Discuss: What Next For The Nintendo 64?

just make a ocarina of time remake for nx

An N64 Classic Mini won't happen for a long time(lacking Rare's catalogue would be a major minus and probably wouldn't be possible). Part of the reason why I think the NES Classic happened is because I'd say NES games don't sell well on the eShop. Bundling it like it has been generates a lot of nostalgia and interest.

Sorry but I don't think any of these ideas are very good. I would have liked a Majora's Mask HD at one point but the 3DS remake has killed that idea. There is one game from the N64 that I'd love a HD RE4 style remake of and that is Resident Evil 2. But that's down to Capcom.

N64 mini...without Rare's games? NO THANKYOU! HD remasters all the way. For example, Ocarina of Time with a bit more density in the field, gyroscopic aiming etc etc would make a great game even better with out messing the formula.

I read that title and thought to myself: "did I just time travel?"

(oh...and I would LOVE a sequel to Rocket Robot on Wheels.)

Give me "F-Zero X" enhanced 3DS re-release including the content of the 64DD construction kit edition with stereoscopic 3D or give me death!

the main problem with this is licensing. scratch all rare games that are not nintendo ips. bond and kobe bryant also. third party games as turok or ogre battle. but then again, nintendo has it's own impressive catalogue, but then again, why pilotwings 64 and excitebike 64 have not been released in VC???

Yeah

Lets get a SNES mini first then talk about the least popular top Nintendo console

50 SNES games for $100
You'd have to fight scalpers for it

@Shiryu Absolutely! That would go down so well.

@flashboy licensing is a problem. The one Rare game Nintendo do have the IP for is DK64 which did see a VC release on Wii U. So that could potentially be on a future N64 Mini.

No please, anything but "More HD Remasters!" That is my personal idea of video game hell.

@TheNomad Can you imagine? It'd sell out within three seconds, possibly forever, only to show up on eBay for roughly the price of buying all those games on eBay. Yikes!

I really don't see most of these ideas happening. SNES Mini is probably a lock, but those are very different types of games - mostly 2D for 1, than N64's list of 3D games. And really that list of games Nitneod probably would get rights to isn't very long. And what they charge for 30 N64 games, $119?

Makes a few remasters or release on VC, but I don't think N64 has what's most important for a retro console device or even a game disc - nostalgia. NES and SNES have that in spades. How many kids/teens do you see walking around w/ N64 controllers on their shirts? Or anything looking like N64 graphics? NES and SNES are all the "old school" rage, N64 is dare I say, too modern.

N64 Mini would need some help to make it what we all want it to be. MS and rare would have to agree to play along as well as a whole host of licensed products. You cant have it without 1 of the wrestling games, some of the FPS. The only non licensed sports games would be Mario titles. Still there would be plenty of options to choose from to build a quality retro system but without some of the above mentioned it wouldnt have the appeal.

Only way I would buy a snes, or n64 mini is if they add cart support.

When I read the title I instantly thought, in the grave where it belongs.

I wish I still had the Nintendo Press Release for when they canceled the N64. It was quite spiteful and I have never seen its equivalent. They blamed 3rd party developers for jumping ship to the competition (sounds familiar doesn't it? They jumped due to memory issues with the cartridges). Then they had the audacity to actually call out the public for not supporting the console enough. I remember reading it and being like wow, such hubris and balls. In essence it was Nintendo's first REAL (I don't count the virtual boy) failure but maybe why they took it so hard. It left a bad taste in my mouth, especially when many of the same mistakes continue to this day,.

I would like to see doom 64 hd remake!

@Fearful-Octopus Me too! Love Doom 64, especially the music.

Star Wars Episode I Racer II for the NX. Oh, it would be so on.

@SavageGM Could be still kicking about on the internet somewhere?

I'd like to see a lot of things but I guess it won't happen.

But please make more old classic games for the virtual console which we already own and charged us a bomb will ya.

I think Nintendo should have instead of releasing individual classic min consoles, have just one classic mini console. Have the classic Nintendo mini console have a collection of like 60 of the best NES, SNES, N64, and GB/GBC/GBA games (maybe a few turbografx and Genesis titles as well). Then have the device have access to the Virtual Console shop, so that you can add all your favorite titles of those old consoles. Finally, utilize the same wii-classic controller connecting type of controllers, but offer different versions, not just a classic NES controller, but classic SNES, classic N64 controllers, as well as the classic NES doggone controller, and the classic N64 Hori controller.

Obviously a pipe dream, but I think it'd be smart on Nintendo if they released one standalone classic mini console that is capable of playing all your old favorite titles. I know essentially you can accomplish this kind of gaming with a Wii U or even a Wii, but really they need to release classic controllers that can connect to a wiimote of all the old console's controllers, plus such a device with like 60 classics built in would definitely have an appeal.

Sequels! Specially SNAP!

Mario Party trilogy!

I'm disturbed by the amount of people that would want SM64 and OOT remade AGAIN.

Lol, nobody is using the #N64Memories hashtag that the article asked them to.

But that's okay, I don't even have any #N64Memories anyway. The GameCube is infinitely better. And yes, I am biased.

PS: I would absolutely LOVE a N64 Mini. Even if it only contains Nintendo-developed games. This MUST happen.

Do it, Nintendo!

@Shiryu R.I.P. Shiryu

@Mega_Yarn_Poochy But they will rebuild me... and I will return to the circuit, only to be know as... The Skull!

That N64 mini game list...SO MUCH YES!!!!!!

@N64Memories I've looked a bunch but can't find it.

@thehoppypoppy Thanks. It's a realistic one I think.

I say some new localisations of the platform's Japanese exclusives would be welcome, too. The early entries in Custom Robo, Shiren the Wanderer and Puyo Puyo, one of the not so many Evangelion games in existence, role-playing rarities Zoor and Wonder Project J2 (the latter had a fan translation, but still) - they would increase the classic library for western audiences, and most are connected to franchises boasting some recognition and market niche nowadays. I'm not even talking stuff like Bangai-O or Animal Crossing that at least made it overseas on other platforms, but the aforelisted games have barely even seen re-releases, so the domestic audience in Japan may be curious as well.

@SavageGM Maybe someone will see and find it. I'd be interested to read it too.

How about all of the above options.

Games I'd want that probably have no shot because of rights, licensing, etc. Perfect Dark, 007, WWF No Mercy, Blast Corps, Turok 1 & 2, Jet Force Gemini, Conkers Bad Fur Day, Shadows of the Empire, Rogue Squadron. Probably a few others I can't think of at the moment

Eh, I know it was a console many grew up with, but I didn't care for it then and don't think it's aged well at all. Not an era I need rose-tinted resurrection from.

Give me more sequels to classic N64 games.

@N64Memories Nice article, interesting ideas. Still love my N64 to bits, so bring on the games as far as I am concerned. Actually, the poll should have also had an "all of the above" option, something that Kirk and I actually DO agree on. (sorry @Kirk, couldn't help myself there... )

As for your list: Nice as well, but personally, I don't like a couple of the games, and they shouldn't even be in there if you are going to make a list of the 30 most likely and/or greatest games.

I have no interest in games like Cruis'n USA, F1 World Grand Prix and Kobe Bryant in NBA Courtside. Instead of Cruis'n USA, San Francisco Rush or Rush 2049 would be a much better alternative (or one of the Top Gear games), F1 World Grand Prix is only for aficionados, much like the Kobe Bryant game and Turok 1 is also not the best example. Better put the second game on there, or the multiplayer game.

And how can you forget 1080 Snowboarding, which is the proverbial twin of Wave Race? Kind of blasphemous if you ask me to overlook that one...

And if we want to go all out, and Nintendo really does want to change its tune and strategy, then they should just offer Microsoft a 10 - 15% deal to be able to incorporate all the Rare titles, so you can rewrite that list with some even bigger classics.

It would almost be a Rare box instead of a Nintendo one...

And speaking of that: your idea of a Nintendo alternative to Rare Replay should contain games from all eras, just like Rare Replay, so not just N64 games.

But all in all, whatever games would be on there, I would most definitely buy one.

@Vineleaf So, you're not interested in the NES Mini either, then? For people that love the games, this would be great news indeed. And it will have a better picture with the HDMI connection, so the 3D would look just as clear as it looks in the Wii U VC versions.

@Gerbwmu Some excellent choices there. One of my favourite N64 games is Shadow Man by Acclaim. I don't think Acclaim are a company anymore but this title would be well worth the trouble for a re-release.

@ThanosReXXX good points made there - yes omitting 1080 was an error in hindsight. Cruis'n is on there as Nintendo published it and might include it. If Nintendo managed to strike a deal with Microsoft then I'd be more than happy to rewrite my predicted list haha!

Give me Perfect Dark and Paper Mario and I will be happy

@N64Memories So how do you feel about the other racers I suggested?

...unfortunately without some of the licensed games needed to make it worthwhile, the mini would end up with a few good Nintendo games and a bunch of..

@GrailUK I swear I got to the level where you could make roller coasters and just did that over and over. So cool you mentioned this!!

I wouldn't mind an HD remake of Donkey Kong 64 being developed by Playtonic Games (creators of Yooka-Laylee).

@ThanosReXXX Rush 2049 is a favourite alternative to F Zero for me. TGR1&2 would be welcomed too. I do feel the N64 has enough good games other than Rare's
Masterpieces.

No more HD remakes!

As long as I can play them on the NX, I don't care if they're a little "fuzzy".

Quest 64 II on N64 DD!!!

@SavageGM
Did Nintendo cancel the N64?

I'm looking to get into the Flash Cart market. Collecting has just become too expensive.

If they remake 1080 Snowboarding it NEEDS to be in 1080p.

POKEMON SNAP 2 PLZ

In all seriousness, Nintendo will never do an "N64 Replay" or something of the sort, given their shoddy handling of the Virtual Console (in both regions, but mostly NA). An N64 Mini could happen, but only after a SNES Mini (which would be great as well).

I would be happy with a Nintendo version of Rare Replay without the Xbox/360/XB1 games and IP's. (Rare IP's born in the MS era)

I love the idea of HD remasters, and I'd be really happy if they just remade every N64 and GCN game ever released. The problem though is when the remake "messes up" too much with the original. For example, Star Fox 64 3D looks way better on the 3DS, but I really, really dislike the updated voices, to the point where I'd rather just play the original on the Wii VC because the voices for me were a big part of what made the original so special (being in a cartridge in a CD based era, having voices was a luxury). That said, I'd rather they try and fail than not tried at all.

EDIT: Btw the way, by remaster I mean even just releasing upscaled versions so they look good in modern TVs, not necessarily remaking everything. You could potentially do that in some emulators, but I'd prefer an official release on an actual console.

My top pick is to have sequels to N64 games; the rest sound fine to me, except for remasters. I'd rather have any of those ideas over more remasters, especially if they're releasing on the NX. A new system should have new games, and I don't count remasters as new, even if they offer a bit more gameplay than the original. I wouldn't mind some N64 remasters later in the NX's lifetime, but I don't want to see any for a while.

@StitchScout So it'd be 1080(p) Snowboarding?... I'll see myself out

@kamikazilucas Whats wrong with the one on 3ds? I mean, with all the great games they could remake you want a remake of a game that was remade for the previous system some years ago?

@SLIGEACH_EIRE would you explain why the top download list on my wiiu in North America is littered with nes downloads?

@FreakFerrett HD graphics (even upscaled), and ability to play on a TV would be reason enough for me to have OOT remade again.

@N64Memories Oh, absolutely. Couldn't agree more. My first 3 games were Wave Race, ISS 64, Mario 64 and Mario Kart 64, so that's mostly first party games that I spent the first months with.

@John_Enigma I second that.

I'd be down as long as all the best games, Rare or otherwise, are included. That means Goldeneye for sure, but we know it won't happen. And they're certain games, like Mariokart 64, that we don't need anymore, as clearly the new MK is so much better.

I loved the N64 though and if Nintendo did do this, I'd probably get it for Nostalgia sake more than anything.

@FreakFerrett its in 240p and the graphics are very outdated

I think they need to do one of two things.

1.) Full-blown collections of each franchise with every iteration on them for the NX. So, if we steal the Rare Replay method, give us 2D Mario Replay, 3D Mario Replay, Zelda Replay, Metroid Replay, Kirby Replay, etc. and give people the whole catalog, across all past platforms (home and handheld). Strictly speaking, this could be done right this minute on the Wii U if they wanted to, given its capabilities, emulation, and backwards compatibility. This way people get MASSIVE value, and can own the entire history of franchises they love if the NX proves challenging for backwards compatibility or Virtual Console for whatever reason.

2.) What I've wanted for a while: Eternal Virtual Console. It needs to be its own self-contained application, and it should house everything retro, making it so Nintendo only needs to update a single thing for all past games to work forever. Buy once, own forever. If the NX is matching the rumors we see now, its Android lineage in the form of the NVidia Shield hardware line should make this nothing too challenging, and even if they switch hardware or system architectures in the future, if it's all built into a single application, once it's updated once, it's done, and we get to keep playing classic titles forever on future Nintendo devices. I could see this getting more complicated once we get past the N64, perhaps, but come on. Phone emulators have been doing just fine with all of the pre-GC home consoles and pre-DS handhelds since my EVO 4G in 2010, so I can't imagine why Nintendo can't make the same thing possible on MASSIVELY more powerful hardware in a Tegra X1 (or better).

I can only hope something like these things will be possible, but we'll see. Nintendo has definitely had their head in the sand when it comes to digital pricing for the Virtual Console for some time now, and a new platform will be an ideal time to make for a radical break in their current operating standard, were there ever one.

@faint Would you explain why the top download list on my Wii U in Europe has only 1 NES game? Super Mario Bros. at #16 and that's the way it normally is.

Im still waiting for:
megaman 64
RE2
FZERO
Clayfighters 63 1/2 special edition
Mario party no1
Turok
Doom 64 .....
So ill just wait..... (oh and the stadium games!)

@N64Memories When I saw someone else mention Star Wars Episode One Racer, I thought: damn forgot some of the Star Wars games. So I'd like to add that one and Rogue Squadron too. Those were special games as well.

Heh. Funny, we're talking about how there's still life in the N64, while the Wii U is basically dead. Go figure.

Nes mini is already sold out on Amazon UK. N64 Mini will definitely happen if this sells well. Only time will tell.

@SavageGM Canceled? It was discontinued after an almost 7 year run, so it seems to me that it had a pretty normal life cycle. It only didn't do really well in Japan, but in Europe and the US it did quite well, except for its final 1,5 year, with the advent of more and more CD based consoles, so sales did taper off, but it wasn't suddenly removed from the market.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_64

An N64 mini might work... but it'd have to be bigger than that.

I want an HDMI equipped N64 that plays original cartridges. Nintendo will never get the rights to re-publish most of my favorite N64 games so an N64 mini, NX compilation, or any other option is pretty useless to me. A few examples:
Jet Force Gemini
Body Harvest
Goldeneye
Winback
Blast Corps

I just want to clarify this was a great article. I'm just not thrilled about any of the suggested options.

Any or all of these idea's would be great but the N64 mini is a must for me, my 2nd best console of all time after the SNES.

@ThanosReXXX See, we do agree sometimes.

@ThanosReXXX you are right it was discontinued and not canceled. I was giving Nintendo a pass on the Virtual Boy as it was a niche product, sold terribly and had no impact on the industry. So sure I will agree as well and say it was their first failure. Also the Nintendo 64 might not have been a "failure" to its fans but to the mighty dollar and Nintendo's brass it was a failure when the competition blew it out of the water, thus making Nintendo decide to discontinue the console.

@Kirk Indeed...

@Not_Soos Just like the Dreamcast and Saturn the WiiU will have its day. The console is rather unique and is home to many must have games and unique ways to play multi-plats (aka my preferred way to play Deus Ex Human Revolution). It will have its day someday.

@SavageGM Yeah, they can be pretty stubborn and for now, it seems like they still are, but who knows? They might surprise you yet...

@Ninten-san I should have written discontinued.

I would be happy with a mini n64 that plays in 16:9 without streching the screen

@electrolite77 A great list. If Rare came into play, it'd be a challenge to pick the best 30.

A HD remake of Body Harvest would give me fits of joy.

An N64 mini would work if Nintendo let you load games onto an SD card.

A real-time N64 with a HDMI digital out by passing the old VI blur chip without having the extreme price overhead of the UltraHDMI mod would be kick ass.

@ThanosReXXX The NES mini holds minor interest for me, though I have most of the games I'd want from that system. I grew up with an Atari, and same deal with that: I haven't really wanted their version of a retro system. The SNES version could hold minir interest if we can get the original Star Fox back. But I have enough (legal) avenues for getting retro games on current systems that I'm not much bothered. The N64 games, like the PS1, generally have aged poorly to my eyes.

@electrolite77 Still missing all those RARE games though.

Fragile controllers? I have three, nearly 20 years old, all seen drops and kicks are still working fine. GRANTED I didn't have Mario Party games which I've heard are killer.

Retro 3D is an artform in itself. The sooner gamers get this through to their skulls the better. I love alot of the old 3D with a Playstation, N64 (via true S-video) and Saturn still hooked up - no need to change and of them.

Well for starters, you could actually make some collectathon platformers again. Linear platforming's been done to death over the course of the last generation and a half and collectathon platformers have been dead, now's a good time to bring it back.

@Vineleaf Yeah, true they did age less well than 2D games. And certainly if you never had any interest in it in the first place I can imagine you not being interested, but for a lot of people this would certainly be a day one buy, me included. Just too many good memories from the original N64 to skip this one, especially with the benefit of an HDMI connection...

@ThanosReXXX I get that, especially the HDMI. It's getting harder and harder for me to keep old systems connected.

@Vineleaf What are you using now then, and what systems do you still have connected?

@ThanosReXXX I have each of the current gen consoles on my main television. In the bedroom I have a GCN, a PS2, an X360, and an Atari 7800. My SNES bit it just before my recent move.

@Vineleaf Your SNES broke down? That's too bad, man. Well, maybe Nintendo will come out with a SNES Mini after the release of the NX. That is probably more likely going to happen than an N64 Mini, but a man can dream, right?

Anyway, for the first two you can either use a SCART convertor or component, with Y leads if you want to connect more than one at the same time. The 360 is obviously an HDMI console, so no problem there for an HDTV.

The Atari only has composite if I'm not mistaken, and most TV's still have that, if only for "over the air TV" or analogue cable TV, so that should still be no problem.

But as it so happens, I was researching this myself a couple of weeks ago, which is also why I asked you.

These are articles that I found interesting and helpful, so maybe they can do the same for you:

http://lifehacker.com/how-to-connect-your-old-school-video-game-consoles-to-a-1443675453
http://www.gamesradar.com/how-to-make-retro-games-look-incredible-on-your-hdtv/
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/connect-8-16-bit-consoles-hdtv/
http://www.retrogamescollector.com/how-do-i-get-my-retro-console-to-work-on-a-modern-tv/
And here's a handy video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6MtLVsjER4

@Jumpman "it's just more widespread and popular."

I can live with that.

Just let Playtonic make new Banjo-Kazooie and Conker games for all platforms....cries

@SLIGEACH_EIRE you guys do buy less wiiu. I guess that's just the taste of your region. The nes was barely a thing in Europe compared to the master system. Still as a whole us, Japan, Europe, rest of the world nes games sell very well. I hate it when people pass small personal opinions without research off as fact.

@faint You mean like you just did?

Whereas I wrote in my first comment that "I think" and "I'd say". Where do I pass it off as fact.

In fact your last sentence doesn't make sense. Think about what you wrote.

"people pass small personal opinions without research off as fact."

Honestly, I'm just happy as long as we get N64 virtual console on NX, with more games this time. Always felt like we got the short end of the stick on Wii U, when it came to N64 games. Oh, and GameCube, desperatly need GameCube, I wanna play Sunshine again, but GCN looks terrible on my TV.

@SLIGEACH_EIRE it is a fact that more wiiu's have sold in the us then any other territory. It is a fact that nes vc games rank high on the us and Japanese eshops. You stating that they made the new nes due to nes games selling poorly on vc is selling an opinion as a fact without research of any kind into other territories.

@faint "it is a fact that more wiiu's have sold in the us then any other territory. It is a fact that nes vc games rank high on the us and Japanese eshops."

Where did I say those weren't true?(I didn't) Don't bother, I'm done here and not interested because you're talking rubbish.

'Check out my thirty here and see if you agree.'
That list better contain Wave Race! 😡
<goes to check>
Ok, you may continue. 😇

You had me at mischief makers sequel.

A true remake of The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time for Nintendo NX.

How about this ?
Make NX has a lot of port from previous Nintendo consoles so all Nintendo classics can be played by both physical andante digital download but saving the data by Virtually (Saved internally) ?
I'm sure it will really a Savior if we can ALL Nintendo Classics in ONE body, from SNES until Wii U, without region locked and enhanced graphic until HD 1080i with ratio 16:9.

Nintendo hates N64, nuff said!
The Wii and Wii u e-shops should already have been flooded with N64 titles, but Nintendo simply doesn't care!

On a side-note: That picture of the Korean N64 box (its Korean, right) just looks soooo sweet!

This article is completely unrealistic- a sequel for Body Harvest or Mischief Makers? While we are at it, how about a sequel to Chameleon Twist? Pfffft. Nonsense.

Nintendo will not release an N64 mini, or a SNES mini for that matter. They can afford to release NES mini because the return on NES virtual console sales will be low enough to justify it.

They will also not release an 'N64 Replay' Collection, because it will be more profitable for them to charge for individual games on VC than hand them out on a cart (I'm assuming NX is cartridge based).

This article is just silly. As Nintendo fans, we accept our fate to never receive what we say we want.

Mind you, I love the N64, so fight on for the cause.

@TheNomad "then talk about the least popular top Nintendo console"

That would be the Wii U, actually.

N64 had some amazing first party games, but it was nothing compared to the PlayStation. PS1 absolutely killed N64 especially in the JRPG department.

@electrolite77 Sadly the F1 games, (great as they were) will probably wont appear on mini N64 as they don't own the game licence, they would have to ask Codemasters for permission.

I dunno how I feel about N64 Mini, I'd like to see what they do about a SNES mini first.....

The NES Classic Mini is going to be a massive success this Holiday season, so I think a SNES Mini and N64 Mini are inevitable. Both would be even bigger hits.

Nothing! Just put it online and make it possible to download the N64 roms! Automatic high settings for better graphics. No need for mini N64. We need otherwise a castle to put all our consoles haha