as skins. Maybe have it so he can transform into different jobs that do different things. Monk for speed, Knight for damage, White mage for damage negation and maybe he can have a charged self heal?(It would have to have some kind of drawback), and Black mage for ranged.
Anything but Geno :3. Yes, I'm partially trolling, but edgy Pinochio is easily one of the most overrated video game characters.
And I can't stop laughing at people who want fewer characters because of balance. Around a 1/4 of the melee cast if viable in top 8 at tournaments and usually you see less than that. Smash 4 isn't much better...but with 3X the characters. So if devs can't figure balance out, I'd rather have more characters than fewer.
@MarcelRguez Punch Out! had another entry following Brawl, and Little Mac is a character that has a future as the main protagonist of that Punch-Out IP. I wouldn't mind Dark Samus as a playable character in Smash, but not over a character in the Metroid Series that is being built up to appear again. Now if both could be in, I think that would be ideal. Honor Dark Samus' role throughout the Prime Series while honoring what's coming next. Sylux was behind the scenes, but he has been in 3 Prime games, just like Dark Samus and he has been set up to come back into the spotlight.
Sans
I really just wish they would get rid of every character other than those from the Fire Emblem series. Then add like 800 more Fire Emblem characters. All of them using swords. Because that was TOTALLY SERIOUSLY NOT BEING SARCASTIC HONESTLY NOT MAKING A DUMB JOKE HERE my favorite part about the only Smash Brothers game I've ever owned. Also I wish they wouldn't put so many damn Fire Emblem characters with swords in the game.
Scorpion from MK would be nice.
AYYYYYYYY vote for Reckless Safety Notice Man
@MK_SmashFan Goku from Famicom Mukashibanashi: Yūyūki? An odd, obscure choice, but I fully approve!
i want rayman in smash
Nintendo is running out of credible 3rd party characters when you think about it. One void that has yet to be filled are characters that came from outside of Japan. As much as I like to play Shovel Knight & Shantae, why should they have such honors? Not many western franchises have stood the test of time & have had a vast history on Nintendo platforms, but there have been two from different regions, that being Ubisoft's Rayman & Scorpion from Mortal Kombat.
@MarcelRguez I hope not, at least not until the game has been out for a while & has the chance to sell well a la Splatoon.
I have a question guys. How exactly does the amiibos work with smash bros.? I have the cloud advent children amiibo for pre order and if i use this with the game does it unlock the content so i can play as cloud or do i still need to purchase the dlc?
Scorpion from Mortal Kombat would be the best.
guys pljz vote fore chun-li knuckles shadow and ice climbers pliz
@garydbz25 Unfortunately not. All DLC characters need to be bought in-game, and Smash amiibo simply give you a "sparring partner" to battle with or against. So I guess you kind of get him in the game, but you yourself won't be able to play as him, no. Hope that helps!
I just want Magikarp.
I want Scorpion (Mortal Kombat)
My boi Geno from SMRPG better be there or it'll cause "Geno" cide!! get it...? I'm gonna go now...
I know this is old but I just though about Piranha Plant. He could bite, shoot fireballs, crush people with his pot etc.
The characters that I would like to see in
Super Smash Bros Switch:
Veteran Characters: Everyone from SSB4 including DLC characters except for Dr. Mario, Lucina, Dark Pit, Toon Link, Bayonetta, Alph,
Larry Koopa, Roy Koopa, Wendy Koopa, Iggy Koopa, Morton Koopa,
Lemmy Koopa, and Ludwig Koopa
New Characters
1. Decidueye (Pokemon) 2. Captain Toad (Mario) 3. Geno (Mario)
4. Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong) 5. King K. Rool (Donkey Kong)
6. Tails (Sonic) 7. Amy (Sonic) 8. Knuckles (Sonic)
9. Shadow (Sonic) 10. Impa (Zelda) 11. Lana (Zelda)
12. Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby) 13. Krystal (Starfox) 14. Wolf (Starfox)
15. Samurai Goroh (F-Zero) 16. Ryoma (Fire Emblem)
17. Rex (Xenoblade Chronicles 2) 18. Isaac (Golden Sun)
19. Takamaru (Murasame Castle) 20. Inkling (Splatoon)
21. Spring Man (ARMS) 22. Ribbon Girl (ARMS) 23. Ninjara (ARMS)
24. Bomberman (Bomberman) 25. Ice Climber (Ice Climber)
26. Proto Man (Mega Man)
Super Smash Bros Switch All-Star Mode
Round 1
Mr. Game & Watch (April 28, 1980)*
Pac-Man (May 22, 1980)
Mario (July 9, 1981)
Donkey Kong (July 9, 1981)
Luigi (July 14, 1983)
Bomberman (July 1983)
Little Mac (February 1984)
Duck Hunt (April 21, 1984)*
Round 2
Ice Climber (January 30, 1985)
R.O.B. (July 26, 1985)*
Peach (September 13, 1985)
Bowser (September 13, 1985)
Link (February 21, 1986)
Zelda (February 21, 1986)
Impa (February 21, 1986)*
Takamaru (April 14, 1986)*
Samus (August 6, 1986)
Round 3
Pit (December 19, 1986)
Palutena (December 19, 1986)
Ryu (August 30, 1987)*
Mega Man (December 17, 1987)
Marth (April 20, 1990)
Proto Man (September 28, 1990)*
Yoshi (November 21, 1990)
Captain Falcon (November 21, 1990)
Samurai Goroh (November 21, 1990)
Round 4
Sonic (June 23, 1991)
Kirby (April 27, 1992)
King Dedede (April 27, 1992)
Tails (October 16, 1992)
Wario (October 21, 1992)
Fox (February 21, 1993)
Falco (February 21, 1993)
Round 5
Meta Knight (March 23, 1993)
Amy (September 23, 1993)
Knuckles (February 2, 1994)
Ness (August 27, 1994)
Diddy Kong (November 21, 1994)
King K. Rool (November 21, 1994)*
Dixie Kong (November 20, 1995)
Round 6
Pikachu (February 27, 1996)
Jigglypuff (February 27, 1996)
Charizard (February 27, 1996)
Mewtwo (February 27, 1996)
Geno (March 9, 1996)*
Bandana Waddle Dee (March 21, 1996)
Cloud (January 31, 1997)*
Round 7
Wolf (April 27, 1997)*
Sheik (November 21, 1998)
Ganondorf (November 21, 1998)
Villager (April 14, 2001)
Shadow (June 23, 2001)*
Isaac (August 1, 2001)
Olimar (October 26, 2001)
Roy (November 21, 2001)*
Round 8
Bowser Jr. (July 19, 2002)*
Krystal (September 23, 2002)
Zero Suit Samus (February 9, 2004)
Ike (April 20, 2005)
Lucas (April 20, 2006)
Lucario (September 28, 2006)
Round 9
Captain Toad (November 1, 2007)
Rosalina (November 1, 2007)
Wii Fit Trainer (December 1, 2007)
Shulk (June 10, 2010)
Robin (April 19, 2012)
Greninja (October 12, 2013)
Lana (August 14, 2014)
Round 10
Inkling (May 28, 2015)
Corrin (June 25, 2015)
Ryoma (June 25, 2015)
Decidueye (November 18, 2016)
Spring Man (June 16, 2017)
Ribbon Girl (June 16, 2017)
Ninjara (June 16, 2017)*
Rex (Winter 2017)
Mii Fighters (Not in all-star)
Mii Brawler
Mii Swordfighter
Mii Gunner
Secret Characters (* above)
1. Takamaru (Complete 10 vs. matches)
2. Bowser Jr. (Complete 20 vs. matches)
3. Roy (Complete 30 vs. matches)
4. King K. Rool (Complete 40 vs. matches)
5. Ryu (Complete 50 vs. matches)
6. R.O.B. (Complete 60 vs. matches)
7. Impa (Complete 70 vs. matches)
8. Ninjara (Complete 80 vs. matches)
9. Mr. Game & Watch (Complete 90 vs. matches)
10. Cloud (Complete 100 vs. matches)
11. Wolf (Complete 110 vs. matches)
12. Geno (Complete 120 vs. matches)
13. Duck Hunt (Complete 130 vs. matches)
14. Proto Man (Complete 140 vs. matches)
15. Shadow (Complete 150 vs. matches)
I would like to see Young Link return, such a classic and great character
SCR-GP
My list is weird.
Gunvolt, A terraria npc, Shovel Knight, ICE CLIMBERS, Dovahkiin?, Champion Link, Bandana Dee, Xander and Ryoma.
Stages:
Mirror, Overworld, Order of No Quarter stage rush?, Sovngarde, Divine Beast Rush?, Bottomles Canyon.
Told you so.
I would love to see YO-KAI WATCH CHARACTERS in SMASH BROS 5 FOR NINTENDO SWITCH
Toriel from undertale
Ridley.
I would like the gungeoneers from enter the gungeon (all in one character just as alts) last would be: Marine, Pilot, Convict, Hunter, Cultist, Bullet, Robot, Lich
@Jumpman Nice
I hope Sakuari makes this the best smash bros game ever
Characters I wish to see:
Waluigi
Rayman
Shadow ( From Sonic The Hedgehog)
Tails ( From Sonic the Hedgehog)
Knuckles (From Sonic the Hedgehog)
Zero ( From Megaman X)
Ken (Street Fighter)
Bison ( Street Fighter)
Akuma ( Street Fighter)
Spiderman
Wolverine
Captain America
Hulk
Iron man
Magneto
Juggernaut
Black heart
Shuma Gorath
Doctor Doom
Thanos
Liu Kang ( From Mortal Kombat)
Rayden ( From Mortal Kombat)
Scorpion ( From Mortal Kombat)
Subzero ( From Mortal Kombat
Kyo ( From King of Fighters)
Ryo ( From King of fighters)
Terry ( From King of fighters)
Geese ( From King of Fighters)
Rugal ( From King of Fighters)
And everyone from Super Smash Bros 4
Posted Selena from fire emblem awakening and fates and knuckles form sonic the hedgehog
Krystal from star fox assault and phantom gannondorf I would like to see as secret characters in super smash Bros ultimate
Krystal and shadow gannondorf I would like to see in super smash Bros ultimate
Krystal and shadow gannondorf I would like to see make a appearance as secret characters in super smash Bros ultimate
Krystal and shadow gannondorf I would like to see in super smash Bros ultimate as secret characters
Krystal and shadow gannondorf
Shadow for smash
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