Nintendo's most recent Nintendo Direct broadcasts were an oddity of contradictions - a lot was revealed, but it can easily be argued that there wasn't a great deal of new content. We were excited and delighted by some of the reveals, but conversely shook our heads and felt concern with every release window that was further away than expected. We're in the bizarre position where there are quite a lot of enticing treats coming soon, but not much will actually be in stores.
Large parts of the broadcasts, as is often the case, were therefore preaching to the converted. It emphasizes our point that the big intro and finale both went to existing games - the opening revealed Mewtwo and Lucas details for Super Smash Bros., along with DLC Mii outfits themed around major franchises, before telling us about more additional amiibo waves and a software update that'll allow (among other things) custom stage sharing on Wii U. The Mewtwo news was widely expected, while Lucas and the Mii outfits were surprises, though Satoru Iwata stopped short of giving an update for online Tournies, an update we're certainly keen to see. Overall, though, we were shown how DLC and updates will be an enduring strategy for the brawling titles on Wii U and 3DS, with the Fighter Ballot simply setting the tone.
Then Mario Kart 8 closed proceedings, again with multiple details. With the Wii U's release slate in April being bare it seems particularly smart to have brought the second DLC pack forward, due in just a few weeks on 23rd April and bringing with it eight new tracks. The addition of 200cc - for free - further fleshes the game out, too, with the borderline unsustainable speed on offer promising a fun new flavour to those tracks we've bombed around on hundreds of occasions. Aesthetic extras such as addition amiibo Mii outfits are minor on the surface, but all add to a fairly generous dose of an update.
Both of those reveals typified a Direct focused - in terms of arrivals we can look forward to soon - on smaller releases, quirky new ideas or updates to current favourites. Take examples such as amiibo Tap, limited to amiibo owners and with peculiar three minutes 'scenes' / demos of retro games, to 'available now' eShop games - let's not dwell on more potentially iffy microtransactions in Pokemon Rumble World for now...
Then there's retro games. Nintendo knows how to tap into our nostalgia, even when logic tells us we should know better. It's exciting to have Nintendo 64 games on the Wii U, along with DS games - which we say should still be on 3DS instead, but let's move on - with the usual bells and whistles: scanned manuals and control options bring that sense of quality. It's great, but what are we celebrating? The option for slightly newer downloads of games we've been able to access on Wii U or through 3DS backwards compatibility all along? We're not trying to be buzzkills, but let's just be real about it; upgrade discounts considered, it should be a fairly minor announcement. That's not how it works for us as fans, though.
Splatoon's 29th May release date was largely expected, though it impressed with details on more modes and its own amiibo range, but it also served to highlight a relative draught in major triple A arrivals. Mario Maker is now expected in September, which is a good while away, while Yoshi's Woolly World is down for 'Fall' in North America (26th June in Europe, somewhat amazingly), and that's not mentioning a range of Wii U games not featured at all. We weren't exactly enlightened on the 3DS front, either, with the exception of Attack on Titan: Humanity in Chains finally getting localised to the eShop in May; we're not sure what to make of Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer and its amiibo cards, though it seems to be a vehicle to promote NFC on the New Nintendo 3DS and via the portal for original models this Fall.
There were a number of titles coming later this year or in 2016, some much anticipated - say hi, Fatal Frame and Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem - which brings us to those contradictory feelings we mentioned right at the top. There was good content, but part of our initial reaction was "oh no, delays, not enough major retail releases coming soon". That's region dependant, too - there's been a drought this year (particularly on Wii U) in PAL regions, though games already out in North America will flood in over the next couple of months, including Yoshi's Woolly World. After steady releases so far North America now has a bit of a worrying gap, however, which we're not sure will now be filled, especially as we're so close to E3.
Laugh or cry, cheer or slow clap? Hard to decide, maybe it depends on the country you live in.
Overall, though, our inclination is to be positive about what Nintendo brought us. On the one hand the Direct will have done very little to sell hardware, catering as it does to existing fans with Virtual Console, DLC, game updates and a small smattering of enticing retail releases. Yet the argument can be made that Nintendo Directs really are for dedicated fans, with on-the-fence or less dedicated consumers unlikely to even tune in. It makes sense to play to your audience, and it's impressive that Nintendo can go so far with DLC and software updates opening and closing the show.
We do feel Nintendo's played its cards smartly, covering over some issues - major projects still being a while off - by giving us easy wins. There's criticism to be made of that on a business and analysis level, but for fans there were a lot of great details. Like any Direct it wasn't perfect, but it had lots of treats for those already invested in gaming with Nintendo.
It excited this writer anyway, with a special mention for the obligatory eShop sizzle reel in the North American broadcast. Oh, and amiibo made of yarn. Nintendo had us the moment they came up on screen.
Let us know what you thought of this week's Nintendo Direct in the poll and comments below.
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It was brilliant. Enough said.
Kinda disappointed there was no talk about DeNA at all. But other than that it was a good Direct.
All I enjoyed from the direct was the smash DLC, Attack on Titan game, some of the indie games and maybe something else that I'm forgetting.
I really didn't like the fact of more amiibo stuff and more freemium game stuff, at least they talked about the amiibo cards and I hope every amiibo becomes a card, just hope they are mass produced, no exclusives, work on every game like the figures, cheaper.
The direct was really great, plus now I have an actual reason to get excited for my birthday since Splatoon releases on that day.
I still want to know what exactly the Splatoon amiibo stuff is going to do. (If the extra weapons are the best for online it is enough for me to skip the game).
Smash Bros they are turning into another SFxTekken with its pointless DLC.
I appreciate all of the DLC, but the Wii U always gets delays. Half of the games from E3 2014 will be at E3 2015 again.
The E shop sizzle reel looked great, attack on Titan looked great and I'm going to be a day one buyer for Fatal Frame. This was a good appetizer for E3, but E3 better have a huge reveal, otherwise the Zelda Delay may have been the final blow for the Wii U making it impossible to impact the market share
And this is err, um, good? Its all filler for that inevitable moment.
I wanted XCX news, even though we have plenty already. I wanted release date info, who am i kidding. And when Fatal Frame was announced, i honestly thought it was Metroid related because of how the screen was shaking with sci-fi vibes (stupid me.)
It was ok...only things that interested me were Smash stuff, Mario Maker's release date still sucks. Dunno about Splatoon Amiibos yet, still getting the game, though.
Not the best slew of information, but there were a lot of things I was very happy to hear about.
If we get King K. Rool in Smash I could care less about whatever Nintendo does from then on out (hyperbole).
I found this Nintendo direct very disappointing
I'm not excited for VC N64 games on Wii U, they're probably going to look terrible on an HDTV. VC DS games should be on 3DS not Wii U. Other than that just a bunch of DLC and a couple of freaky looken anime games.
Plus no Starfox, Metroid, or Earthbound 2.
@Meaty-cheeky Agreed.
Nintendo has me hooked on amiibo. im spending my lunch break right now refreshing gamestop's website. (there was a line out the door at my local store...I do work for a living)
I liked the new vc, but I hope that the games for the current VC will increase.
I'm set for rpgs for a little while with both of the FE games being hot titles for me. The smash info was pretty cool and I'm excited about the new racing suits for Kart.
The indie reel had a few titles I'll be putting on my wish list.
I pretty much enjoy it as always, well almost. The only 2 downers for me is the no news on the New 3ds (standard) and the NFC adapter being released in fall. Getting harder and harder to fight the urge to buy the XL model. I am dying to use my Marth and Ike in Codename STEAM and other stuff.
So this is how the people who have expectation with every direct feels. At least the realistic ones.
I loved it, I'm currently playing multiple games, I've loads I'm looking forward to, I enjoyed the whole thing. I've actually never played SM64, will you lovely lovely people be reviewing it again on Wii U VC, @ThomasBW84?
There should be an option that it exceeded my expectations, it was outstanding!
@Meaty-cheeky but E3 my friend, really it's just around the corner, surely they're saving stuff like that for June?
Not the best but not the worst.
I was happy with what was shown but a little disappointed about what was not shown.
I think something big will come out around November/December but Nintendo is keeping whatever game it is a secrete until E3. I mean think about it, Nintendo has moved to a E3 Direct instead of the typical huge press conference. If they showed everything now, in April, what would they reveal in June? Sure they'll go into more details about Mario Maker, Yoshi, Xenoblade Chronicles, & Fire Emblem at E3 again, but they'll announce something big and unannounced, and it will come out in time for the Holiday Season.
Nintendo had to do a direct, even if they didn't have anything to show—and they did have stuff for us. Simply put, the conversation was getting out of their control, between game delays, product shortages, and DeNA speculation. They had to own the message again and get expectations reset. In that sense it was successful. Not enthralling, though.
A near perfect Direct, would've liked at least a few more MK8 tracks revealed but the earlier release date and 200cc was a huge surprise and more than makes up for it. The only thing that could be considered a disappointment is how SMTxFE turned out, while I haven't played a Persona game it definitely looks like one.
It was the epitome of "meh."
Nintendo is no longer trying to reach anyone but their core audience, as I think they recognize that they no longer have the ability to do so.
The Directs continue to get worse as time wears on and the Wii U and 3DS continue to slip into irrelevance. Both systems are plagued with droughts of new releases, and here's what we're met with:
Yay: Fatal Frame finally getting a Western release. But with no set date other than "later."
Yay: SMTxFE is still alive.
Boo: It seems pretty far removed from the SMTIV and FE:Awakening grittiness and style that was originally teased.
Further boo: Won't get it until 2016.
Yay?: More Amiibo release dates.
Groan: Still doing a terrible job keeping adequate stock of current Amiibos.
Boo: Loads of retailer-exclusive Amiibos, which wouldn't be a problem if they were willing to make enough of them.
Boo: No new game announcements.
Boo: All "new" announcements are for DLC.
Boo: Amiibos increasingly being used to unlock "on-disk DLC." So Nintendo is locking away more and more game content, on the disk, behind a paywall, which requires consumers to purchase figures that are routinely impossible to find.
Yay: Splatoon release date.
Groan: Content locked behind amiibos.
Groan: Amiibos will likely be nearly impossible to find.
Boo: Announcement of more competitive game modes, but still no voice chat to make these competitive additions truly valuable.
Yay: A decent number of indie games.
Boo: Most of them already released on other platforms.
Boo: Too many games still do not have release dates.
Groan: Amiibo-card-centric Animal Crossing mini-game.
Groan: Worst-reviewed Pokemon game ever getting 3DS version. Hoo-ray.
Boo: No effort being made to get 3rd parties back on board.
Boo: No effort made to appeal to consumers outside of a small core Nintendo audience.
Yay?: Cool Yarn Yoshi Amiibos.
Boo: See every other complaint about how Nintendo never makes enough of these for retail.
Yay: N64 VC finally active on Wii U.
Boo: Should've been there ages ago.
Extra boo: Lazy starting games. No surprises.
Groan: Unnecessary DS VC games for Wii U. The GameCube makes infinitely more sense, or at the very least, this should be on the 3DS.
Yay: DLC characters a real possibility for Smash Bros.
Boo, just Boo! They're making people PAY for Lucas. A clone character who should've just been in the damn game from the start.
Groan: Polling for "new characters" easily to be spammed and made pointless by fans.
Overall, it was really unimpressive. It peaked with the Fatal Frame announcement, and promptly fell flat right after that. Some decent indies shown. What the hell happened to SMTxFE? It looks like an insane J-pop anime carnival. Everything else was fodder for fanboys, and doesn't address Nintendo's biggest problems or issues. They are not going to reach new audiences or sell consoles with what they showed.
2015 is awash in lengthy retail droughts--yet again. For a console on it's third year, this is absurdly unacceptable. Nintendo fanboys will be happy. Regular gamers who want to feel like the Wii U has value will see little here in that vein.
Mario Kart DLC. Okay. Whatever. XCX, Devil's Third, Project Treasure, StarFox? Nothing? Fire Emblem for the 3DS looks good. But all I see is another year of unwarranted droughts and extraneous delays.
Nintendo is clearly transitioning to a desperation level--maintain the already-converted and keep them spending money until the mobile games and NX are ready to take over. They know they aren't selling to anyone new. They said as much by not packing a charger with the New 3DS. With the ill-timed death of Club Nintendo (and no replacement ready) and the unbelievable droughts for major releases, the Wii U is flagging badly, and there is little incentive for fence sitters or regular gamers to buy it.
At least some Nintendo fans are happy. Nintendo clearly wants you to keep spending money on toys and DLC. They clearly have no interest in actually saving or reviving the Wii U in other regards. This basically reiterated my feelings on the console--Nintendo is prepping it for replacement. They will put out previously known, predictable games, but new game announcements are going to continue to dry up as resources are reallocated to get the most out of the NX platform, whatever it turns out to be. The way they're holding off on the releases of major retail games gives an overwhelming feeling of "this is it for Wii U," as if they're deliberately slowing down releases and spreading them out in order to give the impression of stability for a console that really has very little going for it. Man, I hope that's not the case--but at the same time, I'd prefer they replace it sooner than later and get it over with.
I guess I don't have the rose-colored glasses anymore. This feels like the final years of the Wii and GameCube and N64 already. Slow down and spread out the releases of games already in development until the console can be replaced. Man, it feels exactly like that.
At least there's Fatal Frame.
I liked it from the moment FExSMT was previewed. Not everything beyond that point was of my interest, but things such as Fatal Frame and AoT getting to Europe, and especially the new info on the next Fire Emblem title, were all highlights.
Could have been better, but I rarely have an example of a Direct when I can say I was excited about 4 or 5 things. The fifth being the Fighter Ballot for Smash, but I'm skeptical as to how that'll actually work - and also feel a tad bad for Sakurai.
Thanks again TW for once again writing a coherent representation of my inane ramblings over the past 22 hours.
DLC doesn't appear on store shelves.
Splatoon in May then Wii walk away until September and MM (in the US)
$300 Wii U + $60 Splatoon + $35 amiibo package = $395 hard sell for summer
I wasnt expecting Starfox or Xenoblade, we'll get those at E3 for - hopefully - fall releases, but it will be a long 2 months until Splatoon and E3, and an even longer 3 months after that.
Why should anyone buy a Wii U over the next 5 months, unless they really like svouring eBay for amiibo?
Yarn Yoshi amiibo sure are cute though, would have made great Esster basket stuffers or Mothers Day gifts even. Halloween and Thanksgiving not so much.
Loved the N64 VC games breaking onto the Wii U, also liked that a new title was introduced DK64. I'm hoping this isn't the last N64 VC title we'll see that isn't already on the Wii shop.
Mario Party 3 is ripe for a VC release given that Mario Party 2 was already done on the Wii VC.
Paper Mario 64 is confirmed aswell, finished that game recently on the Wii VC but I'll still upgrade, the game is just that awesome. I want my friends to see this awesome game and not have it hidden away in Wii mode.
200cc on MK8 was a shocking surprise but welcome with me. Loved the Animal Crossing MK8 track footage. Partner liked the sound of the new Animal Crossing 3DS title using NFC reader when I told her about it.
Splatoon and Yoshi Woolly World are looking better and better by the day. Wondering if my Super Mario wave Yoshi amiibo will even be remotely usable in Woolly World now with those new Yarn amiibos.
The amiibo features in Splatoon don't really interest me but the gameplay looks awesome nonetheless.
DS VC games are good although I'm not happy with the lack of Lefty support again. Did it in Pikmin 3 and yet again there is not a left friendly option on screen settings. Strong first 2 titles in Europe there, Mario Kart DS I had a hankering to play recently and the classic Warioware touched, still have the DS cart for that but got it free anyway from the promotion.
I suppose there will be the new Wii U game reveals at E3, there's not much point giving too much away at this point.
@Quorthon I am surprised you didn't like it, you're normally so much more positive
@KodyDawg
You're still going to have to buy most DS games in the bizarre way you noted (never got a broken or glitchy one used, maybe I shop at better places) as the games to the VC will be almost entirely select high-sellers from Nintendo themselves.
That is, of course, assuming you want more than just a few Nintendo games. I bet Contra 4 won't be one of those games, and that was the title that got me to buy a DS. So I'll stick with that one.
@Flopsy86 There is lefty support, those screen options which have "Right-Handed" can be switched to "Left-Handed" by pressing up on the analog stick or dpad.
I saw the pictures of the Smash Bros costume DLC and thought that that looks like something I could just unlock with the respected Amiibo not something I have to pay for.
@rjejr
Totally agree with your post. This is why I don't think Nintendo is trying to reach new audiences anymore, and why the Wii U now mirrors the last two years of the Wii, GameCube, and N64.
Nintendo is slowing down development of Wii U titles and I would not be surprised if we already know about almost every major title for the console for the rest of it's life. We still need to see what Retro is doing, but the way games have been delayed and spread out, it feels like they have little else to offer, and are just trying to keep pre-converted fans occupied until the mobile and/or NX platforms can take off.
Suffice to say, almost every Wii U game has taken 2~4 years to develop, and unless they have something already deep into development, they aren't going to be starting anymore major Wii U titles now. I would not be surprised at all if they have already stopped beginning or planning "AAA" level products for the Wii U in order to plan them for the NX instead.
It was good for a majority of the audience but I didn't find it that great. I'm not really into FE, SMT, Puzzles and Dragons, Fatal Frame, or Attack on Titan. I'm probably in the minority though. I mostly enjoy classic Nintendo characters and on that front it was somewhat disappointing. Sure Mario Kart and SSB are getting updaes this month but there isn't anything fantastic coming to NA between June and September.
On the brighter side I can't wait to play all of the new DLC for Mario Kart and SSB. Splatoon should be a great game and I can't wait to get the amiibo when they come out (if I can find them).
Seems Xenoblade Chronicles X won't make it to the West anytime soon. Cosidering the amount of text in a RPG and that it has to be dubbed, it's not surprising. Good to know that Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem and Fatal Frame are still in. Mario Maker to be released when SMB turns thirty, I expected it. Nothing on Zelda, Star Fox and others. Hmm. Hope they're hard at work. Two months 'til E3...
On a personal level, I'm liking Splatoon more each month that passes, BOXBOY! looks nice, and the fact that DK64 has been chosen as one of the first games to be on the N64 VC put a big smile on my face. I own the original cartridge, and It's not quite as good as Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie; but those two will never be back to a Nintendo console so it's the next best thing. It's good to know that people around the world will be able to hear DK saying "OKAY!" on their WII U consoles each time they start the game. (Also, now all of Rare's DK-related platform games are available to download in some form; and Country Returns and Tropical Freeze can also be downloaded to the Wii U. MUCH appreciated.).
I'm wondering how many I must kill to get a splatoon amiibo set.
@Ootfan98 lol
I love the new Yarn Yoshi amiibo. I'm pre-ordering one as soon as I can!
I thought it was good, not great. Finally adding N64 games was nice. Word on Smash and MK8 DLC, while not new, was very welcome. And finally getting sone real info on the two upcoming Fire Emblem games was probably my favorite part of the direct.
I am very disappointed Yoshi isn't releasing in June in NA. That means that after Splatoon, NA literally has nothing coming on WiiU at retail for several months.
And then there was the stuff we didn't see. Club Nintendo's replacement? Star Fox? Project Guard/Giant Robot? A release month for Xenoblade X? Are there any 3DS games coming out in the second half of the year?
There just seemed to be some stuff missing that causes concern for me.
@rjejr
Mothers Day gifts even? really.
Aren't you like drawing social security already and you would buy your mother a yarn Yoshi amibo?
I think this was mostly for the loyal to lift up their expectations. I have a feeling that June (E3) will be targeted for the masses, and something left out in that giant summer window will appear. Otherwise there are too many games crammed into the Oct-Dec space for Nintendo.
For one, E3 will have to have something about DeNA and the new loyalty program. We also still have heard little to nothing about Retro's mystery project. I have a feeling that Yarn Yoshi will become a late summer (Aug-Sept) release rather than a Fall unless there is a Amiibo production issue for the Yarn Yoshi.
I like the dlc for the most part but in the end all it is is filler to keep current owners occupied.
@Quorthon - When I started typing that, 1 finger at a time on my tablet, your post wasn't up yet, and my tablet doesn't auto refresh, so I only saw your post after I hit reply.
After I read your post I realized I didn't really add anything new, you had already said it all, but I left it up anyway.
The only boo I would disagree w/ is no new games as Pokemon Rumble World was only hinted at as a registration so it could have been a tv show or breakfadt cereal, 3DS, Wii U or DeNA app game, so news of it as a 3DS game was a new game announcement. And Nintendo would probably say "amiibo Bits" is a game. Id beg to differ, its a collection of demos, but Im sure Nintendo could srgue dome technicality about it still meeting the definition of a technicslly new game, and Id let them have it since they had PRW in there as well.
And I wasn't expecting anything new anyway, they said as much beforehand that this was about spring and summer, so I figured they'd save new for E3. But they might as well take stock off the shelves until May 29, put out some Splatoon bundles, and cross their fingers, b/c the system aint selling before then. I think some companies announce price cuts before E3, they should around mid May. They gotta do something.
@Meaty-cheeky E3 is less than 3 months away, why in their right mind would they announce a new game or show us Starfox? And why does the 3ds need DS VC, just go and buy a DS game and stick it in the cartridge slot!
@Zergling - I probably wouldnt, no, but I do think the color scheme works better for spring, and I bet somebody would buy their mom 1 for Mothers Day. If they could afgord the eBay prices. Probably the SkylandrrBoyandGirl (They're a big gamer family on Youtube.) But my mom is both very young and young at heart, she'd probably love one. Who wouldn't?
There's a lot of cool stuff there that I think will make Nintendo a lot of money from its loyal fans.
I'm really happy about Lucas,Attack On Titan,Octodad,the Splatoon amiibos,the new Virtual Console titles,Mario Kart 8's 200cc and second DLC pack.The things I didn't like where Mewtwo, the yarn amiibos,amiibo tap and the microtransations in Pokèmon Rumble.
@KodyDawg
Your dismissal of everything that likely won't make it as "pretty much all shovelware" is incredible. It's both monstrously unfair and borderline ignorant of what was actually on the DS.
Going by what we have now, at most, the DS VC games will be almost entirely 1st and 2nd party Nintendo games. Maybe some Capcom (most likely Mega Man), and possibly some Castlevania games from Konami. Outside of that, you'll be missing an incredible library that included numerous Final Fantasy games, the first three Etrian Odyssey games, Contra 4, Henry Hatsworth, Age of Empires, Bangai-O, Aliens, Chrono Trigger, GTA: Chinatown Wars, Call of Duty, Ys, Legend of Kage, Lock's Quest, Metal Slug, Meteos, Might and Magic, Monster Tale, Nanostray, Ninja Gaiden, Ninjatown, Okamiden, Orcs and Elves, Radiant Historia, Puzzle Quest, Retro Game Challenge, Scribblenauts, numerous SMT games, Space Invaders Extreme, Viewtiful Joe, Ghost Trick, etc.
If you're going to be so dismissive as to throw the "most of it is shovelware" comment, you reduce literally every console to sub-par "crap" status. The DS was filled with amazing games. And the vast majority of them will not see release on this VC.
The DS games shouldn't be on the 3DS instead of Wii U but should in fact be on BOTH the 3DS and the Wi U imo; ideally as cross buy too. In fact, basically all the current supported VC console platforms and titles should really be available on and across both consoles as far as I'm concerned.
Maybe this is something Nintendo will finally nail properly with NX and whatever other plans it has with it's new "multi-device online membership service" going forward...
@rjejr
I didn't consider Pokemon Rumble for the 3DS a new game as much as some kind of upgrade of the Wii U game. But fair enough.
The Virtual Console news was very welcome. While I could already play Mario 64 in Wii mode, this is always preferred, as I can now use the Pro Controller, post screenshots, and configure button options. I'm genuinely pumped to see the lineup grow.
The new suits in Mario Kart 8 and Smash genuinely seemed cool to me. In MK, I love racing in a StarFox suit, so this is a cool addition for geeky dudes like me. The DLC info was promising.
But, yes, as you correctly state, big retail releases are so far few and far between, with StarFox U (or whatever it gets called) being the only big title I have to own this year. And that's just brand loyalty.
The DS on VC is a puzzler. The 3DS REALLY could have used the Virtual Console support here, as Nintendo is keen to abandon that most weeks.
I would be very disappointed if E3 wasn't just around the corner.
Got the release date for Splatoon confirmed the game was announced last year and we get it this year so I am happy there is no delay.
I know they are saving Star Fox for E3 thats what i really wanted to see...
I would have preferred gamecube games than N64, sadly N64 games just look horrible by todays standards.. oh well
@bizcuthammer I know what you mean I will give them until E3 to impress me otherwise major disappointment from June until Starfox launches hopefully this year... I am looking forward to MarioMaker but that is not enough games between June and December
@Quorthon I would insist on adding Infinite Space to that list.
@Monado_III the VC I'd like on the 3DS is GBA and SNES.
@rjejr you are right on all points.
It will be a hard sell they should really consider revising the WII U price... It's time
Off-topic: why is this website swimming in ads that comes out of nowhere.
On-topic: This Direct really surprised me in many ways, from Smash Bros. Fighter Ballot to 200cc Mario Kart 8,. Good job, Nintendo.
@Quorthon I am disappointed about paying for both downloadable smash characters which we have had before...
thats about it from everything you said
If you didn't at least enjoy it, you were probably expecting too much. After all, we knew not to expect any huge announcements or surprise game reveals at this time, especially with E3 right around the corner.
It was a okay show for me. I'm not much into what they showed, some new amiibo was good, hopefully I can find them when released.
Pros: DK 64 with rumble support, Lucas and costumes OMG the costumes. And a smash ballot. Fatal frame, f2p pokemon, 200cc, amiibo helmets, speed up turns in steam, something about smtxfe
Cons: no collectable badge center, devils third and Star fox. The path u choose is a difficulty selector in next fe, wtf. No pikachu helmet in Mario kart.
Heh, an 8/10.
Decent showing, but there are some markedly worrying gaps in the release schedule. DLC and retro games are fine to fill small gaps, but they better have some big E3 announcements coming. 3DS is particularly lacking in the release department for the second half of the year.
I was honestly bored for the majority of the Direct.
Most of the stuff didn't interest me, and all I really wanted to see was some Star Fox footage.
I'm a bit worried at this point about SF; we don't have screenshots or even a title logo yet.
I'm happy with what i saw, finally some SMT x FE. all this info means E3 should be plenty of new stuff, which is great!!!
What they offer is better than nothing.
I really expected some information about Nintendo's new rewards/ membership program which will replace Club Nintendo. (If there will be one at all)
I think it was okay, since I didn't expect much.
Pro's: Some release-dates, DLC dates, fighting ballot and DK64
Con's: No release-date for Xenoblade X, no Starfox, no 3DS holiday hard-hitter (new 3DS Zelda or Mario and Luigi), Fire emblem could have been the 3DS hard-hitter but shoved to 2016, all the Amiibo/Amiibo cards and free-to-play nonsense.
Either way, this didn't give me the feeling they go all out on the Wii u. And all the Amiibo/Amiibo cards stuff, its all sooo gimicky. Its highly expensive for the consumers, and has nothing to do with epic gameplay. Its heartbreaking to see Nintendo use those tactics. I rather would like to see a new Metroid!
For me, it was all about that Mario Kart 8/ Smash 4 DLC and Splatoon. It was also interesting to hear that amiibo will have a random game demo tied to them. It's got me real curious as to what my Link amiibo has!
I did find it disappointing that there was no news about Xenoblade X or Starfox though. I thought for sure that they'd be featured...
I liked this Direct a lot more than the last ones. Glad to see so many new amiibo, the update for STEAM, localization for FF and info on Shin Emblem.
I would have loved to see new games but E3 is just a couple of months away. And I hope amiibo are plentiful now. Will also be getting DK64 on day 1.
@Henmii amiibo makes Nintendo boatloads so its here to stay in every direct for the near future. Personally I think the amiibo card idea at least was essential to the gameplay. Mind you designing a house was my least favorite part of animal crossing, but the card idea is a cheaper option and seems better for being integral to actual gameplay.
@sinalefa haha! Look at the GameStop disaster today and you will see that amiibo are not plentiful. Wario and Ness were apparently gone in an instant.
@Monado_III
just a simple screen shoot of Starfox Wii U would have been good enough for me. Nintendo DS games are becoming rare by the day, so that's becoming less of an option for most people, but have fun playing over pixelated and stretched out DS games on your Wii U.
The only way to be better is announce SMTXFire Emblem and Fire Emblem IF release date to April's 2!
The January direct was nothing compared to this awesome sauce.
@Henmii Thats just for the west. Here in Japan FE if is coming out in just two months.
@smashy-link There will be a separate Xenoblade direct later this month.
I hope they announce more retail games at E3, not just a bunch of indie titles. If they are really wanting to showcase the Wii U, they need to show off some retail games that will get people excited about the system...I have a NEW 3DS and apart from Xenoblade, I still don't get why?
I think they did just about enough to keep the diehard fans happy or at least content till e3,really at this point is there much else they can do?.dk64 was a nice surprise and to be fair they could have easily not mentioned smt x fe till e3 so I'll give them some credit for that.
@Quorthon
I really couldn't have said it any better myself. The whole direct really struck me as Nintendo desperately trying to come up with stuff to get people excited. I mean, why focus on Streetpass mini games for more than 10 seconds? Why show yet another trailer for Xenoblade 3DS? Box Boy looks like the kind of game that should have been shoved into the eShop sizzle reel. All of it just stunk of "keep playing these games because chances are we won't be giving you many more".
The fact that we didn't even hear about StarFox, Xenoblade, or the Club Nintendo replacement tells me they're saving them for extra padding during their E3 presentation so they can keep any new reveals to a minimum.
And there's far too many amiibo now. It made sense for Smash and Super Mario, 2 of the biggest franchises that encompasses most of Nintendo's IP. But Splatoon amiibo? An unproven game that may very well suffer the "it's not mario or zelda so nintendo fans won't buy it" curse. Why would they make amiibos for that? Why not a wave 2 of Super Mario? And they clearly aren't going to address the amiibo shortages which I think is the saddest thing of all. If I knew I could walk into a store casually and buy them, I wouldn't mind this overload of amiibo. But knowing they're all going to be extremely rare save for 1 or 2 just turns me off to them entirely.
Is there any Direct that really is a "slam dunk"? Most of the major announcements people are expecting usually come at E3 (I facepalm every time I see people in the comments looking for a Pokemon or Mario game), we rarely get major game announcements in a Direct. This one was decent, they told us everything they needed to and threw in a few surprises, but there wasn't anything amazing as usual. Most of the hype should be directed at E3.
@Captain_Gonru: Spot on. After absorbing the Direct over a day, I realized they literally presented nothing we didn't know. I actually wanted Mario 64, but I refuse to give these fools my money anymore. And it is a slap, a hard one at that not even mentioning the Club Nintendo replacement. Unless their E3 is monumental, which I guarantee it won't be, whatever their next console is, they'll be lucky to retain half of the Wii U audience.
I was very happy with this direct, and at times, surprised.
I'm excited to FINALLY have a release date for Splatoon! The sneak peek at the MK8 AC DLC, was delightful to see (I'm a little nervous about trying the 200cc though). I'm interested to learn more about the AC spinoff as well (honestly, I didn't see that coming). More info about the new FE game, was super exciting for me! Plus BOXBOY! has piqued my interest immensely! I haven't had this much excitement from a direct in quite awhile!
@Quorthon
Wow dude, your long post reads like a script of every negative, anti-Nintendo talking point.
I kind of question why people like you even stick around a Nintendo related site...you seem to be unhappy and cynical regarding their every product and decision.
My advice would be to sell your Nintendo products (if you even have any) and try a different gaming platform for the time being.
I get that there is plenty of room for criticism of Nintendo, but when a person seems to have reason and inclination to trash every little thing they do as predictably as Tuesday following Monday...it may be time to move on and find a healthier pursuit that doesn't leave you mired in constant disappointment.
Stalling tactics ? Really ?
I mean, the Mario Kart DLC basically doubled the content of that game for not even half the price.
If thats a stalling tactic, please carry on with that.
Nevertheless, im more then pleased with what i saw and what i got.
I have no reason to complain.
@Achoo - Never underestimate the rapid response of paid astroturf trolls and hardcore Sony/MS fanboys...
It's funny....for how irrelevant and doomed they tell us Nintendo always is, the big N sure seems to draw a lot of attention and take up a large amount of time and energy from these doom-sayers and haters.
@Quorthon are you constantly on your period man? All you do is complain, on a Nintendo fan site at that. I could understand if this was IGN and you complained this much, but, why waste your time with all that negativity? Your energy would be better spent flollowing and playing the games you actually like. I don't get it at all, if something g I liked turned this sour for me I'd just STOP doing it.
A brilliant Direct. My only disappointments were Mario Maker's release window and lack of Splatoon demo(yeah, that was never gonna happen, anyway) and SSB4 tourney details, as well as Miiverse stages.
@rjejr you failed at your post because you didn't @Quorthon any of your words (i.e. The act of bolding some of your words for emphasis in the NLife comments section) EDIT: by the way Quorthon that's not a knock on you, I'm just verbing you like I have rjejr. Think of it as a sign of respect.
I always felt like Nintendo Directs were for Nintendo fans anyways. I personally went in looking for amiibo news and updates on games we already knew was releasing. So I got what I was looking for pretty much. Though Fatal Frame was a pleasant surprise. With E3 around the corner, I suspect that's when we'll hear some news on whatever they have been working on that we likely don't know about yet. I'm not expecting a truckload of news, but I gather we'll hear enough to get Nintendo through at least 2016. I think it's safe to say at this point, we shouldn't even really expect to hear much about 3rd party releases, unless we're (doubtfully) surprised at E3.
@rjejr I agree with the Yoshi amiibo being perfect for Easter/Mother's Day. Also concerning Splatoon. Big opportunity missed to announce a Splatoon bundle. It didn't have to be the Pollock flavor that you mentioned, but they could have bundled the system, game and amiibo for an attractive price.
But nah... That's too easy for Nintendo.
Live long and Nintendo! A blessed Holy Week and Easter for those who celebrate! For those who don't have a great rest of your week and weekend!
The new Persona (SMTxFE) for WiiU made my day, so excited about this game.
Oh, and the Smash DLC.... Seriously? Those costumes are rather... silly. I'd be mad if Lucas was paid DLC...
EDIT: Hmm.. I don't really see how Lucas won't be paid DLC... X(
@Sir_JBizzle - I'm already known as the guy who over uses emojis (I think it was you who told me that tongue one, made good use of it today), I'll let Q have his boldfacetype.
They'll announce the Splatoon bundle at E3, 3 weeks after the game releases, on store shelves in time for Christmas. (Don't mind me, I'm still sore they announced the Windwaker HD bundle along w/ the price cut about a week after I bought my Wii U.)
@Operative my mind is pretty much melting at all the amiibo news, paticularly since the supply chain is abhorrent. I love the thrill of collecting them all, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit overwhelmed. I wish they had just finished the Smash line first... But on the other hand, I'm sure they don't expect people to collect them all and the super casual will generally find what they are looking for (i.e. the Nintendo mainstays of Mario and Zelda though I'm quite surprised by Pokémon exclusive amiibo)
I disagree about Splatoon though. If they are really serious about making a big marketing push for the game, it makes sense to have an amiibo line to push along with it.
That's the @rjejr I know. Haha. That actually does sound more in line of what Nintendo would do. A Christmas bundle would probably work better for holiday sales anyways, provided the game is a hit.
I'm going to make a crazy speculation now: Mario Maker amiibo - pixilated versions of Mario characters.
Awesome Direct. Top grade news, bar none.
Any time it's 2 months before E3 and we get SMT x Fire Emblem revealed (a game which, before the Direct, most would have argued was vaporware) AND Fatal Frame V announced for the west, we've already got ourselves a winning hand.
Toss in N64 and DS virtual console games, some exciting gameplay of upcoming 2015 games like Splatoon, Mario Maker and Yoshi's Wooly World, DLC/updates for both Mario Kart and Smash, Amiibo Amiibo Amiibo and a fix for the ONE thing holding most people back from playing Code Name STEAM, and yes, I'd rate this up there as one of the most exciting Directs we've ever had. Not the best ever, but certainly up there.
@Captain_Gonru
I always loved Nintendo for saying Please Understand. Because they would always apologize for delays (when really, they owe no apology- delays happen and it's just how the industry works). But it was the humility on offer that gained my respect. While others childishly mock them for it, I would respect them for it. You can tell people like Iwata/Miamoto (Reggie, not so much but he never actually developed games- Reggie's just PR) actually have a passion for video games and an integrity which brings them to always ensure we get quality games for our money. I can never understand those who hold hatred for these guys when they love video games more than we do.
@Captain_Gonru - "They practically left another Direct wortth of material unsaid."
It's called E3. Sorry, couldn't resist.
@Sir_JBizzle - "more in line of what Nintendo would do."
Yeah, I realized after I typed it that's what they did w/ Mario Kart U, I mean 8, last year. And it does make more sense for a holiday release bundle, but only if they change the name to "Super Mario Splatoon" and the Super Mario amiibo line is playable. (Though now that I think about it that might actually make too much sense for them to do.)
@Captain_Gonru: they left way too much unsaid. I'd be a lot happier if they provided release dates on VC, indie, and retail releases up to E3. If there was some demonstration of an organized week by week deluge of games, It would go over so much better. After April, we may never hear about the n64 VC again. The GBA and Wii VC have already dissipated. And make mention of a reward system. Saving this makes no sense.
This is a weird time for Nintendo right now but as has been said, delightful indeed. We don't know much about what they (Nintendo and DeNa) got up their sleeve but my mind was blown watching the information overload yesterday.
@JaxonH - "and a fix for the ONE thing holding most people back from playing Code Name STEAM"
I have to admit, that was a stand-out memorable moment that gets overshadowed by all the other big news. A great game had 1 weak point, and they fixed it, and real fast also.
Now if they could just patch the Superguide from DKC:R into DKC:TF
@rjejr
Buck up, you don't need no stinkin super guide, you are rjejr, platformer guru and DKC aficionado. You eat horned penguins for breakfast and ride rhinoceros for sport.
yeah, unless u worked all day today, amiibos are already GONE!!!
martha focker!
BUT!
FE x SMT and FE for 3ds both look stellar!
couldnt be more excited to get any version of SMT on a ninty home console.
also, yarn yoshi amiibo!!!!!
EPIC direct imho
SO even though no one will be reading this, due to the volume of comments, I will gladly leave my thoughts. As many people have said, while great, this isn't the Nintendo Direct that will help sell the Wii U, there are very few games that will do that. I do think Nintendo is doing its best with the resources it has to pump out Nintendo-like-quality games while balancing 3DS/Amiibo etc..
but I do think that they have stretched themselves thin, or embraced too much, or assumed there would be more third party support, and so the release window is extremely lacking, which would be fine if this was the competition, because they have 3rd party support to fill those first party gaps, Nintendo only has Nintendo in the retail market, and its clear they have little to show, and they have done little to stop the leaks.
It's nice that they introduced Wii games last Direct, and now N64 and DS games this direct, but have we seen a Wii game since, is anyone convinced we will actually get a fleshed out library of N64 & DS games, Nintendo can barely get out NES/SNES/GBA games at a regular pace. It's a nice gesture, but extremely disconcerting, don't start something unless you are willing to flesh it out. They are plugging holes instead of filling voids.
It's nice that there is a wealth of indies, because its the only thing we can look forward to on a more-or-less regular basis.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed almost everything Nintendo threw at us, and I'm glad it's giving us (partially) what we want, and that they are listening to social media (fatal frame & fixing the terrible wait times on STEAM).
At least Nintendo is committed to Amiibo, nice new production, and continually trying new things with them (even if we don't all agree with implementation).
I'd actually have loved Nintendo to talk about third party retail releases, and see if they were actually productively working with third parties to try and bring more (or unique) third party games to Wii U, but alas, a dream that's just too big!
I'm excited for most, and look forward to all the great games coming, but the holes are really really big.
Fire emblem looked cool! Mewtwo looked really cool too, I would love to spend some quality time with him once he comes out...
@KodyDawg
Yeah, that's like every game system ever. What's your point? That you should default to assuming that nearly everything on the DS is "shovelware crap" and it's only worthwhile if Nintendo makes a VC version of it?
The point I was making is that, no matter what, the DS VC is going to miss the vast majority of even the best games on the system--so you'll still have to buy the actual physical games if you want them. Who cares if it's mostly shovelware--so was the PS2, and that is the highest-selling game system of all time, with one of the most celebrated libraries in gaming.
@Monado_III
same reason a lot of people had flash cards with only games they owned. some like digital better. I don't carry games around anymore, and I'd love to have digital versions of some choice DS games, like Mega Man ZX and Chrono Trigger.
it's pretty much the 3DS equivalent of putting wii VC games on the WiiU
@Quorthon well, Nintendo can put other games on the DS VC, it's not limited to just their own first part games, I mean they have plenty of mega man games for the other VC's, so I'm semi-hopeful for MMZX.
but it's nintendo, they can put games on there, but I'm pretty sure we're only getting 3 DS games for this year...
@RoomB31
I read your post.
Oh, and I have a quick comment to return to you on it. I think you hit the Virtual Console point on the nose. It feels like filling holes rather than addressing voids, and if the slow pace at which they've been barely releasing NES, SNES, and GBA games on the system is any indication, the N64 and DS Virtual Consoles will not anything truly momentous.
Like I said in my long-winded original analysis, it's going to make Nintendo fans happy--and it does, but it's not going to fix their problems, and it highlights the droughts in the retail line-up.
@briwipdx pac man is still there...
@khaosklub - not in portland, OR sadly (
its ok, ive done the amazon, now-in-stock, ebay amiibo race before...
and im guessing given that i'm at work when they "go live"
i'll be internet hunting the following waves as well, grrrr.
i guess its good europe and japan arent that into amiibo.
@khaosklub
Well, it's not Nintendo that puts those 3rd party games on the VC. That's up to those 3rd parties. So Nintendo won't be putting Mega Man games on there. You have to look to Capcom. Capcom has been good at putting games on the VC--but largely just Mega Man games, Street Fighter, and a couple others.
But like every other 3rd party, Capcom has not seen the value in supporting the Wii U, or Nintendo much beyond that.
@firstnesfan
Reality sure makes some of you angry. You should do something about that.
@Operative
The way they handled the Amiibo has really turned me off from buying or collecting them. There are a few that I want and a few that I have (Fit Trainer, Samus, Kirby, Mega Man, Shulk, and Sonic), but I find the entire thing to be just a massive headache.
All I originally really wanted was Little Mac, Pac-Man, Mega Man, Shulk and the Samuses. Despite my absolute loathing for Other M, I still love that franchise. I just hope they give Samus her spine back next time.
@Iggly oh look! We're have the same birthday, excited for Splatoon as well
@Quorthon I know nintendo doesn't put them up there, but you know what I mean, there'll be hopefully some third part support of the DS VC, so maybe contra will be on it...and I hope mega man ZX.
@Vineleaf
Ha--I was in a hurry and just looked up my own list over at VGCollect, so I own most of those.
Infinite Space is one I've been after for a while. I also forgot to mention Contact--which I have only ever seen in a store once--the day I bought it. Last year.
@JaxonH Horned penguins for breakfast would be a great album title. Also, that post of yours may be my most favourite ever.
@khaosklub
I think the Castlevanias will make it, but I don't think Contra 4 will. I'm not sure Contra 4 appeals to most modern Nintendo fans anyway. I'm old-school and the Contra franchise has always been a favorite for me. Like I said, that was my "off the fence" title that inspired me to finally buy the DS.
I'm probably the only person who bought a DS in large part for Contra 4.
@rferrari24 look at it this way, those games are supposed to come out this year.
@Quorthon I bought the PSP for mega man powered up, I suppose I know how you feel?
oooh, since nintendo and namco seem to be real buddy buddy, let's get some wonderswan VC games! I want rockman & forte, challengers from the future....
would also like SNES rockman and forte. I don't care if it's in japanese and I cannot read it, you just gotta jump 'n' shoot!
@Quorthon I lucked out on Infinite Space. It was $11 at my local game stop. Who also had Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, and Last Story for the Wii.
I'm actually down.to one DS game I'm still looking for: Ivy the Kiwi. Though when I get my DS out for non-RPG fun, it's usually Arkanoid DS. With the paddle controller. I've lost weeks to that.
@Vineleaf
Did Infinite Space come with the case? Because when I worked there, I have the sad news that it was standard practice to just throw those DS cases away. I saved around a hundred of them.
I don't have Ivy the Kiwi. That's another one I've been on the lookout for--also that shmup that was only released in Japan. But that thing is like $150.
@Quorthon No case, sadly. That was a little crushing, but finding it in the first place was great. Just like finding an Etrian Odyssey game in store last year.
No Ness. No Jigglypuff. I have the other 10 of the original 12. But now?
No, Nintendo is not being entertaining or providing a good diversion. They're just going the way of Capcom.
It wasn't terrible, but i guess I was expectng DragonQuest 10. That is my bad for wanting a dream. MK8 200 hundred cup and animal Crossing DLC brings life again to one of my favorite games for Wii U. XENOBLADE is almost here. I will be on that one for 2 months. That leaves June and I won't be getting Splatoon. Maybe I will pick an atlus game Or a VC nothing interest me for Wii u until X for WiiU comes out. 2015 is the year for Xenoblade that's it. Maybe I will look into fatal frame. Mario Maker does not interest me. Yoshi world I won't even look at. Im going to be on my 3ds a lot more this year.
I almost forgot I have Tropical freeze to download if I get board.
@River3636
I was about to ask you how on earth Splatoon and Yoshi's Wooly World don't interest you (I think they look brilliant, especially Yoshi's Wooly World) but then you redeemed yourself with that DKC comment. Tropical Freeze is a classic, you'll love it. Especially if you like mastering technical skill- then the time trials are what you want. I sunk months into those time trials. Just watching the video uploads of top 10 could entertain me for hours
As long as I can't walk into a store and buy the Amiibo I want for a game I just got, I won't be hooked. In fact, I'm beginning to feel alienated by it. I hardly have time to sit around looking for every Amiibo announcement and refreshing web pages. When I purchase a game like Kirby or Codename S.T.E.A.M. and it has Amiibo content I want but I can't find the right figures, I end up getting frustrated, I've hardly even started either of those examples because I wanted the Amiibo content during my playthrough and so I've just been playing other games in the meantime but at this rate, Amiibo enabled games will simy become turnoffs for me. When I purchase a game I shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get extra content, I should be able to give nintendo my money for the figures I want. I know I sound whines but it's just really getting upsetting, if you don't decide to purchase an Amiibo on the first day of preorders then you're in for a rollercoaster trying to get it - and I definitely can't afford to get each one just in case a game I want uses it.
Shrek for smash
@JaxanH I'm not sure why I'm not interest in Splatoon, maybe it's because I don't care for shooters. Yoshi World I never got into and I have one on VC for Wii but my true love is RPGs. I only spend my money on a platform once in a blue moon. When a new mario comes out. I love DKCs though, even if I got one for free 2 years in a row. Maybe I'm just in a rut I don't know.
I mostly liked it.
We got two Fire Emblem games coming out for the 3DS.
Splatoon has an actual release date AND an Amiibo set.
Fatal Frame is actually coming out in the west. WOW
Mario Kart 8 -Animal Crossing DLC being released a early
And SMT x FE is not vaporware and will be out next year.
The only things that disappointed me were how late in the year Yoshi's Woolly World and Xenoblade X were being released. And no word(or trailer) on StarFox.
Oh well, still another month and a half til E3....
@JaxonH - In Donkey Kong, rhinos ride me for sport.
(Thats supposed to be a riff on a joke about how things are in Russia, told w/ a bad russian accent, but I dont think I got it quite right.)
Posted from my Wii U Gamepad w/ a ballpoint pen cap.
@rjejr
Haha that's good. I envision the voice of that Russian who played the lone space station astronaut in Armageddon. "In Mother Russia (rolls the "th" in Mother), rhinoceros ride ME for sport, haha [swigs vodka)"
I haven't seen any SquareEnix games for VC in the states. They have saome good ones for the ds. Once again I'm dreaming.
What I enjoyed seeing from the Direct:
Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem: Gorgeous visuals, an infectiuos trailer soundtrack and features Fire Emblem and Shin Megami Tensei characters and mechanics like they were never seen before. What is there not to like?
N64 Virtual Console: So hyped for Donkey Kong 64. Hope Nintendo adds more great classics like Kirby 64, Pokemon Stadium 2, 1080 Snowboarding, Mario Party 2 and Custom Robo V2.
Lucas: Praise be to Sakurai for making him return to Smash Bros., albeit being a late entry. That's DLC I'll happily pay for.
Fatal Frame 5: Finally, the first Fatal Frame to come to America in, what now, ages! It may appeal to a niche market, but let's hope this gives Nintendo the boost and confidence to release region-exclusive titles worldwide.
Fire Emblem (if): The first Fire Emblem that contains 2 stories in one game. Hours will be invested.
Smash Bros. Ballot: A nifty way to let Nintendo know what video game characters we'd like to see playable in Smash Bros. Though the site says votes are limited to one per person... one can vote as many times as he/she actually wants.
Mario Kart 8: At 200cc, those cars must be going so fast they could break the sound barrier. Can't wait to handle such intense speeds!
Disappointments:
Smash Bros. Costume DLC: Why pay for costumes that serve no purpose other than aesthetics? Sorry, but not my cup of tea.
No Xenoblade Chronicles X news: Big bummer. I know Nintendo showed much of the game during these recent months, but I had hoped to see footage of the game, possibly gameplay.
No Wii download software games: Huge letdown. Wanted to hear about possible new releases, like Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword or Rhythm Heaven Fever.
The disappointments aside, this recent Direct must have been the most content-stuffed ever. If Nintendo speaks more about SMTXFE, Devil's Third, Xenoblade Chronicles X, StarFox U, and any new, unannounced projects to E3 2015, and no other major showings could attempt or hope to compare.
Oh, and by the way, I've been looking around on social media and happened upon a particular opinion about which characters may have featured in the video. Here they are (not arranged in chronological order):
https://youtu.be/gKaHMqkjGS8
Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem Nintendo Direct 04/01/2015 Video: Recognizable Characters
Marth (The character at the video's beginning, decked out in royal clothing, cape and mechanical-like arm, 0:17)
Severa (In a belly-baring outfit that looks cybernetic, with feathers at the shoulders and hips; also sports unusually long pigtails that make her look like a dark Hatsune Miku, 0:53)
Lyn (Pink dress and recognizable ponytail, although not as long as original game, the girl seen at the trailer's end, 1:06)
Chrom (0:38, at the screen's right side; really can't clarify for certain. Also seems to be in an outfit much like the supposed's protagonist's. Information obtained from external source.)
Eirika (0:34. This is an assumption I'm making because of this character's long, blue hair, which resembles Eirika's. Can't go any further than that because of the mask, also, she seems to be riding a pegasus, which she couldn't do in her original game.)
Tiki (0:52, sports green hair in a similar style, but in a deeper hue compared to the original, also wears some manner of crown/tiara and wears an outfit much like a maiden's.)
FATAL FRAME!
@Quorthon
I just read the article and most of your yay-groan-boo comment is pretty much spot on I chuckled. Except I'm a happy Wii U owner with the direct. Probably because after the SNES, PSone and Megadrive era, I went full PC gaming. It's only last 2013 that I came back with the Wii U and will probably get a PS4 down the line when there's more exclusive (or multiplats I preferred) to consoles I'm interested I can't get on PC.
Those N64, Wii, GBA, DS VCs on the Wii U are pretty much welcome to me. Plus I just got a N3DS so I'm set until NX. I can understand those who didn't skip past Nintendo consoles though. There is indeed a drought even for first party games. It felt empty on the first half here in EU for the Wii U even for me who have plenty of backlog to play. I've only bought Captain Toad so far for the major new games. Mario Party? Well I'm not gonna buy it until I find a Toad amiibo and company. I've never seen one Super Mario line on GameStop nor on any major retailers here in Italy including our own Amazon.
These locked contents on games aren't a problem for me if only there's plenty of amiibo from retailers. I'm not going to pay past €15 for one. SRP is 12,99 but most retailers including GS are charging 14,99€.
I never really care much for retro and vc. Prime trilogy being an exception.
So nah, not much for me. But the mario kart and splatoon was good for me:)
@unrandomsam I believe the word used was "gear" unlocks. As in costumes and such. Which were then shown off. Which I think is fine. But what do I know?
I loved this direct, but by comments I see you can't please everybody. Even if nintendo given free wii u's and games there will be someone complaining.
Personally, I've always have been a fan of playing games on the console it was intended for. Granted, that means buying certain games is a pain, so I see the benefit of VC. But seeing how that was a big aspect this Direct, I'm a bit disappointed. I love that Nintendo gets sentimental about a lot of things, but there's apoint where you need some novelty. It existed, but very little in this Direct. Meh. I am hopeful for E3, though... please don't let me down.
I didn't watch the Direct since I was knee deep in paper (which I may or may not get credit for grumblegrumble) but the news met my expectations and even had some pleasant surprises like Fatal Frame and SMTxFE bringing bought back from the undead. Also Inkling amiibo hecks yes.
So I'd say it was a good one. A bit more than I expected in what will likely be their last direct to announce before E3.
If this direct was "brilliant", what about the actual brilliant ones we had? Are they uber-brilliant?
Of course I like what they showed but it was far from brilliant...
Oh well the core is ready to cheer very gleefully for it anyway.
Fatal Frame Wii U was confirmed for the West.
Thank you, that is all. My opinion is unflappably high because of that news. No flash pictures, please. (Leaves stadium)
@JaxonH @rjejr
Showing my age here:
"In Soviet Russia, [something] [ironic reversals] you!"
It's a take on 80s comedian and late cold-war culture icon Yakov Smirnov. A former Soviet Comic who defected to the United States.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbP1DVeJCT0
People seem to have had very high expectations for this Direct. I went in wanting to know when N64 games would be released on the VC, and a release date for Woolly World. In that way, this Direct was fantastic and everything else was just a nice bonus.
@Action51
That was a real commercial lol?
IMO this Nintendo Direct was even weaker than I expected. I was at the very least expecting a glimpse at Star Fox..
@Stubborn_Monkey
Are they really going to dub it? I'm going to play with japanese voices anyways.
I was happy about the Smash Bros, Mario Kart and Codename Steam updates. I enjoyed watching the game footage. I smiled at the Yoshi amiibo. I didn't expect any major announcements this close to E3. I'm waiting to judge Nintendo's 2015/16 library until after E3.
@Quorthon so on that assessment do you think Zelda U is going to be the only major blockbuster for Wii U in 2016?
@JaxonH I was pretty young when the whole Yakov thing was big, but I remember it...and yes, Miller beer is a pretty big brand here in the States, even if it tastes like fermented dishwater, lol.
@Action51 oh I live in Wisconsin, I just never saw those commercials before. I was born in 84, that one looked a little before my time. Actually, when was that commercial first aired?
I really enjoyed the Direct. Not quite enough shown for my own personal tastes to be a 'slam dunk' but some good updates, some good announcements and of course that Shin Megami Tensei crossover trailer.
The only people who could be disappointed by the Direct, are those who have set their own expectations which aren't met. I would have liked some kind of news about Starfox or Devil's Third or a surprise reveal, and that would probably have put the icing on the cake for me ... but I enjoyed all the announcements, even the things I have absolutely no interest in at all (what's that Amiibo Tap demo thing all about ???).
Who else provides so much output and so much information DIRECTLY to the gamer ? Keep it coming Nintendo.
Ultimately I think Nintendo fans are so starved of content, anything from Nintendo can be considered generous. "Zelda is delayed to who knows when, but don't worry, look at all this ammmmiiibbbbooooo!"
@Fluffy_Bunny_Bob The amiibo tap thing is basically a free download on the Wii U eshop that when entered allows to play random VC demos by tapping amiibo to the Gamepad.
@Grumblevolcano Yeah, I know what it is, but what's the point ?
@Fluffy_Bunny_Bob Allows people to try out the classics that haven't played them before hence possibly increasing VC sales.
@AyeHaley
Toys and DLC for old games? This direct was one of the top 3!!
@Luffymcduck
Releasing a game with such high production values without localizing it 100% would be a rather glaring shortcoming, don't you think?
Also, the main characters are survivors of an American space mission; hearing them NOT speak English would be a bit odd...
@Grumblevolcano ... I heard that the 3 minute demos are for classic NES & SNES games, but not that they are games on VC, so I may have missed that bit. Also, not all the games on the service are accessible from each Amiibo, so what's the point in having a demo service that wont let you access the demo you want to try ? Only 3 minutes ... so rather than someone going online and read reviews and perhaps catch-up with some gameplay footage, Nintendo gives a 3 minute demo of a game you aren't interested in as a marketing tool ???
I see the possibilities of this, but to me Ninty hasn't quite got it right. I'd much rather just have the first 10 minutes of 5 games per Amiibo figure. It's enough to pass the time for some fun, can generate sales of a full game on VC, and is a fun use of the Amiibo range. Just 3 minutes of play, from random levels in a variety of random games just sounds ... too short and random, to attract me to use it.
@Fluffy_Bunny_Bob
You forgot to mention it's a 3 minute demo of 30-20 year old games which most Nintendo fans have either already played or owned.
Good concept!
The Directs are marketing tools for Nintendo customers. I'm not really sure why the expectations are so high going into them.....other then rampant speculation and hoping for the fun of dreaming, but that shouldn't cloud your vision about what reality will be.
E3 is two months away. They are not going to go crazy with new reveals now because E3 is the big event that even non gamers pay attention too and all the major announcements will be saved for that.
@MasterBlaster
For a free bonus feature experiment, you sure seem upset, like you had to pay money for it, or that this was only added by removing something else that was promised when you bought your Amiibo.
This is what frustrates me so much about today's gamers: so spoiled and cynical you have to gripe about a totally free, optional thing that you would have never missed in the first place.
"what? Free tacos included with my soup and salad bar? I bet they don't even have fresh jalapeño salsa...how lame."
@Action51
Just pointing out that it is of very little benefit for most people!
"This is what frustrates me so much about today's gamers"
awwhhh pooor baby!
I have a feeling that most DLC characters for Smash will be clones, so Wolf and either Pichu or Roy will be back. The only DLC characters that won't be clones will be the ballot winners (unless the winner is a clone ) and Mewtwo.
Don't need VC I already own, hate DLC, and amiibo make me want to puke. These stalling tactics aren't working on everyone. In 2014, we were looking forward to 2015. Already looks like now it's 2016. I want Star Fox, but who knows when that is coming... and Splatoon should be fun with 10k or so people that actually buy it.
Overall slightly disappointing. Maybe I'm just getting tired of Nintendo software in general but I'm less excited the more they reveal their mobile/DLC/amiibo mentality across all their titles.
All the games being revealed are slowly looking like that Mona Lisa DLC meme. Some pieces are getting cut up and put into store-exclusive amiibos that sell out pre-orders within minutes and are being re-sold for over three times the price on Ebay. $1 costume packs suddenly added to a game that's all about unlocking trophies and new challengers.
Personally I'm done for a while. After all that news all I cared for were the indies, the addition of 200cc, and the Mewtwo DLC that really should've just released with the SSB games. And that shouldnt have been the case. If this NDirect happened last year before all the amiibo rush, I would've been happy to pick up SM64 and DK64. Now, I'm content letting all that pass me by.
@TheSwagMaster98 do you have a link to the website to vote? or anyone who does? D:
For me this direct was just a bit of both good and bad. Yeah i got more information on wolly's world and splatoon which was ok i like the mario kart update they plan to do other then that im curious on the attack on titan game but nothing to crazy that made me go wow this will be really interesting....just seemed like DLC this and amiibo that >.>
also who voted to add majora's mask kid in smash bros?or am i the only one who plans to? D:
Seems they are really playing to existing Nintendo fans, more than anything else.
With Mario 64, I've bought it too many times already, and why does the Wii U VC not have a more diverse range of systems than just Nintendo, and even then, there is a comparative paltry selection to the Wii.
I recall thinking what an great idea the Virtual Console back when it was announced for the 'revolution' - it really sold me the Wii console, but the Wii U... not so much.
@YoshiTails
At this point, I expect Zelda U to pull a Twilight Princess and be a launch title for NX. Twilight Princess was announced 3 years before it launched on the Wii and GameCube--and part of it's delay was to make it a Wii launch title.
I think Nintendo has a few more up their sleeve for the Wii U that are already pretty far into development, but I think given the sales, in-house, they are, already, no longer starting major Wii U projects.
This follows their history pretty closely, particularly for "unpopular" consoles like the N64 and GameCube, which were very lacking over their final two years. The release schedule now reflects Nintendo doing a "just hang in there" strategy until they can get NX out and, whatever it is, quickly wash the public's memory of the Wii U.
I understand that people love the Wii U--I like the Wii U, but it does not captivate me, I do not love it, and little there draws my attention, while it seems that every week the PS4 feels more amazing and useful. The reality is that Nintendo had once, very clearly stated that "selling below the GameCube" would be grounds for considering a console a failure.
Here's a quote:
In a Corporate Management Briefing, when asked about how many Wii Nintendo expected to have sold in three yeras, Satoru Iwata said, "I do not intend to declare how many Wii we will be selling today, but Wii will be a failure if it cannot sell far more than GameCube did. In fact, we shouldn't continue this business if our only target is to outsell GameCube. Naturally, we are making efforts so that Wii will show a far greater result than GameCube."
You can find that here: http://www.1up.com/news/iwata-wii-doesn-outsell-gamecube
The Wii U is selling worse than the GameCube (and the Dreamcast thus far), and that's just plain old reality. Sucks, but there it is.
It makes sense for Nintendo to start moving to the new console ASAP to (hopefully) start building a new audience.
When Zelda U was delayed--and correct me if I'm mistaken--but they did not actually state "2016," they only said it would "miss 2015." Miyamoto has noted that the next major Mario game will not come to Wii U, it will (or may already be) in development for the next platform. Nintendo is going to spread out their remaining Wii U games in order to keep the console afloat with the already-converted fans. They are not selling to fence-sitters, casuals, or people who aren't Nintendo fans. The Xbox is on it's 3rd iteration, the Playstation brand on it's 4th. We now have legions of gamers who have no nostalgia at all for anything of Nintendo's past. Appealing to the core fans and nostalgia hunters works only for maintaining those of us who are already here.
It doesn't bring in anyone new. And Nintendo needs to figure out how to do that again--but unlike with the Wii, they need to figure out how to keep them coming back.
I would not be surprised if Zelda U became Zelda NX. It's happened before. It makes perfect sense for it to happen again.
@Inkling
I can see that, but if that's the case, and the "new" characters aren't actually "new" and just clones or returning characters, then why even bother? They should've been in the game from the start if that's the case.
@outburst
I think the best Nintendo fans, at this point, are those who do the most of their gaming on some other platform. Then they are able to take a step back, look at the reality of the company, and understand the issues better. They also finally see how insufferable so many Nintendo fans can be in their absurd denials of reality.
I was that insufferable at one time--during the SNES days, but last generation the X360 was my primary, and this gen, the PS4 is. There's more to "gaming" than "Mario-Zelda-Pokemon" (the MZP set on which Nintendo focuses most of their attention), and I can't experience it all with just Nintendo consoles anymore. I almost could with the GameCube, which is why I loved that system so much.
It's all well and good that Nintendo fans are happy, but that is literally the only group Nintendo is trying to appease or appeal to right now. They're a dedicated group, but a small one. They alone cannot keep the company afloat forever.
@Vineleaf
That's a bummer.
There's a smallish local place up the road from me that, somehow, last year suddenly got an influx of unexpected games--Etrian Odyssey 1~3, DS Final Fantasy games, Mega Man ZX games, Ghost Trick, etc.--and they were all new. I know the EO games were briefly reprinted at some point, but it was like they got an old box of goodies from a warehouse somewhere.
I snatched up the Etrian Odyssey 2 and 3 just to have them, and a few others.
i for one loved it. Now we have N64 games, we're one step closer to GC games, right? I'm also surprised they didn't mention Starfox. That omission may mean they're saving it for E3, which may mean they have more games lined up, but will throw it at us all at once at E3.
I'm upset Mario Maker is so far away but at least it's announced. And am I the only one excited that Nintendo are giving us the chance to nominate the next Smash Bros character for dlc? That's awesome isn't it?
@Quorthon wrote "I think the best Nintendo fans, at this point, are those who do the most of their gaming on some other platform"
The best Nintendo Fans? Are you avin a Giraffe? Lol
There simply must be at least one one big announcment for 2015 that is being held back, hopefully 2. Everthing else would be a bad joke.
only things i didnt like is they did not say if tournament mode and miiverse stage is coming with mewtwo and that yoshi wooly world release date is so soon after splatoon i wont get it as soon as it comes out
@rjejr Well going back to your comment on why should anyone buy a Wii U...you seem to forget that if they didn't already have a Wii U, then they wouldn't own all the games that are already released. That's a pretty good reason to buy a Wii U
@Captain_Gonru - Well OK, Nitnedo has abandoned the open theater presentation aspect of E3, but they seemed to have a fairly sizable on floor presence last year, and the E3 Direct was rather good - I liked the humor anyway, don't actually recall the game contents. And hours of live Treehouse coverage. I'd have to go back and look, but I think my decision last year was they won E3.
And w/ their acknowledgement of NX it means they want to stay in the hardware business, so they have to continue doing SOMETHING for E3. They may not show up, but they won't ignore the event dates. Even @JaxonH may get annoyed if they completely act like there's no such thing as E3. They become Sega if that happens.
So there will be an ND for E3, Starfox, XCX - which should be released in the west this autumn - Wii Music U (sorry, just a stand in for something for the causals, Nintedo Land 2, Wit Fit U2, Sports Club 2, something) - some HD remake of Sunshine or a Luigi's Mansion coupled w/ a port of LM2. They'll come thru, b/c the alternative is Q being right, and I won't stand for that.
@rjejr
I'd like to point out that if you don't even remember the game announcements from the way Nintendo approached E3 last year, then what they did was kind of a failure. I mean, the point is to get you to remember game announcements and talk about them.
@TingLz
To be fair, that argument can be used for every platform, and when those platforms are measured against one another, the Wii U still has a library that will appeal to the smallest number of people--especially once price is factored in. Seriously, it's Xbox 360-level hardware that costs only $50 less than the vastly more powerful Xbox One. The retail store spaces for the Wii U are microscopic compared to the PS4 and XBO. That is what consumers see, that is what is going to help sell hardware. Remove any of your pre-conceived tastes for MZP games and just stand back and look at the raw facts from the standpoint of a regular consumer:
Wii U: $300. Dated technology, strange controller, small game library, no Blu-Ray player (yes, this matters to many consumers), few streaming services.
Xbox One: $350. Modern, advanced technology, familiar controller, large visible game library, Blu-Ray player, tons of streaming services.
Playstation 4: $400. Modern, advanced technology, familiar controller, large visible game library, Blu-Ray player, tons of streaming services, the largest library of exclusive games.
As a regular gamer or general consumer, which of those looks better? Be honest. Because that's how retail sales work.
We can come up with lots of "good reasons" for someone to get a Wii U, but the fact still remains that, by and large, either Sony and MS are offering better reasons (I would argue this point), or fans clearly aren't interested in the Wii U reasons.
About, maybe, 8 months or so after the Wii U launched, we could already see the problems the console was going to face. Even for a first year (normally the worst of any console), it was pretty bad. My girlfriend tossed around the idea of getting one (then we'd have two in the house), and despite how much I loved the console at the time, I told her not to.
Even then, it was obvious it wasn't going to have the games she wanted or was going to be interested in playing over this generation. By fall of last year, she and I both upgraded to current gen--I with a PS4 and she with the XBO, and we were happy with those purchases almost immediately. Because these platforms have the games we want to play--Dragon Age, Witcher, Bloodborne, Sunset Overdrive--this is where Fallout 4 will be when it arrives. Lords of the Fallen, Shadow Warrior (that game was tons of old-school styled fun), and countless others.
Yes, there are a lot of good games on the Wii U, but while they make Nintendo fans happy, they obviously do not sell to anyone else. If there was going to be any title to really sell the Wii U, it was going to be Mario Kart and/or Smash Bros, and neither had much of an impact.
It's not a matter of "well we can see the value, they're just stupid because they can't." No, it's that Nintendo does not appeal to as many people as the fans think they do. Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon did not sell the Wii. A fad, a gimmick, and Wii Sports did. People didn't buy it for Nintendo. They bought it because it was the latest fad.
@TingLz - "why should anyone buy a Wii U..."
We could discuss it better if you wouldn't have replaced "over the next 5 months" w/ an ellipses ...
"Why should anyone buy a Wii U over the next 5 months"
My thoughts are home consoles are a lot of money, they make good purchases when their is a reason:
1. Release day for early adopter bragging rights and those who can't wait
2. Big game releases you can't do w/o. I bought my Wii U for Pikmin 3, I'm waiting on Uncharted 4 for a PS4.
3. Holiday Christmas gifts b/c it's what we and the kids really want.
4. Black Friday sales. Americans lose their minds for BF sales and don't regain their minds until Jan when the credit card bills arrive.
5. Price drops. I bought my Gamecube 2 days after it hit $99 and my PS2 2 days after it hit $199.
I don't see any of those things happening "over the next 5 months" as I don't see Splatoon as a huge system mover. And I think the so called "hardcore" gamer who may have been interested in a shooter may even be turned off by the amiibo $35 pack.
Thats US only BTW, JApan is getting a very cool XCX bundle in April, adn EU getting Spalton a month before Yoshi's Wooly World w/ the empahsis on amiibo for both coudl help consoles sell somewhat better in both o fthose regions. But in the US, I stand by my original comment - Why buy a Wii U IN THE NEXT 5 MONTHS? Wait for a price drop, wait for a sale, wait for something, but don't buy now. I think that holds for the majority of potential customers, people celebrating birthdays or graduations in June may feel otherwise.
Hey @Quorthon stop ninjaing me. I'm old, forgetful and I type slow as
And you make most of what I type redundant.
@MasterBlaster - Okay, sounds like you're here to get attention and troll.
@Quorthon - Aren't you just super enlightened then?
" They also finally see how insufferable so many Nintendo fans can be in their absurd denials of reality."
I think you need a few extra scoops of condescending to hand out to the fanbases of every platform and a few to the gamers of this generation in general.
Let's just make something clear, not everyone is going to enjoy gaming the same way. I used to own Sony console, but I see nothing in their last two that appeals to me or makes me want to own them when I'm capable of putting a PC together.
What's the difference?
I think you have to let it go...if you aren't a fan of Nintendo consoles then that's fine...but I have no right to tell people who like Sony or Microsoft or Ouya...or whatever consoles how foolish they are, and I'm so tired of self-righteous attention seekers like you who try to tell me what I'm supposed to like.
We get it...Nintendo is terrible and you are better then us for realizing it. Just let me go down with my Nintendoomedâ„¢ ship in peace.
@rjejr
Whoa, two days in a row! Ha, sorry about that! I'm old, too, but I type like a ninja.
...like a ninja would type, I guess.
I type good.
Well, that's not any better...
@Action51
You waste considerable time when you comment off a blind assumption that I'm not a Nintendo fan. I wouldn't be here if I wasn't. I wouldn't even think of going somewhere and commenting on things if I know or care nothing for them.
It's also a straw man argument--perhaps you didn't actually read my post--to say I'm telling you what you should or should not like. Did I tell you what to like? By all means, please show me when I did.
I stated that the Nintendo fans that tend to be the most even-tempered are the ones who are not solely dedicated to Nintendo platforms. Would you like me to elaborate on that? Or will you just invent different things to disagree with if I do?
@Quorthon
Your post says one thing, but your previous posts and history say another. You may not even realize how negative and condescending you have become.
Either way, I wouldn't take the time to comment unless it were something that I found to be repetitive and insulting.
You clearly leave many with the impression that not only are you unhappy with everything Nintendo does, but that you feel yourself superior to anyone provincial and delusional enough to feel otherwise.
Just saying.
@Action51
Calls someone a 'self righteous attention seeker' then proceeds to self righteously criticize someone else! lol
People can like Nintendo but still not be happy with everything they release/do. Sorry, but having a different opinion doesn't make them a troll.
@Quarthon
When you mentioned Nintendo having a smaller presence in stores it reminded me. Last week I went into the EB at the mall for the first time in like 4 months and was shocked. The Wii U/3DS/Wii section was tucked away into a tiny corner in the back of the store (alongside the Skylanders and amiibo) and was probably the same size as the Vita section. Unreal. The PS/Xbox walls took up well over 2/3rds of the shelf space.
You could literately walk into the store and not even know Nintendo stuff was available (other than the discount bins selling Wii shovel ware)
@Action51
If you think I'm "superior" because I can understand the reality of the company, that's really not my problem. As I said, it's fine that Nintendo fans are happy--Nintendo is clearly not trying to appeal to anyone else as they prepare to close out the Wii U over the next two years.
But Nintendo fan happiness does not mean Nintendo is fixing things, or addressing their biggest problems. They are placating a group that is easy to please so that they can survive until the NX is out.
If my posts say "different things," it's either that I'm addressing different topics or you are misreading. Frankly, I'm probably more like a broken record than anything else at this point.
@Aslanmagic A happy Holy Week and Easter to you my good sir.
@Quorthon
This is going nowhere fast, as I suspected it would.
First off, I don't think you are "superior" I think you come off as though you believe you are, and you are extremely condescending to anyone who doesn't share your Nintendoomâ„¢ script.
There's nothing more I can do but repeat what I've already said about that, so take it under advisement or disregard it...I'm just telling it like I see it, man.
You do sound like a broken record, you keep insisting anyone who isn't as full of cynical anger at Nintendo as you are is delusional... That was my point, and you do seem to confirm this with every post, but I suppose you've gotten so used to doing it you've become oblivious to it.
Broken record thing...yeah...I feel that too. Anyway...that's all I got, have a good one.
I thought that the direct was really good. I went in expecting nothing and came out pleasantly surprised. I think the only thing that really disappointed me was that Xenoblade Chronicles X did not make an appearance, but that was made up for with the showing off of SMTxFE, FE If, Smash ballot, and 200cc. I thought it was one of the better directs that we have gotten. I would rank it as the 5th best direct we have had.
ND Top 5 in my opinion
5.April 2015
4.E3 2013
3.December 2013
2.Janaury 2013
1.E3 2014( It was a slightly different format but the deluxe digital presentation was just a really high budget ND)
Well, happy Holy Week and Easter to my fellow Catholics and Christians; and a happy week and weekend to my atheist, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Shinto, Buddhist, and any other faith friends.
I liked it. The new Fire Emblem looks cool, I would love to get the Splatoon and Yarn Yoshi amiibos, which probably won't happen (thanks, scalpers!), the Mario Kart 8 dlc is coming earlier than exected, Fire Emblem If looks awesome, and, oh yeah! LUCAS IS COMING BACK TO SMASH BROS OH MY GAWD HYYYYPE!!!!!...In case you couldn't tell I was happy. It wasn't the best one ever...but I think it was still pretty dang good. Now to just wait until E3...
@Action51 - Thanks, I only knew it from /. (Slashdot) That, "a cluster of ..." and "I, for one, welcome our new ...overlords." And I'm old enough to remember Smirnoff commercials, but old enough to have forgotten them as well.
I like the Nintendoomedâ„¢.
Just an observation:
I think there is a lot of anger and disappointment in the post-mobile "8th gen" of gaming, and Nintendo is taking a lot of the flak for it...some deservedly, some unfairly.
For all the outrage and disappointment in the Wii U, I'm looking around and wondering where is all the compelling software on any platform?
Let's face it...the indie scene and the 3DS are the most interesting facets of game development right now.
I think people were expecting Nintendo to swoop in and "save gaming" but instead they launched the first of the underwhelming "next gen" consoles and it turned out to be a marginal improvement over last with even more fickle support from third party mega-publishers.
Long development times, mediocre releases after months of hype, and a race to the bottom in pricing and marketplace exposure...this is not just a Nintendo problem, but they're certainly having the toughest time adapting.
People need to reign in their expectations a little, unless you can honestly tell me that you were totally satisfied with this year's Ubi, EA, and Activision releases as the mind blowing "next gen" wonderment we were promised.
@rjejr - Hah yeah, I remember him vaguely as a kid. Just like "Where's the Beef?" and Earnest P Worrell "Hey Vern, know what I mean?"
@Action51
It is delusional to deny reality. What would you call it?
If you were on a sinking ship, would you consider it sane to stand on the bow and say "everything's going fine!"?
Again, it's fine to be personally happy with some of the offerings, but it is delusional to pretend Nintendo as a corporation, a console maker, or the Wii U itself is doing well. No, there are serious problems--and the Direct did not address those problems.
Why does it so bother to you admit this?
You are also now flip-flopping on your responses to me--either I keep changing my points or I'm a broken record. I can't be both. And you never answered my question where I was telling you what you can and cannot like.
@Action51
Per your lengthier comment, first off, it's absolutely moronic to expect major sweeping changes in the first year of any console of any generation. The first year of every console is always the worst--even the most rudimentary research shows this. So to harp on EA, Ubi, Activision, MS, or Sony for "not magically advancing to a new future" essentially overnight is personally irresponsible, and woefully unrealistic.
It takes time to break in this new hardware and software. How many games have been made in Unreal 4 so far? I'm pretty sure it's fewer than a dozen.
To that point, no doubt, you clearly do not know what exists on the PS4, XBO, or even PCs. Those first steps into the full "next gen" step are occurring. Bloodborne, for instance. Sunset Overdrive.
It's ironic that you think people should reign in expectations, while seemingly having unrealistic ones for the PS4 or XBO, or any third party publisher. On the one hand, no one should have been fully satisfied with the first year because it was exactly that--the first year.
It is also your opinion that the indie scene and 3DS are the most interesting. The indie scene--a good argument can be made for that. But the 3DS is slipping in support exactly like the Wii U.
Suffice to say, at this point, if you don't see compelling software on any platform, it's because you're choosing not to. That includes the Wii U. Frankly, if there's nothing "compelling" to play on the PS4 or XBO, by all means, explain why people have been compelled to catapult those consoles to higher sales than all their predecessors. Clearly, lots of consumers are seeing something you either cannot see or refuse to see.
Keeping in mind that I never said the Wii U doesn't have some good games (I will always champion Rayman Legends and ZombiU)--only that Nintendo has failed to fully utilize the GamePad or justify it's existence and that games alone are not the problem with the Wii U not selling. There are a lot of problems which prevent it from selling.
By the way, this is nothing personal. Your comments had points I felt deserved addressing. Again, I'm all for you being happy with the Wii U--what does that affect me? It's Nintendo, largely, where my issue lies. I have so longed for them to return to a position of prominence and influence in the industry, but instead they choose to marginalize themselves. They keep trying to sell on nostalgia--but the Playstation brand is 20 years old and the Xbox brand is 15 years old. There are a lot of other younger gamers with no Nintendo nostalgia at all. This gameplan is a recipe for diminishing profits at best, and failure at worst.
It's unsettling to see the company that made me a gamer so fast-track themselves to irrelevance in a field they helped create. As I've noted before--it's like Henry Ford being forced from his own company for forgetting how to innovate in the industry he helped create. That's Nintendo now. They are, in many ways, a confused old man who doesn't understand the changes that occurred around him.
@MasterBlaster
The GameStop I worked at--when the Wii U launched--was pretty much the same way. Wii stuff was crammed into a corner by the store room/office door, and Wii U stuff took up a very small section towards the front.
I've seen people try to spin this as some kind of conspiracy theory or GS being "paid off" by other publishers, but the reality is that they will give more space to stuff that sells. That's one of the cornerstones of a free market and supply and demand.
Personally, I'm glad I quit that place before they started changing them to the bizarre floorplans they have now. What a mess.
Seriously, most of the comments I read here could come from unbehaved children, who cry because they don't get the toys they want. Honestly, how old are you, guys? This behavior and the article are ridiculous. I mean, those costume DLCs are nothing else than cosmetic items, which are given in any common MMORPG nowadays. It would be bad if those items would give advantages. And about the lack of games or postponed release dates... this is not the first time, yet you act like it is. Honestly, get a grip, will ya?
"amiibo makes Nintendo boatloads so its here to stay in every direct for the near future"
I know, and I hate it! If a gamer is spending more money on Amiibo then on games (since there's a lack thereoff), something is truly wrong!!
what they seriously need to do is turn on all of the classics on the new 3ds systems. When I say that I mean every Super Nintendo game that they currently have license to sell maybe even N64 games. they stated that the old Nintendo DS hardware was just not powerful enough to provide enough throughput for the older games to be emulated correctly however now the processor is quite beefier and should have more than enough power to run older games especially the ones that they already have ported to the Wii U.
@HellrazerX But, that would make too much sense. I'd love to see it happen though.
@Quorthon I'm perfectly Zen, I just don't understand the point of spending as much time and energy as you do slagging off Nintendo. Life is short, spend your time doing what you enjoy. You must enjoy making the comments that you make, otherwise you wouldn't make them. I enjoy playing my Wii U and my PS3 but if it stopped being enjoyable I'd just stop do ok ng it and do something else that is.
@Jetset
I'd admire your desperate attempt to "throw my comment back at me" if it wasn't so blatantly transparent.
The PS4 is, quite simply, the smoothest, fastest, cleanest system I have ever used--and I own every console from the last two generations, and with my girlfriend, we own all of them of this generation. It downloads updates automatically, using it is seamless and quick.
Every week, new elements are constantly added to and updated--last week, Spotify. It took less time to set up and start using than it takes the Wii U to install an update.
When you sit there and continue to pull the tired old "has no games, maybe Bloodborne," you are pulling the same fanboyish nonsense out of your behind that so many had against the Wii U during it's first year. The difference is, the PS4 still has a huge library of games--first, second, third party, and indie--whereas the Wii U has first party, a few indie ports, and almost nothing else.
Here's a question--perhaps you can enlighten me. If the Wii U is such a monstrously superior value, why is it selling far worse than the XBO and PS4? If you're going to sit there and pull the "PS4 has nothing to play" card of deliberate ignorance, then you logically must follow with, "but it's still selling better than the Wii U, so the Wii U must be worse off."
The opinion of one YouTube personality means nothing when the general population clearly disagrees.
Hell, later in the week, after I was talking about Spotify with a guy on my dev team, he revealed that it can be linked with my phone, and I can actually control Spotify on my PS4 with my phone--merely by linking them together with Bluetooth. That's pretty cool. Then my girlfriend wanted to get HBO for a while since it's being offered for a special price--and lo and behold, I can watch that on my PS4. But I can't on my Wii U.
You sit there and lambast the PS4 for "only" having Bloodborne. What did Nintendo put up against that this month? Super Mario 64? A damn port of an N64 game? Between now and August, Nintendo has two retail games coming to the Wii U. That's a good value?
Every month, PSN+ delivers something enticing. Every multiplatform game will be hitting the PS4 (and XBO), but they will all be missing the Wii U, except for the games for kids like Lego Jurassic Park or Skylanders. Tell me, is the Wii U getting Mortal Kombat X? Dark Souls 2 (Scholar of the first Sins)? Elder Scrolls Online? Mad Max? Witcher III?
I don't expect you to see the merits of something like the PS4 or XBO, when you don't play them, have no concept of what they offer overall, or anything in that regard. But the Wii U is only a better value if you are A) looking to spend the most money possible to play just games from Nintendo.
Again, if the Wii U is a better value--then explain why it is repeatedly being trounced by the "no value" PS4 and Xbox One. Because, ultimately, you're trying to paint Products A and B as "low value" compared to Product C, but Products A and B are repeatedly and substantially outselling Product C. In any normal situation, you would automatically note that there are serious issues with Product C and that it is probably not as good as Products A and B. You know, the way I'm betting you look upon the Windows Phone compared to Android and Apple phones.
Do you suddenly upend the equation when Product C is "Nintendo?" Because that is what you're doing.
It's not enough to just lazily claim "Wii U is better value," now you have to explain yourself in the face of the fact that your "better value" product is selling terribly against the others that you feel are inferior. Explain.
@firstnesfan
Maybe I like talking about the video game industry. And few things are more fascinating than the long-running downfall of Nintendo and the complete denial of it by the fans. It's like a cult leader being arrested for conning people out of millions of dollars and showing himself as a selfish monster--but the followers still think he's pretty great.
It was more a 'Not drowning but waving' sort of Direct. But hey, I'm not complaining since it at least confirms that SMT xFE is still alive (even though it was 'so that's what that is!'
I loved that Direct, keeping customers is always cheaper than acquiring new ones, which most people here don't seem to (or want to) understand. Of course it wasn't perfect, but asserting it was not awesome is a bit ridiculous. They gave release dates, info on some games they've announced already, showed a good indie reel, and made announcements for new video games and amiibo. Seemed like a good direct to me.
@rjejr You act like there are NO games on Wii U for those who don't have one. You realize potential buyers don't have any Wii U games, so they start from zero? So that means they'll have two years worth of content and great Nintendo games to play on the system. There is no reason not to buy one at this point unless you've convinced yourself it isn't worth it.
@KodyDawg Glitchy cartridges? All my N64 games work perfectly!
I've also emailed a letter of complaint to Nintendo regarding no longer being able to play DK64 in true 16:9 widescreen - a very disappointing oversight considering Rare included it as a standard feature in 1999.
@Jetset There are issues with your statement - how many console gamers have 'gaming' PCs? thus being able to play Call of Duty at 'console' settings? Certainly i currently do not have a system capable of playing COD above 'PS2' era settings. Very few in the wide scheme of things.
The PS4 is a mid range gaming PC in a compact media center box that offers excellent value for money. God of War, Uncharted, Last of Us, Bloodborne....I could go on about the exceptional cinematic and exclusive games Sony own and help develop.
@IronMan28 - "There is no reason not to buy one at this point"
I admit I didn't give any reasons NOT to buy a Wii U in post #198 (which I'm assuming you read and were replaying too), Wii U does have several good games worth playing, just 5 reasons not to buy 1 RIGHT NOW. But I still stand by those 5 reasons why Wii U sales won't be doing very well over the next few months, unless things change. Which could happen w/ a price cut or a Splatoon bundle. They're bundling enough Splatoon stuff in the UK, might as well bundle the game w/ the system, no?
And if you don't believe me that there are reasons systems sell well you can probably look at any hardware sales chart over time and see that either the release of a big game or a price cut will increase hardware sales.
If anybody asked me right now whether to buy a Wii U or not I'd tell them to wait until a Splatoon bundle or after E3. Companies like to announce sales cuts just before E3. If neither of those happen, maybe a new bundle or Black Friday price cut. But Nitnedo certainly doesn't seem to be making any effort to push Wii U sales over the next several months.
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