Pokémon GO has enraptured millions, generated plenty of cash for the companies involved and encouraged plenty of players to get on their feet in search of monsters.
However, it's worth noting that despite the promise of elusive beasts and the obvious health benefits involved, there are risks worth being wary of, especially if you're planning on playing late at night and carrying around lots of expensive livestreaming equipment.
Twitch streamer Rickeybot sadly found this out the hard way when he was mugged during a Pokémon GO livestream. Rickeybot was jumped from behind and knocked to the ground before his assailant - whose face is clearly seen on the feed - robbed him of his possessions.
The remainder of the video shows the criminal fleeing the scene and then factory resetting Rickeybot's phone, thus ending the stream. During this, those watching the stream continued to post comments, displaying their disgust and dismay.
We've embedded the video below but warn viewers that the footage is quite upsetting - please watch at your own discretion.
Rickeybot has since posted online that he has spoken to the police about the attack and has paid a visit to hospital to have his jaw looked at. His Twitch account has been suspended, presumably to lock-out the person who has stolen his gear. The criminal has yet to be apprehended but cleaned-up images are being circulated in an attempt to identify him.
This harrowing episode highlights the very real danger of livestreaming late at night and out in the open, even in a neighbourhood you know quite well. In an ideal world you'd be able to pursue your hobby without any need for caution, but sadly that's not the world we live in.
Everyone at Nintendo Life wishes Rickeybot a speedy recovery.
[source vg247.com]
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Woah!
Idiot. Hope they catch him.
Hope they get the person that robbed him. He can also call and have his phone company shut down all the features of his phone, turning it into a brick. And they can pinpoint the GPS and find out exactly where it is.
@RoboDuck exactly. No one should ever own anything that costs more than $2. Live in fear forever!
@RoboDuck You don't get to blame the victim for that scumbag's actions. He shouldn't have been mugged in the first place.
@RoboDuck Oh, yeah. Totally. He clearly was being an A-hole, and had it coming. The thief is the real victim here.
Yikes! I hope they find the guy who did this.
@RoboDuck Way to admit you're a criminal.
Why does the theif have a camera on his head? xD
@EverythingAmiibo Maybe he was Livestreaming his evening string of muggings.
This highlights the very real danger of walking through big city parks at night. Having a shiny phone pinpointing your location doesn't help.
@RoboDuck Wow, you're a piece of work. I bet you're one of those who blames women for getting raped, or the obese kid for getting bullied in school. People like you give fuel to these scumbags, and show them that it's okay to commit these horrific crimes. Shame on you.
@RoboDuck Way to be one of "those people." Probably blame children for forcing their parents to abuse them too. We better not EVER see you complaining if you are ever robbed or mugged. Cause as you said, it'd be your fault.
On topic, I feel his pain. I've been mugged once by 4 guys and they took my wallet (wit 12 bucks) and my 1st gen ipod. Kicked me in the face so hard it split my chin open. Hope this guy has a good recovery and they catch this dbag.
He's lucky he's still alive and (relatively) well.
It could have been worse. Much, much worse.
Here's hoping the thief gets caught.
@Stryker89 right on, yo!
@Equinox Oh, thank you!
BPOS
@RoboDuck you just much as a piece of crap as the guy who did it.I'm not a bully but u do beat bullies.and with your comment it proves you have no brains
@RoboDuck
Well, look what we have here. Maybe you are a friend of the mugger or one yourself? Because otherwise, I cannot imagine a normal human being that would justify a robbery.
I hope Rickeybot gets better soon. Its a pain that they took his cell phone, but I'm glad it wasn't anything worse. A kid here in my country was murdered last week when he was out late playing Pokemon GO, just to steal his phone...
It's not right to blame the victim, but blaming Pokemon Go for somebody getting mugged in Central Park really doesn't know anything about Central Park.
As somebody else said, that guy factory reset the phone might quick like, Pokemon Go had nothing to do w/ it, owning an iPhone is reason enough, he could have been playing Candy Crush. I bet to date more Candy Crush owners have had their phones stolen than P Go players.
iPhone theft in NYC is practically it's own industry, like car theft.
https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/tags/iphone-theft
press report on that ridiculous/poisoning comment and Nintendolife will probably delete it.
we just want this website to stay clean
Horrible, hope the scumbag goes to jail n gets a taste of his own medicine.
Team Plasma is real.
Hope the guy recovers from that injury though.
I've flagged Roboduck, get his butt outta here.
It's terrible how some people choose to make decisions like these. I hope the criminal is caught and Rickeybot gets well soon.
Haha poor @roboduck is getting his notifications blown up.
People REALLY pile on some one when they make a stupid comment on here, the first few people who replied to his comment said enough like usual but people keep it coming.
While I agree that what the mugger did was terrible, the streamer was taking a pretty big risk, despite all of the warnings you see about stuff like that.
Central Park is supposed to be a bit of a hot spot for muggers to begin with... going there at night while talking to a camera with your phone out is just drawing attention to yourself... and the streamer doesn't exactly look like he'd put up much of a fight.
At least this will discourage people from taking similar risks in the future, so hopefully we won't see anything like this happening again.
The comments on that YouTube video are cancer. Don't look at them.
@rjejr Pokemon Go had nothing to do with it? He was live-streaming the game. That surely contributed to him being an attractive target. Perhaps people livestream Candy Crush, I dunno. But the fact that he was playing a game which requires you to have your phone out while walking - and was livestreaming it - certainly contributed to his attractiveness to the mugger. It shouldn't have, we should be able to walk in peace with all of our worldly possessions, but in this case, he was live-streaming a popular game - Pokemon Go - which requires you to have your phone on show.
@Slim1999 geez man what is your problem?
@RoboDuck I don't want to feed the obvious troll but I need a meme for this.
That will do.
let's not...
You people need to calm down, or some of you are getting banned.
wow
@3MonthBeef A gun would have worsened the situation. Especially if the attacker discovered the gun.
@Damo This would have happened to anyone who was carrying around expensive equipment late at night in a place known to have muggings. Pokémon GO had little to do with what happened here and was more the result of the someone looking like a very easy target for the mugger. He was by himself, in a park known to have muggings, using his expensive equipment openly, and looked to be a fairly skinny individual. Of course he would be a prime target for criminals.
It's unfortunate that this happened to him, but people really should take greater precautions when travelling alone at night in a park that is full of criminal activity. Again, this had little to do with Pokémon GO and was merely the unfortunate result of being easy prey for a mugger. It sucks that this happened to him, and I hope they catch the guy who mugged him, but in the future, he really should be more careful to ensure this doesn't happen again. Carrying mace or even walking in groups will deter most criminals. Heck, playing the game in the daylight would have been far more advisable.
Regardless, I hope he makes a swift recovery, is able to be a bit smarter if he decides to go out in Central Park at night playing Pokemon GO, and I truly hope the one responsible gets what's coming to him.
@RoboDuck Whether you're being serious or not, that sort of comment is inappropriate and inflammatory. Deleted.
I'm shocked! How dare that man mug that other man. In the thousands of years of human civilization, I've never heard anything remotely similar to this. This is so deeply discerning as a human being. We are born above this. It's something I'd expect from wild dogs, stealing food from each other. But people? No.
What kind of world is this where a man can't play Pokemon Go at night with expensive streaming equipment and come home fully financially entact?
/ignorance
Please. Just make smart choices. You can complain about it all you want but the world is never going to change, so you might as well not be stupid. But hey I s survival of the rites. At the very least this man's story will serve as a cautionary tale to all those knuckleheads on my heir who think they live in a bubble of utopia.
@Clownshoes He wasn't just using his phone, he had a camera filming at the same time and (I think) another phone in use as well.
@Lucina Would he have been walking around central park looking for Pokestops if he hadn't been playing Pokemon Go?
@Damo And what kind of idiot mugger wouldn't be dissuaded had he known the guy was streaming everything?
The easy explanation is that the mugger didn't know it, or he would have avoided the camera. I don't see how the game affects anything.
@Clownshoes I think you may have gone off on a tangent there...
@Damo Did you click on my link? Did you see how many people have had their iPhone stolen just in NYC alone? None of them mentioned playing P Go.
https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/tags/iphone-theft/page/1
Do you know how many people get mugged in NY Each year?
http://www.wsj.com/articles/nyc-officials-tout-new-low-in-crime-but-homicide-rape-robbery-rose-1451959203
15,000 burglaries, 17,000 robberies, 20,000 felony assaults in 2015 How many of those victims do you think were playing Pokemon Go when it happened?
Lets put it this way, the odds of you having your iPhone stolen in NYC are probably a lot higher falling alseep on the subway than playing Pokemon Go. And on the bright side, falling asleep usually keeps you from getting punched in the face.
Lots of reasons to have an iPhone out late at night. Are you saying if he was playing Ingress he would not have been mugged, he was only mugged b/c of playing P Go?
BTW, I wasn't getting on you for the title or even covering the story, I think the title and the story are a relevant lesson, don't play Pokemon Go alone in the park at night. I was commenting on other people blaming Pokemon Go. But that's not why he was mugged, how as mugged for walking alone at night in the park, period. Carrying an iPhone was likely a contributing factor. Looking at the phone, whether it was an iPhone or Android,, also made him vulnerable. Guess when they catch the guy they can ask him if he mugged him for playing Pokemon go.
@Clownshoes The guy was playing Pokemon Go. So yes, this is relevant to the site as we cover Nintendo franchises, of which Pokemon is one of the biggest. Would it have happened if he were playing something else? Perhaps. Would he have been there were it not for Pokemon Go in this particular case? Unlikely, but Pokemon Go's popularity has obviously triggered a rise in people live streaming and the mobile nature of the game means that people go out into real world have leave themselves exposed, as has happened in this case.
Your second point: If seeing news about Pokemon on a Nintendo-centric site annoys you, I'm not entirely sure what to say.
Prepare for trouble...
Poor guy. Very brave of him to be doing that in the first place. I hope justice is served.
@rjejr I'm not doubting that people steal iPhones. My point is that this guy was making himself a huge target by live steaming himself playing Pokemon Go. He obviously increased the risk by a) wandering around night playing the game and b) having all his live stream gear on display.
The bottom line is crime sucks, I guess. But Pokemon Go definitely played a role here. The game put him in that position.
@Damo It doesn't matter what his reasons for coming to the park were. Be he looking for Pokestops or texting while walking through the park, it doesn't matter. The criminal didn't rob him and take his phone cause he was playing Pokemon GO, he robbed him cause he was alone, with expensive equipment, at night, and he didn't look like he could physically fight back. Thus, the criminal robbed him. It would have happened to anyone else, regardless of what they're doing on their phone.
Playing Pokémon GO and looking for Pokestops in a park at night, alone, isn't the cause of what happened to the victim. Him having a lack of awareness, in a dangerous position where we could easily be mugged, alone, in a well known place full of crime that occurs at night, without any protection or company, that is what made him a likely target for the criminal, Pokémon GO or not.
Welcome to Noo Yawk! Such a lovely city.
But seriously, that guy got hit hard. I feel so bad for him. Hope he doesn't have to get his jaw wired shut or something. And hopefully the guy that did it gets busted soon, although pieces of crap like him are all too common and locking one thug up won't make any difference in that, unfortunately.
Also, like the article says, be careful playing this game when you're out at night. Take a friend and watch out for each other, or stick to busy areas.
@Damo Don't argue in the comments, gcunit will get you banned!
@Clownshoes Go to IGN then.
It's dangerous to go alone.
So the guy was wondering around central park alone at night with an iphone and livestreaming equipment out in the open?
He might as well have been wearing a sign that said "Mug Me."
And yeah, that mugger has done this before. Look how quickly he reformatted that phone.
Man, this is brutal. My heart goes out to him.
I know it is technically his fault for trying to live stream at night, but seriously... Can we not do anything outside anymore without the risk of getting involved in a predicament?
What did RoboDuck say? He deleted his comment.
I don't think the expensive phone was to blame, or the live streaming, or the lure of Pokemon Go.
This man has every right to do what he wants wherever and whenever he wants to without fear of being attacked by some disgusting thug.
Stop arguing about it guys. Put that energy into kicking the crap out of the scumbag who attacked the poor man.
@Clownshoes Nothing to do with Nintendo? Nintendo is an equal one-third owner of Pokémon regardless of what platform it releases on, and they invested heavily in Niantic with the specific goal of developing Pokémon Go, so they're partial owners of that company as well. There's a reason the word 'Nintendo' shows up on the start screen for Pokémon Go, but I guess you missed that part.
@Dpullam It's not technically "his fault," persay: it's fully the fault of the mugger. Moral blame belongs with the aggressor alone. With that said, the world is the way it is, not the way we want it to be, and we have to operate within it with that understanding.
@rjejr You're not wrong about the location and the frequency of phone theft, but @Damo has a point about the nature of Pokemon Go to entice people into areas they wouldn't normally go more often and at different times than the usually would. Candy Crush wouldn't come out if you were alone at night in Central Park would it? And would you go walk there alone at night just to play Candy Crush?
Still, Pokemon Go doesn't make people do things it just gives them a reason to. Same as the thief isn't made to go mug someone because they were so brazen as to flash their riches in an easy location.
@HappyMaskedGuy Not to be argumentative, but the expensive phone was literally the only reason it happened. Did you watch the video? The guy punched the streamer in the face and then immediately ran off with the phone, and then did a factory reset. So stealing the phone was the whole point.
@aaronsullivan Right, and Pokémon Go doesn't just lure people out into the night, it has them focus all of their attention on the phone/the game, making them distracted and thus easy targets. Damien definitely has a point, people just like to argue.
Didn't people used to get mugged for their Air Jordan's back in the day? You can't even walk around in clothes that aren't from Primark unless you want to be left nude on the streets if you believe in the notion that if you have nice things prepare to have them stolen.
@-DEMISE- Of course he wanted the phone! My point was simply that the fault does not lie with Pokemon Go, or live streaming, or even the expensive phone- the problem here is robbery, which happens to anyone. I'll bet you own a smartphone and look at it in public? Or at least know someone who does? Instead of blaming everything else, let's look at the real bloody problem- the bast*** who committed this disgusting crime.
@-DEMISE- 'Damien definitely has a point, people just like to argue'.
I gather you are including yourself in that particular demographic ;p
This shouldn't be about the dangers of playing Pokemon Go. The phone would have stolen regardless of what the poor person was looking at on the phone.
Pack heat. Problem solved.
@HappyMaskedGuy
Completely agree. The problem is the robber and not the victim.
Yeah, it may be our reality that you should not go out at night to play since it is not safe. But still, it isn't Pokemon GO's fault. He could have been texting and the mugger would still have stolen the phone.
Let's just be happy it wasn't worse. He can heal his jaw, but if he was stabbed or shot, it would be a different story.
@bezerker99 Because, in that situation, after the guy snuck up behind you and accosted you, you would have spun around and smoked the guy like a regular gunslinger, right? Escalating the level of violence in a situation always works out in the victim's favor, after all.
How sickening. I hope the mugger gets caught and gets more than a DoubleSlap on the wrist.
I'm glad the victim seems to be doing okay, at least. Things could have turned out a lot worse than an injured jaw.
Why all the negative comments? The guy was walking around in the dark with his face to his phone, oblivious of his surroundings. He's lucky that he did not get killed. You SJW's fish for these kinds of comments..so pathetic.
@HappyMaskedGuy I don't walk around in dark parks by myself in the middle of the night, least of all one like Central Park. And believe it or not, if I am out by myself at night, I actually make a point of not flashing my expensive iPhone, or at least I don't hold it out in front of my face and stare into it as I walk around and ignore my surroundings for extended periods.
It's not blaming the victim to analyze the facts of a given story and looking for some semblance of a lesson from it. Obviously the best lesson should be "don't mug people," but since crime and violence have been a common part of human existence since day one and no one can even hope to change that, the next best response to a story like this can and should reasonably be "take a few basic steps to mitigate as much of the risk of being mugged as possible." Because the way the world SHOULD BE won't save you from the way the world IS.
Maybe it should be reported as a hate crime?
oh man that is scary
@RoboDuck please go back to bed and shut your mouth forever.
@-DEMISE- #69
I just want to point out that the word "Nintendo" doesn't show up ANYWHERE in the game. Not even in the terms of service section. I agree with the point you were making, but I just found that to be interesting.
That's not the world we live in, sure.
But change your subtitle. "Dangers of playing Pokemon?" Are you nuts?
The only thing this highlights is some people are butts.
It's not dangerous - it's buttholian to even think there's a time of day where it's expected to be more likely to be robbed.
So you should read: "highlights there are buttholes in this world. " anything beyond that is weak.
Enough with the profanity, people.
@RoboDuck Can someone do away with this distasteful, hateful, vulgar troll for good. Why is 'it' back? Did you really just use that term? You are vile.
I despise victim blaming. This waste of flesh committed a crime. I only wish he had run in front of a bus or a subway train while fleeing... and left the phone unscathed.
For the love crap people. Stop victim blaming. He did nothing wrong at all. The is no law against walking wherever you want when you want. There are, however, many laws against the sort of crime this predatory filth committed. I only wish the penalty for all violent crime was much, much harsher.
@Damo ..................You able to close the comment section? Or is that for the admins? I feel like we should just go ahead and stop this for good. >_>
@-DEMISE- I'm sorry, but to say that crime is a fact of life and in any way unpreventable or inevitable is a completely ludicrous argument.
So should we just lay back and let these monsters tell us what we can and cannot do then?
Instead of focusing on what the victim did wrong, why not sympathise with him instead? This event would have been traumatic, and will leave lasting scars, both mental and physical. You weren't there, so stop criticising a man doing nothing but wanting to innocently enjoy himself. Jeez. Reminds me of those idiots telling women not to dress how they want to in case they get assaulted.
@Joeynator3000 You can't post an article openly inviting people as a 'Taking Point' then shut it down as soon as people get into areas of a discussion which you might not find agreeable.
Not sure what your idea of a discussion is- certainly isn't you inflicting your powers over everyone else to influence what is or is not read or said.
That's not the reason why I think they should close the comments section...>_>
Anyways I'm done here.
@Damo
"but in this case, he was live-streaming a popular game - Pokemon Go - which requires you to have your phone on show."
Any usage of ones phone, be it to make a call, check email or send a text, requires you to have your phone on 'show'.
@Joeynator3000 Why do you want them to shut it down? I do hope you know that I am not asking this in an argumentative way, I'm just genuinely interested.
Poor guy, hope his jaw isn't too damaged and he's not too shaken up by it all.
Really hope they find this scumbag soon, before he does this again to someone else.
@Tsusasi
"He did nothing wrong at all. The is no law against walking wherever you want when you want."
No. But there's also something called 'common sense' which most people have, which prevents them from putting themselves into potentially dangerous situations and making themselves a target.
By the way, there's also no law against buying a bottle of hot sauce and then pouring it into your eyes. So if someone does that and goes blind, is it okay to question their judgement? Or is that victim blaming?
@RetroRider
Ikr? It was probably a stupid comment, but only 2 or 3 people should call him out for it.
I remember when I messed up with the cherry episode. Literally, everyone hated me and I very nearly left Nintendo Life.
Jesus people, a nitwit making an unworthy comment doesn't equal getting his a*s kicked from the entire website! PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT! Even Damo was on me at the time!
Rant over, back to the article.
Criminal scum. People like him are what makes the world how it is today. No wonder all the children in a neighborhood are inside, and not playing in the yard.
Smart kids. They know what's up. (I think.)
@HappyMaskedGuy You seem to be struggling with the abstraction of this argument. Saying that "crime is an unavoidable fact of life" is not the same as saying "we should accept crime and not fight back against it." It's truly odd that you would jump to that conclusion, because it means that you skipped several much more logical conclusions to get there.
As for the rest of your comment, first: go ahead and read my comment (#56), because I already posted my sympathies. Expressing sympathy for the victim while pointing out ways to avoid being victimized in the same way are not mutually exclusive acts. Second, I really hope that you have someone in your life that can help you make decisions pertaining to your own safety and well being, because you seem to have a dearth of common sense. I could probably link a thousand news stories about people getting victimized in some way while playing Pokemon Go, and they probably all include a quote from police saying something like "be aware of your surroundings when you're playing this game, especially at night, and take steps to avoid putting yourself in potentially unsafe situations." That doesn't mean that the police are blaming those victims and letting their muggers go free, it means that they want people to practice discretion so that their would-be muggers don't get the opportunity to mug them in the first place.
@jahasnell "I just want to point out that the word "Nintendo" doesn't show up ANYWHERE in the game. Not even in the terms of service section. I agree with the point you were making, but I just found that to be interesting."
Bottom left of the picture
http://www.bewebsmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/pokemon-go-enter-birthdate.jpg
@Ralizah Yeah, i would. Not to condone violence but I've been attacked before. You can def fight back and reach for your weapon. Trust me.
@WilliamCalley For nowhere near the same amount of time that Pokemon GO does. You have to have your phone out the entire time. Plus, as I've stated, he was live-streaming it with a camera and a second phone.
@-DEMISE- Believe it baby.
@-DEMISE- Common sense is for individuals to use as they see fit. I climb, dive and spend time doing things that could result in injury or death. But it's down to my own judgement as to whether or not I take a risk. Crime is crime. It shouldn't be tolerated under a guise of 'well, he should done X'. I do actually understand your point- but I don't happen to agree with the foundations of it.
@gcunit Oh I believe it, I just think it's one of the craziest, most blatant cases of a double standard that I've ever seen. Argue about a Metroid game in the comments of a Metroid article: get banned. Post inflammatory troll comments and use the 'R' word: stick around, we'll just edit a couple words for you. Great work.
@-DEMISE- I totally agree with you on that one though. Zero tolerance for people posting offensive, derogatory language like that particular 'R' word.
@HappyMaskedGuy Oh boy. Okay, AGAIN I will say this: NO ONE IS TOLERATING CRIME. No. One. You are conflating the meanings of two completely separate statements. Does the act of mugging someone and stealing their phone deserve condemnation and prosecution? Yes. Is taking a few very simple steps to keep yourself safe a good idea? Yes. It SHOULD strike you as obvious that these two lines of thinking can in fact coexist.
@bezerker99 Be that as it may, more often than not, involving a lethal weapon and escalating the level of violence in a street encounter is going to make the situation more dangerous for everyone involved. So, no, "packing heat" is not an all-purpose solution for the average person.
He'd be better off investing in a taser or pepper spray.
@WilliamCalley Gotta love the censorship in the comments section. He's a butt lol.
On point, I know what you're saying and I disagree. If it's common sense to not play while you're out, regardless of time, you just surrendered a third of your time for criminals to run amok.
I consider it unacceptable. You should be able to run naked in a park at night and it should still be the same criminal act to get robbed right there.
I know reality is suggesting that to be less of a wise move, I'm just making sure people realise it's insane that that particular notion has become acceptable.
"Don't take out your phone at night"? Pathetic.
@erv
"Don't take out your phone at night?Pathetic."
Not quite. Let me correct you.
"Don't take your phone out at night in one of the most crime ridden areas in the city while being completely unaware of your own surroundings as you focus all your attention on a screen? Absolutely not"
@-DEMISE- You aren't very good at considering other people's perspectives are you? No need to get your briefs in a bunch. I think you are the one who is requiring a nice, slow explanation of an opinion which differs to yours. I understand your points. As I SAID- such precautions are an individual's choice. People who take precautions also get robbed or victimised you know.
Condescending remarks don't contribute anything.
@WilliamCalley read the post. I agree with that.
But following that, I consider it unacceptable that people have accepted a place like that to be like that.
The analysis is correct. The situation isn't.
I'm confused. Where are the comments where people are saying that the mugger shoudn't be apprehended and punished for his crime?
@HappyMaskedGuy This is honestly one of the strangest conversations I've ever had on this site, and I've had a lot of them. The fact that I have to keep repeating the same thing over and over again is pretty strong evidence that your "slow explanation" theory is incorrect. Also, it's funny and ironic that you said that and then finished with "Condescending remarks don't contribute to anything." I actually lol'ed at that.
"As I SAID- such precautions are an individual's choice."
Correct. And the consequences of taking/not taking such precautions also fall to that same individual.
"People who take precautions also get robbed or victimised you know."
And people who wear seatbelts and obey the speed limit while driving still die in car accidents, but what's your point? Limiting risk as much as possible is not at all unwise, even if you can't avoid 100% of all risk. What you're saying completely contradicts your previous comment where you said that just because crime is a fact of life doesn't mean that we have to accept and tolerate crime. Then by that same token, just because some risks are unavoidable, that doesn't mean that we should throw our hands up in defeat and stop trying to avoid risk when we can.
@Ralizah It's not that people aren't saying he shouldn't be punished, or that the act wasn't reprehensible. However there are people who seem to think that the victim is at fault for not taking precautions. Yes, precautions are a good idea, but they should not be necessary, nor should the victim of the crime be criticised for the crime committed against him. If it was somebody of diminished responsibility, like a disabled person, would those same people say that the disabled person was at fault?
Hence the disagreements.
@Damo
"For nowhere near the same amount of time that Pokemon GO does. You have to have your phone out the entire time."
Really? Cuz my phone is out for hours when I'm talking to yo mama!!! OOOOOHHH!
@HappyMaskedGuy
If someone gets in a minor car accident and either dies or suffers severe injuries as a result of not wearing a seatbelt, they are roundly criticized for not taking the proper precautions.
Should the guy have been robbed? Absolutely not. Nor should he be absolved of all personal responsibility for putting himself in the risky situation which allowed this to happen to him.
Walking around in Central Park alone after midnight while carrying around hundreds (thousands?) of dollars of electronics is not a smart/safe thing to do no matter how you try to frame it. The victim willingly engaged in this risky behavior, and unfortunately he did it around the wrong person.
@HappyMaskedGuy Precautions shouldn't be necessary, but they often are. At least, if you don't want to significantly raise your chances of being the target of a crime. Is that fair? Probably not. But life isn't fair, unfortunately.
As a non-heterosexual person living in the American South, I'm probably more likely to be targeted for violence than the average heterosexual person, for example. SHOULD I be able to go into a bar by myself at night in some hillbilly hovel and flirt with every drunk homophobe there without fear of reprisal? Of course I should. But, things being as they are, doing that would probably make it significantly more likely that somebody would follow me out and leave me a broken mess in the back alley. That being the case, it would be exceptionally foolish if I put myself in that situation. I can go flirt with guys somewhere else, where the likelihood of being left a broken mess is significantly lower. It's common sense to not take stupid risks for no good reason. Stupid risks are stupid risks, regardless of who is at fault.
@-DEMISE- Can I suggest you take into consideration that there's more than one moderator around here, and that we're not all full-time trawling over every post made?
I was at work when all this kicked off. All I've done is check the Moderator Alerts, watch the clip, and delete the post I felt was inappropriate (in the context of the content of the video and the level of feeling here) and that kicked off the hoo-hah.
I didn't know about the r-word comment until you just brought my attention to it; someone else had already edited it.
If you didn't deserve your ban the senior mods would not have banned you. Move on from it. If I find you name-checking me again in a similar context to what you've done in this section then I'll consider it harassment.
@Ralizah You keep your pepper spray. I know how to protect me and my family properly. :3
Macho, macho man.
I want to be... a macho man!
@gcunit "If you didn't deserve your ban the senior mods would not have banned you."
I don't think a single person here actually believes that.
"If I find you name-checking me again in a similar context to what you've done in this section then I'll consider it harassment."
You can consider it whatever you want, but in all sincerety, I think it would be best if you curbed your sensitivity when you sign on to "moderate". Take it from someone who spent years and years moderating sites both bigger and smaller than this one, it doesn't do anyone any good to go around threatening people who call you out and telling on them to the admins. It just makes it harder for you to do your job in the future. People commenting on the job you're doing does not equal harassment. Digest the criticism and learn from it, and then take your own advice and "move on". Just a suggestion, but by all means, go ask whoever to ban me again.
@iGen I think I remember you, were people even trying to shame you even on the forums? I might be thinking of some one else, he got it really bad.
But that's how the community is here, no one in the comments section can really get to know each other so people can get really divided here.
The comments layout sucks actually, I'd prefer them to be completely changed to something like disqus.
@rjejr Exactly why I try not to take my phone out when I visit NYC. I will say that is one thing I like about the apple watch I can check google maps hands free. Granted, it costs the same as my iphone but at least it is harder to remove something attached to my hand and easily covered by my clothes.
I do wish the victim a speedy recovery and I hope they catch the jerk that robbed him.
@-DEMISE- Why do you feel threatened?
I can simply see how you operate and I'm nipping it in the bud.
But thanks for crediting me for being responsible for everything that goes on around here. I'm flattered. You're mistaken.
@-DEMISE- It's amazing how you manage to write some very well-thought and seemingly well-intended posts...
Just a suggestion, but by all means, go ask whoever to ban me again.
...yet you always screw it up with the passive-aggressive attitude at the end. This is just constructive criticism from my part, mind you, I have no beef in your quarrel.
@ElementSponge Something along the lines of "the guy is an idiot and I would have mugged him myself"
@Ralizah Lets just say we are in an imaginary sphere where we can have an opinion which is theoretical and outside of a reality which has or has not happened.
I hear the same things, about 'the real world' and 'thats how the world is'.
There was a time when people accepted that the world was flat, that slavery was a way of life, and when women simply could not vote because they lacked the mental capacity to make important decisions, because 'thats how it was'.
Maybe I'm just idealistic, but I choose to never accept that attitude. My stance on this situation remains- the victim is a victim. Not a stupid participant in his own circumstance. All this negativity could have been better harnessed to condemn a criminal, instead of 'should have' or 'could have'. Or even worse; 'I would'.
I don't see why people are finding that hard to agree with, but there you go.
And mate, you go flirt with whoever you feel like. If they don't like it, then they are missing out on a compliment, regardless of their sexuality.
One of the reasons I'm very glad not to be living in America. Too many scumbags like this criminal.
@TimtendoGaming Any city has them buddy. So much of it is also down to non-investment in poor areas. Education and positive conditioning help to foster a healthier mental attitude. Sadly America is far behind in this respect.
Alright, this is gonna be very anecdotal, but it leads to a point, which by buddy @rjejr can appreciate.
The past two days of my job, in a phone store, as a concierge, has been hell. Had two guys ask me if I even work there, because I'm not allowed to advise them on purchases in any way, despite wearing uniform and doing my job, and another elderly couple said my job, to register people in a queue and assign advisors, was a waste of time and an inconvenience to customers as they expect immediate service from someone who can help.
As you can expect, my general attitude towards people has gone from "Making a business run smoothly and efficiently, getting info I need from customers to make things fast, and being appreciated" to "I'm the business butt and I take all the immediate abuse so the advisors don't".
On that note, as a result, I am going to fully explore my sociopathic view of humanity, regarding this case.
1) The victim in question was foolish in his actions, regarding expensive equipment in unsafe areas, regardless of purpose for the excursion
2) The mugger is a prat, short and simple, and shows that those with good intentions, albeit misinformed, are easily targeted.
3) No one is innocent. All humans want is quick cash, fame, or their lives to be inconvenienced.
Screw humanity, seriously, screw it. No one can get along, everything offends everyone else, everyone is to blame for something, Pokémon GO is terrible, when is the NX being revealed, Mobile sucks, Nintendoomed, Listen to your fans, #feminism.
Am I missing anything, or is humanity really this bad?
@BLPs I agree, human beings are a bloody nightmare. I still say we should support the guy who got mugged for living his life the way he wants to. I applaud him.
I hope the mugger gets his comeuppance however. I also hope that New York invests more in inner city areas and deprived communities so that No-One ever needs to mug anyone out of financial necessity.
Good people can guide the masses. Stay positive man
@BLPs Also, remember that offense is taken- not given
@-DEMISE- Your passive aggressive attitude doesn't help lend weight to your arguments. Take that as some constructive criticism eh? And don't ever talk to me in that condescending manner again.
@gcunit I don't feel threatened in a serious or meaningful way, but you DID just threaten me with some form of action for "harassment" so....
And anyway, I specifically called you out because I saw you commenting in this thread, the very same thread wherein another commenter was in very clear violation of the "community rules" and yet you merely slapped him on the wrist. I found that to be noteworthy, knowing your history as a mod here.
@bezerker99 "Pack heat. Problem solved."
Nobody ever gets mugged for a Samsung Galaxy Note 7.
@HappyMaskedGuy "And don't ever talk to me in that condescending manner again."
Says the person who called my opinion "completely ludicrous", implied that I'm "slow" and basically called me an "idiot", and told me "No need to get your briefs in a bunch." I'm honestly curious what you would call any of those statements if not "condsecending". Forget passive-aggresive, that's just flat out aggressive. Sorry, guy, but you are quite a hypocrite.
@HappyMaskedGuy
If @-DEMISE- gets banned for his constant questioning of the mod, will you consider him the victim or do you believe his own actions had something to do with it??
@WilliamCalley It's his choice! The beauty of individuality I actually really do agree with his approach to questioning mods though. Ironic stuff.
@rjejr "We're out of grenades!"
"Throw the Note 7s!"
@HappyMaskedGuy The good guide the way indeed. This chap needs support yes, not totally blameless and I cant speak for NYC as I'm British, but the situation across the States seems pretty bad with this sort of thing, as it is anywhere. And yeah, offense is taken. I just wish people in many cases would get over it.
@MarcelRguez It's not a "passive-aggressive attitude" because it's neither passive nor aggressive, nor is it an attitude. It's a direct reference to things that have actually happened in the past with that specific person.
@-DEMISE- Whenever I see your comments on an article, I just know that I won't be disappointed. The retorts, the knowledge, not being afraid to say it as it is. It's just marvellous stuff! Just thought you should know.
@-DEMISE- Read your own replies in the thread with an air of humility. You might be surprised by how condescendingly you communicate your responses, guy. I'm no hypocrite- but I am prone to the human flaw of aggressively defending myself against folks like yourself. Pardon my rudeness
Oh actually- I'm not perfect! I occassionally can be a hypocrite.
Sadly, unlike @-DEMISE-, I am feeble and human. Woe is me.
@-DEMISE- I don't see what good it does to your case getting into a petty fight with a mod because of a temporary ban, deserved or not. You are the one "who spent years and years moderating sites both bigger and smaller than this one", I find it weird that you wouldn't know better than this.
It's your public image, I guess.
@MarcelRguez He's predictably unpredictably volatile. Provides great sport on the site though, I must admit
@HappyMaskedGuy I don't have to pardon your rudeness because I didn't take offense by any of it, since you're a random stranger on the internet. But I have to inform you that yes, you are indeed a hypocrite. You can't say blatantly rude/offensive things to people while simultaneously telling them that they need to stop being rude/offensive or "condescending", as you like to keep putting it. Saying those things that you said and then telling someone that they need "humility" IS condescending, and on the whole, it's all hypocritical.
I don't really care though. Don't beat yourself up over it.
@-DEMISE- It's all good man I'm glad you understand. Remember- it's okay to have conflicting opinions on subjects that are complex in nature- after all, you'd have to be an idiot to see things in either black or white
@MarcelRguez Know better than what? There's no real penalty for arguing with a mod, even if you get banned by one. Anyway, I honestly don't care what people think of me. When I smell metaphorical bullcrap in the virtual ether, I spray my figurative air freshener. I don't give much thought to whether or not other people in the room like the scent I chose.
@HappyMaskedGuy No worries. I only say what I believe, and I'm sure you're just doing the same. The internet just makes things seem more harsh than they really are.
@-DEMISE- Spoken like a true virtual badass. I must admit- I enjoy your comments. You keep me on my toes, thats for sure. I reckon in real life, we'd probably get on quite well lol.
@Lucina Thanks, I do what I can.
@-DEMISE- I applaud you for that but, again, you aren't achieving anything. You're just giving people reasons to discredit your every post as random argumentative bullcrap.
@MarcelRguez Oh well. What is anyone here achieving? What are you achieving right now, with these comments? None of this actually matters. This is the comment section on a website called Nintendo Life, not the United Nations or something.
@HappyMaskedGuy lol let's not get carried away.
@-DEMISE- Ach well, perhaps I'm just too much of a blind optimist. Never mind- we can agree plenty on here
Kids, this is not the time nor the place to fight each other.
@-DEMISE- I'm trying to make you see that if you want to complain about mods, there are better and more effective ways to do that than making a scene on a comments section. Speaking with him in private about your ban, for example, would have been a more fruitful course of action.
Then again, I'm getting the impression that you don't care about that, so that's fine.
@MarcelRguez "Speaking with him in private about your ban, for example, would have been a more fruitful course of action."
I absolutely guarantee, in no uncertain terms, that this is incorrect.
@HappyMaskedGuy It's true, there are no doubt many things we agree on. I'm not completely unreasonable, after all
@-DEMISE- Well, glad to hear you at least tried.
@RetroRider
I'm not sure, that was early last year. And I have forgotten a lot of it, as have most people on this website.
I believe I went by 'Dolphin64' though, if that helps.
Some dude even damned the day I might have kids, because of one dumbas* comment I made on a stupid website. I even APOLOGIZED, MULTIPLE TIMES. It took MONTHS of being under the radar and a ton of thinking before I could even step foot anywhere near here again.
I adore and despise the internet. I love it for it's infinite amount of knowledge that you can access in less than 10 seconds, and I hate it for most of the people that reside on it's servers, because a whole ton of them are complete d-bags.
Sorry to unload this on you.
@iGen That's fine, I agree the internet can be a wonderful place of information but at the same time the people who you encounter can often be annoying behind their comfy computer screen. Whether they think they are doing "good" or not.
People want to punish others with their words as much as they can online if some one made an oopsie. You'd think those people never made a mistake online before, and they just make themselves sometimes look worse than the original person they're shaming.
Sheesh, what a train-wreck of a comment section.
Hope the kid recovers smoothly. Always awful to read about such stories.
Im hoping he gets recover, honestly though, it woulds have been better to play during day, as more people are up during the day and less likely of getting a saturation like this. but it sucks for that too happen to him, and im hoping they caught the guy that did this.
Wow. This thread turned into a group therapy session from Hell.
Very sad.
@BLPs
@BLPs "Am I missing anything, or is humanity really this bad?"
Pretty much. Though I do think things were always this bad, if not worse, but nobody had smartphones during slavery or in sweatshops before unions, so most of the evil was kept secret.
I do think there was a false period lull during the 50's and 60s, after 2 great world wars and "the pill" lead to open sexual promiscuity everybody was feeling good about themselves. Abolished Jim Crow laws. Jobs were plentiful. Life was good. Then recession after recession, then 9/11, and the great almost depression. People live longer, which is great for them but harder on their kids and grand kids who have to take care of them. The Illuminati (1%, whatever you want to call them) are out of the closet and parading their power around. Greed is good.
So I think life is better now that throughout most of human history - health care, tech, nutrition, openness and understanding - but after say 30 or 40 great years beginning in 1945 lasting thru the early 90's, the middle class world has turned around and gone dramatically downhill. Most of the poeple who lived thru the great depression (real one in 1919) are dead now, so they aren't around to remind us how good we have it. All we have are people who grew up during the better prosperous times telling us how much kids suck today. So it's still better than it was prior to 1945, but the baseline was perhaps raised to high by and for the baby boomers.
Oh, and bad news sells. Zika, Brexit, war, war, war. I'm not sure even the cure for cancer could stay on the front page more than a day. And everybody wants to see how much worse everybody else has it. So w/ 24 hour news via cable, Facebook, Twitter and the like, we are constantly bombarding ourselves w/ negativity. It's 1 never-ending depressing news stream. Except from Ntinedo HQ, they still think it's 1809.
sorry to answer your rhetorical question w/ my Soc 101 lecture notes, kind of got carried away again
@rjejr That's fine, ya always cheer me up. Sad that news is Brad Pitt getting divorced. Why can't focus on good stuff more often? Just as long as it matters
@BLPs "Brad Pitt getting divorced"
Well there's your first problem, celebrity gossip. I can't believe their marriage lasted this long. Oh great, now you have me doing it.
Know what I wonder, what happens to the world pysche when the Queen passes away. I'm not even British but there has always been 1 Queen my enitre life. I've always assumed her passing would bring about some Nostradamus doomsday prophecy. I know there will be another Queen, but there will never be another Queen. Not THE Queen. That's like Adam Lambert singing for Queen.
@BLPs Oh look, b/c we didn't have enough to worry about, now the sky is falling.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/satellites/a22936/tiangong-falling-to-earth/
But on the bright side, we'll be able to take videos of our cities burning in 8k.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/sandisks-1tb-sd-card/
It all just depends on how you look at it.
@rjejr Well, I have some good news, despite being under an NDA, but that game I'm making is FINALLY going to have a home, now Ive just gotta get on with it XD
@BLPs Well good news is good, glad to hear it.
@rjejr Good news until you realise how much money I need, and people to pr and qa and such. Oh and that the poor thing is dead in the water with no sight of its mysterious replacement
@Clownshoes Guess you missed this post (bottom left of picture):
http://www.bewebsmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/pokemon-go-enter-birthdate.jpg
lol at you thinking I'M the idiot here.
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