Nintendo has released the official translations of its recent investor's Q & A, which re-iterates a number of points previously covered, namely that the company won't put those dreaming of a 3DS successor out of their misery by confirming either way, and that everything is awesome - don't worry, it's all going to be ok.
Sadly there were no comedy questions from investors complaining about the venue or the lack of a buffet, or if they were asked they weren't published by Nintendo.
Beyond some promising remarks around the partnership with NVIDIA helping with ports of PC-centric projects - which is obvious but nevertheless nice to hear - the Q & A closed with a question posed directly to company President Tatsumi Kimishima. He was asked about his goals in terms of preparing and identifying a successor to lead the company, and he moved on to outline his desire to place the company on a firm footing, in order to move forward with confidence.
I believe that my personal role is to consider how to create an internal structure that will allow Nintendo to continue to release entertaining products in the future.
When I took on the President position, it was still too early to reveal the full details of Nintendo Switch, our smart-device business and our efforts to use Nintendoʼs IP. I have been working with both Fellows since then to make sure that these business ventures could get off to a successful start.
We have to bring in the next generation to ensure the continuity of the company into the future, so it is important to create an organizational structure where young people can take on more responsibility and flourish. This is true not only in considering my own successor, but in regards to all of the organizations and structures within the company, and one of my main roles is to create that type of system.
I believe Nintendo constantly needs to undertake new endeavors. The integrated hardware and software business is at the heart of Nintendoʼs business and I believe it is important that we continue our strong commitment to that business, but it is also my mission to expand the smart-device and Nintendo IP businesses, and to find and nurture the seeds of new entertainment experiences as new technologies emerge.
Nintendo has plenty of talented employees and leaders in each department who oversee these employees. I think it is my responsibility to find a person who will be able to oversee those leaders and who will be skilled at running the overall organization.
That aside, the company has certainly reshaped itself in interesting ways, as Kimishima-san didn't attempt to inherit the hands-on leadership of Satoru Iwata. As an executive with greater expertise in core business he established 'Fellow' roles for Shigeru Miyamoto (Creative) and Genyo Takeda (Technical), allowing them to oversee broad areas suited to their expertise. By extension, Miyamoto-san and Takeda-san have also previously emphasized their roles in nurturing and developing young talent at the company. Elsewhere in the Q & A, Miyamoto-san shared his desire for Nintendo's employees to all truly understand "Nintendoʼs DNA".
In terms of planning for the future and ensuring the company's core values and beliefs are maintained, there's reason for Nintendo fans to be optimistic that pieces are being put in place.
[source nintendo.co.jp]
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I have zero faith in this guy. Got this feeling that he's all talk, but ain't going to deliver squat.
His statement that he believes that the Switch will sell 100 million units made him even more of a joke.
I think the guy is doing a pretty good job considering the massive task he had to take on. We've already seen a very different and better approach with the marketing for the switch as well as Nintendo trying to use their IP in other ways including a theme park and mobile games. I honestly think he is doing a good job and we should praise him for that.
@Yasume
At its core the Switch is a handheld, Nintendo handhelds are good for at least 50 mil units and if the company plays its cards correctly 100 mil or more is certainly not out of the question.
@Yasume
I believe in him, Mr. Tatsumi Kimishima. Well, at least he looks better (Working performance) than Mr. Reggie. I believe Satoru Iwata is watching from above, blessing him with great ideas of business strategies. Just wait and see.
@Gamer83
A lot is going to depend on the availability of units. If they are dribbled out it can mess with the scheme.
@k8sMum
Sure that could mess things up, but Nintendo pulled that 'limited supplies' nonsense with the original Wii as well and it still hit 100 mil with ease.
He's doing great so far. Nintendo seems more aggressive this time around, and I like it.
@Gamer83 this is just silly to assert:
"Nintendo handhelds are good for at least 50 mil units and if the company plays its cards correctly 100 mil or more is certainly not out of the question."
@gatorboi352
How so?
@Gamer83 Lmao, I'm sorry, but anyone who believes that this system will sell more than 20mil is out of his mind. Personally I think it will have a hard time beating the Wii U.
100mil isn't possible anymore in this day and age. Wii was a fluke. It's never going to happen again. The casuals have their tablets and phones now.
Giving more leadership positions to younger developers is crucial. Nintendo's leadership is aging and it's harming the company.
@Yasume Having a bad day or something? 😓
Doesn't matter how much he tries to smile in the pictures, Kimishima always looks like those Yakuza bosses who deep inside their heart hate humanity.
I'm positive about his position on Nintendos future. It always encourages me when I hear Nintendo talking about constantly innovating and trying new things. They are sticking to their roots, not chasing investors demands.
Feels very much like they're preparing for the inevitable day that Miyamoto and co. are no longer there. Like they're gradually passing the torch to the younger generation, but laying out rules to ensure they stick to the plan!!
@Yasume Hard time beating the Wii U??
I think it is you who is out of his mind, good sir. The Switch will be a massive success. Mark my words.
@Yasume
Guess what, I believe Switch can sell more than at least 20 million units. I am NOT Insane, I am NOT out of my mind. I believe Nintendo can proof your wrong expectation. I believe casual gamers can be convinced by Switch uniqueness. Just let see after 3 March 2017.
The switch is going to be a massive hit, even at the price of 500$ here in Mexico.
@Yasume I do think it is unlikely that the Nintendo Switch will sell 100 million units, but it certainly will do better than the Wii U, Japan alone will likely see it sell more than that console had worldwide I would think it will sell somewhere between 30 and 50 million in its lifetime.
@Yasume I think you're pretty damn insane thinking that the Switch can't beat the Wii U. The Wii Us main downfall was it's incredibly poor marketing and communication. The Switch has already done more great marketing than the Wii U has in its lifetime and you think it can't beat an invisible console?
I'm sorry, that's just pure blind rage at this point. I don't know who got on your bad side today but Kimishima has already done a lot for hopes in this system. I don't personally think it will break 100m but it's certainly looking a lot brighter than anything that was done in the past few years by Nintendo.
People who think the switch is selling badly obviously aren't well informed lol. It's already hard to get a preorder in America and in the UK it's doing pretty well too. Put it this way I have a friend who has a business selling video games/consoles and he was only allowed 2 switches max. Even then that was after Nintendo released another batch of consoles. Before that none of his suppliers could even let him have one lol. That NEVER happened with the Wii U and I haven't seen hype like this happen since the Wii and original DS.
30 mill would be great for switch after the wii u disaster but it will probably reach 40 -50 mill. If it's still very low numbers after XMAS then it's a uphill struggle. It shouldn't have trouble beating wii u
+100.000.000 units in it's lifetime!
Another thing people need to consider is that although the Switch is considered a home console for Nintendo, there's already people (including myself) who are treating this as a powerful hand-held and that's even better imo. Me and my brothers used to share a home console, but now Nintendo's given us the incentive to buy each of our own. My brother often goes to Uni far away, so he can never really bring a system with him when he visits because all the wires and games make it hard to take on train.
The fact that theoretically, a Switch system can share a dock already help with this, and all the games are small enough to take the whole lot! My other brother goes out often and doesn't have time to play games as much as he used to. He heard about the Switch and already wants to get one of his own. Years ago, we used to play together on our GameCube (Mario Kart Double Dash) but as we got older, we never got to do stuff like that as often. The convenience of the Switch alone is its BIGGEST selling point.
Long story short: Convenience sells and the Switch is already doing a stellar job when it comes to that concept. Just bring on the games!
@Yasume it seems that a big portion of your view is from his 100 mil statement. Sure, that number seems utterly out there (though time will tell), but beyond that, what else has Kimishima done to warrant this belief? It's hard to see what was of the influence of Iwata v him, but the company's restructure to allow the youth to have a voice seems that he is rather active in the company and isn't just talk — as you put it. A stronger push into not just the mobile market but smarter marketing. There's a lot of action that Kimishima has done and I'm curious — what else seems to be all talk?
@Yasume bookmarking the statement for the inevitable lulz in the near future
I do think Kimishima will do the work well - he knows how to delegate topics that aren't his expertise (creating the Fellow position), has a brilliant financial background and can handle the administration/business dealing part of the company with no problem, as seen in the dealings with Universal and Nvidia. He's the very opposite of Iwata, who had a programming background but had to learn business on the go.
It's good that they're worrying about a new president - Kimishima isn't exactly young and its was clear he was assigned president because they needed someone with experience after Iwata's sudden passing. They can't afford to have Kimishima retire without having new leadership ready.
@Yasume you don't seem to know who Nintendo is marketing to.
@Yasume He never even said that. He said the Switch has the POTENTIAL to sell as well as the Wii. Potential =/= that he thinks it will.
Next to that, the Switch has a far greater chance of selling close to 100 million, than selling less than the Wii U; especially if the Switch will be a platform with multiple iterations, which Reggie suggested in an earlier interview and has been brought up in the Time interview from earlier today.
With the most recent presentation I believe they have already begun to look at a new successor. Why put all those faces on display for the whole world to see if not to get us familiar with them. I for one thought the main presenter could be a top pick so far. Even though I thought much of what he did was boring (because I just wanted to see games) he still presented very well and was well spoken.
Nintendo has turned into such a terrible, anti-consumer company under Kimishima, that I'm seriously questioning whether I'll ever buy their products again. 2 years ago, I never thought this would be the case.
@DrkBndr He also predicted the Wii U would fail in so many words. That's why he has earned my trust for now. Besides the whole Switch idea was put in place by Iwata and not him. He deserves a chance to succeed or fail on his own merits.
I'm not convinced the Switch will sell as well as the Wii, but I like that the president is framing massive success as a reachable goal.
Because that's what a leader does. Lead.
The tekken fighter Nintendo boss is awesome.
@Rainbowgazelle
I think similar to you. I want all future Nintendo hardware to fail really bad so they finally go 3rd party. That way I can get all Ninty games on a machine with plenty other support from other 3Rd party. Fed up of having to buy more than 1 console. So yeah here is hoping they fail miserably for my own selfish needs. This doesn't mean I hate Ninty cause I like some of there games can't stand there jumpy platform games though
It's not rocket science. Put the next main Pokemon game on Switch. Job done.
@HappyMaskedGuy quite honestly at this point, doubling the sales of Wii U would be a "massive success" for Nintendo. Note, that would be 26 million and just over the GCN lifetime sales.
I'm calling it now: 42 million units sold
@NintySnesMan
Sorry, I pray a lot for Nintendo success everyday, especially during Chinese New Year last time. I pray for Tatsumi Kimishima, Mr. Reggie, Shigeru Miyamoto and all Nintendo staffs to improve their job performance to safe Nintendo from Doom. I never want Nintendo become 3rd party for sony and microsoft ( I hate both of them now). So, please stop hoping failures for Nintendo. Do you really want Switch become huge success and safe Nintendo from a big crisis ? I will do anything to help Nintendo with my ability. Of course as a loyal customer and I try to share Nintendo information to other people, hopefully they will like Nintendo products and can help Nintendo sales growth.
@gatorboi352
26 or whatever number but if can surpass more than 50 millions, prepare to be shocked. You will eat your words.
@Fandabidozi
Dead ?
You mean Mario doll ?
I said previously that Nintendo having mastered technology is a bold statement, but I stand corrected.
Just saying everything is okay is a bold statement by now.
This kind of talk is best left for a 2018 interview after Tatsumi Kimishima is buried in his own money.
@Yasume
I believe @ThanosReXXX is going to wield his Infinity Gauntlet soon enough for a reply.
@Yasume lol funny and dumbest post on here
@Anti-Matter you do know Nintendo has been around since 1889 making cards.point is they have more money then Sony and xbone even after the Wii u lol
@NintySnesMan I agree. I'm fed up too. 1 console for all games will be good.
@Anti-Matter k sounds good.
Also, did you 'Like' your own comment?
@Yasume
I was sceptical about the switch too. But as things stand at the moment it really looks like it's going to work 😊
I for one never want just one console out there. If that happens, we'll get the greedy version of Sony with the $600 PS3 or the greedy version of Microsoft with the $500 Xbox one. Competition is so healthy because it forces companies to up one another which in return gives us better games and systems. One console means we have to suck up any prices they shoot out just to game. Not something I personally want ever.
Kimishima is an action man. He'll do what has to be done. And he isn't biased against the youth or the new markets. I'm confident they made the right choice with him.
@CCore28
Absolutely. The 15 - 25 demographic has effectively been switched out with the people who were 5 - 15 when the Wii was launched. It really is a new market consisting of new players.
Wow, people sure can't take any negativity here. People actually start to threaten me on various social pages.
Anyway, I'm usually not the kind of guy who says "I told you so", but trust me, this system has 0 chance on the market with the information we have right now, but the fanboys won't take their goggles off obviously. So yeah, I'm afraid I'd have to use those words in a couple of months.
@Yasume trust me there's no winning here. People worship Nintendo here
@Yasume yeah cos you know so much better than him!
@CCore28 but your opinion means nothing. Harsh but true
@faint You mean the "core" crowd? You actually believe that they've developed a system that caters to the hardcore audience?
I hope that's not what you meant.
@CCore28 it doesn't
@HappyMaskedGuy Yes, somebody disagreed with them on the Internet!
@Yasume Experts and Nintendo have much more information available to them and they all disagree with you.
If you were really such an expert and able to make such accurate calls on such little information and your gut feelings, you'd be rich.
@Yasume
100 mill is beyond expectations for several reasons, they would need to either unify all types of gamers(casuals, mobile, hardcore and non) to get the Switch, or make every console gamer feel the need to have the switch as a 2nd console.
But you don't think they can shift 20 mill? Supplies willing, I would be surprised if they don't move 10 mill by this time next year. I base that on what I EXPECT to be a exciting E3, as well as holiday Mario, and a bundle that, again, I EXPECT to be released.
@Yasume although you may be right about the casual market, the Switch is an interesting concept that will appeal to hardcore gamers and moms alike.
@Gamer83
That's a really stupid thinking style.
You do realize that in order to sell 100m units, Nintendo would have to either pull a PS2 and make the system strategically never function so they have to buy a replacement, or that every single person in the entire world must own a Switch. It's an intriguing device to the masses, but it's not really "OMG MOM SUPER COOL REVOLUTIONARY MUST HAVE!" like the Wii was. This is a super cool revolutionary must have to most gamers and all the people who are more than a little interested in this sucker, thanks to word of mouth and Nintendo's Super Bowl ad, which I have to say, is popping up in many places, which is fantastic of Nintendo to finally do.
But I'll guarantee you right here that Switch will never sell 100m units. It will be a highly successful and profitable system, yes, and it will most likely put Nintendo back on the map. But every single child on Earth, and any and all queens, kings, presidents, hotels, parents, grandparents, aunts, nieces, nephews, distant cousins, and whoever else you can think of will not all say "I need this or I will die." like they did back in 2006.
Once again, 100m units is NOT going to happen.
@Grawlog I've stated my arguments multiple times and the attackers usually fall silent after that. I can link you to it if you want to.
Good article. It's cool to see Kimishima's mindset on the business as a whole. So hopefully they continue to hire dedicated people to keep Nintendo in the positive.
@Spoony_Tech I was thinking the same regarding the prominent placement of Koizumi. I said to someone right after "I think we found the next Iwata." He suits the "image" of Nintendo leader very well (or at least now that he's cut his hair! )
He's been heavily involved in the 3D Mario games and 3D & 2D Zelda games for a long, long time (director of Galaxy, Odyssey, Sunshine, involved in 64, involved in story for Majora and Link's Awakening, even did artwork for the manual for Link to the Past. He's certainly deeply tied to all the key franchises, and now showed he can hold the presentation aspect in a slick way. The only question is: How is he with financials spreadsheets? Seems a little too creative for a numbers guy. He's maybe the next Miyamoto. Iwata was a coder, so numbers were his thing. Koizumi...that might be what keeps him out of the slot, but I'd personally love to see him succeed Kimishima when he retires.
I thought they were grooming Takahashi for the role, but seeing him on stage, he seemed a little awkward. Nowhere near the slick, polished, Mr. Magician Koizumi.
120Mil is still an absurd number, BUT that implies we know the intended lifespan of the console which we don't. I'm certain he's including the "sales as the budget console after the successor is on the market" figures too. I don't think it will hit that.
OTOH, under 20M? For a Nintendo handheld? Seriously?
I loved Iwata as a person but wasn't sure about him as CEO.
For some reason I feel this guy is going to do well for the company...
@Yasume Or they just got tired of hearing the same thing over and over. I wouldnt count that as a victory.
@Yasume you seem like you know alot about business .. its a shame Nintendo doesn't have you in its ranks as advisor because the rest of us are crazy to believe Nintendo can sell more than Wii U.
@Yasume
You said 0 chance for Switch to be success ?
I said 1000% chance to be HUGE Success.
And prepare to eat your words.
@iGen
At least can surpass Wii U sales, I will be happy to hear. But if can surpass more than 100 millions, that will be a Shock. I don't expect much for Switch, as long have better sales than Wii U and peoples keep remembering Nintendo brand that more than enough for me.
@UK-Nintendo "trust me there's no winning here. People worship Nintendo here".
How odd, people on a Nintendo site liking Nintendo. Who'd have thought it eh?
@WiltonRoots THAT'S CRAZY TALK!
@WiltonRoots I know lol. We should not or never criticise Nintendo. Why are we even discussing
I'm just wondering... why is he worried who his successor already?
Kimishima telling shareholders that he thinks the Switch has the potential to sell 100 million units doesn't mean he is a bad CEO. It means he has high expectations for the Switch, and will likely take reasonable measures to ensure that the Switch can reach its full potential in a profitable manner. Whether that means the Switch will sell 100 million unit has yet to be seen (I personally doubt it).
@Yasume
Nobody is attacking you. People are saying that your "Switch will sell less than the Wii U" claim is ridiculous and based on nothing but your own negative opinions toward the device.
@Anti-Matter
Oh yes, it will most definitely surpass Wii U sales. By a landslide at least. Will probably reach to SNES numbers, maybe a little more.
@Yasume
Well, as you can see from my avatar -and you can ask anybody who's been around PushSquare - I'm about as far from being a Nintendo fanboy as one can be. I just look at what's happened in the past, I look at current trends. If you and others want to deny there is a lot of hype and excitement for Switch (I'm not actually that hyped for it outside of a few games), that's perfectly fine, but some stores have said pre-orders are tracking ahead of what PS4 was at, and that's a system that has reached 55 mil, last I heard might be getting close to 60 mil. Nintendo handhelds have always done over 60 mil, so I think that's the bare minimum Nintendo is shooting for. It may not reach 100 mil, I'm not saying it's a sure thing it will reach that number, just that I don't think it's out of the question. It should be able to do 75m-80m without any issue though as long as it has consistent quality releases from Nintendo and as long as it's continued to be marketed properly. As @Grawlog posted, there's also a chance for a dockless Switch sku, that drops the price and makes it an easier sell.
He's succeeded in keeping the company on the straight and narrow, and that's all he was brought in to do: stabilize Nintendo. I think that mission is near complete, but now an even more interesting question is brewing in who will be the next head honcho. I don't feel it "should" be Takeda or Miyamoto as that would take away from what they excel in-- Stay tuned I supposed.
@ccore28
Don't worry about Donkeykongsmallboy. He constantly has digs at ppl I have read his comments many times and the pattern is always the same. He chooses someone then always rude to them. All it does is show his little mind and low intellectual thoughts
@Yasume
He was the NoA president.
He did great by us here.
What don't you like about him?
@FragRed That's more of a feasible target, myself pinning it out at 35 million.
The Wii had greater support, was a fresh idea on the concept of motion controls, was cheap from the get go and came with several bundles, accessories were dirty cheap and the Wii Fit really made it a substitute to a exercise equipment, for cheap. So no, 100 million is really out of the question.
I hope that Switch 2 comes with a case, sells for 200 (no dock) and becomes the 3DS successor.
@Yasume
I'll bet you actual money this sells more than the Wii U. You can have a look at my comments history, I'm no fanboy, but I'll bet £50 right now. Money goes to a charity of the winner's choice.
@gatorboi352 It's not a good assumption to make for sure.
However, unless we consider the Virtual Boy a portable (it really isn't) all main Nintendo portable lines have sold more than 50mil units. Even the 3DS, which had a rather rough start is well beyond the 50mil mark now.
He's not exactly wrong per se but in the Switch's case it's really going to end up being a matter of perception in the market (is it a portable or is it a console). And frankly, Sony has already shown us that it's entirely possible for a portable to never even remotely reach the 50mil mark.
@Ernest_The_Crab that, and none of those portables were $300 and as clunky as Switch is.
@maceng Small detail: Wii accessories were not cheap in the US at least.
@AlexSora89 You mean THIS glove?
Wouldn't do much good: it's only useful for crushing enemies/worlds/galaxies, not for making people see the error of their ways where it concerns baseless assumptions combined with next to no knowledge on the company and CEO concerned...
But having said that, I've kind of lost the gauntlet for a bit. Last I heard from my sources, it was stolen by some blonde Sony-supporting bimbo, so I'll have to go find her and think of some suitable measure of punishment...
Aye, before long, I will once again wield the gauntlet and will crush all idiots and none believers alike...
/B-movie type Thanos monologue...
@aaronsullivan Well, compared to the Switch's, there were better priced: reviewed all my orders from Amazon from 2007 to 2009, and had 2-wii Kart controllers for 20, a pro controller (the one you attached the wiimote to), 35, a non-pro controller, 27. Also, I bought several Wiis, all ranging from 155 to 200.
Can Nintendo adjust their prices if they well? Can we really start to see again the discounts of the Wii-era regarding accessories (lost in the Wii U era)? And, most important, can Nintendo mend their relationship with Amazon to have enough consoles and accessories at hand for the retailer?
@ThanosReXXX
How the hell did you find a gif with a girl wearing the Gauntlet while she also had a PlayStation hat.
WHAT ARE EVEN THE ODDS OF THAT HAPPENING
@AlexSora89 Like I said: sources, or in this, real-life case, mad Googling skills because of me being so used to using that for business purposes...
@Gamer83
"It should be able to do 75m-80m without any issue though as long as it has consistent quality releases from Nintendo and as long as it's continued to be marketed properly."
omfg are you serious?????????????????????????????????????
Friendly warning: sorry in advance, people. BIG wall of text incoming, but you might just find it an interesting read...
Interesting to note that there's rather important key phrase in those Kimishima quotes:
"The integrated hardware and software business is at the heart of Nintendoʼs business and I believe it is important that we continue our strong commitment to that business"
That ought to shut up all the idiots thinking Nintendo is either going out of business or going third party, but it probably won't, because... well, idiots...
Ridiculing Kimishima will only serve to highlight people's own shortcomings, since very few of us (if any) will ever match the achievements he has already made in his solid, nearly flawless career.
Before he took the job of Chief Financial Officer at the Pokemon Company, Kimishima worked for the Sanwa Bank in Osaka for 27 years, which in the 90's was the most profitable bank in the world. And guess who was in large part responsible for that?
Yep, he was: mr. Kimishima dealt with corporate planning, international business development, corporate communications and promotions and in that role, he was highly successful.
The man doesn't sell BS, he's a pure business strategist and a financial mastermind, so if he makes a statement, then you can be sure that it has been weighed and considered and weighed again long before he is even making that statement public.
Armchair critics are better off using their comfy chair for a relaxing bit of mindless video gaming instead of talking about matters that they hardly have any knowledge of...
The thing with business goals and marketing targets is that you will and MUST always reach for the sky, so Kimishima saying that the Switch could sell like the Wii (he NEVER said it's going to sell 100 million, yet another twisting/misinterpretation of words) is simply the execution of such a goal.
It's like going into a sports match and saying that you're going to win: does that actually mean that you ARE going to win the game? Hell no, but going into the match thinking you'll surely lose or that you won't have much of a chance of winning will definitely make sure that you're not going to get any decent result.
And in the end, if you've done all you can and you end up with a draw as a result, then at least it's not a loss and that can still feel like a win in some instances.
The point in business is constantly improving results (dòh) and as such, you will NEVER catch Kimishima saying that they'll only hope to surpass Wii U numbers, because that would be a defeatist mind set and would be the EXACT opposite of the example I just gave.
He's saying "like the Wii" to get that mind set out into the world and in the minds of both the media and all people in and around Nintendo themselves, it's charging them up to go and "win the game" instead of going for a loss before having even entered the match.
In the end, any sales between 30 million and 60 million will be a massive win for Nintendo. If the Switch is truly perceived as the next handheld to most consumers, then a lot of 3DS owners may buy one with that in mind, and currently, the number of 3DS owners is around 60 million. Current standings for Wii U are around 13 million.
Taking a slightly more cautious point of view, we subtract a little over half of that 13 million, because not all Wii U owners own a 3DS as well, leaving us with a total of roughly 66 million possible buyers.
But of course, like with the Wii U owners, there's also a percentage of 3DS owners never having owned (or even interested) in a Wii U, so these will not be interested in the Switch as a home console and will solely use it as a handheld/portable console, so for argument's sake, let's say that is also around half.
That leaves us with a total number of 36 million possible buyers. That is WELL over Wii U sales, better than GameCube, and in relation to the current market and the price point of the console, it will be a guaranteed profit for Nintendo, because of course it will not end with those console sales alone, so games and peripherals will make it an even bigger profit.
And once that attach rate is in for the hardware, then the rest will continue to flow, provided Nintendo and their partners deliver a steady stream of it. And if anything, the first good signs are the current marketing campaign and the amount of preorders, already indicating that even with ramped up production of the console, it will continue to be in demand for quite some time to come, so the first 10 million may well be reached within the first half year.
As you can see, even with modest/cautious predictions, the outlook is actually far more positive than one might expect at first glance.
Now, obviously it is far too soon to say what the grand total will actually be at the end of the Switch's life cycle. It could be less than that 36 million, but it could also be a bit more, say 40 million. And that definitely isn't outside the realms of possibility.
It would be stupid to not take that possibility into account, simply because somehow the mindset in the general audience is that this number must "surely" be unattainable, because only Sony can hit such numbers. Well, contrary to Nintendo, Sony doesn't really have a knack (pun intended) for making profitable handhelds, so there's that to consider in the REAL world...
So, in conclusion: it isn't about selling exactly as much as the Wii. even Kimishima knows that's not an achievable number, but it IS about aiming high enough so that the final number will be a considerable improvement over Wii U sales, and not just a number below 20 million, which would only be a modest improvement.
And why would we not want or support that? It will assure that Nintendo makes enough money to continue making their special brand of hardware and their great games, the ones that most people on here like or even love, so we should all be looking forward to seeing them succeed in that endeavor, instead of confusing past for present or opinion for fact...
@Yasume I'm actually curious for an honest response to my old comment. Your first post says Kimishima is all talk. The Switch's success aside, what else has Kimishima said that makes you feel that he has no action behind his words?
@Yasume The handheld functionality of the system might just give it an appeal that the Wii U didn't have and offer games, graphically, that the 3DS cannot. 100 mil sales may be pushing it but I don't think there's any reason to write off this path for the system.
Not yet anyway.
@maceng
http://www.nintendo.com/switch/buy-now/
Steering wheel for switch $15 for 2. You get a pro-controller with the Switch which can also be the motion controls. It also coverts to TWO controllers in the box where the Wii came with one Wii remote and a nunchuck and pretty much required you to buy another to get good use out of the pack-in game. That's $60 ($40 for remote, $20 for nunchuck) and didn't quite work if you wanted the pro controller experience so you bought another accessory, right? So, I don't know what my point really is except I bought way more accessories for Wii than I think I'll ever have a need for on the Switch.
I did buy an extra pair of Joy-cons at $80, but I will have 4 controllers on day one for Bomberman. That's value in my eyes, though I know it won't be the best for everyone. Plus, word is that the grip makes the joy-cons very comfortable. I may not need a pro controller. We'll see.
Anyway, to me the accessories are cheaper because they offer more value but to many I think it will be similar.
Also, I know in the US at least there was only one bundle for most (all?) of that first year and Wii Fit didn't launch until a year later, so we don't know if anything will come along and do similar things.
Not saying it will do 100 million, of course, I'm very curious how Kimishima, a numbers guy as he is, has come up with that. It would be great, but I'm not seeing it either.
@aaronsullivan If you really want to know what might have gotten into Kimishima making statements like that, then I would invite you to dive into my wall of text in comment #96, there's a likely explanation for Kimishima's statements, as seen from my own experience and point of view. It may not be completely right, but I'm betting I'm pretty damn close...
@ThanosReXXX
Well, your Google-fu is definitely stronger than mine.
Preorders are basically sold out at the moment, but if they want to sell a massive amount of consoles, they need to meet the demands instead of skimping out on them. The Wii was impossible to even find for over a year of its release, then it was even harder to find an extra remote for it. Even when the Gamecube was released, they shorted memory cards...took me several months before I could actually find one and I bought the system at launch. What they really need to do is stop shorting everything that they make, and it would show many people that they actually mean business. If they make a bunch of units, even if they don't all sell out, at least they're made and they won't have to continuously drain out their manpower by making more and more with more hours spent doing so. MEET THE CONSUMERS NEEDS!!! I see the Switch definitely selling more than the Wii U...won't take much too, and I see it selling more than the Gamecube, but as far as the Wii goes, that was a one-time hit for them...can the Switch sell as many as the Wii has over it's lifetime...yeah, but they have to continue the mass marketing scheme and continue to get people excited for it throughout the years...if not, they risk sales falling down. March 3rd will give them a bunch of sales for it's launch, Zelda will definitely draw in the money for them...up until then, I don't really see much excitement until the holidays with Mario Odyssey and whatever else they have slated for the following year. I'm just hoping for a new Animal Crossing title and would really love a true successor to Luigi's Mansion...I didn't really care for Dark Moon but loved the original Gamecube masterpiece.
@aaronsullivan You're right on the accessories for the Wii...it was a mess, way too many and way too many upgrades, especially when we ended up having to add the Motion Plus adaptor...plus, many of the accessories never lasted long...Wii Speak, Balance Board, Zapper Gun, Steering Wheels...all the sports connections. There was too many to take it seriously.
@Rotgut
Give me a good reason it can't sell that much. No Nintendo handheld has ever sold fewer than 60 mil, the Switch will manage at least that, throw in a few other factors and 80 mil is attainable.
@AlexSora89 I'll reveal my secret concerning this one: I was looking for an Infinity Gauntlet gif because of you mentioning me earlier, and during doing so, I stumbled upon a Loot Crate article, that mentioned a returns request on an "Infinity Gauntlet oven mitt" and that is where that picture comes from.
Loot Crate is a webshop that offers subscription-based (or one time) "mystery boxes" with all kinds of surprise goodies in them, hence the name "Loot Crate"...
@ThanosReXXX You know I was kind of expecting an Infinity Gauntlet reference a lot sooner from you XD
@Ernest_The_Crab Well, you have to thank @AlexSora89 for putting me to work on that one, I didn't really see any need myself, but I'm always up for requests when it comes from people I like to have discussions with...
@ThanosReXXX
Still, an uncanny coincidence.
Wait, did I say Uncanny? My mutant sense is tingling!
@Ernest_The_Crab
For reference:
@Ersatz
Is your nickname based on the trope?
@AlexSora89 Can you fire energy beams out of your eyes =D?
@Ernest_The_Crab
I don't know, honestly. These eyes only gave me a wonderful girlfriend, that's all I know.
@AlexSora89 X-men don't tingle, that would be your friendly neighborhood web slinger...
P.S.
Is that actually you? If so, ballsy move to show yourself. Most people like to stay anonymous...
@AlexSora89
More or less.
https://www.amazon.com/Ersatz-Elevator-Unfortunate-Events-Book/dp/0064408647
@Ersatz
I'll look into that soon enough. I have a red eye at the moment and I'm trying to figure out what to do about it.
@ThanosReXXX
Yep, that dork is me. Not ballsy, though, many NLers - or is it just the staff? - do that as well. Besides, I figured out that would be a fun captioned pic to put here.
@AlexSora89 No, it's just the staff. There are a couple that use their real name, though. I keep my private life private, not because I don't like to share, but because of being my own boss, my business is also immediately involved with my personal details and I don't need people harassing/following me or whatever on my business/LinkedIn profile. (unless I personally invite them to, which I don't do very often if at all, especially on gaming sites)
P.S.
The derailing certainly worked: I had an entirely different picture of you in my head, probably because of your avatar and the "knowledge" that you are Italian.
Yeah, I know: makes no sense, but that's just my weirder side...
@Ersatz Wow, there's 13 books of that? I thought one movie was already more than enough. Children continuously having misfortune is a bit too rich for my blood, even if it's written in a comedic style, so it apparently takes a typical kind of humor to continue to find that entertaining, but to each their own, I guess, and we can't all have the same taste.
Would make the world a decidedly boring place to be in...
@ThanosReXXX
Real name is Italian for Alexander, in case you were wondering - which means, of course, Alessandro. And given I've seen Shyamalan's Twist two nights ago, I have to say: what a tweest!
No worries, though, you'll always be Thanos The Mad Titan to me.
I caught you off guard, I see! Good! Picture me in your mind however you like, may it be my comic-avatar's gargantuan nose or my real-life gargantuan nose.
And you say you only have a weirder side? Pfft, amateur. I'm 100%, pure, unadulterated weirdness!
@AlexSora89 Well, the Alexander part was a given, since you more than likely used your own name as well.
One thing I actually CAN say is that in your picture, like in your texts, you come across as really friendly, at least that's the one thing I did peg you right on...
@ThanosReXXX
You'd think so, but the kids find a way out of it. It's like a wittier version of Jane Eyre.
There's actually a Netflix series now that is much better than the film.
@Ersatz Of course they'd find a way out, that's kind of one of the main themes of the whole story, I suppose, but for me, a certain level of distress or unhappiness, comedic or not, is sufficient. And I have a soft spot for children: they should be happy at some point, and not be sick or miserable. (yeah, I know it's only a book with made up stories, but still)
All these good times, bad times and so forth sound almost like a soap opera: nobody is happy for long enough periods to actually enjoy it before something really bad happens once again, and again, and again...
But in the interest of fair judgment, I'll take a look at that series and see if it's any better than the movie.
@ThanosReXXX
If it isn't your thing, it just isn't your thing. I mean, don't put yourself in distress for my sake! XD
@Ersatz No worries, it won't distress me. I just found the movie okayish at best, even though it was an interesting premise in and of itself, so maybe I'll like the series better. Those 13 books, though... not a chance that I'm stepping into that one...
@ThanosReXXX
More or less, I'm a chill dude.
Kimishima is the complete opposite of Iwata.
Iwata was a gamer himself and really close to the fans. Kimishima seems to be an old type of businessman who just sits in an ivory tower in Kyoto.
@Yasume you still sure about the zero percent chance on the market?
@faint Absolutely. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see a success for Nintendo as well, but as it stands right now it just doesn't have a chance.
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