The Pokémon Mystery Dungeon franchise is one of the better-known 'mon spin-offs, which had various entries on the DS and most recently Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity on the 3DS; according to Nintendo the sub-series has sold over 13 million copies overall.
The big N and the Pokémon Company International have now announced Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon for the 3DS; it's coming to retail in North America towards the end of this year, though Europeans need to wait until early 2016. As before there'll be randomly generated dungeons, with the press release saying the following.
Players can look forward to even greater, randomly created dungeons that change each time they enter. In Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon, players will battle alongside Legendary and Mythical Pokémon to save the world in a sweeping tale of adventure and mystery.
There are no real details yet, but are you pleased that another entry in this franchise is on the way? Let us know in the comments.
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Hopefully the story will be better than Gates to infinity.
Will buy it when it gets released in Europe.
Gates to Infinity dumbed down both the story and the gameplay.
I sincerely hope that we get a high quality game along the lines of Explorers of Sky.
I always thought 'New' was the new 'Super', not the other way around.
@Snargledon We've come full circle.
Gates to Infinity was awesome - will be getting this when it releases.
@ThomasBW84 So in about 20 year 'New' will be in fashion again, huh?
I swear if this becomes a free to play game.....
"Players can look forward to even greater, randomly created dungeons that change each time they enter." Why do I get the feeling this screams 'pay to play' in my mind?
"Super" doesn't exactly fill me with hope.
I really enjoy the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon series but Gates to Infinity was a bit of a step down. So I'm not sold on this yet.
I'm getting tired of adding "New" or "Super" to the start of all these games. Why can't it be "Fantabulous Pokemon Mystery Dungeon"?
The name really makes it sound like a free-to-play game... after Trozei and now Rumble getting that treatment it was expectable that PMD would get the same. I really like the series, so I'm a bit worried at how "playable" the game would be for free. There will be likely little to no story if that's the case.
@Yosher I swear I have the same feeling. That title.. and how the gameplay is described.. ugh. By the way, I liked Gates to Infinity, I don't really know what the hell people got with it. Yeah I can guess the gameplay and stories weren't as feely and deep as the others, but so what. It's not a bad game.
Please oh please don't use the F2P model, I mean Rumble World did it well but this needs to be a fleshed out title with a complete 720 pokémon roster and detailed invested story and post-game.
Plus a large number of fixes to problems that Gates to Infinity introduced, like not allowing players to take on multiple jobs, or forcing players to leave the dungeon after finishing the job objective, and the slow and impossible to quick-draw text.
The story of gates of infinity was great, I'm worndering about this game.
Well, if it says retail, then I'm guessing no Free to Pay model (However, I expect them to greatly build from the DLC that the last game offered...) and heck if it was FTP, it would be coming out a lot sooner, not the end of the year.
But hey, nice to see that Pokemon Spin off games have not died when it comes to retail (Though give us another Pokemon Ranger! That was a great trilogy!).
After playing Etrian Mystery Dungeon, this game will have to do something special to get my attention. The Pokemon sub-series really has struggled to do anything that sets it apart from each other.
@majinx07 It doesn't. That's literally how all of the Mystery Dungeon games can be described.
Hoping this one has a better story and more charm than Gates to Infinity. Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky is one of my favorite games.
Pokemon MD Gates to Infinity was excellent, so I'm really excited for another entry. I bought the game recently via Amazon and then ended up with another copy after buying some games on craigslist. Anyway, having 2 copies allowed me and my son to use the streetpass feature in the game, so it was really handy (you can share revive seeds with each other to resume even after being defeated). Hope they continue to put in cool features like this (even though that feature was somewhat criticized in the review on NL if I remember correctly).
All I want is the last main series game(s) to be released for this generation. I could care less for spin-offs that don't even help further the story of the main games in any way. A true spin-off should be something that follows a minor character in the same world as the player character. Heck, I'd play a spin off where you play as the Champion and do whatever weird Champion things a Champion does when they're absent from the Pokemon League.
I will be getting this game. Love the Mystery Dungeon series. Would love a new Ranger game though.
@RupeeClock This exactly. But if this were to be a free to play, I think it'd release earlier than 2016 for Europe. I really hope this game turns out good, EoD/EoT were great games, and I'd love all 700+ Pokemon in this.
I own Blue Mystery Dungeon but that's about it, haven't tried the other ones. I sucked at it but it was still pretty fun to play. Never finished it though.
I am not really super excited. Gates to infinity was all right but this one has to do something good to convince me.
It's gonna another free-to-start game, I'm calling it now. Nintendo has been absolutely adamant lately that spin-off Pokemon games MUST be free-to-start, and every eshop release they've advertised since Pokemon Shuffle have pretty much all been free-to-start. Please Nintendo, PLEASE. Don't keep doing this.
@3dsgeek333 Do you even read? Seriously, there have been numerous comments detailing the fact that it will most certainly be a retail title. -_-
Well this was a nice surprise! Never got around to playing GtI so i' really looking forward to this.
I loved Gates to Infinity! I hope they keep the cinematic approach that it introduced.The story was very heart wrenching and had many twists and turns.The suicide cult was especially surprising.The 3D graphics were also much better than the main series inexplicably. Unfortunately I lost my game card and never finished the main story though.
I don't know how you can think it's a free-to-play title if it's retail. Are stores just going to hand out free cartridges?
nooo okay, I really enjoy the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Series, but this pretty much confirms there will be no Pokémon Z this year. If it's set for a Fall 2015 release, that's the same window that new Pokémon games are usually released. Pokémon wouldn't release two games in the same window because one game would overshadow the other (in this case, Pokémon Z). Well, there goes my hope.
@DarthNocturnal - "retail"
Only I've read 5 articles - via a Google search - and can't find "Retail" mentioned in any of them.
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon/
http://www.polygon.com/2015/5/21/8634157/pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon-hits-3ds-in-winter-2015
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150521005329/en/Pok%C3%A9mon-Super-Mystery-Dungeon-Launching-Winter-2015#.VV3shU9Viko
http://www.siliconera.com/2015/05/21/pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon-announced-for-nintendo-3ds/
http://nintendoeverything.com/pokemon-super-mystery-dungeon-announced-coming-to-3ds-winter-2015/
I'll let you search the rest.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Pok%C3%A9mon+Super+Mystery+Dungeon&oq=Pok%C3%A9mon+Super+Mystery+Dungeon&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i61&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
Not saying your wrong, I think it's retail too, this is too long of advance notice for F2P, but I think maybe TW jumped the gun on "retail" here.
Cool but I hope it isn't the big holiday game.
My only complaint in the last one that didn't had ALL THE POKEMON IN. Hopefully this one has All THE Pokémon IN.
@Lugia The main series game would be Holiday 2015. This could easily be released in early October or something.
Nintendo seriously needs to up their name game.
All I want from this is stronger storyline than gates to infinity.
I'm still waiting on the first one to drop in price...which will never happen >_>
Gates to Infinity wasn't strong enough to warrant a full price purchase imo.
This "Super" name rubs me the wrong way. Even if it isn't F2P like other people fear based off that name, the "Super" vibe with no subtitle like all previous PMD games (Red Rescue Team, Explorers of Time, Gates to Infinity, etc) give me off the vibe this game is going to throw story out the window with the game title saying nothing about the story, and try to sell the game almost purely on gameplay... which would be a HUGE thing to take away from PMD, especially if they don't fix the problems from Gates. I hope I'm just being paranoid here.... maybe instead they're naming it Super because they'll put a ton of different story lines in or something.... I hope....
@IceClimbers good point
I guess it's a good sign that Nintendo is comfortable revealing a new project so close to E3.
I really enjoyed Explorers of Sky. It's too bad that the 3DS release had to suck. I can only hope that this one goes back to the previous level of quality.
Would love a game in this series for Wii U.
@BlatantlyHeroic I must have missed those, I was quite tired this morning. I can only hope, however, that Nintendo makes it as good as Explorers of Sky, but the "Super" part of the title doesn't really scream "super" to me...
Considering they've been using the Pokemon spin-offs for F2P games...I have a feeling this'll be yet another Pokemon F2P game...
If it's not:
I really hope it's better than GtI. GtI wasn't bad on its own, but compared to Explorers of Sky...
Hopefully they've experimented enough with GtI. I'm curious to see how this'll turn out.
Not sure why everyone seems to be jumping to the conclusion that it's free to play. They've never announced a free to play this far from release, so to me it seems fairly unlikely. I really do hope that I'm right, as I don't think free to play would work for Mystery Dungeon at all. That being said, I'm hopeful for it(it's one of my favorite spinoffs), and really wishing that they bring back more starters than Gates had, as well as the quiz. I really want to play as Bulbasaur again.
I loved Explorers of Sky a lot. I got to the end boss with Gates to Infinity, but kind of stopped there for some reason. Should finish it someday though. Maybe I'll pick this up, I'm not sure yet.
While the "super" part of the title is concerning, I have some hope for this game. It says the same (or at least similar) things that were said for previous games, and while EoS was the best in the series in my opinion, GtI was still good in some aspects (just not as good by comparison). My one concern is this: "Battle alongside Legendary and Mythical Pokémon... " I hope that doesn't mean a limited roster as was in Gates to Infinity, but we'll see. I also noticed this: "...a crisis in a tale of unprecedented scale." This kind of says that it will be bigger than ever before in some way, so that possibly means the largest roster of pokemon in any Mystery Dungeon game to date. A lot of people are saying that they saw it said "retail" somewhere, but I couldn't find it, though the F2P model is unlikely for this game due to tel he lack of that being stated directly by Nintendo in their announcement, and the traditional story-heavy nature of Mystery Dungeon games, unlike Rumble and Shuffle.
Here's to hoping for a good game!
I thought Gates To Infinity was an okay game, but ChunSoft and GameFreak need to step up their game if they want my money. Red/Blue Rescue Team and the Explorers games were awesome (imo). Gates To Infinity was trash in comparison (imo).
If this is going to be like the first two games, then I'm interested. If it's similar to the third one, then no thanks.
Everyone sayi this will be free to play has clearly never played a PMD game before. They all have this description. Stop being paranoid.
Quietly sits in corner while waiting for Super Pokemon Ranger
Those games are alright let's see if I'm in drought by the time this games rolls around.
I tried getting into the series....but it end up getting too repetitive and boring for me...
I enjoyed the Rescue Team and Explorers games, but GTI dumbed down the gameplay and story too much - when nearly the entire pokedex was featured in the previous two iterations it was inexcusable that GTI only had 150 pokemon.
The comments section is rotting my brain as I read it, since people apparently don't understand what the word 'retail' means.
Well, as long as they have learned from their mistakes made in Gates to Infinity, and goes back to exactly how the older games were like, you have a Day 1 purchase from me.
As long as it's not like the last one, then sure, I'll consider it.
@TruenoGT Pokémon Mystery Mystery Mystery Dungeon? Sounds mysterious.
@Yosher retail F2P... how would that work? I got to best buy or target and they waste shelf space by having a box for a free game that I can just buy for free? erm what?
Also the name is CRAPPY AS HECK WTF NINTENDO!
It better have all the Pokemon, or it gets no dice from me.
@3dsgeek333 Honestly I feel like so long as they balance it with regular spin-offs, the free-to-start Pokemon games are pretty good. Both have been inviting, fun, and never felt like they pressured the player too much to buy.
I wasn't sure we'd get another Mystery Dungeon game, but here we are. Still though, this announcement gives me a bad feeling. Between 6th gen's track record for spinoffs and the generic title I don't think they're putting as much effort into this one as we'd want out of a Mystery Dungeon game, it's probably going to be like GtI but with 6th gen Pokemon.
Wow that statement seriously describes every single mystery dungeon game. I've lost all hope in Pokemon after the trash that was X and Y. I honestly only enjoyed the first mystery dungeon games.
Never played one of this games but I look forward to this and maybe getting this game.
@Pixel-Perfect Not necessarily. Pokemon games are typically shown off independently of the rest of Nintendo's announcement schedule (usually through Japanese media). The announcement doesn't really tell us much about E3.
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All id like to say is if there isnt a main series pokemon game this year then it would be great to have gen 1 and gen 2 gameboy and color games on the 3ds VC as a 'sorry for no main game but here's a classic game to play till we release a new game'. This is a good idea plus the gameboy used ir for games and the 3ds and NEW 3ds have ir so we can use ir to trade. Plus add a feature to send to bank.
This is what every pokemon fan or genwunners and gentwoers would love to see. This is a great was to say sorry and the best idea yet.
I really enjoyed the story in Gates to Infinity, though haven't played the earlier games so I don't know how it compares. Gameplay was a bit dull and repetitive in GTI, so I won't get this unless if they've improved it considereably. I was worried initially that this may be another free to play pokemon game, but thankfully there's talk about a retail release instead.
Also, I'm hoping that they don't dumb down this game. I was more disappointed than I should have been when I found out that Kecleon was impossible to capture in GTI instead of being very very nearly impossible to capture.
@james-mussel
You do know it's not that simple to just add bank functionality to Gen 1 or gen 2 even if they were on 3DS. It would require pretty much remaking the entire games from scratch. Also you know it's possible to get nearly every gen1 pokemon in X and Y right? I would also like to add that Red and Blue never used IR it Gold and Silver that used IR and that was just for mystery gift and that's it no battles or trades just mystery gift. All in all pokemon on the 3DS VC would ultamately be a neutered exprience.
@crimsontadpoles GTI was honestly dumbed down in comparison to the earlier releases (not sure about the Japan-only games that were released on WiiWare though). Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky was fantastic. Great, emotional story that's actually pretty dark.
@Uberchu That's.. a good point. I kinda missed that part. Derp, sorry about that!
About the name; that might just be a placeholder thing.
Lemme' guess. The first level per day's free, but we have to buy hearts to play any more.
@James_mussell98
There's no way to make gen I or II compatible with the newer games without a full-on remake, which we already got. The way Pokemon's stats are setup and calculated is completely different from gen III and above, there are stats in the newer games which are completely different or even non-existent in the old games.
As for no main games, we just got ORAS at the end of last year, and X&Y the year before that, why do we need a new one already? Its only been 6 months. If they release them on the VC is shouldn't be as an apology for not releasing them yearly.
This most likely won't be a day one purchase for me, but I'm interested.
@BaffleBlend Only if you didn't read the article. This is a retail game.
....Welp. I guess it's a better name than New Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.
YES! Hoping it will be a good entry. Now that they have made a 3D engine and all for the Gates to Infinity they should have little problem working on a deeper story.
I still think the reason the previous game was a bit lacking was the transition to 3D, but they have the groundwork already done this time around.
I think 'Gates to Infinity' accurately describes the Mystery Dungeon franchise.
Maybe if it was on Wii U it could be "super"
I hope the story isn't terrible like Gates to Infinity.
Sorry Pokemon acting like realistic humans instead of being blindly trusting and friendly is not a crisis.
And if Ralts line is one of the starters.
I'm in.
Additionally being able to evolve during the main story for once would be nice. Creating facial animations for each starting Pokemon's evolution lines wouldn't be the end of the world. Now with Mega Evolutions putting that into the story would be cool too.
@Arianabtd joins corner
Just make Snap 2 for Wii U...
@Kami2Kami "when it releases"? When it releases what? The kraken? Oh, you meant when it IS releaseD.
Notice how this game has the original 'Mystery Dungeon' logo, not GTI's style. This alone is a reason to be optimistic about it being good.
Meh Dragon quest started this nonsense along with the other "Gauntlet clones"???.
@RegalSin
You mean the "mystery dungeon" games? No, they're not gauntlet clones. Chunsoft created the sub-genre, and they're actually based on the game Rogue. The former is a hack n' slash, the latter is, well, a Rogue-like.
If we're talking RPGs in general, early games such as Wizardry are what inspired Dragon Quest and Ultima, while ones like Gaunlet inspired the likes of Diablo.
I see that "Rouge" started the ball rolling but it wasn't until arcade games similar to Gaunlet did anybody started to really take any interest.
Yes Dragon Quest on the SNES/NES with the Shop/Trader mini-game was the game that popularized the genre throughout the world ( and more importantly kept it popular ) which eventually led to "Chocobo Dungeon" and "Mario Party" as well
That is the thing I am talking about, since Guatlet many Japanese developers have implemented the "enemy-re-generator" stylistic gameplay that is original from Guatlet ( more famously known ). Yes you do mention Diablo, but Diablo is your basic pen and pencil RPG that uses the generators differently. I am talking about your basic "Zelda" type game ( which is also an clone ), where generators are random.
Again I know that Gaunlet is different from the chungsoft game but it pre-dates and inspires the usage of "Rouge" like gameplay.
I really hope this isn't just a re-skin like NSMBU and NSMB2, i'm looking foward to getting this because of how good I heard the story was in the mystery dungeon game with pikachu and riolu.
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