Round Up: Metroid Prime: Federation Force Predictably Divides Opinion

Uh-oh

Spot the odd one out.

I spent a few hours looking at reviews this morning. There are many 5-6s, 7s and 8s to this game. It is a good game wrapped up in a lot of controversy. I have also read a few reviews (professional and niche) critics become biased by the whole "hate Federation Force". It really shows how pathetic people can be.

So what would I say? Nothing. I am not going to recommend or slam the game. All I am going to say is that it is a good game. You want a portable FPS? It's here. Team work? That's there too. Next Level Games quality? Yup.

End of the day, this is a game that people need to decide whether they will enjoy it rather than follow the views of critics. Make your own choice people. It was always going to be a mixed reception review. No matter how good it was.

I chose to buy it because it looks like a fun game with friends. That's good enough for me.

It doesn't look as bad as it initially did, though Nintendo Life's score seems too high.

@crimsontadpoles A higher score just means the reviewer liked the game more. Everyone has their preference. The other scores should NEVER be a factor for a game reviewer.

Lets face it. Federation Force was an undesired game by fans from the beginning. It hasnt become an uber game. So I dont blame the reviewers. I have it preordered and will get it when it comes out ineurope. Could be a lot of fun

It's just sad how the other critics play the game just to reinforce the bad aspects of it. When they are done they just write their articles and give the game a bad score.
Just how sad and pathetic can those critics like IGN or destructoid be? Theirs are very bad and biased opinions (I know because I read ORAS review) and should not be taken seriously but sadly they are and that is a reality that's hard to ignore.
FF has been a truly target for controversy but because of the Art style and the co-op mechanic that is very different from classic Metroid titles. Yet, I cannot say that this game truly is garbage without actually playing it.
The problem mainly consists in that players find a game they find great and expect developers to stay by that idea, to recreate that same experience over and over again. Though they criticize true repetitive games like CoD or FIFA.
Yet when they take that experience and tweak it a bit in order to try and give that same satisfying experience in a different approach, players get all angry and worked up because it is not what they wanted, because developers don't stay the same.
Is there no common sense? The 3ds lifespan will end soon. A shooter like this is obviously a spin-off from the Prime series, besides, why would Nintendo waste resources when the Nx is just around the corner? Is there no common sense that Nintendo is saving the original Metroid or Metroid Prime reveal until then?
Come on people.
I will try Federation Force, and I am really looking forward to it. I applaud to the attempt at innovation and I humbly request to stop whining and actually try to give this game the credit it really deserves. (This last request is only for angry fans)

Not a classic Metroid game but I'm over that, because ya know I'm a grown up child, still looks fun though so I'm gonna give it a shot. Also wanna support Next Level Games - Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon is a favourite all time title of mine.

Wow, geez, there really is no consistency to these is there? I guess it's going to be one of those "you have to try it and judge for yourself" kind of scenarios. Sadly I don't think many people are even going to give it a chance.

@UberMadman You would be surprised. I was at Streetpass North Wales's event (it was a holiday trip). The sheer amount of enjoyment from people Blast Ball was hilarious.

They were getting so competitive you could imagine it being a real sport XD

The good reviews seem to be from Nintendo minded sites (although some of them still dont like it) so sites that rate and compare games in a nintendo bubble. The low scores seem to be from those whom judge it in a fully open multi platform space......personally i tend to on average value those reviews more.....ultimately no good single player counts me out same is it does for most games of that ilck

Looks like fun to be, so I'll be buying it. I'm not going to write it off because it decides to do something different

Can't ever trust reviews written on this site. It's like most of the content was written by Nintendo themselves.

There is barely an honest critique of the games reviewed on here, everything seems to be brilliant, especially Nintendo developed titles.

I wouldn't trust a bloody word Nintendo Life said regarding games they review. You review games more like fans.

Well I did some scouting myself, and combining the scores from this article with some others from another one and some from metacritic, I've come up with a comprehensive review guide.

Graded reviews (from least to greatest):

4.5/10 - Nintendo Enthusiast
5.5/10 - Destructoid
5.9/10 - IGN
7/10 - Evereye
7/10 - SpazioGaming
7/10 - TheGamesMachine
7/10 - Attack of the Fanboy
7/10 - Dualshockers
7/10 - God is a Geek
8/10 - Nintendo Life
8/10 - Nintendo Insider
9/10 - Nintendo World Report

The general consensus seems to be 7/10, which is decent but not spectacular. It would seem that the "Nintendo" site reviewers are most biased towards liking it... except Nintendo Enthusiast, who hated it the most.

Ungraded reviews (from most scathing to most praising, to the best of my ability):

"[ends] up falling a little short" - Eurogamer

"just enough here to make it worthwhile for those looking for a unique multiplayer experience" - Nintendo Everything

"even if this game doesn't fully deserve to wear the name Metroid, it's an excellent portable FPS in its own right" - USGamer

"one of the most pleasant surprises of the season" - Kotaku

"I like it a lot... 3DS shooter with impeccable mission variety that you can enjoy with your friends" - GameXplain

The unscored reviews tend to be much more positive - at worst it falls a little short, at best it's a highly recommendable portable multiplayer shooter.

Based on all these reviews, I get the sense that the game actually does have merit to it, but one must try it for themselves to see if it's worth your time.

All the triggering of Samus fanboys just by the subtitle of this site's review, though.

The game's a spin-off using the same interface and world of the main Metroid Prime games. It's definitely a Prime game, just with a different focus than the main games. I'm glad that Nintendo is risking expanding the universe (and longevity) of the Metroid series with this game, whether or not I end up enjoying it.

@Tsurii Derrick did the review on it and he liked it a lot.

Personally, I'm not huge on co-op games like these nor Metroid so I'll skip it. However, I do appreciate what they wanted to do with this game, which is expanding the universe. If only a more traditional Metroid game was released around the same time, people probably wouldn't have been so harsh on it. At the end, the only thing I find disappointing about the game is Blast Ball. This could have been the next Splatoon (AKA take a dry and old videogame staple (soccer) and give it the Nintendo spin that makes it fresh) but nope.

Well I for one am excited to play this.

@PanzerNomad I for one, still have to wait till September to play it >

All the salty haters are gonna attack you guys. Really, Federation Force is not a bad game. Mixed reviews, but mostly positive. Sure, not a masterpiece but it's an okay game.

People should really give Next Level Games a chance.

Here's my stance and many will find this weird.

If a game gets nothing but high scores I'm more likely to be disappointed. It's called the over hyping effect. Selling it too much and raising expectations with omg it's awesome.

Here we have reviews of all kinds from love it to solid to its terrible and you know what that means? The reviewers actually have a range of opinions which means it's a game that does something. It does something different that not everyone is sure about and when that happens it usually means it's not like the common industry stagnation that reviewers can score high or low just by looking at it.

To me this says one thing. It's a game you should try. It's a title that may have problems and may be bad but it depends entirely on you. The fact it is such an individual experience is a sign of the game being made in a way to challenge the normal of a franchise and sometimes that's excellent. Again it depends on you. What do you want? Do you want a multiplayer fps on 3ds? Here ya go. Just because it has a name doesn't mean it's bad. Or good. There should never be an expectation attached to a series because of name.

If it has a name you have to be willing to accept new ideas. New ideas prevents stagnation. Stops it being dull. Video games are about creativity and especially in the case of spin offs the idea of trying something different is a creative breath of fresh air. I don't look at this as a Metroid game and judge it so. I don't look at Pokemon XY as pokemon games. I look at them as designed games. How well are they designed? The branding on the face doesn't ando should not affect the opinion of what a game is in design and code.

Cue hate mail I know it's coming.

@BLPs No hater mail here. Have a like for a good post ^_^

Hehe, the Nintendo Enthusiast guy is a pro journalist, he should get snapped up by Panorama or Dispatches..

"The game is touted as a co-op experience, but I played through the game by myself."

@Grandpa_Pixel Had a very hard time putting what I want to say into words. Guess my point is don't judge any game by name. You're meant to be creative in gaming after all. I'm also very tired from programming a game all night XD

@locky-mavo Same here, but Septembers not that far away. 😀

@BLPs You're a programmer too? And amen to that. Me and my team always try to find ways to be creative.

Hmm.

Guess I'll just have to get the game myself and form my own opinion on it!

@Grandpa_Pixel Yup. Working on a project with a composer. Doing the animations, programming, game design and level design. Got no one to model or rig but ill work something out. I'm using Unity and going to be juggling it with studies. Spent a few hours last night making a box explode upon a key press. Not complex, just took longer making a semi decent explosion to cover up the box....popping out. Because that's all that happens when ya break stuff in a game. It goes pop XD

@BLPs We're currently working on the maps for our game. The key issue is to ensure that there is another space in the rooms for in-world battles to occur while preventing them being too spacious

@Grandpa_Pixel "Hey I need to kill this thing but its aaaaalllll the way over there." I get that problem. I'm just going one thing at a time when I can how I can. Doubt it will ever see release.

So far mostly Nintendo themed sites liked it.

It's time for Metroid franchise to move on, this is a required step (that could be handled better though) to attract new fans to the Metroid series. Metroid hasnt exactly shown the best track record in Nintendo history and I am more surprised they havent dropped the franchise altogether like any major publisher would.

If you truly care about Metroid, stop sooking and look at the bigger picture, franchise needs to evolve in order to prosper. The only complaint I have is they shouldve released this along side with a more traditional metroid to help ease the sudden shock of this spin-off departure from a 6 years drought

I wonder if Federation Force would've been panned by the minority of the fandom (I assume they're a minority) if it was released as a companion game to, say Metroid Prime 4, within the span of a few months.

Like Triforce Heroes, I have no reason to get this anytime soon, so...yeah.

Metroid NX will be a release day title.....
Fed force is a warm up..

I am still 50/50 on getting this I think it's more the art design that is putting me off rather than the game itself I am sure it'll be overall around a 7/10 which isn't that bad really.

I think the reason this game is so diverse is that its the kind of game that will have reviewers and gamers going in with vastly different expectations of what they will be expecting. Some will compare the co-op style of gameplay to others on 3DS (where in which it will look like a good game as competition is weak) others will compare to different platforms PC, PS4, Xbone etc (where it will look most likely not that great just average) then there is the case of it sharing the Metroid name which for the most part carries high expectations of a sense of great exploration and feelings of being a lone experiencing a great journey which this game just isn't about. I feel the game would have been better off an original title just due to the fact people would have gone in more open minded myself included.

Numbers doesn't really matter for me.
Let's say, even when people judging game 'A' is 9 / 10, maybe for me just 1 /10 or even worse and Vice Versa. As long matching with our interest, just buy that game. I have some favorite games and some of them are 5 /10 games.

Samus' main blaster is boring according to these sites. She has used the same arm canon for years but in this game it's weak.
That's why I don't listen to reviews. I'm buying this game in s couple hours. I enjoyed Devils third despite controversy, it was red steel 3 basically. I'm sure I will love having a co op shooter on my 3ds..

I dont like the style, but if i had a lot of family and friends close by with a 3ds I would probably get it

Unfortunately, these mixed reviews may lead to Metroid being shelved. It never has sold very well even with its good games.

@BLPs Ehh, it doesn't do anything new that other coop shooters have been doing for a long time. There's the football minigame, that's about it, though I'd rather forget that exists. There's also the fact it has "Metroid" on the box. No one would care if this was a new IP.

@whodatninja and no one would buy it if it was a new IP. Next Level Games is an established development team but not many look at that. Remember Codename STEAM? It died as a new IP, despite being from Intelligent Systems. This would just be a co-op shooter. Meh, moving on right? I think it'd do better with an established brand, and again, this is a concept that people have a very hard time getting their heads around: Spin-off.

A spin-off title, designed to do something akin but different to an established brand, that wouldn't otherwise fit within as a main entry. Lets look at Mario Kart, a spin-off, it plays NOTHING like a Mario game despite having Mario on the box. Pokémon Ranger, Pokémon Snap that everyone seems to adore, yes the franchise hasn't seen a new release in 6 years, but remember that Other M didn't sell well, and before Prime and Fusion came out on the same day...and Prime is a sub-series btw, despite having Metroid on the box, the last game was Super Metroid on the SNES.

Oh whatever. Once again I have optimism for something everyone hates, just another day of being a Nintendo/Sonic/Console Gaming fan. Guess I should add Supporter of Spin-Offs to my resume of reasons no one sits with me at the lunch table @rjejr

And as a side note, to anyone saying this game does nothing new, just mixes old elements together or some such, remember humanity has been around for thousands of years and new ideas get harder to come by as time goes on. :/

I think Nintendo Life is forgetting what a review score is intended for. This day and age we all have a plethora of games yet to play in our back catalog. No where in their review do they seem to make the argument for why this deserves to be played over so many other games out there. An average game with high production values isn't going to tear me away from anything currently on my list. I'm sure my wallet will thank me.

Of course the Nintendo fan sites will give it high scores (glad Enthusiast is an exception though).

It's worth pointing out that the USGamer review (which is positive) is written by game journalism's number-one Metroid fan. So, that's something for the folks who think that a Metroid fan can't enjoy this game, or whatever.

@AVahne So you're glad someone gave a game a bad score? Why?

Deservingly getting low reviews. please let this slow boring tumor die.

@AyeHaley Aye!!! yikes. That's a bit harsh.

lol. I love the thumb sideways review. What a novel idea.

If it weren't for the stupid bobble-heads, which I simply cannot get past (yes, this kind of aesthetic stuff is THAT important to me), I might even think this game was pretty cool. It certainly seems to be well produced in most of the ways that matter, from the presentation to the music (and least from the final boss and ending video I just watch on Gamexplain). But those stupid frkin' bobble-heads . . .

I've played through the first couple of missions so far and I'm enjoying it. I am getting a Metroid vibe from the game and it's been pretty fun so far.
I really don't think that the art style suits Metroid, but I think I haven't minded it as much while playing the game. (Perhaps it's partly because it is in first person and that I've been playing by myself so far)

@AVahne So, regardless of the actual content of the reviews, you're just going to find a "pattern" to fulfill your own desires and discredit other peoples opinion?
Guys, I think we have an example of confirmation bias here.

It's one thing to say "I'm not interested in this"; it's another to actively hate on something and hope it does poorly. Namely, the former is the mature thing to say while the latter is just pathetic.

@UberMadman I don't beleive many people will give it a try. Not for a $40 game that relies on multi-player. Being a gamer of a certain age, none of my friends have a 3ds, so if I were to purchase this game I would have to play it solo. I am sure there are many others like me. And with the game having so many negative reviews, those people will pass on this one.

Personally, I'm just glad we're getting a new Metroid game period, I'm not very picky when it comes to new entries in my favorite series. When Federation Force was first shown, I wasn't like many Metroid 'fans' that bashed the game. I was more than willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. I have yet to play it because of a lack of 2 things: Money and a 3DS. So until then, I will keep my opinion to myself.

Looks at list of reviewers reads the phrase 'esteemed videogame critics' hahahahHAHAHAHA maybe one or two but not as a whole.

But yeah, while it seems an interesting game, it doesn't quite cut it when your average game cost forty bucks. There are just better things to do and more interesting games to spend time and money on. If it cost practically nothing, sure it'd be worth it then, but that's not at all likely.

The more I see. The more we should just KILL off the "Out of 10" rating system.

What's the point if a majority of critics scores is always 5 or above.

Sorry. Just a nitpick thought out-loud.

NintendoEnthusiast's reviewer didn't even play the co-op, which is the game's biggest draw. Personally, I don't give it consideration when aggregating Federation Force' review score.

"Metroid Prime: Federation Force is absolutely a Metroid Prime game."
"Ultimately, Federation Force isn't really a Metroid game at all"
The odds Nintendo World Report and God Is A Geek are at sum up the whole thing rather nicely.

@Antray1984 Jose Otero from ign thought the game is pretty bad. I trust that guy because he is very unbiased.

"soured by an impotent and boring primary weapon that sucks the enjoyment out of shooting and a bewildering lack of special ammunition that might've brought variety to the action"

Wow, sucks to hear. Finding new upgrades in the weapons was one of the most exciting thing when I played a Metroid game :/

Might give it a try in the future.

I'm a Metroid fan and the early content Nintendo shared made me hold out for the reviews before ordering the game. If amazon didn't offer such a generous early buy discount I may have waited longer, but these days Nintendo makes such short runs of these games, then the prices spike. I don't want to end up having to spend even more in a few months.

Still, I worry about what my experience may be, as I expect to do this single player. I barely touched Triforce Heroes. We'll see what happens.

Imagine if they just named it something else

Its probably going to end up the same way Codename STEAM and Other M did in that it drops to £5 brand new in no time. Not going to risk it, I'll wait till then.

I don't understand why people get so bothered about whether it is or is not a Metroid game. That should not factor into its review or value at all. It only matters if it's fun or not.

I personally kinda want to play it, but the emphasis on co-op does not interest me. From what I've read, you can play it as a single player game, but it's not as good and/or is harder that way.

Critically it seems to be about a 7/10. WTF with that IGN criticism. It only reinforces why I haven't frequented IGN in a few years.

The 3DS hardware has nothing to do with the ugly artstyle. Hunters on DS looks better.

People need to take a step back, and consider dropping their sense of entitlement here.
Rate this game based on the ideas it offers, the fun there is to be had from it - if any.
People need to stop feeling like this is a betrayal to the franchise. It's a spinoff. People need to stop worrying about the 30th anniversary and not having a game. Paying a crap load to develop a brand new Metroid game is not going to happen on current gen systems. Be patient. But stop sounding like spoiled idiots on the Internet.

@C-Olimar Heck, everything that Capcom's put out on the system carries a semi-realistic look just fine.
I honestly think sometimes that they know more about optimization for the system than Nintendo's own devs do.

It looks like the scores are correlated to how likely the reviewer is to have friends to play the game with. It's like the argument for Triforce Heroes; 6/10 single player, and it goes up one point for each additional player you play with.

@GreatPlayer

Maybe, but he's horrible at reviewing games. edit wrong guy, thinking of someone else

I quit listening to him when he slammed Fire Emblem Fates: Conquest for the difficulty and not allowing you to grind in between chapters like Birthright. Which is how basically every other FE game of the last 30 years has been (aside from Awakening and Fates: Birthright). The game was clearly split to satisfy two separate fan bases, and the game was specifically marketed to people who wanted the difficulty. That was its main appeal! If you want easy then you buy the other path, if you want the classic FE experience, you buy Conquest.

But he didn't seem to understand that. It was too hard for him so he gave it a mediocre score.

^Think this was GameSpot. Pete Brown.

@televisions
"Imagine if they just named it something else"

Nobody would've paid any attention and it would've flopped horribly. Code Name STEAM/Wonderful 101 style. People don't really want to buy new IP, they want to buy franchises they are familiar with. Which is why, even despite all this controversy over wanting a main series entry, this game will do far better under this name then it would have otherwise.

Ya know, these reviews are surprisingly a lot less negative than I thought they would be.

@JaxonH I'd agree with you on that were it not for Splatoon being so popular. And shovel knight. outside of ninty you've got Overwatch blowing up this year so I'm not entirely sure that's true.
I think it's a matter of advertising.

I shoudl get STEAM since my FYE is going out of business and they have a lot of copies. Just got Chibi Robo (which is kinda boring but charming so far)

By the way I'm not shocked this has alright reviews. Dark Moon is one of my favorite 3DS games ([robably my favorite non RPG on the 3DS) and it solidified that Next level is great at what they do.
I have no stake in it so I honestly think it's the fact that it's a game that's not very Metroid like released the year of Metroid's anniversary with no acknowledgement of the anniversary by Nintendo or an acknowledgement of a traditional metroid game (prime or, as I'd prefer, 2D).

My own feelings are that I do not like FPSs outside of Doom and I think it's hideous looking. I'm sure it's fun but I've got a lot of other things that I'd rather buy.

For what it's worth, anyone over the age of 18 saying "Hater" without a hint of irony needs some serious introspection.

@Kirk That chibi art style is honestly the worst thing about this game to me, too. I still want to play it, though.

@KO-Cub Exactly. Anything that scores from 1 to 4 (and often 5) is considered "bad," so what's the point? What's the difference to me, the consumer, between a 1/10 and a 4/10 if I'm not going to buy either one?

@AlexSora89 Kinda reminds me of how people talk about how Sonic should be all about speed, because the old games were all about speed. (The old games absolutely were not all about speed.)

@Tsurii André certainly is the least lenient reviewer over at GameXplain, but Derrick actually had the pleasure to review it this time around and gave it a solid "I liked it a lot!"

To be honest the only oddball here seems to be IGN.

"Metroid Prime: Federation Force is not a good game at all"

That certainly sounds like something you'd read in a trustworthy review by a professional, non-biased journalist. Especially considering there are plenty of people who seem to think that it IS a good game. I didn't know anything about "Nintendo Enthusiast" before, but thanks to that line alone I'll know to avoid them in the future.

@JaxonH He only gave Conquest a 9.5 out of 10, that bastard

This game just seems so interesting to me. Like I'll be the first person to admit I wanted a truer Metroid game but I'll be damned if this doesn't at least fill me with a certain curiosity.

The "be nice, it's a spinoff" argument would have some weight if the last good Metroid game wasn't literally nine years ago. Even if you count Other M, that was still six years ago. You do a spinoff when a series is active, not after it's been sidelined for years.

I think this is a game that was crying out for a multiplayer demo prior to launch. Not blastball (although that's nice freebie) but a splatoon testfire style demo of the main quest.

As some people have already explained, in general, Nintendo Life reviews Nintendo games through rose-coloured glasses which is fine as long as readers knows that, thus the high scores and the isolated and somehow distorted perception of the games and why some things are exaggerated and others are ignored. If you check other websites that are not Nintendo-focused the reviews are more objective and are more helpful if you need some unbiased impressions before making a purchase rather than just fan satisfaction.

Most probably, the game is not so bad, but too much praise coming from one side while many other reviews state the opposite is meaningful. I can see why most fans are disappointed: the visual style, the radical change of gameplay and the lack of a playable Samus can't be welcomed by everybody. When Metroid Prime 2 (best Metroid game for me, but just because I started with Metroid Prime) launched, a multiplayer mode was included. It seems that Federation Force should be an extra mode within a Metroid Prime game because, even though it's a portable game, Metroid Prime Hunters showed more ambition in a much weaker system. I'm not against Federation Force, I just think it's using the Metroid Prime brand in a very cheap way. If it was a downloadable game with another name nothing of this would have happened. Just don't expect Metroid Prime fans like me to be very happy with a mediocre spin-off game marketed as the next real thing after nine years of waiting.

@VanillaLake You already started this on the other page. But this time I hope nobody will take part into the debate.

@Rocossa

Lol lol outrageous I know.

I must be going out of my mind, because I clearly remember when that game came out and they marked it 7/10 with the other half 9/10.

May have been Pete Brown with GameSpot. Poor guy been getting confused with all this time

@GreatPlayer
Ok, I owe poor Mr Otero an apology, this whole time I've had him confused with someone else. In light of this I have nothing against the man and by all means trust his opinion

@JaxonH I think you may mean Vince Ignenito, who are lack of gaming skills.

I have the game and have been playing with the N3DS and enjoying it today. I'm a Metroid fan so I couldn't pass it up. A 7.5 is pretty fair, 8.0 is pushing it a bit, but you do get a pretty smooth, fun, co-op FPS experience in 3D. There is lots to unlock and the game takes itself and the lore pretty seriously. The chibi graphics aren't noticeable much at all during gameplay as the things you're blasting aren't as chibi looking. Enemy AI is pretty good, they dart around and it does require some skill to take them down.

Having Blast Ball as a bonus is nice too, but everyone got Blast Ball for free anyway.

I don't regret buying it and would recommend it. Those Space Pirates aren't going to get blasted on their own.

Also, to those complaining about the controls, I have an N3DS XL and it works great for me with the following config:
Config B
Options:
Gyro Aim when Locked On: ON
Invert Y axis: OFF
Aim sensitivity: 2 (highest)

All the reviews that gave it a low score are probably just bitter because Samus isn't the main character. I've already played a few hours of it and I'm having a blast! Plus I just scanned in my Samus amiibo which turns your mech into her, so it basically feels like I'm playing through Samus's eyes anyways!

Let me explain my views on why Federation Force is such a disappointment:
Imagine that you have a friend who cooks really good steaks that you like and would often invite you over for steak dinner. Now, imagine that this friend hasn't invited you over for a long time. Then one day, out of the blue, your friend invites you over for steak once more. This time, however, instead of that delicious steak that you remember, all you're given is a bag of steak-flavored potato chips from the dollar store.
So, yeah, that's what Federation Force is like: being given dollar store chips when you were expecting home-cooked steak.

(Then there are the people who defend Federation Force with things like "It's a spin-off", "It's better than having no new Metroid games", "You shouldn't care so much about the name", etc.; They're like another friend who was invited to the same dinner, happily munching down on his chips while saying to you "How could you be so ungrateful? You should be glad that you were given anything at all!")

"You do a spinoff when a series is active, not after it's been sidelined for years."

Exactly this

@Dr_Corndog
Sonic was advertised as being fast even before his attitude was pushed back in the day; being reckless in the original games would get players killed. Go figure!

@BLPs Make sure to tell everybody your favorite Starfox game is Adventures. It's also my favorite Gamecube game. Sonic Adventures is my favorite Sonic game. (Not my favorite Dreamcast game though, that would be Skies of Arcadia.) I like adventures. Well except Zelda ones b/c I also like voice acting. Though feel free to tell people WW is your favorite Zelda game too.

Metroid is so dead. But i don't care anymore, I have Axiom Verge instead.

@CrazedCavalier
Except I have read reviews, and I form my opinions on those and what I've seen (seeing can still lead to believing, and seeing this game caused the opposite reaction) and tried (I've a friend who has the game and I've also tried and loathed the demo).