Sega's 32-bit Saturn console wasn't the success story the company had hoped for, and its failure against the Sony PlayStation and Nintendo 64 is considered by critics to be one of the many reasons the Japanese company walked away from producing domestic hardware.
However, the machine is home to some of the best titles of the period, and was blessed with amazing 2D games - many of which were exclusive to Japan, where the console performed better commercially than it did in the west. The issue for collectors and fans is that the Saturn hardware is getting a bit long in the tooth these days, and like all CD-based systems, is more prone to failure than older, cartridge-based machines. That means as time goes by we're going to see more and more faulty - and therefore useless - Saturns on the market.
Thankfully hacker James Laird Wah - also known as Dr Abrasive - has been working on a way of loading games onto a Saturn console via USB since 2013, and it appears he has finally cracked it.
Wah's journey began when he decided to investigate the console's multi-channel sound chip. To use the chip, he wanted to write software for the Saturn. Homebrew on the Saturn requires a mod chip - which isn't produced these days - and self-created CDs. Convinced he could do better, Wah spent the next few years reverse-engineering the console with the aim of loading code via a USB connection. This process is already available as a mod for other CD-based consoles, such as the 3DO.
The biggest stumbling block was the Saturn's hardware-based DRM, which required discs to have a mark (called a "wobble") that was physically etched into the CD itself. Wah has had to emulate the disc drive over USB in order to overcome this.
You can view the entire process here, but the magic moment comes at the 17 minute mark:
Wah states that he's still working on the hack and it's not ready for distribution just yet. However, he's moving towards that goal and that could mean an explosion of interest in what many regard as Sega's most underrated home system. It also means that games like Panzer Dragoon Saga - which creator Yukio Futatsugi claims Sega no longer has the source code for - will be playable for generations to come.
[source kotaku.co.uk]
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I'm eggstatic.
While I welcome this news, I'm not entirely sure what it's doing on this site.
That's great news for me and my fellow Saturn owners.
sega ought to really jsut release an official emulator.
Saturn Bomberman is the best Bomberman ever. It easily beats SNES's Bomberman 4 and 5.
When will Sega do Saturn and Dreamcast VC?
@Loui We've covered loads of Sega-related stuff before.
That guy is brilliant and awesome. It's nice to see it's in the process of making emulation far more accurate, easy, and reliable. Emulation is what will really preserve the games for all time as executing the game code is no longer dependent on proprietary hardware which is obviously prone to failure over time.
I've always wanted to try Saturn games out, i hardly knew anyone with it back in the day and only played it a handful of times. I'm wondering if i should buy one now before they get really popular as people find out about this breakthrough.
Please forgive my utter ignorance, but
There are emulators on computers for this console, aren't there?
I'm honestly clueless
Yay......it just means all our Saturn discs and cases will just be dust gatherers from now on.... T.T
This is great, fair play to the guy for all his efforts.
This isn't Nintendo related at all, but cool, why not? Not like there's much Ninty news atm.
@Bobb Saturn emulation is still far from perfect, largely because the console's twin CPU setup is notoriously tricky to emulate 100% properly. If you want the truly authentic experience, then you need to use the original hardware - which is what this is.
@pabloff9
Hell yeah! Can't believe they still never bested Saturn Bomberman. Best Bomberman ever!
@Bobb The Saturn had a unique architecture which has always proven very hard to emulate. One of the best emulators, Yabause, is an acronym for Yet Another Buggy And Uncomplete Saturn Emulator.
Sega Life?
I still got a working Saturn with boxed Saturn Bomberman , just need 2 multi-taps and 9 more controllers😃
Ah, I was unsure if I should write about this or not when I saw it a couple of days ago. It's a shame I never had a Saturn in my life, I did play a lot of it on my cousin's Saturn, but every time I look up buying one, I stumble upon prices of games I want and begin to cry...
When it's ready, I'll be getting this day 1.
@Damo @BionicDodo I understand now, thank you very much
Saturn was more powerful than the Playstation, but Sony bought out all the big game designers so effectively destroyed Sega, no point talking about Dreamcast as it was just an X-box -1
I really wish Sega would take some time to make "remasters" of Saturn and Dreamcast games, not just Sonic. I wonder if the experience would help their new teams/staff with future games.
@Shiryu You might want to rephrase part of your comment. In large parts of the States (and maybe Britain too) someone's "unit" is slang for something entirely different. And the fact that it was your cousin's certainly doesn't help in that respect either...
This is excellent news, I've basically got devices like this for all my consoles now (PowerPak for NES/SNES, Everdrive 64, MegaEverdrive, USB-GBROM, etc) as it's much more convenient than dragging all your old games out of storage and also saves on cartridge slot wear.
I'll definitely be in line for one of these!
I just got a Saturn so this is great news. I love my Everdrives and this will go up there with that. So awesome!!!
@ThanosReXXX ... damn you, USA! whispers "Hail Hydra!"
Does Saturn have a USB port??
Emulation doesn't always have to be being a pirate. You can also be a cleric, too. Madsive props to this guy.
i will be wanting this when its released, love my saturn.
@VanillaLake Not from itself, but it can be modded to have one, kind of like the USB loader for the Sega Dreamcast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0PXT8-tTXY
On the Dreamcast, you can also have an SD card loader mod:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gTpylJi9wk
And if you don't want to tamper with the system, there's even an external one with a boot disc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U88IfMK_4HQ
@Shiryu Hydra? Trouser snake! Gotta stay on topic of the "unit"...
Well, my Saturn is ready!
@ThanosReXXX Hm, OK. I never had a Saturn but I knew it did not have a USB port. This article does not properly explains this, so thanks.
The only thing I have done is to soft-modify my Wii in order to play my (original) Japanese copy of Project Zero 4 (Fatal Frame 4).
@VanillaLake Yeah, me too. Never done a hard-mod before, but most of these seem relatively easy. Guess it's something to keep in mind for the inevitable day that my Dreamcast's disc drive will quit working...
I remember my Dad buying me a Saturn for Christmas... It was out of our budget but it was all I wanted and God rest him he got me it and Street Fighter Alpha 2!! Loved it. I bought a Dreamcast, first console I ever bought myself. My mum brought me from work to some Electronic Goods store that was having a midnight sale or something. Good times!
@ThanosReXXX Yeah, I remember that most CD readers used to fail in one year or two. DVD readers were a bit better though. So many CD players stopped reading CDs after a while and they were expensive.
I had a Saturn back in the day and loved it. However, I got tired of seeing all the best games going to PSX and N64 so I eventually sold it along with all of my games and bought an N64. I loved the N64 as well, but it was a huge mistake to get rid of my Saturn.
I emulate the Saturn now using SSF on my desktop PC. It is far from perfect as an emulator because it requires CDs (no loading from hard drive). However, it still allows me to get a blast of nostalgia from playing Sega Rally or Panzer Dragoon Zwei and to try out Japanese exclusive games.
As an aside, I cannot believe that Sega lost the source code to Panzer Dragoon Saga. What happened to configuration management on that one?
I look forwards to a chance to play Sunsoft's Astra Superstars.
Saturns without disk drives...what a world we live in
This is awesome, a great way to preserve our disc without having to load them directly to the system.
@TossedLlama Most of your questions can be answered with 'yes'. From having watched the entire video, I understand that this solution is region free, doesn't need the cd drive and so it is DEFINITELY worth upgrading.
The only thing is that it isn't available commercially just yet, but he is hard at work to make that happen in the near future, so I think the phrase "watch this space" probably applies...
@VanillaLake Well, fortunately my Dreamcast's original drive is still working, and the system is a refurbished one that I bought around 10 years ago, and it still works perfectly, both with original and burned discs, so I guess I'm quite lucky, then.
I do feel that a lot of people don't take very good care of their consoles, leaving them to accumulate dust on a shelf or just dumping them in a plastic bag in a closet and so on.
All my consoles are still in perfect working order and in mint condition.
@NinChocolate A world in which we would like to continue playing our games, even when the cd drives of our consoles have long since given up the ghost...
Yes! This is what I need to finally play the Sega Saturn version of SotN! ^^
@RatKing64 It's a result of their dismantling of Team Andromeda at the time; things got lost in the shuffle. They're hardly the first company to lose source code — Silent Hill HD Collection was notoriously buggy and "unfinished" because the porting team had to work with earlier builds of the games due to Konami not having the source code for the release versions.
At any rate, if more people get to experience the whole Panzer Dragoon trilogy, I'm all for it. <3
@TossedLlama You're welcome. Those couple of days certainly aren't going to hurt you. I reckon that from the hours and days that he has already put in to it, we'll be lucky to see a commercial product before the end of the year...
And age is just a number: I'm 46, but I still got excited, much like I do with every other bit of interesting gaming news...
@ThanosReXXX It's not that my CDs had any dirt. They were always inside their cases and I took good care of them. At home, the most expensive Sony CD players used to show failures very soon and nobody knew why.
@VanillaLake Ah, you mean the discs themselves affecting the player or simply discs not being readable anymore? I suppose that is not only a question of care but also a matter of quality of surroundings, as I like to call it.
Meaning that if you are in a more variable or extreme climate, the discs will suffer no matter how well you take care of them. Which is why I store them dry and dark and at room temperature where possible. (like right now in the summer, my whole house is warmer than normal, so I can do only so much to regulate the temperature and humidity)
@ThanosReXXX No, not the CDs but the CD players. The lenses, probably. DVD players had less issues at home.
Huge fan of this guys work. Especially how easily he explains what he did. Amazing work!
@pabloff9
Agreed. Even the single player was the best I've played.
I just bought a modchip for my Saturn, about a year ago. They weren't hard to find. But this will be useful for devs, hopefully we see more translations in the future.
Not surprising that Sega lost the source to PDS. At some point, everything went into dumpsters, even our dear hedgehog. They sure could've used source when they ported Sonic to the GBA
Awesome! This gives me extra incentive to invest in a Saturn soon. I missed out on all the Saturn goodness, and there's a lot of titles I never got to play. I had the choice of Saturn or PlayStation back then, and Final Fantasy 7 and Tactics swayed me to PS1. In hindsight, I feel like I should have chosen the Saturn, since the stuff is so hard to find now. But then again, the JP hardware has most of the best games- remember that the Saturn actually beat the N64 in software and hardware sales in Japan.
Glad to see someone finally accomplished what was once thought to be impossible. This is a huge achievement.
Love the look of the Japanese Saturn.
Sega lost the source code to panzer??? How the hell would that be allowed to happen?? That's terrible
@Nintenjoe64 I really thought we would see dreamcast VC games on the Wii u. But that obviously didn't happen. I understand that the Saturn is way harder to emulate then the dreamcast is though!
@Turbo857 @pabloff9 Saturn Bomberman is my all-time favorite video game. Easily. It's currently and forever hanging out in the CD drive of my Sega Saturn which is totally hooked up to my TV.
@VanillaLake
If you've modded your Wii, should look into 3DS. It's total control just like the Wii was. Playing Monster Hunter Generations since yesterday, and can just dump the save and inject into my cartridge once it arrives this weekend after release. You'll want a New 3DS if you want Neo Geo, CPS1, CPS2, Genesis, SegaCD, 32X, SNES and BS Satellaview to run great. But either way you can install 3DS games, all kinds of GBA virtual console (and SNES virtual console on New 3DS).
Some English Translated and Modified Games I Have
Fire Emblem Fates undub, Bravely Default and Second "uncensored" versions, Mother 3, Fire Emblem 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7th Saga, Zelda Ancient Tablets BS, Zelda Triforce of Wisdom BS, Dream Runners BS (Chrono Trigger sequel), DQ Monsters Caravan Heart, Rhythm Heaven Silver, Dragon Quest 1/2, Breath of Fire 1/2, Secret of Mana 2 (Seiken Densetsu 3), Terranigma, Romancing SaGa, Bahamut Lagoon, Tactucs Ogre Let Us Cling Together, Shin Megami Tensei 1/2,
Those are just the installed virtual console. There's countless other translated games playable via emulator- Langrisser II on Genesis, for example.
AWESOME!!!!
I have a sega saturn i got not long ago.
I had to install a mod chip to play burnt CDs of games on it.
But with this all i will need is a USB!
I can't WAIT.
And i could kiss this man!
He is making me into ONE happy old school gamer!
@JaxonH Yeah, I had to do it because Fatal Frame 4 was released in Japan only and I wanted to play it on my European Wii with English subtitles. I could have not played the (original) game without soft-modifying Wii and you all know how much I love that franchise (I bought the Wii U Limited Edition of Maiden of Black Water).
@VanillaLake
Ya, NNID is JaxonH. Shoot me a request and I'll accept next time I'm on.
***see email for answer to other question***
im glad this site covers more than just nintendo, you guys need to relax. you would understand if you were trying to run a thorough site
@VanillaLake No.
Saw this exact video a couple of months back. Definitly interesting to watch.
Amazing news
would it have not been easier just to make a flashcart ???
plus, how is it ok for NL writers to brag about hacking consoles for the purpose of illegally loading ROMs onto it, but the rest of us get hard core 8itched at by mods when we talk about hacking and methods ???
hell, this article even mentioned the person's name, and sure as hell no mention of not being approving
yet another hypocritical rule ???
I'm JUUUUUUST Sayin'
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