In the past 24 hours (at the time of writing) there has been excitable chatter around a 'leak' for a 3DS version of the GameCube classic Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, considered by some to be the best of the charming RPG series.
We'd love to believe it - originally shared on Reddit, a video for it was taken down, though the following image and GIF have been doing the rounds.
There are a few reasons why we think this 'leak' is fake, albeit no one can definitively say what Nintendo is working on at any given time. Rather like the recent rumoured Rayman Smash Bros. DLC it's very selective in what's visible; the video clip in that GIF shows a standard load-up and a Start screen lacking the intro from the GameCube original, while we're conveniently not shown the bottom screen. It doesn't progress into gameplay, and the supposed screengrab of game footage could quite easily be faked; it's a trend with these leaks that transpire to be fake that they tease, but in reality are dealing with the limitations of Photoshop or simply running a video file on a modded or homebrew system.
In addition, it's not typical for a legitimate build like this to be running on what appears to be a standard retail 3DS XL system. Development or demonstration units that run code are often seen at press events or on the Nintendo Treehouse streams, and typically they're smaller 'original' units with slightly different design and often a bespoke, chunky connector sticking out of the back. The fact this is a bog-standard 3DS XL - based on the pictures - only reinforces suspicion that this is a modder keen to get fans excited.
We may be wrong, but there have been enough of these fakes with similar approaches for us to be somewhat dismissive. That doesn't mean we can't talk about whether we want such a rumour to be true, however. In recent weeks we've actually been promoting the idea in Features that Nintendo should fill out the 3DS library with choice remakes and ports in the next couple of years. We listed five Nintendo 64 remasters we want on 3DS, and a separate list featuring GameCube and Wii games we'd like on New Nintendo 3DS. Our reasoning is simple - as Nintendo is under so much pressure to fill out the release schedules of its system itself, projects like these can be quicker, easier wins than all-new games.
Given the choice of long software droughts on Nintendo's systems or gap-fillers in the form of ports and remasters, we'd like the latter. Yet we want to know what you think, and particularly whether you'd like to see Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, as an example, on the 3DS. Is that a release you'd welcome with open arms, or would you be disappointed to see another remake / port on the way?
The rumour may be fake, but that doesn't mean it's not fun to talk it over. We need to amuse ourselves until Nintendo finally delivers its next Nintendo Direct, in any case - let us know what you think in the comments.
Update:
As we expected this was indeed fake, with the culprit owning up in a video. It had all the hallmarks of a fake, as we pointed out above, but at least there's now confirmation.
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I don't want it to be true. I want new games and not the same old games over and over again. Especially not on the 3DS because the Wii U is the Nintendo device with a lack of games. So if they really want to make even more remakes they should make them for Wii U (would be better as a VC title). But I still prefer new games.
I'm almost positive it's fake for many of the reasons you mentioned. I'd love it to be true, although I'd prefer it on Wii U. 360/PS3 HD collections would nicely fill out a release for sure. They can give them to port studios so no new games need to be sacrificed.
This game is by far my favourite in the series and I don't think Nintendo will go back to this now the series has been dumbed down so a re-release is maybe our only hope.
I'm all for it, particularly as TTYD would look amazing with the New 3DS 3D and I'm a big fan of the game (my Mario amiibo is called Gonzales ).
I wouldn't want to go down the PS4/Xbox road of nothing but remakes, but if it means something of the quality of the Majora's Mask or Wind Waker remakes once or twice a year, that sounds pretty damned good to me.
I would buy it in a heartbeat. Loved that game to bits.
GC games on 3ds and GBA games on WiiU... Meh.
It would kill the Wii U, again.
How can somebody make something so obviously fake, yet still get this much publicity?
I want it to be fake. Why you ask? Simply this should be on Wii U, not 3DS.
I thinl it's fake but if that were true I would buy it in a heartbeat. I loved the first Paper Mario on Nintendo 64 and never played TTYD. I also think handhelds are a much better fit for RPGs and Nintendo isn't doing as many remasters as the other companies so it wouldn't annoy me if they did this one
Would be both excited and disappointed if it was real (don't remotely think it is). excited that the best Paper Mario gets more recognition and for the chance to play it again, disappointed that it would be on 3DS instead or Wii U where it would look so much better.
I honestly hate remakes, I see them as a waste of time. If you want to play PMTTYD... just hook up your Gamecube and play it on there. No reason to waste 40 dollars for a stupid remake.
I honesty can't tell if it is real or fake, it's a lot harder nowadays to be sure on these sorts of things.
That said, I would love if it were true. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door is my 6th most beloved video game of all time. I absolutely loved this game, and I actually feel it would work very well on the 3DS, with good uses for the 3D affect and touch screen.
In an odd turn of events, I'd actually prefer if this were to be real rather than getting it on the Wii U, I just feel the 3D affect would look better than having it in HD.
I have a Gamecube, so even if this was real there would be no chance of me buying it.
Whether it is fake or not I still have this one and I would prefer a new one that is similar to this. They tried to evolve this series a little to much. I likd the wii version but it wasn't what I was expecting. I heard bad things about the sticker one. I need 60 coins to get it for free , but I have to buy a few game before January 20th or some explitive like that. I think I'm in remake overload. Xenoblade, and Majora. I like remakes and all but they are not getting my money on stuff I already own. Heck they are getting my money for Xenoblade(remake) and I own it. I wonder how many remakes they made on the 3ds already? I know it's a n3ds(same thing).
Rather want that Earthbound rumor to be true instead.
@Kirby_Fan_DL3 But if like me you don't have the original game, your only other option is to submit to high ebay prices. It's even more expensive than the Shulk amiibo!
@Gaeus I don't understand people like you. Yes, the Wii U did have a lack of games for the first two years of its life. But 2015 Wii U has a ridiculously good line up. 3DS has basically nothing this year.
No, I want new games. One or two remakes per console is more than enough.
I'd much rather a new installment than another remake. We've had so many remakes this gen as it is. Just release these games on the Eshop and we'll be happy.
I'd like to see this and Super Paper Mario on the Wii U
This gen seems like the remake gen. Are there no new ideas? Or gamers not supporting the few there are?
Anyway I want VC before remakes. At least they are cheaper.
I'd like Nintendo to remaster most of their N64 and GC games and forget about their VC versions and move on. Offer NES, SNES, GB, GBC, and GBA on both Wii U and N3DS as crossbuy. Release Wii VC on Wii U and DS VC on the N3DS if possible.
i want it to be fake im getting tired of hearing about remakes and on the 3ds like why not on the Wii U? those teams would rather be put into making a brand new game for the Wii U or help the other teams jeez >.>
i want my mario sunshine sequel dammit which i will never get -.-
I love 3DS remakes because I like the 3D. I like having classic games preserved to play for all of time in 3D- and this one would have been a prime candidate. I'm not big on remakes in general when they're games from 7th generation, but for games 10-15 years old and older, absolutely... Bring em on.
It doesn't show enough for me to be sold on its legitimacy, but I would love for it to be true as I've never played it (and I'm a huge fan of the paper mario series too!). I also feel this would look great on the 3DS in 3D. I am one of the few who loved Sticker Star, but regardless of whether you where one who liked it or not, I think we can all agree it looked great and the 3D effect did add a lot.
And in regards to everyone who says they don't want more ports or remasters, I get where you are coming from (I mean new games are always the better option), but I feel gamers should never decline/ reject the opportunity for more games and the inevitable increase of fans as a result. In certain cases, a remake or remaster (particularly of older games from previous console generations) could initiate a renewal for that series (take the Darksiders 2 next gen port that was recently announced, this may finally lead to the 3rd and 4th entries that long term fans have been waiting for.)
My point is, if developers feel there isn't enough support for a game or its franchise, or that they just aren't ready to make a new game yet, bringing a fan favourite or classic game to a new console generation and a new audience is often the best option. And put it this way, it may take longer for a new addition to you favourite series, but the added fan support that result from re-releases may just give them the push to continue and expand the series.
Anyway, my rant is complete for now
Apparently Paper Mario plays very well now on Dolphin VR.
Discussed here:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DolphinVRcullin/comments/2zk17x/gcpaper_mario_the_thousand_year_doorusa/
I love remakes, but I'd prefer other GameCube games. Chibi-Robo, Mario Sunshine, yadda-yadda-yadda.
I'd be satisfied if this was ported on the WiiU Virtual Console, along other (rare) GCN-classics (such as Fire Emblem).
@sinalefa
Personally, I'd prefer N64 and GC games to be remastered since they need visual upgrade and improvements on gameplay and controls. It's a win win for both Nintendo and the consumers. It's not like the N64 and GC have huge first/2nd party titles. Nintendo releasing VC versions won't give them much profit. Releasing the VC versions first and the remaster version later will just hurt sales. Players especially new ones won't be inclined to buy old games with dated graphics/gameplay. It could hurt their respective franchise too. Why not release a remaster and in the game itself you can access the original version?
It may be fake, but it seems like a very Nitneod thing to do - remake a home console game on a handheld (or vice versa) and release it for Christmas.
I'd much rather have a remake of Sunshine on Wii U, w/ the Gmaepad used in FPS for FLUDD like in Splatoon and Captain Toad (which is an obvious homage to the rollercoaster balloon shooting level in Sunshine) but since Nintnedo and I are never on the same page this seems much more likely to be true.
And Nitnedo has been so slow in coming out w/ a new Nintnedo Direct 'm already looking forward to E3 so we can hear some new gaming news for the holidays.
@SpriteMaster If you are a huge fan of the series, then you owe it to yourself to track down a copy of this game. It's fantastic.
I would be down for a 3D remake of this game or the first in the series from the N64. I was disappointed when Sticker Star dropped the true RPG elements that made the first two games fun!
@JaxonH
I love Nintendo remakes mainly because it uses motion/gyro control aiming along with the visual upgrade. I don't care if it's for the Wii U or 3DS. I can't stand using R Stick since going full PC after the SNES, Megadrive and PSOne days.
@Gobelee Haha yeah, if only I didn't have a massive backlog of games and I had a gamecube, I would try and track down a copy. Am I right in thinking the wii plays gamecube games??? Either way a remake would be amazing, and likely my best chance of playing it.
I really want a remake of this game since I've never played it but there's too much evidence it's fake...
I really doubt it's real. But I'd love for it to be
If Sony can get away with re releasing game that are a barely a year old on their console for near full price and people defend them ("Oh this is a good thing because now people who didn't have a PS3 can get it on the PS4"), I don't see why Nintendo shouldn't be able to do remasters of games that are 2 generations old already.
Would still buy it in a heartbeat.
It's by far, and I mean BY FAR, the best Paper Mario game, so why not.
@Operative
On the other hand, Sony has HD trilogies of many of their PS2 era games.
@Captain_Gonru - I'm just still mad I haven't had a chance to play Luigi's Mansion 2 yet. I bought a Gamecube to play the first game (among others) and really enjoyed it, except for the completely unbeatable final boss. Making a sequel on Wii U w/ first person view - for the vacuum - on the Gamepad just seemed like such a natural fit. Instead we got Zombie U.
Oh, my new prediction is an ND next Tuesday b/c I have to bring my car in for another recall so I'll be gone most of the day. So expect 1 Tuesday morning
Being that I never got to play TTYD, a remake/port would be welcome. Instead of arguing whether it should be a handheld or home console I submit this: It'd be another nice experiment in cross buy. In one of two ways - Buy on the system of choice and get the other one for free, or for a discount if they want some sort of ROI for developing for both systems. And darnit, make it GC adapter compatible!
@Grumblevolcano eBay prices aren't really that high, unless you're looking for a sealed or perhaps flawless copy. A "good" condition copy you can fetch between 30-70 depending on condition I'm assuming.
@JaxonH that's the one thing I can appreicate about Nintendo, their remakes are at least 2 generations old. Or at the very least if it is a last gen title, it's ported to 3DS as opposed to the Wii U.
I'D SO BUY THIS GAME AGAIN IF ITS TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!! !
One of my Favorites!
@rjejr I feel like you need to be a part of Nintendo's board or something. The ideas that flow from your mind... Perfection.
Remakes make Nintendo money, allow new fans to experience old games, and are generally better versions of the original. Why is this so bad?
As much as I would love playing this game again on my New 3DS XL, I would prefer playing it on my Wii U. Some console games are meant to stay console games...
Love this series; the first I probably love best. Played TTYD twice through so I wouldn't be terribly excited for this. Probably my most dreamed-of Wii U game, aside from an open-world 3D Mario platformer, is a follow-up to the first two Paper Mario's. Partners, badges, chapters, and a pit of 450 trials!
I've been playing Sticker Star the last few days, and it's been so utterly disappointing, aggravating and flat out uninteresting that it has brought me physical pain. Since I never got TTYD when it was relevant, and seeing how rare the original has become, I would be buying a 3DS remake Day One, full price, without a doubt. Or even better, a double pack with the first one, having the two best ones in one cartridgw would be a dream come true, especially after the disaster called Sticker Star. I just want to have a decent Paper Mario on a handheld next to Dream Team Bros.
It's a shame that this thing is most likely fake, though. A huge shame.
This is the 3DS's equivalent to the rumor of the N64 Paper Mario being ported to DS.
@TingLz
Wow, I'll copy this for future TLDR version.
if the 3ds is capable of ttyd, why did we get sticker star
This video has 'fake' written all over it. It even zooms out enough to where you'd expect to see some of the bottom screen but it isn't there.
But... seeing as the DS got Mario 64, couldn't we get Sunshine for 3DS? Need some more C-Stick games.
Would rather have the original get remastered on either system since that game really needs it. TTYD graphics are timeless and should just be as a VC game for the Wii U. Sure an HD remake would be nice, but doesn't seem needed.
@Sir_JBizzle - Thanks, I could use a job. Commute to Japan from NY could be a problem though. Maybe if Russia adds an off-ramp to that highway?
Would love to see this getting a remake, don't care whether it's for 3DS or Wii U (but Wii U would be slightly higher preferred). I just need something to wash away the bad taste that Sticker Star left!
@Nanamine
We have to see which games will really be released this year. I still don't belive on a 2015 release for Zelda and Star Fox. The 3DS has a lot of games and most gamers don't have played all the good interesting games. The Wii U need more games and different games too. There is no point of it being a 3DS remake besides the wider audience (from a financial point of view). But as a gamer? No.
And they just need to bring those games as a VC title. So arguments like "the original is too expensive, so the remake is a good thing" is pretty much pointless.
They could drunkenly port it and it would still be better than Sticker Star.
@rjejr I applied for a job with them fairly recently...
I'd prefer Nintendo to release a Paper Mario Trilogy HD remaster on the Wii U, but if TTYD on the 3DS rumor is true, I am stoked.
Yes please. It's the one Paper Mario game I haven't played.
This was one of my favourites on the GameCube, but I don't think I'd want to play through it again on the 3DS really. I'd happily welcome a new entry in the series though.
@Grumblevolcano I've just looked at both the U.S. and UK Ebay, and I've seen copies sell for 20 dollars, which is a good price considering that a 3D remake would sell for 40.
As a massive Paper Mario fan, I could care less if it was true.
I would sooooo buy this. Best Paper Mario ever.
@Gaeus 3DS is definently the one currntly lackign games. Not WiiU. Plus a "Remake" Doesnt take away from new games.
Wouldn't a remake of the original Paper Mario 64 make far more sense? Before any remake of TTYD, anyway.
Best game of all time imo, but the graphics have aged so well, so I'd rather have the original remade
Big question, why 3DS? The Wii U needs it more than the 3DS right now.
Oh crap this is gonna be real,cause Nintendo like remaking games for the 3DS.Cause for some reason the New 3DS is the system for remakes! Ugh god i hate you Nintendo.
Hardly anyone has played the fantastic and way underrated 3DS Paper Mario. Play that one, people!
The only paper Mario I played was N64, I own the thousand year door and the Wii paper Mario! Not sure which one is considered the best but if they remastered one or all of then I would defiantly buy. Paper Mario would be great on 3ds!
I think that is the only Paper Mario that I really enjoyed, but I don't know if I would want to see Nintendo plundering another old game for handheld sales, especially not to re-release at full price (even if they update it some).
@Kirby_Fan_DL3 Not everyone owns a Gamecube console. How am I going to hook up my old Gamecube to play it when I never owned one? Either remaking it or porting it to the VC would be my best chance of playing it.
There is also the fact that my tv is very small, dialogue cannot be read from it across my room unless it has enormous font. Dialogue from NES games are more readable on my tv than more recent games, with the font size and the text boxes they used for those old games. Seriously, with the font size that more recent games uses, I absolutely need to be very close to the tv in order to read it. This game needs to either be on a handheld system or it needs to be displayed on the Wii U gamepad in order for me to appreciate it at all.
This and the N64 original could use a remaster on the 3DS or Wii U, plus they are 2 of my favorite turn-based RPG games so yes I'd love it if it was true.
It's fake, similar situation as Rayman in Smash where the creator confirms it's fake.
http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=31039.msg1694624#msg1694624
I really like Thousand Year Door, but I'm not sure I'd play it again just because it was in 3D. They would have to add something to make it better, like a new chapter, or a new partner, or something.
Also, keep Vivian a physical male that wants to be a girl, this isn't about some SJW crap, I just don't like material being censored and changed from the original work.
Any excuse to play this gem again! One of my favourite GameCube titles.
I never got to play this one before, and every time I tried ordering it online (usually through retailers) I'd get an email a few days later saying they're out of stock.
I have the worst luck with Gamecube Classics.
Day one purchase if it were to happen.
Do it, Nintendo.
It's a great game and it's been sadly unavailable to the public for far too long.
I know this is unlikely and I usually would prefer they make a new title instead of a remake but Nintendo seems incapable of making a proper Paper Mario, since SPM was only mediocre and Sticker Star was laughable. This would be preferable to any sort of Sticker Star sequel.
I dream of a day when all Nintendo games run on similar architecture and their games will forever be playable. Imagine being able to play any game from any system. Honestly backwards compatibility is a major reason I love my 3ds and wii U so much. I missed out on the ds and wii era. I wish I had the GameCube library available to me.
I love this game, but I would prefer a remake of the N64 Paper Mario than a port of TTYD for the 3DS. What I REALLY want, is a new Paper Mario for the Wii U in the mold of the first two. Those games are so freaking amazing. I don't think it's happening soon though, Intelligent Systems is probably busy with the next Fire Emblem.
I only want the original Paper Mario to be remade on 3DS with TTYD elements and graphics. PM64, TTYD and SPM should be remade on Wii U in HD and all problems like backtracking in Ch 4 in TTYD and gameplay improvements to the original.
Also want Mario Party 1-3 in HD or 3D.
I'm very hesitant to think this is real. But heaven knows I'd love Nintendo to hand a free copy of this over to those who purchased the "Paper Mario In-name-only" game Sticker Star. Or as a final reward for Club Nintendo. A man can dream...
I'd rather they just released it on the Eshop in some form rather than a remake tbh. Graphically it still holds up without fiddling with it and paying for some 3d that wouldn't really add much to the game seems kinda pointless.
A new title that isn't a pile of crap like Sticker Star would be even better though.
As much as I don't want to get my hopes up.... I really want this remake. TTYD is one of my favorite games ever and I'd love to revisit it in 3D.
We want more we want more we want more. The WII U need a new Paper Mario game. It will help them a lot. We love RPG
I absolutely loved this game, but I think I'd prefer a proper sequel. The Wii game didn't focus enough on badges and RPG elements for me.
Rawk Hawk rocks!
@JWFinnegan @DarthNocturnal I haven't really looked at it like that...
I'm pretty pissed about it being fake, I never got to play TTYD.
I already own it on GameCube so nope, I don't really need it to be true.
We had so many Mario RPGs on 3DS now we don't need another one. Now for Wii U, that would be great, not a Thousand Year Door remake or anything but a new Super Mario RPG or Paper Mario (not Super Paper Mario) sequel in HD would be awesome.
Nintendo and leaks don't often go hand in hand. I'd love if it was true because this was a super fun game and would definitely play again, even though I still own the disc and have my Wii still in use.
I want to be in the "enough remakes!" club but the games that get remade are ones I never played and a remake means I'm getting the best version of the game available so...
No. Just rerelease your old games on VC. The only games that need remade are the ones that are eyesores now like the N64 Zeldas. Masterpieces, but nearly unlookable now that your eyes have been spoiled by HD graphics. I also believe a game needs to be at least 10 years old before remade. None of that crap Sony is pulling on PS4, please.
But really, why remake TTYD? Just put it on WiiU VC and make a new, true Paper Mario. I'd much rather have a new masterpiece than an old one I've already beat twice.
@LoveSugoi
But without a remake there is just one version which is the best version.
There just need to release it as a VC title and you will get the best version.
YES YES YES!!!!!
I want so bad.
Picked this up on the GC a couple of months back, I never understood where my original copy back in the GC era got to. I managed to pick it up for ÂŁ35 in an Ebay auction so it's about the price of a full price game nowadays if you're lucky.
Anyone who hasn't played this Paper Mario and liked the N64 one, you MUST play it.
The N64 Paper Mario is still on the Wii N64 VC right now, it's the only reason I got to play it, it was far cheaper than picking up the N64 cartridge.
I've bought Sticker Star on 3DS just this week, I know it's going to be a disappointing game from what I read as no one has said anything good about it but I'm going to make it my goal to finish that game. Make of that what you will lol.
I'd much rather have a new, actually good Paper Mario instead. But if they've decided to stop making them, then yes, by all means, do a remake rather than repeating what happened with Sticker Star.
I don't care if it's fake cause the 3DS doesn't need more games, make a Paper Mario game (a true paper mario game, not like super paper mario) for the Wii U...the Wii U needs more games, Nintendo!!!
I'd much rather prefer they made a new Paper Mario for Wii U, but if that wasn't the way to go for some reason, then I'd still feel TTYD is more deserving to be on Wii U than 3DS.
I'd buy it. Never finished it and lent it out and never got it back!
I haven't played the original so a 3D remake would be most welcome.
I rather would have a new, big scale Paper Mario (a proper rpg) on the Wii u!
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