Yooka-Laylee caused a big stir when it was crowdfunded through Kickstarter, with developer Playtonic Games being formed by a group of experienced former Rare employees. When we went hands on and visited the studio we couldn't help but be excited about its potential.
Playtonic Games has been relatively quiet in the past year, however, being clear that its focus has now been on the nitty gritty of making the game; having now made a lot of progress it's come out with a major blog post to showcase just how far it's come.

The image above gives a flavour of how the game's looking, and the studio has revealed a little around the story and its plans to build the franchise through its storytelling.
Yooka and Laylee's adventure will take them deep inside the work halls of a baneful business, as the buddy-duo seek out the magical Pagies required to explore the mysterious Grand Tomes. The dexterous pair will seek to unlock the ancient secrets of these bewitching books, as they battle to thwart corporate creep Capital B and his devious scheme to absorb all of the world's literature… and convert them into pure profit.
Our ambition with Yooka-Laylee is to create a story and cast of characters that will live on as part of future Playtonic Games, so you can be sure there will be plenty of secrets, back stories and punch lines to discover when you join the Lizard and Bat on their epic adventure.

Collectibles will naturally be a big part of the game and have various uses - Pagies will unlock 'Grand Tomes', while Quills can be used to buy new moves from "serpent salesman Trowzer".
Another key component will be a colourful cast, with the developer talking about two new characters so far:
The latter is a ruthless, exosuit-wearing fowl, who's making the best of a bad situation under the corporate rule of Capital B. The good doctor wasn't always this unpleasant, but the ruthless takeover of his Quack Corp organisation has persuaded Quack to concoct all manner of crude inventions to satisfy the demands of his new boss – and the shareholders, of course.
Quack's sweet, naeve prodigy, Dr. Puzz proved far more morally rigid than her former colleague, breaking ties with Quack Corp as soon as the exosuits started stirring – and taking her own inventions with her. The tentacled technician – designed by Ed 'Mumbo Jumbo' Bryan – is the gateway to all of Yooka-Laylee's wild and wonderful transformations, which we'll be revealing in the near future.

Finally, backers of the Kickstarter campaign will get access to a 'Toybox' area in July, which is a self-contained space designed for showing off the mechanics and allowing players to experiment. Playtonic isn't quite ready to talk release details for the full game, though.
So there you have it, lots of lovely details on Yooka-Laylee. Let us know what you think in the comments, while the full blog post is linked below.
[source playtonicgames.com]
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Happy to be a backer. Only thing I've backed on Kickstarter actually. This group of guys have proved themselves in the past with a couple of my favorite games, and I feel good about this one. Though I was wrong in guessing the main villian was a bear. This will do.
In general, I don't back things on Kickstarter, but I'm starting to wish I'd backed this. Keeps looking better and better. Looking forward to see how it continues to develop and hope it can really bring back the B-K charm.
Ha! I told you so, @rjejr
Looks gorgeous. I hope this turns out well.
Probably should be clarified that you had to contribute at a certain tier to get access the toy box. The way it's worded in the article makes it seem like everyone will get it.
@Yoshi So will it be like a DLC thing for people that didn't back that much, or people who didn't back at all?
I love how the villain in this game is a jab at Microsoft. Glad I backed this project with the ToyBox +!
Somehow I feel like they try to let out a bit steam from working for Microsoft with that plot with the whole making literature (games) into cash plot of the villain. But who knows really, maybe I'm just reading too much into it.
Also remember the toybox is a PC only thing sadly, from what I recall anyway. I don't even own one. I'm getting the Wii U game though.
It's nice to know they're still working with the October release date in mind, even though I won't hold my breath for a release that month. Hope I'm wrong, though; with the Zelda delay, this has become by far my most anticipated game of the year.
@DefHalan No, because it's like an extensive demo. It was originally advertised as a spoiler free, self contained space for you to play around in, but they said it's going to be a bit bigger than that. If you've got the full game, there's no point in wanting to buy this as an extra, because it's like playing a stripped down version of it. It's really only special because you get it before the game comes out.
@Yoshi So it won't have anything exclusive? It sounds like it could just be a fun place to explore and those backers could still get it early. Whatever, now a days I am unlikely to chase after extras like that. I am mostly just playing through a game so I can start the next one lol
Oh my god, it's looking awesome so far! So glad I backed this.
Looks awesome. I'm delighted I backed this game.
@DefHalan We can't say for certain if it won't have anything exclusive, but it most likely will not. My best guess is that it's a few areas condensed down into one giant area for you to play in. Playtonic said that "There won’t be any objectives to beat, just a controllable duo, nice music and a few surprises too…" The surprises might be the only exclusive thing, but I wouldn't say you're missing out.
I don't have any words to say about this...
Hyperventilates in joy and excitement
Yooka Laylee backer here. Looking forward to the Toybox+ and this is a game to look forward to, at least on a spiritual level, on the Wii U as this is a game besides Zelda thats gained great hype and will start back up with this news. Yeah, it will be on other consoles, but seeing this game on Wii U is something to anticipate and will gather attention, given Playtonic's past roots. Really excited! Might as well listen to Grant Kirkhope and David Wise's works in this game once again, folks!
I had pretty much forgotten about this and it kind of makes me think my kickstarter emails are just being sent straight to the spam folder.
edit: hey look there they are
I have no doubt this will be worth the price of a full retail game. Would gladly pay 60$ for this especially from the people behind it!
Wow, that's some amazing progress compared to the first couple of screens they released in the beginning. Talent positively drips from the pages and it literally oozes old style Rare. Microsoft must be gnashing their teeth...
This should be a must-buy for every Nintendo gamer and Rare fan.
Looks awesome.
@ricklongo I think they just got sick of my pestering them. I've never contributed to Kickstarter, and probably never will, but now I wish I had. My kid is going to be really mad I didn't, he'd be all over that toybox.
Oh, and thank's for the shout out, best email I've received all day.
This looks amazing.
@DiscoGentleman "I'm so excited!"
I know, isn't it such a nice feeling for a change? Everybody so happy and on the same page. (seems like it's been a tough few days, weeks, months around here) Good news is a welcome relief.
Awesome, a Kickstarter game that I'm still very excited for. Yooka Laylee is going to be great
Day freaking one. Easily in my Top 5 most anticipated games.
Everything they said sounds great imo. Looks like they stay faithful to the N64 days as well.
Release details will be nice, I just home every console promised will actually see a release.
This puts mighty number 9 to shame lol.
Day one purchase! We have to support Playtonic's first game!
My only complaint is that Banjo and Kazooie are CUTE and these guys ARE NOT!
They have to make a physical copy of this. I really want to see a Wii U copy of Yooka-Laylee on my shelf. I have great faith in their ability to deliver an awesome title.
"the ruthless takeover of his Quack Corp organisation (Rare) has persuaded Quack to concoct all manner of crude inventions (like Kinect) to satisfy the demands of his new boss (Microsoft) – and the shareholders, of course."
Hehehe,love it.
Looks great, but I'm still nervous that the Wii U version might get shunted like with a Hat in Time.
@HeroponRiki Considering who these guys are and their history with Nintendo I'm sure it will be alright.
@HeroponRiki Yeah, you really shouldnt worry at all. High expectations for a quality developer, and they will deliver.
As a long time SNES/N64 Rareware supporter all hype is anticipating Yooka-Laylee!
I really hope this game turns out well.
[starts bawling out of sheer joy upon gazing at the screenshots]
3D platformers are back... they're back!!
I'm beyond excited for this game. I backed enough for the toybox so I'm itching for July now. Not only that but that's around the time of my birthday! It looks beautiful so far and I have complete faith it'll turn out fantastically.
Take notes, Comcept. THIS is how you do it.
Great to finally get more information. I can't wait to play it and I'm hoping there will be a physical release!
As a Kickstarter backer, July can't come soon enough! Just hope my PC is up to it, haven't used it as a gaming rig since Old Republic came out sooo many years ago!.!.!
July. My birthday month! So glad I backed this for the enhanced ToyBox.
I'm getting it for Wii U , but I'll buy it on Steam as well. To show my support, and to play through it again to get achievements! Trading cards too, I bet.
"Hivory Towers" - Beenius
I wonder will this become an NX game too or will it fittingly be the Wii Us last and final hurrah?
Man it looks gorgeous. I sure hope my Wii U can run it...
Ironically, I´m gonna get this game on Xbox One along with Rare´s Sea of Thieves.
Also, the plot is deliciously meta. I mean, "devious scheme to absorb all of the world's literature… and convert them into pure profit"? Change "literature" with "games" and you get a scathing critique of modern-day Rare. And "Capital B" (as in, "Witch with a capital B", if you didn't get the pun - also, the character is an old hag due to this realization: calling it now) pretty much shows golden-age Rare's classic censor-dodging brilliance is back and better than ever. Ladies and laddies, Rare. Is. Back.
I loved the jab at Microsoft, but it really makes you wonder - they must have been pissed off to make a plot like that.
Still, looking forward to this one even if I didn't back it up! It will be a lovely platformer!
Hahaha! Trowzer snake!
@AlexSora89 It's way more likely that capital B simply stands for 'bee' as in honeybee, which would be an excellent explanation for his stinger-like nose, yellow complexion and his staff with the honeycomb on it...
A doctor named Quack?! Wow, that's about as unfortunate a name as someone could have outside of some of the localized names in the "Ace Attorney" series!
@Luna_110
Jabs like this are common across all media, and gaming is no exception. One example is Lab Zero's Skullgirls after said studio's fallout with Konami: namely, a later patch "improved" the stage, according to the creators; what they did was changing a billboard originally displaying the Konami logo.
@ThanosReXXX
Wait a sec... @TheRealThanos, is that you?
What is the scope of this game? I mean, is it a $20 game or a $50 game?
I hope it turns out successful (I'm interested) and captures that '90s rare magic. And, if so, Nintendo will take notice and get the band back together just like the old days.
Looks amazing! I loved it since I first saw it, now my expectations are even higher... Dammit!
But the question that remains... Is it coming for NX?
This'll be a great fit for the Wii U.
I honestly wished I had helped fund this. That said, I can't wait for it to come out!
Happy to have backed this, and really looking forward to its release, especially with progress like that.
Hoping Playtonic stay together after they've completed the project and they manage their nostalgia credit carefully, since I would enjoy seeing a full renaissance of 3d platformers.
Hope this gets a Wii U retail release
Lovely, can't wait so find out and see more of the game!
Although I am somewhat getting the impression that they're going a bit overboard with the Banjo-Kazooie tributes... It sounds like almost a carbon copy of everything that made Banjo-Kazooie, well... Banjo-Kazooie, only with new characters.
From the animal duo themselves and their moves to the transformations, the jiggies being replaced by pagies... It all just feels a bit too blatantly overdone, and and I just really really hope they put enough effort into making this its own thing, instead of 'that Banjo-Kazooie-like game by the Banjo-Kazooie creators' just to please fans of the old games.
Heck, even that pic at the top of the characters underwater, reaching for that pagy (pagie?) is a carbon copy of a piece of B-K artwork. :/ (sorry dunno how to embed a pic here)
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/banjokazooie/images/7/7a/PromotionalPoster9.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100425073503
That aside, it looks excellent so far!
So stoked about this. Proud backer. Can't wait to recieve my Wii-U codes...
It occurs to me that this is the first game that I have been genuinely excited about playing for a long time. I really hope Nintendo looks at this and is inspired. Personally, I want more colourful, innovative, imaginative worlds with warm, humorous characters and atmosphere that just brings out my inner child. I want more games to make me as excited as this one.
I'm thankful I backed this though I'm questioning whether my decision to go with Wii U was a poor one as Nintendo seems to be pretty much abandoning it after June 2016.
I know Yooka-Laylee is going to be more Banjo-Kazooie than a new Banjo-Kazooie, but I still want to see Microsoft/Rare put their best effort in and make Threeie. Dream scenario is playtonic works with Rare and Microsoft Studios on a new Banjo game.
@Yoshi Toy Box sounds like their test map. Alot of Rare games contained their test maps hidden deep within the code. I'll never forget the day spectacular Citadel in Goldeneye was found!
@Luffymcduck They already have a publisher for the physical edition (Team17), but it's uncertain what regions and versions will get it.
@SirAAVBB I'm getting Sea of Thieves (Xbox One) too, the trailer looks awesome.
@Luna_110 Not really. Old Rare was always making fun of everybody, including themselves.
@CB85 @HappyMaskedGuy @DekuOnion
Recent Nintendo platformers (Super Mario 3D World, New Super Mario Bros. U) are very uninspired. While Yooka-Laylee of course is making a lot of fan service, that it's not a bad thing per se, I wish the characters were even more similar to Banjo and Kazooie (I prefer them). It would be a dream if Playtonic and Rare could collaborate somehow in making a new Banjo game. After all, two companies working together for making a game is something usual. There are still some great people working at Rare and it's obvious that many talented ex Rare members are at Playtonic now, while others are just working for them as freelancers.
Xbox One is a really good choice for Rare Replay alone, and it's getting Sea of Thieves, that implies Rare's break with the Kinect era, finally!
@VanillaLake I think the break with the Kinect era was obvious at E3 2014. If Microsoft was still serious about Kinect, they wouldn't have created Kinect-less XB1 bundles.
Let's hope it actually comes to Wii U...
@Grumblevolcano Obviously. I mean that Sea of Thieves is Rare's departure from Kinect, it is the first Rare modern game not developed for Kinect.
YESS
Everything looks GREAT!
@AlexSora89 Yep, got tired of "TheReal" which I only chose out of necessity since I didn't want to be "Thanos32785"...
(I was using the name LONG before there was ever any internet to speak of, but once I finally got online, I was way too late to claim the name)
So now I am Thanos Rex, king of all the 'Thanosses' with the added triple X to designate age, adult entertainment and what not. All part of being a 46 year old mad Titan...
@CB85 "dunno how to embed a pic here"
That is actually quite easy: go to edit mode to edit your comment, and change url to img.
There are two of them; one to open the command and one to close it, with a /.
@DekuOnion I can understand why you would want that, but besides the classic core team of Rare now being Playtonic, they were also largely responsible for the original Banjo Kazooie.
At Microsoft, there is now only one single person left who had anything to do with the original two games, and to expect him to be able to pull of a third game in the same vein as the first two is pretty unrealistic. The humor, the levels, the music and everything else that made these games so great, was a perfect team effort and was created by a team very much in tune with each other.
Microsoft's Rare largely consists of new people that never had anything to do with the early games, and a part of that team never even worked on the original Xbox games or first couple of Xbox 360 games, so their experience with those IP's is rather limited.
Looks a lot like Banjo Kazooie which is amazing, I want to play this game so much!
Sadly won't be on Wii U since Nintendo move out from Brazil and is cheaper buy on PS4 to me =/.
@AlexSora89 only the true rare can bring it.im glad they went on there own.and happy to show the world that they are back just a different name.in your face Microsoft.yes I know this game will be on xbone.i don't care wii u all the way.unless it don't happen then I'll just buy it on the ps4
@ThanosReXXX
Speaking of which, the first issue of the All-New All-Different Marvel version of Deadpool is out in Italy, and for the first time we'll see his stories published here outside of trade paperbacks - two issues a month, classic comics style. I won't go anywhere else as far as ANADM is concerned, though - Mary Jane as Tony Stark's new flame, just for the sake of keeping her away from Peter again? No thanks.
@slim80
Indeed. Playtonic IS Rare more than Rare is.
@AlexSora89 Speaking of which? I had to re-read my own comment to see how you came to bring that up. I'm old Marvel, and my avatar is probably all-encompassing...
@rjejr
As we can see you ask for something and it happens, this included. Guess you aren't serious enough about the LCU discount (or it just happened in Europe!)
But you are too negative. Saying Zelda U will be delayed and boom! Delayed till '17
I never backed this because it didnt need my money but I will buy it if it lives to the hype.
@ThanosReXXX
Speaking of Marvel in general.
@AlexSora89 Yeah, I figured so. I just didn't immediately make the connection with me explaining the how and why of my name change and you mentioning All New Marvel and other characters. Even within the same universe there isn't necessarily a clear connection.
@ThanosReXXX
I'm totally a fan of the two Spider-men swinging around, though. Why Miles Morales made it "mandatory" to kill off Peter Parker is anyone's guess.
@AlexSora89 It's been many years since I've read a Marvel comic book, or any other comic book for that matter, so that's all new to me.
@sinalefa Well I do much prefer when the good stuff happens rather than the bad stuff.
Oh wow, the game is looking really good. Last screenshots I saw, I was beginning to worry about it as the level designs were bland and the characters still looked stiff and slightly unappealing. I didn't know how far into development those screens were taken, but my hype for this game just shot up about 10,000c.
@rjejr Somebody just kicked in a big door with the word 'dòh' written on it...
@ThanosReXXX
Comic book canon is weird.
@ThanosReXXX Is that "doh" in relation to my reply to Sinalefa? I always get doh usage confused b/c when I was a drunken lad in college "DOH!" was what I would exclaim whenever I saw a hot chick. I still do it now but w/o the !. so it's barley audible.
@rjejr That sounds more like a 'The Simpsons' dòh. The one I meant was of the 'no sh** Sherlock' kind. The part about the open door should have given that away...
@AlexSora89 Comic books are weird, period.
Can you still get the toybox? Is the Kickstarter closed?
@ThanosReXXX Yes, my doh is a Homer Simpson doh, we just like to eat different things.
Looks amazing.
Hoping the final game has multiplayer.
The 4 player battles in the banjo games were awesome.
This news deserves 100 comments Proud backer!
Every time I see the pagie I think it looks like a pop tart 😂
@ThanosReXXX Random Indie Gamer Chick tweet caught my attention this morning. I'm OK w/ carts if the game works in a home and handheld console, maybe even a tablet, just don't make it big and ugly like the N64, you shouldn't have to jam and cram things in yet be delicate at the same time. DS/3DS carts are fine.
https://twitter.com/IndieGamerChick/status/734271508688703488
@rjejr This morning? That's already old news and that "chick's" reaction to it, is as short-sighted as all the other quickfire comments I have seen on this. First off, everybody that is against can apparently only think as far as it being old skool cartridges that were bulky and didn't have a whole lot of capacity, instead of thinking about SD cards, flash cards and 3DS carts, all of which can easily have a capacity of 32GB or higher, flash cards now even going into the TB's.
And the benefits by FAR outweigh the disadvantages:
no installs, so instant play
next to no loading times
far more sturdy than disc-based media
easily interchangeable between portable and home console (if they go that route)
no moving parts
easier to take with you
And so forth... I could probably come up with more, but these are the first and most important ones that come to mind.
I'm almost tempted to register for a Twitter account solely for the purpose of stomping stupid people like that into the ground, where they belong...
But we're going way off topic here. Great looking game, that Yooka-Laylee...
I want to play this one.
@ThanosReXXX You seem to do just fine w/o a Twitter account, don't start now.
@rjejr Yeah, I know, that's why I said 'almost'...
I have no need or want for social media, there's nothing social about it, like most of the internet. The charm of it all is to find the few people that are normal and nice to chat with, and luckily I've found a couple of them here and there...
@ThanosReXXX "and luckily I've found a couple of them here and there"
Yeah me too. And consider myself very fortunate for it, considering my mood swings go from cranky old guy to curmudgeon. I swear there was a time when I was happier on here. Maybe not much, but occasionally at least. Yooka-Laylee news was I'm pretty sure the best thing on here all week. And I'm not even saying that tying to be on topic, it's true.
I got the guts, but the guts need fuel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U3H2IDkhvY
@rjejr Had to look up what "curmudgeon" means. Been living here for so long, I don't learn too many exotic or ancient English words anymore. Seems to me it's just a variation on a theme, so going from cranky to that isn't all that big of a step, apparently.
And the clip: ah, good old Mickey Rourke before he got his plasticine mask...
Want some fuel? This would be the kind of fuel I would want to see on Nintendo's next console:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlPXGMymw0s
@ThanosReXXX Want some fuel? This would be the kind of fuel I would want to see on Nintendo's next console:
Well done. But I hope you're 'wrong, b/c 1 month after that game came out on the Wii, this one came out on the PS3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ear4AYn1t0
1 month later. And some people wonder why Nintendo has a "kiddie" image.
@rjejr Right before I clicked on the link, I was thinking to myself: "hope it isn't Motor Storm" but lo and behold...
But in all honesty, I really don't see that being more adult. Simply because of the HD graphics? It is the same sort of game, after all, except without the stunts 'n stars and with motorcycles as additional vehicles. Other than that, it's pretty much an HD version of Excite Truck.
I actually liked the over the top arcade style of Excite Truck more than what it would have been if it would have been a more realistic game.
Wanting a realistic terrain racer on the Wii gets you this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X70ZYZluvGc
this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa5FKc9auHI
or this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZgMD12Mh_o
And keep in mind that those are some of the better realistic terrain racers on the Wii, otherwise you'll end up with dross like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVe5RMt7eOs
(hope you don't experience any motion sickness watching that... )
But imagining a sequel to Excite Truck in HD/UHD (no idea what NX is capable of) already makes me feel all warm and cozy inside...
@ThanosReXXX Yep. all about the graphics. Well that and the overall atmosphere of Motorstorm being a big event with actual people in an actual setting, Excite Truck is simply an arcade racer. But there is a huge difference in graphics, it's not like the difference between 720p and 900p or 30fps vs 60fps. That Wii game is barely shovelware by today's standards.
If I had to have a game looking like Excite Truck I'd rather have Cel Damage HD. I've always been a fan of cell shading.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtI448SdIL8
I'm not too worried though, Shin'en showed what the Wii U can do with Fast Racing Neo, so I'm confident NX will be powerful enough graphically. Well at least for 2 1/2 years after it releases when Xbox X and PS5 launch. Then any 3rd parties who may have ported games to NX will just leave again. Which doesn't give NX much of a window to grow. Another reason why holiday 2016 would have been better, longevity. Oh well.
Guess there's always Project CARS. Or not.
@rjejr Well, I'm a bit less judgmental: a good game is still a good game, pixely or not. Obviously, 3D drawn worlds and games age far less gracefully, but even so: I truly laugh at people not being able to enjoy older games anymore because #bad graphics #clumsy controls and whatever other lame excuse they can come up with not to see through that and just experience some old skool fun, which is what Excite Truck and many other games deliver by the bucket loads.
You're going a bit overboard with the doomed by default attitude for NX, in my humble opinion. Let's just wait and see, my friend.
I'm just as annoyed as you at Nintendo's continued silence on the topic, but I've decided to step over that hurdle and just focus on what they WILL show, and that is the next Zelda.
And like I've already said many times before: might very well be that they tell us something about NX mere weeks after E3 2016 is done. I for one would certainly not be surprised if they did...
@ThanosReXXX Well emotionally I do try to be hopeful for the NX, but rationally all I see are reasons for it to fail. Fail as in what Iwata said - less sales than Gamecube - though 25 mil should be doable. Of course I thught Wii U would eventually do 50m after it's slow start as Ntinedo dropped the price, advertised more and got Nitneod Selects up and running. But no, Wii U launched at $299 and $349, and here we are 3 1/2 years later, and it's still $299, same low end price as the day it launched.
Though before Wii took the world by storm I didn't see that happening either. Not that I was looking, man, 10 years ago seems so long ago as far as my interest in all things Ntinedo.
But NX could sell. Games will be there, 1 way or another they'll merge 3DS and Wii U Games into 1 set. But the price needs to be low, really low. And they need to explain how it all works well.
Just too many ifs, buts and maybes for me not to be down about it's prospects.
@rjejr Well, just look at it this way then, it's what enables me to sleep perfectly well at night: there is no new console/handheld yet, so there is also no forecast/prospect to be made, other than doom prophecies based largely on conjecture and idle speculation.
And if so, there's also nothing to be down about, since you can't be down about nothing or something that isn't there. You're already seeing the banana peel on the sidewalk at the end of the street and because of that, you are fully expecting to slip and fall...
Time to dive into some buddhist parables to ease the mind and to be able to put things in perspective:
http://progressivebuddhism.blogspot.nl/2009/04/few-buddhist-parables.html
And they're just fun to read too...
And while we're at it, here's one I was once told during my career as sales executive that has a more modern setting:
http://www.design.caltech.edu/erik/Misc/Prepare_3_Envelopes.html
@ThanosReXXX Here are my 2 favorite parables.
Look before you leap.
He who hesitates is lost.
I think Wii U may be the first envelope and 3DS the 2nd, that makes NX the 3rd.
@ThanosReXXX Oh, and I think the Chinese ripped-off the Brady Bunch for that horse parable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i5yTaIiFfY
@rjejr remind me to never ever give you any friendly spiritual guidance again... (look before you leap... tsss, as if that compares to ancient chinese wisdom... )
And it was a donkey, dag-nabbit...
(and points subtracted for making me watch that)
I like this one better:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMbs1RyfgRA
I actually knew a much better one, a stick men Brady Bunch parody, but I can't seem to find it anymore. Damn the internet...
""marital relations usually does the trick"
Oh man, you have no idea how much that one hurts...
@rjejr Well, if you want my two cents on that: I think that morals come from man himself, born out of self-awareness and the society he has grown up in and is accustomed to, hence morals being different everywhere, although most societies will concur that killing or stealing is bad, unless it's in case of defense or survival...
And hypothetically speaking (since I don't believe) did God not offer man free choice? So (the choice between) good and evil is probably already there, thus not created, and the choice to go left or right is entirely up to us.
But having said that: according to Stephen Hawking, there is neither a need nor a possibility for the Universe to have been created by any divine entity, since there needed to have been time before there could have been such entity to create said Universe, and since the creation of the Universe simultaneously created time as well, the outcome (although imaginably so, pretty sad for some (or a lot) of people) is that there is no divine being, at least not one responsible for creation of the Universe...
There might be a higher race somewhere out there, though. What with the universe being so big, there's bound to be some more life forms somewhere. Hate to think of vastly superior beings, though.
Mostly because Hawking also made the very logical assumption that IF they do exist, and IF they have the means to get here, then we should be VERY afraid, since all they will want to do is conquer us, like all superior societies have done with lesser ones throughout history...
So, no omnipotent beings (although depending on their advance in comparison to ours, they may appear to be) but still potent enough to wipe out all those silly, bickering-over-nothing, war-mongering little Earthlings...
P.S.
Sorry for the horse/donkey mix-up. Apparently I forgot what I sent you...
@rjejr P.S. Just in case you didn't get that yet, the "hurt" (a little, so only partially joking) is from me being single.
Oh, and we "need" to leave this topic, more important matters at hand in which another older and wiser mind like yourself is needed:
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/05/denis_dyack_blames_unethical_journalists_for_almost_killing_shadow_of_the_eternals
Pack some heat before you decide to jump in...
@ThanosReXXX I was skipping that article, didn't seem to concern me. Not that much does on here these days, but a paranoid delusional developer whining, well I just can't be bothered.
Time to go delete half of this thread.
@rjejr What's that about with you and deleting threads? I thought only BLP did that, and I don't see anything wrong or shocking with our conversation that warrants it being removed. If the mods don't think it is inappropriate, then why should we?
And by the way: I would still be interested in your two cents on my two cents that I posted before this one...
(unless it is something that offended you in some way, in which case I will apologize in advance)
@ThanosReXXX I just felt the marital relations bit was a bit too over the line for public consumption. My wife probably wouldn't have been too happy about it either. And I do know why you didn't like it. Some day when the ban hammer drops on me I assume it will be based on the totality of my work, as I always make sure not to go too far with things. So I figure if I delete a little bit here and there it makes the whole not look as bad. Though in this case I may have just gotten carried away and deleted everything, seemed quicker than re-reading everything.
And I agree with Hawking, I'm a big atheist, and Caucasian and male and hetero and Catholic, I'm very hard to offend by any general remarks. Not even the age ones.
@rjejr Catholic atheist? Shouldn't that be former? (or reformed, or whatever the heck it's called)
Anyways, nice chat. Must be an age thing, since there are very few people that could join in on topics like these without going overboard with it... (tips hat)
@ThanosReXXX "Catholic atheist?"
Well you know me, never do anything the easy way. I was born and raised a Catholic, did all my sacraments, have a nice relationship with the teachings of Jesus, just can't wrap my head around any "god" I'd want to worship, so one probably doesn't exist. And if it does exist, well it probably isn't "god".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYW_lPlekiQ
The church still exists though, the Pope is huge, can't deny the existence of that patriarchal society. Can't deny the Crusades happened either so not promoting it.
My wife is jewish, we're raising our kids jewish, doing the bar mitzvah thing, attending services, and she's even more of an atheist than I am. So's my 11 year old, they love him at Hebrew School constanty denying god's existence.
So I'm not a "practicing" Catholic, but I'm Catholic. I'd only consider myself an ex-Catholic if I started practicing another religion. A marine is still a marine after they retire, no? Semper Fi. If I get a really dark tan I'm still Caucasian.
Don't get me started on transgender bathroom usage though, I still haven't figured that one out. These things take time.
@rjejr Worship or bowing to is a bridge too far for me too, but if one truly did exist and would make himself/herself and the accompanying intentions known, then I might come to respect and/or revere them, but to serve and such sounds more like slavery than bliss to me.
Good point on the whole catholic thing. I believe most people that step away from the church use the official distinction "practicing" to acknowledge the ones that are still frequenting institutions like that.
And although do I think it's quite commendable that you at the very least let your kids get acquainted/be familiar with all these customs and traditions, I myself would feel rather awkward or strange being in any kind of holy place (besides visiting as a tourist) to celebrate some event there while I myself am not religious. I'd expect the more devout parents to be stabbing me in the back with all their piercing stares...
The whole transgender thing baffles me too, although if you can be same sex orientated, then it's probably fair to say that you could actually be 'straight but born in the wrong body' too...
Those going from woman to man should apply the slogan: "don't be a d***, get one."
As for me personally: as you know I live in Amsterdam, so I'm pretty much used to all those kinds of people by now. And I don't care either way, as long as people act normal and respectful. If them going that way makes them happy, then so be it. You reportedly only have one life after all...
@ThanosReXXX OK, I think ti's time to go wreck havoc in another thread. If the guys from Playtonic ever come to read this one we maybe banned from playing YL. Or they may give us free copies, close call.
https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/05/poll_do_you_want_the_rumoured_mh_next_generation_portable_to_be_separate_from_nx
@rjejr Way ahead of you, my friend. Commented on it a while ago, so I'll accept your invite since I'm already there anyway, but do join in...
And while you're at it, why don't you return the favor by giving the Shadow of the Eternals article a go?
After all, I really did my best to get that article on here and the comment section is actually fairly tepid compared to some others we've been in and/or avoided...
@ThanosReXXX Well I read it all and watched the videos but I'm still not feelin' it. I don't know anything about that guy or the original game, think I'm going to keep it that way. I did watch a couple SMD64 vids, but it's mostly just rehash. I'm going to go take a power nap now before dinner.
@Captain_Gonru Well, you're welcome to join in, but read fast, because angry old man @rjejr is about to sanitize some of 'em...
@rjejr SMD64 Didn't do any Shadow of the Eternal videos, so what are we talking about here?
Also have to wonder if you were ever a fan of the original, or had some fun playing it if you did, because in my honest opinion this prequel/sequel or whatever it is, captures the atmosphere of the original just fine, and I love the sound effects and the teaser trailer has that hair raising music that so fits a horror theme. I liked it when I first saw it, and I still like it now, so I really hope this does finally gets a commercial release somewhere around this year or the next. It would be a nice edition to the NX library...
@Captain_Gonru Yep, they're all pretty complicated matters, and there's probably quite a bit more to it, according to scholars and people in the know.
You also have to throw the whole 'free will' theory into the mix, making the divine parent a sort of liberal one (would that also be right wing?) because he/she doesn't berate the children directly anymore, like in ye olde days, but (apparently) let's them make their own mistakes and in between stumbling, falling and getting up again, some of us actually learn something to benefit themselves and the people around them in a positive way.
Bur like I said before to @rjejr, that's also our own inner morals. To me, no sane person could possibly think that killing or stealing is the right thing to do, so anyone with half a brain can be one of the good guys, and people with less compassion for the people around him (or himself) probably ends up on the wrong side of society, although also in that case, there are so many additional things to factor in. Not every poor or angry kid becomes a criminal, and not every well-provided happy kid stays on the good side, so ultimately it is indeed free choice.
That is also why I said to @rjejr that good and evil (as a concept/institution) probably already exists in man himself without the need for any prompting from a good or evil deity.
Now a catalyst to incite either of these choices can of course be some outside factor. And there once again, there's a difference or several paths, if you will. Some actions can be bad, but can be prompted by the need to defend or survive, or through grief/revenge. Still not good, but mostly understandable as long as the person acting out this kind of behavior isn't normally an evil one. And then there's the malicious person, everything exactly the opposite: personal gain, ego, greed, you name it.
The mind does boggle, because this little bit of text is only the start of the conversation that some bigger minds will probably have or have already had since man started diving into topics like these.
And what the heck are we doing talking about these things on a gaming-related website, were light entertainment should be the reason to visit?
Although reading some people's comments under certain articles, you would think they are indeed about to suit up for some kind of war...
@Captain_Gonru Yeah, I'm not sure what you read, I deleted about half of them. As I said before I'm bored. I'm so bored now I just post random things so I can spend time going back and deleting them. Think I'm going to go buy a 3D printer so I can make a Hello Kitty amiibo. It will be just as functional as a real amiibo even without the NFC chip.
@ThanosReXXX "so what are we talking about here?"
I'm about as on topic as NL these days. I know, lets write an article about the defunct nonsense MH handheld console. Or some TMNT toys on the day the TMNT videogame releases on PS3 and PS4.
I kind of feel like, no matter how far off topic I go, NL isn't far behind.
@Captain_Gonru Paranoia. My kids read these comments sometimes and it was getting a bit personal, as in marital relations personal. I don't care about the religion stuff, that all just got swept up in a sea of deletions.
@Captain_Gonru Well, real or not, free will is a concept used in philosophy and in discussions of people like me: I really like to think, no: I NEED to have the feeling that I'm not beholden to anyone, that I decide my own walk of live and that it's me and ONLY me that makes the choices in order to make my own destiny.
A being knowing all we have done, are doing and will be doing will not really change any of that by definition. It's like the theory of being able to travel into the past or the future: one theory says that changing things there will bring about the exact thing that you're trying to change (especially in the case of the past), and another theory states that it doesn't matter what you do, since what is bound to happen is bound to happen with or without your help. You might postpone it, but it is inevitable (queue Final Destination... ) Yet another theory states that the past is empty and the future is useless if we skip the present (mind blown already?) because there is a path we must travel to create that future. Another favorite of mine is the grandfather/father paradox: going into the past to prevent your abusive father from ever committing any crimes by killing him, potentially running the risk that you will also never be born. (although people found a loophole there by letting your potential mother marry someone else, so you'd just get another father but you will still be born)
And the quantum theory is another fun one... If I remember correctly (for purity of argument's sake, I'm not going to look it up) then that means that all possible choices are already there and we, or the we that we know is only one of the choices and there are countless other universes in which the other we's are making all the other choices, which in total make up all possible choices. And they all happen simultaneously... And now my head begins to hurt...
Totally agreed on the punishment part, though. That to me is just as stupid as the original sin. Unless your baby is illegitimate, it isn't "born in sin".
Oh, and Neo could have chosen the other pill, but in order to do so he would had to have made peace with his dull life, which actually was fine to him until the awoken people decided to rip him out of his fantasy of being normal...
Ned Stark couldn't have said no because Robert was his king, and back in those days, saying no to your king was practically the same as committing suicide, unless you had an f-ing big army to back you up. So either way, he was doomed. Much like Nintendo, according to some people...
And Link? He's a much too innocent and clean hero to ever know how to play "hide the Ocarina" with his girlfriend...
@rjejr As far as off topic, yet slightly more on topic than religion and free will goes, have a peak at the rumor mill surrounding Microsoft's Xbox, that are now popping up all over the web:
http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/25/11769774/microsoft-xbox-one-slim-scorpio-rumors
http://www.engadget.com/2016/05/25/xbox-e3-2016-rumors
Good old Microsoft creating some pre-E3 buzz there, I imagine...
@Captain_Gonru "Playmation things"
They should have a clearance special - buy 3 Playmation things, get a free Wii U.
Amazon seems to be clearancing them out as well, $30 for the $120 starter pack, and $5 for the $15 figures. Now Target can have more room for ... what? PSVR and Hololens headsets? I'm guessing they'll replace the AC amiibo w/ Kirby Planet Robobot amiibo, those will sell out probably. NX will replace Wii U. Well unless PS4k replaces Wii U and nobody carries NX. $350 PS4k and $250 old PS4 and PSVR could take up a lot of floor space. Though I suppose PSVR will replace the Vita section. 3 more weeks until E3.
http://smile.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=playmation
@ThanosReXXX Thanks for the Xbox updates. All of it seems to make sense, though I think an Xbox TV would be more like a PS TV than an Xbox One, streaming those games, not playing them. And I still say X1 was revealed as a fantasy football machine first and foremost, a TV Guide second, so they'll probably have that stuff on there as well. Makes sense for MS to have a streaming player, everybody else does. I mean its hard to name a company w/o one. Well of course except for Ntineod, they ... well who knows. I think MS could sell a $100 Xbox TV much better than Sony did, MS won't be stupid enough to leave off Netflix on a tv streaming device. Couple it w/ Smartglass - if that is still a thing - and I think it could work.
Not sure about a cheaper slim w/ 2T unless MS made a deal w/ someone, 2T seems like overkill, 1TB should suffice and help keep the price down.
I'm still not interested in Xbox, but I do think MS is big enough that whatever they do affects everyone, Windows is practically on everything, and I like Hololens over VR. I might be interested in a $100 Xbox TV if it would stream all of our PC games onto our TV.
@rjejr Well, let's see them make streaming games completely lag free first, or maybe we should first see to it that EVERYONE in Europe and the States gets a decent internet connection, and then we can talk.
The Wii U GamePad was more lag free than anything (only one or two in every 60 frames per second) but the distance it can still decently operate from is pathetic, so a cross between that technology and better streaming devices should do wonders for that kind of gaming.
As for the size of the hard disks: I also don't have an Xbox One, but a friend of mine does. He has the standard 500GB model, and in between retail games and download games, with retail games also requiring to be installed before you can play them, his hard drive was already nearly completely filled after around 4,5 months.
First off, you don't have the entire 500GB at your disposal, and many games are filled with all kinds of compressed files, that will decompress once you install the game, so while there are also games that are smaller than the average Blu-ray disc (25GB), there are also plenty of games that easily go up to near double that amount, so you can imagine that putting a library for an entire family on there, such as it would probably have in your case with two kids and all, would mean that a 1 or 2TB disk really isn't overkill at all.
My friend has around 22 games installed (I believe 14 to 16 retail and the rest Xbox Live Arcade downloads, so small games), and cannot install anymore, so he has to delete a game if he wants to play a new one, or he has to go and buy an external hard drive for more storage capacity. Which is what he did, by the way...
@ThanosReXXX I didn't mean Xbox TV would stream games from the cloud, but from a home Xbox One or Win 10 PC. And I would hope by now there is better tech than what is in the 3 1/2 year old Gamepad. I'm still annoyed Nintendo couldn't figure out a way to make games rely on that 8' limit but everything else rely on WiFi - streaming TV, Miiverse, eShop, internet.
If NX streams from NX Home over Wi-Fi to NX handheld then its a non-starter for may people. NX Home needs to work like a big 3DS, same cartridge as the handheld, as you were discussing w/ Jaxon the other day. I mean, that seems so simple when we say it - home and handheld run the same games on the same media, save point on the media. Even if it means 2 complete copies of the game on the same cartridge, 25GB hi-def and 5.1, 3GB 480p and stereo. And if you download it, download it to both, transfer the save over wi-fi.
Those X1 installs for disc games is crazy, I know PS4 does the same, adn 500GB doesn't even begin to cut it, but 2TB still seems like an added expense. I bouht a 12GB PS3 adn put an 80GB in it. My other PS3 has 500GB, about half full. Guess we'll see how my PS4 life goes. But I would think they would save 2TB for the 2017 high end model, keep 1TB in this years smaller model to keep down the price. IF PS4 Neo releases at a higher price PS4 may drop, MS needs to keep pace. Though maybe that's where the $100 Xbox TV comes in? Xbox TV may be a bad name, Xbox TV Extender maybe, or just MS TV. Win 10 TV actually rolls fairly nicely off the tongue.
@rjejr Way back when the cooperation with DeNA was still actively discussed, I was already theorizing that very same thing and because of DeNA already providing game servers and streaming services, it may very well be that besides wi-fi, we can also expect 4G to be used for gaming on the go.
Provided that miss Emily Rogers is right and the mobile part of NX is going to be Nvidia/Tegra, which is basically a variation on ARM.
The home console could then still be x86, making third party support easy again, and porting up or down to handheld and back could also be done relatively easy with the right tools and middleware, which DeNA could also help Nintendo with because of the experience they have in that department.
And the thing is that, like I did indeed discuss with JaxonH, you wouldn't even need to have two copies of a game on one cart, just the one.
The hardware in combination with smart routines written into the shared Operating System (remember the "like brothers" statement that Iwata made), could do a check once a cart is inserted in either system, and display what is possible on that particular hardware platform.
So let's say that the handheld unit is going to be something in the order of 540p to 900p, then the game would display in medium settings, with some added touches missing, and on the console it would be the full blown version with all the bells and whistles. Think medium consumer PC vs gaming rig.
A solution like that is totally possible.
@Captain_Gonru Ah, misunderstood you there. I was taking those examples and placing them in 'real live' situations, as if it was happening in that specific period of time.
And I actually DID say that Ned Stark didn't have a choice so both in the show AND in real life he would be screwed either way....
And have you only watched the show or did you also read the books? I read the books long before there was ever even talk of it being turned into a TV show and let me assure you that the books have no plot holes, but it is somewhat understandable because it is very seldom that books are translated 1:1 to movies or TV shows. I think up to now, the movie series that came closest is the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Later on Peter Jackson even went too far with The Hobbit, since that was originally only a small paperback in comparison to the Bible-sized Lord of the Rings tome. And he added the three page story of Smaug to The Hobbit, to be able to flesh it out into three movies. They were still okay-ish, but one or two movies should have sufficed for such a small story.
Both of you gentlemen: some interesting ideas for the Xbox One or its successor, but I guess those rumors I posted still need to be confirmed, so maybe they're on the same level as the NX rumors, although I personally do suspect them to be a bit more realistic, and Microsoft might just reveal some of that in a couple of weeks on this year's E3. Guess we'll find out soon enough...
@Captain_Gonru Thanks for elaborating. I guess the plot holes in The Matrix movies partially stem from them not really being based on books (far as I can remember they were based on a short story) and in between installments one of the brothers decided it would be better to live out the rest of his life as a woman. And we all know that women love their.. oh wait, that would probably be censored by the mods. But it would account for there being more holes in the second and third part of that series...
But arguably one could also say that we should use our imagination to fill in the blanks, because we are ALL in our own real-life version of The Matrix, so whichever reality we prefer, will be the one that completes the story for you as an individual.
Much like all those YouTube videos trying to explain how all these loose ends ought to be tied, yet almost none of them come to the same conclusions, which goes to show that we all interpreted what we saw differently, hence different outcomes made up by all these movie philosophers...
But the Game of Thrones book series was great. George R.R. Martin might be a strange fellow, his imagination translates very well to paper. And he's not afraid to sacrifice his main characters, much like in real life where not all of the heroes would survive, contrary to most adventure movies.
But if you liked these books, and if you're into that genre, then you might also like the books from Raymond E. Feist (look up the sorceror and/or the merchant series) or Margaret Weiss. The latter does most of her work alone, but has also co-written many great fantasy novels together with Tracy Hickman. They both started out writing RPG novels for the Dragonlance label (also pretty damn cool stories in my humble opinion) and after having written quite a few novels for them, they decided to go their own way, and since then they have only gotten better.
@Captain_Gonru Web TV.
Jokes aside, I do agree though. I was actually thinking I'd even get a NX if I could just plug it into my wireless router and play it on all 3 big screen HD TVS in my house. Since MS already has a PC in every home should be easy for them to set up wireless to every TV set. If there is a next Xbox it iwll be XBox X, as in Windows 10. But a $100 Xbox TV Extender that plays PC games on tv is good enough.
@ThanosReXXX The thing I don't like about having 1 game w/ 2 sets of built in settings is how much space it would take up to download to a handheld. I don't want to download a 30GB file to play a game in stereo when 12GB is 7.1 surround sound. 2 games on the cartridge, but you only have to download the one you want.
@rjejr No, you misunderstand: it is ONE AND THE SAME GAME, not two versions. Assets not compatible will not be addressed/used by the portable, so I'd imagine that if it would be an eShop edition, that you would just download a sort of slimmed down version with all the NX home console content ripped out.
It is a bit like installing the same game on two PC's: one is average, the other is powerful. You still install the same game, but only the more powerful PC can take full advantage of the game (or actually the other way around: the game takes full advantage).
Now add to that a more streamlined process of that principle to the console/handheld business (since obviously those aren't PC's) and you could optimize that like I described in the first bit of this comment.
So, the cart might have two sets of sound files and textures, but they will only be on the cart so you could use it in both systems.
The download versions would only contain the correct sets of sounds/graphics for each system. But I can imagine the download version of the home console game being offered in two editions: the slim and the full edition. The slim would be just the high end version and the full edition would be with the portable files included, allowing you to download the game from your console to your handheld.
Hm, I actually think I'm on to something here...
@Captain_Gonru "But why did they need to be interconnected? Aren't you just asking for trouble if you build into your power grid the capacity for your "turbines" to communicate with one another? Why not just give each of them their own version of mundane reality?"
Well, the aliens are also a hyve mind, so that could be one explanation. The other is that to them, we are cattle, and cattle is kept in herds/flocks/whatever.
And they're also batteries, and connected batteries yield more power, so that is also logical. And the Matrix is one program running, so if all people are connected, they only have to maintain/service one virtual reality instead of millions if each individual must have his/her own program.
Well, at least that's my idea on that, but like I said earlier: they left a lot to our own imagination. I believe that the directors never even answered any of the questions concerning these matters in interviews they gave so it is eternally open to debate...
@ThanosReXXX "But I can imagine the download version of the home console game being offered in two editions: the slim and the full edition. "
I don't think you're onto something here, I think you're just coming around to my way of thinking. You don't want to call the 2 different download versions different games, but I think if you are downloading different files it really is different games.
I know you dont like Sony, but whenever I buy a cross buy PS3 and Vita compatible game my PS3 always downloads 2 versions, one for Vita, one for PS3. I know it NEEDS to b/c of the different architectures, but I think that's the most logical way to go. And even if there is only 1 executable file on a disc, if there are 2 sub-folders, 1 in HD, one in SD, I'm still calling that 2 different games, and the executable is simply deciding which "game" to run, HD or SD.
And I know the handheld might be HD, but it's just easier this way. Well that, and I don't think it will be. When they make a Ntineod branded 1 screen tablet it will be HD, 720p HD, but when it gets broken into 2 screen to play games, each "half" will still be less than HD. I dont 'think Nitneod will give up dual screen play. I think 3D is a goner though. That Amazon Fire phone crashed and burned big time so I don't think even a tablet would have 3D. Seems like even 3D phones are on the way out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_3D-enabled_mobile_phones
@Captain_Gonru NX Shop.
Way back when - man how long have we been talking about NX w/o any info? - I thought the NX Home version would be on disc, and you would download from the Home to the Away, which would be a modern day PSPgo, b/c that didn't fail hard enough for Sony. But with all the cartridge talk of late, I think the same cartridge will work in both Home and Away. Saves them on needing a 2TB storage on the Away. Of course people who only buy digital will still need some internal storage - hopefully not overpriced proprietary Vita storage - but if they could still use cartridges they wouldn't need EVERY game on internal storage.
So I knwo exactly what you ar etlaking about, and it still could work that way - saves space on Away if its download only - even fomr WiFi or the Home, but I think Ntineod likes cartridges. And some day they will tell us all about it. Or at least half about it. I've been thinking they dind't want to announce at E3 b/c they feel they need undivided attention to announce NX Home, NX Away and maybe even NX Tablet all at the same time so they can explain how they all work together. Nintnedo needs a tablet, that works w/ the NX Home controller as a NX Away, but also as a tablet. Amazon has a $50 7" and $70 6", they are cheap enough to do a branded one.
NX Away on the left, NX tablet and Home controller on the right.
@rjejr You can call it that, but what it actually is, is one game with two sets of game-related assets, not two complete games. Some assets will be used in the handheld, and some assets will only be used on the console. It really is that simple.
Oh, and I NEVER come around to anyone else's thinking. I'm the original Titan...
But in all seriousness: I must have missed you saying that somewhere then, since I honestly extrapolated that idea from all the NX rumors and mess that is swirling around in my own brain at the moment, so It wasn't based upon someone else's idea.
@rjejr as for the cart(ridge) and storage concept: that is exactly what I already discussed earlier with JaxonH and also mentioned somewhere here in this comments section.
Obviously you would really only need one game cart if they are going with carts and internal storage or added storage can be flash memory and SD (micro) cards respectively, just like we have in the 3DS now.
And that is already reasonably priced, so no need to worry about that, unless Nintendo's got something else planned entirely, but luckily they're not Sony, so they will probably never pull any of those proprietary card/stick shenanigans...
@Captain_Gonru Just finished watching Legends. Pretty sure we won't be watching again next year. They might have had me if somebody said - "Hey we should prepare the world for the alien invasion that Savage was supposed to fight off, now that we killed him." You know, while they spent 30 minutes talking about Therogan alien technology and planet alignments. It's possible nobody knows but Hunter and he never told anybody else, but the audience knows, and the audience thinks preparing the world for alien invasion is more important that "policing the timeline" with Aerosmith lead singer Steven Tyler. Too bad Sara didn't slit his throat. Gideon should have ejected him into the sun and saved herself. And too bad they didn't use the waverider to save the tens of thousands of lives form that nuke. Not to mention the million more who will die from nuclear fallout. Lance maybe shoulda brought that up. Not that he should have had too, somebody may have mentioned it on news, or in the paper, or in a Starbucks - hey, Russian nuke hit 20 miles from DC and killed 30k people.
So 2 shows next season. Works for me.
@Captain_Gonru Well I still haven't seen the season finales of either Flash or Arrow, so I'm not sure how any of it is going to work. I'm still expecting Flash to run back in time and help Felicity prevent the nuke strike, and that head totem to bring Laurel back to life - everybody on that show dies at least once and comes back. You can't ignore a nuke strike, I'm sorry you just can't. 9/11 killed 3,00 people, and 15 years later its still like it happened last year. "tens of thousands", you can't exist anywhere in that timeline w/o it being constantly talked about by everyone in the US. We invaded Iraq over 9/11, we'd nuke the planet after 1 hit here.
Saw the Supergirl commercial w/ Flash asking her if she knew about Arrow et al and she keeps saying "no". Those 2 seem to hit it off, but still no on Supergirl.
I like Barry and Oliver, that's enough.
@Captain_Gonru Well you were close to spoiling things, I could tell something was up, you didn't really say anything, but I got a feeling something was going on.
I usually watch Flash on Tues and Arrow on Wed, but always a week later. And fortunately I wont waste a Thur night on DC this week. For whatever reason Cable vision shows the shows for 5 days at 61 minutes - lots of commercials, then 5 days at 45 minutes - few commercials, mostly for The Originals - then a few weeks at 55 minutes, so I awlasy try to watch the shortest version.
See, I'm not just calendar obsessed when it comes to Ntneod releases dates, my entire life is like that.
Let me guess though, Oliver wakes up, his head in Laurels lap in the hospital bed (over the covers, get out of the gutter), she's fine, the last few weeks have been a dream?
Well whatever happens, I'm glad Hunter returned those kids to their proper time periods. The way he said it I'D SWEAR the writers had forgotten all about them, read their twitter feeds, then said a collective "oh $$$$" and then gave Hunter that completely throw away line while leaving them on the rooftop. It just seemed off, like they filmed it a few days later and then edited it in. I know, I know, I'm an awful human being.
I'll give ya the rest after I watch them both, not point in doing 1 at a time. NO mate rhow bad they are though, Oliver has 1 year left of his 5 eyar island journey, so I will watch next season just to see them wrap that up. And I like Barry, CAitlyn and Sisco enough to keep watching, I just think of it as a comedy, not a drama, so I allow more shark jumping.
@Captain_Gonru "I try to never be more than one episode behind"
We have to do that w/ Game of Thrones, but that's it. We're trying to finish Season 2 of Penny Dreadful before season 3 ends, its about halfway done now, b/c a friend of my wife watches it, but we had to watch the others first. None of my 3 friends watches TV except old reruns and baseball. I did tell her last night never again, I can't do 1 a week, I need to do 3 or 4 at a time. Though, like you said, Hulu is extremely annoying with it's deletions. We like Grimm, every episode of Grimm is free on demand until Oct, so we just watch each full season over the summer when nothing else is on. Who needs to pay for DVR?
I gave up comics back in the 90's when money was tight in grad school. Haven't even considered going back, though I peruse the graphic novel aisle at B&N. If I ever started reading again it would be all back issues. I'm really not good in real time with anything.
time to start dinner, marinated london broil on the grill, yummy
@Captain_Gonru We finished season 5 of Dr Who last night, and I have to say now that all the CW DC shows are over it would be a great introduction for you. I know season 5 sounds like a weird place to start but it's very self contained, new Dr and new companion, and in it's own way it's almost like a shrunken down first 4 seasons. You can get 1 month of Amazon Prime for $7.99 to try it out, so if you have just under 13 hours to spare - 13 45 minute episodes - there ya go.
@Captain_Gonru "Netflix has some of the prior seasons available."
Amazon just signed an exclusive about a month ago w/ the BBC. Netflix may have some of the old episodes from way back when, but nothing since the renewal in 2005. Hulu neither. For about 2 months there was no streaming Dr Who anywhere, all the sci-fi geeks were going nuts like Ntineod fans waiting for Zelda U news.
@Captain_Gonru Netflix probably does have Dr Who on disc, all the seasons have been released on DVD in yearly sets, or semi-yearly. Or is it bi-yearly? Anyway I just assumed you meant Netflix streaming.
Here ya go, sorry for the misunderstanding.
http://dvd.netflix.com/Movie/Doctor-Who/70142441
@Captain_Gonru Hulu and Netflix both had it on streaming at the same time. Then it went away for a month and Amazon paid for an exclusive. Rumours are the BBC is going to get it' sown streaming service in the US but no official word yet.
http://nerdist.com/uh-oh-doctor-who-episodes-wont-be-on-netflix-or-hulu-for-long/
Enjoying the holiday? We did the bbq and parade w/ the family thing, a good day. Now we're washing off the sunscreen and getting ready to start season 6 of Dr Who.
2 more weeks to E3, where maybe I'll find out if I'm buying a PS4 or a PS4k Ultra w/ my copy of FFXV on Sept 30th. And 80k media folk will be asking Reggie about NX. That's reason #1 why they should have showed it, b/c everybody is going to be asking about it anyway. I'm counting the NL E3 NX articles.
@Captain_Gonru I'm planning on watching MadMen after I watch Breaking Bad. One of these days. My library actually has BB on DVD and I was going to borrow it but I decided on Californication instead, I'm a big Ducovny fan. Only 5 more seasons to go. There's always something.
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