Steven Williams - better known by his YouTube handle Boogie2988 - is the man behind the fictional character Francis, an immature lisping gamer who regularly rants about a wide range of topics online. He also produces hugely popular videos as himself, of course.
He attended the recent Retropalooza event in Arlington, Texas - as himself, not Francis - and during a lengthy and very entertaining Q&A session touched upon some NX information he had been given.
While it's important to stress that Williams himself doesn't claimed to have played NX, his sources are two individuals who have, one of which is employed by Ubisoft.
During the segment Williams states that the console is a hybrid platform, as has been reported on numerous occasions:
I talked to two people that use it, one is from Ubisoft, and he said programming for it is actually really nice and Nintendo has been working very closely with them and that the concept is great.
He said you could play - I don't know how careful I should be here - let's say you could play Assassin's Creed once you have your handheld plugged into your console, and then you can detach the thing and take it with you and play the Assassin's Creed mobile game out of your pocket, and then when you get back home plug it directly in. That's brilliant, that's smart. You take the form of the game with you as you go.
He says it's a dream to code for. Someone else I know who has played on NX for twenty minutes says it's as innovative as they'd hoped and [said] that 'we wish that we had done it.'
Williams also touches upon the issues surrounding Nintendo's position in the industry right now, including its infamous treatment of YouTubers who stream its games. He states a desire to see the idea of purchasing a Nintendo console once again becoming "a cool thing to do", and likens Nintendo to an abusive mother whom we can't help but love, despite the knock-backs.
The segment starts around the 35 minute mark. You can watch the full video below, but please be aware that it contains some bad language.
What do you make of Williams' comments regarding the hybrid nature of the NX? Given how many times we've heard this rumour, surely there's little reason to doubt it now? As ever, we'd love to hear what you think about NX - and the Q&A in general - so post a comment below.
So they're going for what the Vita was originally intended to do for the PS3.
Sounds good if they can pull it off.
Though I think it'll just means most devs target the handheld version and maybe the console version will just offer a higher res render or something.
I assume that by "Assassin's Creed mobile game", he means a cell phone game. I truly hope it's not a console that lets you play mobile games but rather lets you play 3DS quality games on the go.
That said, the details are still super vague and Nintendo seems bent on not giving any info until the NX has already been released. We'll see in due time.
He also says that it's going to cost $450.
Makes sense and sounds realistic. Worst-case, these people played dev kits that mimic what it will do.
Like any system, it'll sound more interesting if the games are good. That's what matters.
There will be many hoping that you can take the actual game and play it on the go. I'm not so sure he means this by what he's saying here. I'm also hoping there's not tacked on mobile game counterparts. Developers might be put off by essentially having to develop two separate games, & feel.
This sounds a little like a more advanced Dreamcast VMU thing to me. But great if they can pull it off and get innovative third party support.
Cease and desist!
Sense like he is saying quite a lot, considering the gagging ninty has been imposing on people.
You've got to pay for your handheld and home console.
Very interesting concept. It's almost like a library in format; before you go out somewhere, you go to the console with the handheld, plug it in, select your game, unplug it, and you're all set until you come home to "return" the game.
@Yrreiht that's exactly what I read! I don't want to play mobile games, I want to play games on the go. That's a huge difference in my book.
I sure hope Mario Run isn't the game we get on the handheld.
So it could happen different forms of gameplay or sections of gameplay depending if the console is attached or detached into something.
If attached it gets the usual console like experience and if detached you get a mobile experience.
@filterclay that would fit the Dragon Quest XI format. Looking totally different on NX and PS4, versus the 3DS.
Sounds good. He's a decent Tuber and his words add to the positive hype, for me.
Re: the mobile gaming issue. The essential difference is that this system will have regular console controls. It's the reliance touchscreen that makes mobile games the shallow experience they are. It's not like the new Mario NX game will suddenly become Super Mario Run on the portable unit.
I feel like "mobile" was a poor choice of words, as everything else he says supports the concept of the taking the same game on the go or at home.
If that's what it is. That's not an hybrid.
That's a home console, with a mobile aspect. It's not meant to replace the 3DS (just like Iwata/ kimishima said )
And I'm okay with that. Because then I'm expecting a futur device to succeed the 3DS.
Thats pretty steep. If its true many people will wait for the inevitable price cut
Make sense. It's like I've said time and time over, the handheld portion of the system will literally be a Dreamcast VMU - not the full game, but a small percentage of it that allows for some form of low-powered mobile activity.
Best example is Pokemon. You need to take the handheld outside to catch Pokemon, then when you get home you can interact with them in a different vein.
Okay why are some random Youtubers getting info about NX but the public doesn't? Who is this guy and what makes him so special that not one, but two people told him details about NX?
And is the big innovation really just the hybdrid concept or is there some real innovation that we don't know of yet? Because the hybrid concept is an old hat, we've been hearing about it for years.
And honestly, it's not a big innovation. It's just the next step from the Wii U, which was already a stationary console with a handheld device as the main controller. It's only evolution, not revolution (compared to Wii and Wii U, which both were a revolution of gaming).
@8itmap_k1d where do you see him mentioning the controls? What if the physical buttons from the leaked drawings are purely for the console version of the game and you have to take them off on the go?
Never heard about this guy before.
This guy said too much.
I bet he is found dead after 'accidentally' choking on some sushi later this week.
"Assasin's Creed mobile game"? What?
Johnny Vegas' American cousin.
@Emperor-Palpsy But Pokémon games have always been on handhelds. It doesn't make sense to only be able to catch Pokémon on a handheld, and play the full game on a console.
@shani he's not just a "random YouTuber". He has millions of subscribers and is known for covering gaming content, including receiving review products (like the Xbox one slim) before they are even released to review on his channel.
@Thermoclorn There are tons of Youtubers with millions of subscribers out there and many of them cover gaming content. It's nothing special anymore. So in that regard, yes he is a random Youtuber.
Besides, having 3,5 million subscribers doesn't mean there are actually 3,5 million people actively following him. I think this applies to all or most channels, only a small fraction of the subscribers are active followers. You just press a button to subscribe, it's no big procedure and there's definitely no commitment to actually watch their content regularly.
So if you take this into account - plus the fact that there are 3,5 billion active internet users in the whole world - it's really not that significant.
I'm not saying anyone can get 3,5 million subscribers, but my previous question still stands: What makes this guy so special?
Do Ubisoft, MS and Nintendo employees talk to any Youtuber who has a few million subscribers (or even give them free review samples)? I don't think so.
Some of the terminology he's used is somewhat questionable, and could be a bit of a concern if it's accurate...
'handheld plugged into the console'... is he referring to the console being plugged into the TV dock as was believed to be the case, or is it essentially two systems as this implies?
'Assassin's Creed' and 'Assassin's Creed mobile game'... are they two separate games, or just the same game running in two different modes (like the Wii U's TV and off-TV modes)?
Dude, I don't want things spoiled by YouTubers... Nintendo, please, just tell us something. u_u
@shani Employees at Ubisoft, MS, and Nintendo are just people like you or me. If Boogie is good friends with someone at Ubisoft who knows he is clearly really interested in gaming news, why wouldn't they chat about it as friends?
So who else knew before clicking that this article would have no actual new info?
I hope Sterling sorts itself out by release!
Ok, Nintendo. Time for a reveal...news sites are getting desperate and pulling everyone out the woodwork now.
Did I hear him right, saying every system with exception of the NES every was "under-powered"? He needs to see the numbers of the SNES next to the Genesis, even Ben Heck said SNES was more powerful than Genesis after he tore both down. I also can't believe he said the 64-bit N64 was under-powered to the 32-bit PlayStation and Saturn, or the GameCube under-powered, especially when compared to PS2... Really, Iwata took them in the different direction of focusing on play control instead of power, starting with the Wii.
@Thermoclorn Because they're not allowed to?
With all the secrecy surrounding the NX, it's a given that no employee is allowed to say anything.
My assumption was that he got the info through official channels, with approval from above.
Your assumption suggests that they told him unofficially as friends, without being allowed to. That's exactly what you're not supposed to to, because everyone knows how word of mouth works and how prone to error human beings are - let alone the fact that they would risk their jobs by needlessly telling a friend about it.
Why would anyone do that? I know I wouldn't tell anyone about it. It's your obligation.
Since he got info about NX on two separate occasions, [if your assumption is true] he must have two really close friends at Ubisoft and Nintendo. That would be too much of a conincidence (that's why I think it happened through official channels), even though you're right about the fact that those employees are just people like you and me, with two arms, two legs, a distinct face and maybe even a brain inside their skulls.
Ironically wasn't the master system much stronger than the NES?
There's always ranges. The Wii would was the first where the power range was a generation behind.
The SNES was more powerful than the Genesis. And I saw a pretty convincing argument that the Gamecube was more powerful than the Xbox. But each system really does certain things better which makes generations hard to compare and gives fanboys fuel.
@Peek-a-boo That's a Tesco placeholder. There's no guarantee that it will be the final price.
The quote- 'we wish we'd thought of it'- So he was talking to another console maker executive?
Knowing Boogie, he was talking to Major Nelson at Microsoft.
Would be nice to have an NX impression w/o Ubisoft being mentioned.
At first I just assumed it was the numa numa guy!
Morphing games sounds like an interesting concept! People have spoken about how full home titles don't work as portables (See:PSP*) and vice-versa. What if Nintendo have solved this problem with adaptive software? That's pretty exciting stuff.
*for the record I regard the PSP as one of the greatest consoles of all time. Misunderstood perhaps but it has some amazing software and can be easily hacked wide open to play anything, especially PS1 games.
wow this guy plays mostly PC,ps4,xbox and he gets to know about it yet the fans are sitting here P**ssed off because of nintendo's secrecy GG
@Yrreiht You see Nintendo is going to allow us to order the NX Season pass...which is the unit and a game but not actually tell us anything about it. And when they get all our money they will decide what to actually do with it.
@DiscoGentleman Yeah there's not been an NX article for a while, has there...?
@Peek-a-boo I dont see how that's a bad asking price depending on what they are offering
This guy, like the rest of us, knows nothing and has been told nothing (and truly hasn't actually said anything). It's all hyperbole and rumor and speculation. Even NX developers have no idea what it will cost or what the final/retail system will look like, as they're just using ugly/temporary dev kits that are simply designed to allow for content creation.
And NO ONE has played on the real NX. This guy is either being told a bunch of nonsense or, more likely, is embellishing information in order to promote himself and his youtube channel.
@SuperToe We are past that point if March is the release date. Nintendo will already have a finalised NX (ready for mass production - unless they make a last minute change) and they are probably finished their plans / script etc for the reveal (which includes form, specs games and packaging). It is clear Ubisoft have an NX. Companies don't announce a direct or reveal and then figure out what they will do on the day lol. They operate looking 2 years (at least) ahead of themselves.
Using the words "mobile game" instead of just saying taking the game on the go makes me think that you will get to only play like a crappy mini game on the go, but the full game when connected to the dock at home, and that really doesn't interest me at all.
This idea isn't exactly new either as Dreamcast allowed you to do the same kind of thing worth the vmu, like playing Chao Adventure from Sonic Adventure.
I'm really hoping this isn't the case and he just worded things wrong,because I would rather take my full games on the go, not just play some stupid mini game of the main game.
Tomorrows headline: 'The Mysterious Disappearace of Steven Williams'.
"Mobile" is not the same as "handheld"
I'm not worried....
You know with Paper Mario Color Splash being released on Wii U, it's keeping my mind off NX. Shame there weren't more games to distract us while we wait for the announcement.
Assuming when he says mobile he means 2free from tv" We might of already seen what he's talking about with Hyrule Warriors 3DS how it gimps the game to run on the old 3DS.
its also possible its simply like the Ps3/vita where is actually two games (not one played on two devices) and your save transfers across.
again keeping expectations in check, I 'm currently picturing an Wii U level DS/Gameboy successor because we know it has to be around there based on whats been announced so far.
I wonder how many people actually think the Francis character is real...
I knew someone would spill the beans eventually, but I'm positive no one expected it to be Francis of all people.
So, let's all be honest with ourselves here; it's now pretty clear it's a device that you can basically use as a portable and that somehow plugs into something that allows you to play it on your TV too, pretty much just like the rumours. Although, I'm really hoping you don't have to have it tethered at all times when playing on the TV; I don't think that would actually be a smart move at all. I'd rather it simply streamed to the TV like the Wii U GamePad and didn't really require much other hardware at all other than some tiny box that plugs into your TV so you can wirelessly send the data between the TV and NX. But I guess we'll see specifically how Nintendo's gone about it all in due time.
Boogie is pretty cool. I trust him telling us the truth with the information he has presented us. It'll be so cool playing console games on the go!
@GrailUK Ubisoft have NX dev kits. That is nowhere near the same thing as a final NX console. Nintendo is not handing out final-build NX systems to anyone at the moment. No one but Nintendo will have an NX until it launches. No one.
In this current age of instant information, if anyone besides Nintendo of Japan had a final NX the internet would have been flooded with images by now, as has been the recent case with any highly-anticipated technology.
As frustrating as it is that Nintendo has gone dark on NX info, we'll just have to keep waiting until something official is announced.
Better not read too much into it, but his wording is interesting!
We should bear in mind that he hasn't seen the NX himself, he's only relating what others have told him, and he might not be relaying everything entirely accurate. I guess by "a mobile game" and "a form of the game" he might just means a graphically downgraded version of the same game. It makes no sense to have entirely different gameplay on a separate device. That would be a huge strain on the developers.
In any case if the things he has heard are correct, then it would mean that the "dock" which stays at home, is not just for TV-connection and recharge (like the Eurogamer rumor suggests) but rather has it's own hardware that will boost/change the devices capabilities (like some sort of a... Supplemental Computing Device??).
EDIT: I don't doubt Boogie's honesty and integrity for a second, he could easily have friends in the industry who work for companies that have the NX dev kit.
His wording sounds interesting... And while the hybrid idea doesn't make me crazy, I've been warming up to it.
Though, the most important thing here, is that I hope he has a bunker to hide. He said to much.... And the Ninjas don't forgive.
I'm sorry, but when I read "bad language", I feel compelled to say, that 'They are only WORDS!" - as the great George Carlin put it.
Meh, I like booger more in Supersize vs superskinny.
I don't know why would anyone make his sperge news story - he made up things in the past, might as well say something vauge about NX.
@BensonUii So not October anymore, or September before that?
@Peek-a-boo "He also says that it's going to cost $450."
When did he say that? Can't find it in this panel at least.
I assume he was just offering guesswork, wasn't he? In any case, if the NX is multiple devices, I could see the SKUs be like this: Home console $299, handheld $199, bundle $449.
The way he describes is reminds me of the Dreamcast and its VMU platform.
@Ek1mus I don't think Nintendo are stupid enough to offer a portable controller which is no more than a tablet for playing touchscreen mobile games, whilst also making touchscreen mobile games for iPhone and Android.
It's interesting to think what it could mean. And the perspective means everything really.
So, I would think if there is indeed a screen on the unit itself, then it's there for good reason. At the very least it'll play smaller mobile versions of games for on the go. At most it'll play downscaled versions of the games themselves.
Of course, I think I speak for everyone when I say we'd all be happiest seeing scaled down versions of the games themselves. But, let's cover all bases here.
What if that's not the case. Let's say that instead, a game like Xenoblade NX gets a smaller mobile like title that lets you battle in an arena to level up, or a console Pokémon with a mobile like title that lets you train monsters, or even if maybe Super Mario Bros NX let's you play Super Mario Run, with buttons, or if Zelda NX has someing like the Cave of Shadows from Twilight Princess HD. Just to give some examples.
I still think that'd be pretty cool. And here's why. Because that would mean NX is not actually replacing their handhelds. This would be totally just for console play, right? I think we've kind of assumed NX would replace both U and 3DS, but if this turns out to be the case, and they indeed have a new handheld coming afterward (which may also feature connectivity with NX, or not) then this would be totally cool with me.
I can't believe Nintendo is really waiting for Paper Mario to release to announce NX. Dont get me wrong I'm going to get Color Splash but I'd wager that most of the people who are getting NX on launch day were going to pick up the game regardless. Especially when it's the last first party game on the system. I believe Intelligent Systems deserves some respect for their hard work, but waiting to announce a console because of one game is crazy. I'm one of the biggest Nintendo fans out there but this wait is frustrating. Yeah we get it, other tech companies wait until the day before to announce their product but they also release new hardware every year. And yeah we get it you don't want the competition to steal your ideas, but keeping your fans in the dark for so long could backfire too. Just give us the date.
How about... and PC gamers will understand what I'm getting at.
You get the full immersive experience, graphically etc when attached to the NX home dock/power module (Lets call this Graphic settings set to Ultimate)... then once you disconnect and take the game on the go it adjusts to low level graphics (Such as Low/Medium Graphic settings)... So effectively you are getting the same experience albeit at a lower fidelity. This is how I think (and pray) NX will work. What do you guys think?
@3dsgeek333 I really love this idea as opposed to bringing mini games or separate versions of the game on the go. Your library analogy really made the concept click for me.
NX, a hyrid console ya say. Able to take your home console games on the go and later play it again at home on the TV ya say. It's too bad Sega and NEC already did this a full two decades ago. The only advantage I would see in this is with digital version of them full games.
@breazer84 While nothing is for certain, I think that the patent for a Supplemental Computing Device hinted at exactly this. I too hope the NX will be like that!
If the NX big reveal is it's a hybrid, that's not exactly the kind of earthshaking change that is going to flip the industry upside down.
My guess is mobile just means there is a handheld component that interacts with the console component. VMUs we aren't getting. But by distinguishing between gaming on the screen and the taking it on the go, I think they'll expect us to pay twice. Once for a home copy and once for a mobile copy.
I really get horrible flashbacks to literally every Nintendo launch where people say the same things and nothing pans out the way it was said. I really do hope Nintendo can at least get back to GCN levels, even if it results in the 'meh' sales that the GCN achieved.
The best thing about is. no one else is reporting this. Like none of the big sites,only some Nintendo fan sites. ROFL
One if the things I noticed is that he said 'plugs into the console ' meaning that possibly the controller/mobile part of NX is probably not where most of the hardware is at. Secondly it made me think what if each game came with a cartridge (as is rumoured) AND a disk. So the disk is for the home console experience and the cartridge allows the controller/mobile part to save data and take a part of the game with you. So they could port a disk version for easier development for third parties and optionally have a secondary version with portability for those who want to go the extra mile.
Yeah I think it could be possible, or the console uses disks and the pad uses cartridges.
I just assumed when he used the word "mobile", he meant just playing on the go. I'm surprised many interpreted it as a game akin to Pokemon Go or something or the sort
I'm surprised you want it streamed, aren't you the one who doesn't like the latency that comes from most HD TVs? Streaming adds another delay no matter how good it is. I guess it could be a radical advance of some kind.
@retro_player_22 why is it "too bad?"
Pessimist vs optimist filling in the blanks.
@shani I've never watched his channel but i do know who he is and the poster you're responding to is correct, he's huge... figuratively speaking of course.
I have believed this for quite a while now. One interesting is if you can play on the home part even if someone has removed the mobile part.
@SuperToe Your splitting hairs their mate
If it's really a 2 in 1 console, then it's a good price.
BUT! For that price it better have at least a 1080p (preferably 2K) AMOLED display and the New Tegra 2 SoC !
If it's a low res LCD screen and the Tegra 1, it will be a rip off and I will pass and give up on Nintendo and we just keep the WiiU and 3DS until titles stop releasing for it.
In any way, if it's Tegra 1 I would pass in anyway and be sorely disapointed, as the Tegra 1 is barely better than the WiiU.
So I really hope the delay in reveal is because of the Tegra 2!
I just hope that whatever NX turns out to be, Nintendo needs to properly market it and keep the price down a lot if it won't have nicer graphics than the competition. All people will do is take a look at the specs and ask why they should pay more than the competition for less graphics, while a small number continue to back Nintendo. Problem is, Nintendo isn't happy with having a small dedicated fanbase that is loyal, they want Wii success or they move on like they did with Wii U.
Im scratching my head trying to figure out what is exactly so great or amazing about this concept.
@Ichiban The main target is probably the japanese market. They'll try to save it. I don't think they will succeed though. If a huge company like Sony can't save the japanese market I don't see a small company like Nintendo changing the trend.
@aaronsullivan Well, ideally I'd like to see both options, where you can play games at home wirelessly, sitting back on your couch and chilling without any tethering, or if you prefer you can plug in a USB cable or whatever and get the most latency-free experience possible. But, I want the consumer to have the ability to choose what they prefer, not Nintendo to pick one option that won't suit half the people. Basically, think of how Sony and Microsoft now both do it with their controllers; that's the idea solution as far as I'm concerned.
@retro_player_22 Those machines were pretty awesome—I think there will be a bit more to NX than that though.
@BensonUii FIRST Rumored Announce Was SEPTEMBER. Then October. Now November? At this rate, they'll announce it the week of😒
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Wow, the way some of you saw the word 'mobile' and ran with it...
For one thing, this would not in any way shape or form be innovative. When he said mobile game he did not mean cell phone game. Just that you can take it with you, with the hybrid console/portable all but confirmed.
What I think it will be, and what I have seen others speculate is this: Think of it has taking the Wii U idea of off screen play and taking it a step further. You still have a console plugged into the TV and you still have a controller with a screen except for this time it can be taken on the go.
But what I think the true innovation everyone is excited about is that the console part actually boosts performance. Playing on your tv get the full eye candy. Take it on a road trip as a replacement for the 3ds, drop the visuals down a bit ,and you don't need as much processing power.
Idk. Maybe. But then again it may not take much, or if they tie in mobile games they're already releasing that could be an easy way.
Guess we'll see.
I think he left a lot of room for interpretation:
I am envisioning a tablet like console (like Wiiu pad) that streams to TV via a hdmi stick (like chrome cast/ amazon fire) when you have to go, you unplug the streaming stick slide it into the tablet and play the mobile version of the game (which could mean the same game but without the secondary screen - for menu or map, similar to Wiiu).
I would be excited about that, especially if there is no separate console and I can walk to any TV with an HDMI input and cast my game.
The Francis character is supposed to be bratty. Do you know what satire/comedy even is or are you just making words happen? He does videos as himself too that are informative/opinion pieces. Climb down from your high horse, hater.
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