Rumour: Rayman Could be Planned as DLC in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS

Interesting. Would be nice to play as rayman.

But probably fake, unless footage of playing him ingame video is done.

I wonder if the people who datamined the game found anything about future DLC?

Also, that mewtwo render looks...weird...

I doubt this is real. But, wouldn't mind Rayman being in Smash.

Why are you even reporting this obvious fake? -_- EDIT: Well maybe it's not that obvious. It does look pretty good, but the lack of Mobus' voice is suspicious.
I would've been less skeptical if the player in the video actually selected Rayman and we heard Xander Mobus' distinctive voice say Rayman.

I don't think it's real, who ever filmed it, didn't select the character for proof and didn't even select mewtwo.

Okay, either this is real...or whoever made it is rather talented. The only thing that'd make me completely convinced is if he actually selected Rayman.

Fake, but I would love to play as Rayman in Smash.

I really want this to be real, even though the chances seem slim

Is the Rayman trophy a western exclusive by any chance? It'd be kinda neat to get a western exclusive character and Japan could get Sukapon. Either that or they could be alt costumes.

@C-Olimar "ovbious fake"

http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2vwxza/some_of_my_rayman_leak_findings/

A beep noise plays when the guy tried selecting Rayman. Meaning it wouldn't let the guy select him.

Looks pretty convincing, though I'm still not sure...

GOSHDARNED HACKERS!!!!

Would be cool if real.

Even if this is fake, I do wonder why in the world they put Rayman trophies in the game. Seems kind of random. It's not like he's a Nintendo character. Solid Snake having a Wii U trophy makes more sense than Rayman.

Too much hype!

meh,

The character seems to be still locked, as you can clearly hear the "denied" sound in the video. Not saying this is %100 true, but it looks really convincing at the very least. Theres also a 3DS version CSS with Rayman and Mewtwo floating around too.

@CapeSmash Hey, I missed that. Other than the no selection it's either a great fake or real. I'm sitting on the fence for this one

I'll be disappointed if he is a playable character particularly because this will be yet another surprise reveal ruined because of hackers. I miss the times before this like when everyone was expecting Shulk to be revealed yet we got Robin and Lucina instead.

I kinda believe it i mean leaks of other characters were shown and they came out to be true

Probably fake, but i'd enjoy playing as Rayman in Smash Bros.

@Grumblevolcano Damn leakers...imagine how much more surprised I would be to see Dr. Mario come back WITHOUT the ESRB leak...immediately followed with extreme disappointment to see that Lucas, the Ice Climbers and Wolf didn't.

The big question is how did this happen?

Why bother including Rayman at this point? Is Ubi even pretending to support Nintendo anymore?

Let's be honest, if Rayman will ever be announced for smash then it will be released almost an year after the official DLC's release date and will be added at the same time at the roster of Playstation All-Stars

WHEN THE HECK IS SAKURAI'S WILD RIDE GOING TO END?!

@EvisceratorX Congradulations on getting to write for NL! I've seen you on NL for a long time and have always liked your avatar.

Here is another screenshot you didn't list. Its of the 3DS character selection screen with Mewtwo and Rayman.

http://imgur.com/7CfLesA

Fakest thing I've ever seen

If any of Ubisoft's character was to join the ranks of Smash, it would be Rayman, hands down. And I could bet his moveset would be pretty cool, considering the lack of limbs.

That said, I dont think Rayman necessarily deserves to be part of the roster. Between Ubisoft and Nintendo's relationship, and the barely-there legacy/history of Rayman (who was pushed aside in favor of the Rabbids for a good while) , I dont see how he can share the same screen as Sonic, Megaman, and Pacman. I'd say Bomberman deserves a spot before Rayman ever does. </spiel>

@NintendoFan64 My thinking was towards the 50 fact Direct revealing Bowser Jr. Sure Duck Hunt (Duo)'s reveal was significantly ruined by the ESRB leak but the reveal of Duck Hunt (NES) for Wii U VC straight after still led to the element of surprise.

@DTFaux I'd say more SEGA characters deserves spots before any other 3rd party. Give the fans Knuckles!

Totally real, imagine how hard it would be to fake a video, screen shots and the 3DS version too!!!

Don't get me wrong, I would love Rayman as DLC in Smash, but bring back Ice Climbers first! The "new" 3DS just came out with better processing power, so it can definitely handle the dual character combo. On another note, I can't wait for Mewtwo, and keep bringing more DLC like in Mario Kart 8! I'll gladly pay for it! I hope Nintendo of Anywhere reads this.

This looks real on soo many levels. There isn't a point to having gameplay since it so obviously real (not like he can actually play as him because the character makes the sound when you can't use something in the menu when you try to play as him). Let the hype train for Rayman begin!

I was actually thinking this the other day, after I bought Rayman Legends, because it made me think about Rayman 2 on N64, Rayman's trophy in Super Smash Bros, and how Nintendo published Rayman in Japan. There's just as much reason to put him in Smash Bros. for Ubisoft, as it is for Capcom, Sega, and Namco to put Mega Man, Sonic, and Pac-Man in the game.

There are also TV shows for some of these characters, so that connects those who watch those shows into the games.

@Funbunz played Just Dance and Petz lately?

@drewb0203 XD

http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2vwxza/some_of_my_rayman_leak_findings/

Also explain the beep noise.

It would be interesting to be sure and his moveset options make him a unique option for a fighter. Now whether this is real or fake, remains to be seen, but I AM silently optimistic...

It's real, the video's sound proves it because of the sound error

If they do DLC, I really hope Wolf and Lucas make a comeback.

As for third-party characters, I want to see Simon Belmont become a DLC character!

@NintendoFan64 And we heard the announcer too.

On another note, everyone also disbelieved that the ESRB leak was real, and everything about it was real.

GAAAH! I do hope this is true! I was that one guy who was vouching for Rayman's inclusion since the Brawl days, so this would be my all my wildest middle school dreams coming true!

If this is faked, it's the most authentic looking fake I've ever seen for smash. It's obviously not a photoshop, a hacker would've had to get into the game's code to put this in.

@Knuckles
Thanks, man! Technically, I don't really "work" here, I just enjoy writing about Nintendo and the industry.

Sigh...
That video seems so real, but why the beep when trying to select Rayman? If he was really 'locked' I don't think he would be there in the first place. I would love this, but I think I need to see a gameplay reveal trailer before I believe anything. I'd say it's an expertly designed... fake.

To the people saying this is fake, you are the same exact fangirls that said bowser jr and duck hunt were fake. We all know this is real and we will be playing as rayman in a couple of months, so everybody shut up and bask in the glory that is RAYMAN.

I highly doubt this is real, but it would be quite interesting to play as Rayman.

Show me some gameplay and I'll believe it... maybe.

Nope. Fake. Even it wasn't, I won't be buying anything that Ubisoft might see a cent from.

Seems very legit.

Show me gameplay, then you'll convince me. Otherwise, calling fakery.

That Mewtwo in the character select screen does not look like it fits with the other characters. I do not want Rayman in the game, even as DLC.

The render's pose recreates his pose in the cover art of Rayman 1.

That one little detail is the kind of little touch that makes me hope this is the real deal.

Don't really care either way but I wouldn't be surprised. The only additions I want to see are Bayonetta and the Squid kids.

That's fine if Rayman is playable, but I'm still waiting for Nintendo to announce the release date for the Mewtwo DLC.

I tried Rayman for the Wii... Couldn't see the appeal at all. And yeah, I can think of plenty of characters that deserve the spot more than Rayman.

Like I said on Youtube and on the Smash Wii U thread, normally I'd just say fake and be done with it. But, I kinda said that about the Jr. and Shulk video, and look what happened there. lol

If a Direct pops up at some point I can see a new Smash reveal trailer happening for Rayman. (with Mewtwo appearing in it just to show him off as well)

With this possible DLC could we also see a Rabbids assist trophy? That would be great, along with a Rayman stage based on Legends.

If the series icon for Rayman doesn't give it away, the lack of space between Mewtwo's and Rayman's portraits does.

@Sergio151 Surely Nintendo and Gamestop possibly doing some dodgy deal recreating what happened 5 years ago would be a bigger concern in terms of wanting to play Xenoblade Chronicles 3D.

@Baker1000
Idk, to me Solid Snake makes much less sense than Rayman. I mean, he appeared in one game on Nintendo hardware 15 years ago on the GameCube. Rayman, on the other hand, has been on the Wii, Wii U and 3DS with multiple games (Rayman Origins, Rayman 3D, Rayman Legends)- even the GBC version of the original is available on Virtual Console. And he fits the mold of Nintendo mascots much better than Snake ever did.

yeah great idea sakurai give ubisoft more advertising cuz they sure love you guys

Just buy Ubisoft Montpelier already, Nintendo...

Rayman doesn't deserve to be in the Super Smash Bros. games. Period. It's bad enough that the games contain a few trophies from the Rayman franchise.

Considering Ubisoft's appalling, seemingly contemptuous support of the Wii U, I would not want Nintendo to give Ubisoft any further undeserved publicity, not until Ubisoft gets their act together and adequately supports the system. Just yesterday I noticed a few new Ubisoft games on PS4, including a Monopoly Collection and Rabbids Invasion. They bothered to port Watch_dogs to Wii U but not these? Idiots.

Oh, I so cannot wait to get a Rayman amiibo.

@Sergio151
I like the blue color best too tbh. But I will say this- the black looks super sexy once you see it in person. It's actually more of a charcoal silver, with a micro-pattern that really pops. I assume the red one actually looks pretty good too now that I've seen the black. Still, that blue one would have been nice...

Cool, but I much rather see Wolf and Snake DLC.

Sooo... it has begun

@sillygostly i don't get why people are saying Rayman doesn't deserve to be in this game because of Ubisoft. He's a gaming icon almost to the same level of status to the 4 in this game. If you don't like him in then don't get him

RayMan would make a great addition despite Nintendo and Ubisoft's Relationship. His side smash could be if charging up his punch like in the games, or he could hover like peach with his ray copter. The possibilities are endless, technically they are limited, BUT LET ME DREAM

@Lizuka i didn't say on par i said "almost" and you can't just say it's fake right away people are already arguing both sides. What do you have against Rayman? (Not counting the company)

Would be a nice inclusion, but I would be more excited if Konami got Sparkster or Goemon in Smash.

Now if we could just get Rabbids in smash too....
Heh, I'm just kidding. But I'm really surprised that it appears to be a 3rd party character as DLC. You'd think if they planned for Rayman to be in the game, they'd make a cool reveal trailer and put him in the full game.
This looks like a really, really well-edited fake... or the real thing.

He would make an interesting addition. I'm hoping that he would be in a DLC pack like they have done with MK8 or Hyrule Warriors

@WaveBoy There are no such thing as "character slots". I am starting to hate when people say that word.

@Mega719 Oh, right. So they are still pretending to support Nintendo. Where did I put my wallet??!!!? Must buy all their shovelware or they won't make more!

@Funbunz may you tell what they released on Wii U that counts as "shovelware" which means a game so poorly programmed it isn't playable. Which Watch Dogs is not. And as i told Lizuka you can't count the company in determining whether a character deserves to be in

His eyebrows gross me out

@TossedLlama only except he isn't the face of Capcom and isn't what feels the most fitting in a Nintendo cross over. I would like him in the next game but now is not the time

I'll settle for Simon Belmont instead of Rayman. A castlevania style level in smash bros would be awesome! Imagine being attacked by flying medusa heads or falling down the stairs lol

@WaveBoy Agreed, I'd prefer a retro-styled Simon.

@Hungry-Bear Castlevania isn't relevant with Nintendo anymore. All we got in recent games is Mirror of Fate, the series is on life support. Bomberman fits in more

please be real please be real pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaase be real

@Mega719 It would be the best game ever if Bomberman got in.

As much as I love rayman to be in smash, its most likely not real.

I do hope atleast rayman doesn't look so stupid like in origins and legends but the rayman look like the original trilogy.

I just noticed something. Rayman's eye pupils... seem to close to each other; it's like as if the left one is out of place. That's just me, though...

Good, now add bayonetta.

@VeeFlamesNL that's what people said about the Wario render

@MortalKombat2007

lol

Nice, but I really wanted Bomberman first >_<

The video has been removed by the user. Awesome.

Wow, this looks extremely real, and I think Rayman would make a really good character in Smash Bros. I'm taking this with some salt, so I really can't say whether I think it's real or not.

Stoked.

Rayman as an actual playable character could have a great number of possibilities.The only thing surrounding character DLC that I could see as controversial withing the fan community is the price.2 or 3 dollars sounds like a decent price for one character,and character packs could have a somewhat discounted price compared to buying each character individually.

So Ubisoft gives us this, not to shabby.

Rayman would be great, but they still need to make Bonk a roster member! The characters they could add are endless.

even if it's not fake I'd rather see Bayonetta as a DLC character over Rayman

Rayman would make a good addition to the roster. We will see in the coming months.

Ha! That's pretty cool. The video was taken down, so that might be an indicator.

Hope this is real!

In every interview, Sakurai talks about how difficult it is to develop a Smash game. "It takes over a year to create a character." "I work nights and weekends to get it done." There are already a ton of characters, and I think the game is great right now.

Video removed? Suspicious. If Smash DLC is on the horizon, I wouldn't be against adding Rayman to the roster. Simon Belmont would be good as well. Having the full Captain N team in the game would be sweet.

Hmmmmm... I really can't tell if this is fake. If so, it looks really legit.

I remember when so many people called bull on the leak that turned out to be real. "Duck Hunt Dog? Puh-LEASE. Fake."

... I would like Rayman, personally.

@omalleycat215 Not only do I dig your avatar and handle, but YES, Simon Belmont has always been one of my most wanted!
(Off-topic and just a suggestion: you might wanna anticipate "The Legacy Collection: The Aristocats" coming this August.)

Hey, if it's real then I'm all for it. Rayman is one of my favorite game series.

Ew, where's Snake?

The ride never ends.

Likely fake. Snake, Simon Belmont, and Bomberman deserve it FAR more than Rayman does. That being said, that decision is none of ours. That's up to Sakurai and the dev team. If he wants Rayman in Smash, that's his choice.

The bottom two rows of the SSB4 is centered in such a way that leaves room for four character slots. Take a real good look at it

i really doubt someone took smash data and hacked it to the point that they retooled the select screen that perfectly with the game only being out 3 months.
or am I being naive?

@IceClimbers >deserve

lol here we have another case of biased judgement of people wanting their character in.

More people know Rayman than Simon Belmont.

Well I don't mind Rayman as long as it's included on the Mewtwo DLC promo for buying both versions of Smash. Belmont is on my top list as DLC though. And I agree with some commenters here that Snake doesn't feel right being on Smash. Rayman fits in by a mile.

@Gridatttack It's my opinion. Read my full comment. I said that which characters are able to get in is not my decision. That decision belongs with Sakurai.

@IceClimbers Bomberman is dead and forever will be dead, sadly.

Now that I'm on my PC, that render looks pretty legit. It has that "clean" look to it like the rest of the renders. Plus that video footage puts stock in it being real. I think it might be legit.

Sakurai will have to nerf Rayman - he'll be broken on release! .... I'll leave now.

@Chaozrush21 Don't remind me.....

Hmmm. The video is down. Guess the Nintendo ninjas were too much.

After what Ubisoft did with Nintendo (Rayman Legends, Watch Dogs, completed but unreleased game), I don't think any Ubisoft character deserves be in Smash Bros...

A trophy? Fine. A playable character? Nope, there are better 'exclusives' that can be added

I strongly doubt that Snake will ever appear again in Super Smash Bros.; at least not as a fighter. There were two Metal Gear Solid games released recently, and neither of them were released on Wii U. You'd think that the smart thing to do would be to support Nintendo's system, while in return getting virtually free advertising via Super Smash Bros. across both the Wii U and 3DS.

Konami screwed over Nintendo's fanbase by only porting Solid Snake for 3DS, and meanwhile, for the same price, provided a full trilogy for the other platforms, including Vita.

Cool. If it wouldn't have been for those thick eyebrows I would have called it fake. But the render looks great and original. Would love to play as Rayman.

Something tells me Sakurai finds a company's poor treatment of a platform to be irrelevant to whether a character should be in Smash or not. So Ubisoft and Konami screwing over Nintendo's fanbase has no effect on Rayman or Snake being in Smash. Business politics shouldn't affect creativity and the director's vision.

Taking the video down makes it seem even more interesting.

Its certainly intriguing. I can't believe that Nintendo would do a big update to the game to enable DLC and then just give us Mewtwo. Also, the Rayman trophy is kind of a give-away, isn't it? It means there's already a deal in place for Rayman to feature in the game. It would certainly give the Rayman series a sales boost and he would be a good fit for the game. Was playing Brawl last night and it struck me how out of place Snake seemed

Poor Rayman. He's getting the brunt of ire when it should be directed to Ubisoft and not him.

@Mega719 I suppose you and I may have a difference of opinion on what constitutes shovelware. For me, it's any game that has it's redeeming qualities too overshadowed by it's flaws. Poor graphics, bad gameplay, strange or ugly art design, stuff that looks rushed and/or is a buggy mess - I won't waste my time or money on it. And I never meant to imply that all of Ubi's games are bad. Zombie U and Rayman were fine. Child of Light looks pretty cool, too. I'd probably buy that game if I weren't boycotting Ubisoft!

I was mostly referring to the recent info about the unreleased Know Your Friends, and any pet sim with "Z" at the end of the title. I also include as shovelware most dancing, party, and/or fitness games. Ubi churns these out quite frequently. And while those might not be shovelware in your book, they certainly are in mine. Also, I believe that a late, gimped, overpriced and inferior port of a previously released game should be considered as shovelware since you can easily buy the better version.

Secondly, I must respectfully disagree with your stance on whether or not a character should be included based on the company who owns the character. Smash is a very high profile place to have your character showcased. How many people have you played Smash with who had never heard of Fire Emblem or Xenoblade? Heck, my own kids had no idea who Duck Hunt was, and they were excited to try that game. ("Dad, this game kinda sucks...") Yeah, it kind of does, now. But back in my day...

Anyway, my point is that Nintendo has absolutely no reason to include anyone who is not a good business partner, and they typically don't. Otherwise, what happened to Solid Snake? Didn't Nintendo and Konami's relationship cool off a few years ago, like right after the mess that was the 3ds launch? I don't see any characters from EA. Or Square Enix. Lots of big names from big companies have always been MIA. Where is Simon Belmont? What about characters from Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy? I think a Moogle would be an awesome fighter! Sephiroth could be fun, too. But it's just not in Nintendo's interests to make that happen, whether we like it or not.

There are plenty of fighters not included, and many of them would be much better than Rayman anyway. But you can look on the bright side- maybe Nintendo will throw Rayman in, Ubi will be super happy, and then eventually you can get Watchdogs 2 at some point after all the other platforms have had it. You'll have to let me know if it's good, because I will probably still be boycotting Ubisoft.

I'm definitely hoping that this is true since I loved the old Rayman games, and I can imagine his moves could be very interesting. His charged up punch could be very fun to use. His helicopter hair would be a great recovery.

A) The video has been removed from YouTube BY THE ORIGINAL UPLOADER
B) Mewtwo's render looks nothing like the model we've already seen, and considering they also use that model for all promotion, it's unlikely we'll see another model in the final version
C) Sonic: Insanely high fan request, Sega and Nintendo have becomen friends. Mega Man: Rich history on Nintendo and huge fan favourite. Pac-Man: insanely well-known and partnership with Bandai Namco. Snake: Hideo Kojima begged Sakurai on his knees for his inclusion. Why would they ever add Rayman? I thought Nintendo and Ubisoft were on (VERY) shaky ground?
This is fake, it's definitely fake. I honestly don't really care about Rayman in Smash anyway. If he was DLC, I would buy it, but I can live without it.

Not to mention, if they really are giving every Smash character an amiibo, just imagine what his would look like. Stands, stands everywhere!

@Poketendo We only know on disc characters are getting an amiibo, that said Nintendo would be stupid not to create a Mewtwo amiibo especially as in current times Pokémon seems even more relevant to gaming than Mario.

@YorkshireNed
Based on what you said, so is a number of other characters such as Wonder Red/Blue. There are even one or two Wonderful 101 songs, I don't think just there being a trophy confirms anything.

I've got it! The reason that Rayman couldn't be selected is the same as MK8 DLC! He's a placeholder, appearing in a new update, which comes with the shop etc. His splash screen appears in either the shop or when you buy him.

Also, it'd make sense for Mewtwo to have a new model, too. Remember when they said he was early in development? His model must have changed by now (even slightly).

Wow, this has got me excited. The hype train never stops!

@Grumblevolcano I know, I was joking
But still, I do agree a Mewtwo amiibo would be awesome. Think about it. Perhaps you could download the Mewtwo DLC for free if you buy his amiibo? That would be a great promotion!

@Inkling I know they said he was early in development, but think about it. They presented a brand new HD model of Mewtwo, and another model for the 3DS version. That was a completely unique model, which looked like it was almost, if not completely done. Why would they go through all the trouble of creating a new model, then use it in all the Mewtwo DLC promotion, only to then create a new model (which looks worse in my opinion). It just doesn't make any sense to do, and I don't think they did.

@VeeFlamesNL Well, like I say, they're not going to do an update just for MewTwo. Likeliest suspects are going to be found in the trophy list

I think I want to point out that very soon after the video/images, I saw one of BARBIE on the character select screen of Smash that also looked convincing (very much like that still of Rayman on the select screen actually). People really need to take this with a grain of salt instead of looking for justifications for it to be real ('oh, he can't be selected because 'x', ''there was a trophy!') because clearly it can be faked.

i think there is a possibility of him being real either that or more characters will be announce i get the feeling they will pill a mario kart 8 dlc move it turned out good there so why not?

I would be cool with this. If it is fake, some people really need to find better use of their time.

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Rayman is my childhood hero! So I would love him to come to smash!

If they put rayman in before PLOK I think I'll throw my wii u in front of a bus. PLOK is much more nintendo than rayman. Work things out with the Pickfords already!

This is fake. I doubt the video would have convinced me otherwise.

Didn't believe it until I saw the video and video of a 3DS version done the same way. This is legit, and pretty much the same way Duck Hunt and Bowser Jr were leaked. And now the video is down. Yep.... it's real.

@Vash_Visionz There was a video of the 3DS version?

@VeeFlamesNL Mario Kart 8 has the faces of the unreleased DLC characters on the roster, but doesn't allowed you to pick them, and makes a noise similar to the one made in the video when the guy tries to pick Rayman.

@Inkling There was. It was actually the first one I saw since it was floating around SmashBoards. It's gone along with the Wii U one now though.

Not sure how I feel about Rayman being entered into the games. But, I guess... more the merrier?

@Vash_Visionz Nah. A window pops up telling you the DLC details.
Exactly what should have happened in this video. It's not like the Rayman character icon is faded out, it's as bright as the others, so a beep wouldn't make sense.
EDIT: A 3DS video? Where?

Not sure if it's legitimate, but if it's a fake a decent amount of effort was put forward into it.

It would certainly be an interesting character with some creative hurtboxes.
Think of it, his normal attacks would kinda work like Falcos shield kick and Helicopter Hair with Up-B would be a given

@Funbunz Smash is played more with older gamers, even if they haven't played any Fire Emblem games they would know if they played another Smash game. Rayman is a series that has been here since the 90s and because it continued it's audience not only with sequels but spin offs it is well know by the younger and other audience. I don't see why people still think Simon fits in this series he may have been the golden franchise on the NES but the series is barely with Nintendo anymore and shifted its audience to Mature gamers forever dooming the series. A 3rd party rep should be a character who is iconic in the gaming community, fits in the Nintendo universe, and at least had a long period of success on Nintendo platforms. Snake already appeared in this series so he shouldn't be replaced, if he should it should be Bomberman

When Rayman and Mewtwo are released in two months, I'm going to reply to those calling this leak fake a big fat I TOLD YOU SO.

Rayman definitely is coming.

MK8 gets 16 new tracks as DLC as part of a "Season pass", and Pikmin 3 had several DLC packs.

I'd be more surprised if SSB did not get DLC then if it does.

And w/ amiibo sales booming on eBay Nitneod needs all the characters it can make.

@Lizuka well you should don't put a hatred in a company in the way to trying out any of their games. Legends was one of the best games on Wii U but no one bought it because they are angry what Ubisoft did, why does this look fake? I know Photoshop is an easy task and i have seen fake rosters for years but there's no evidence this time that says otherwise either. The only proof people give is the dumb excuse people give is that the model work looks ugly when that's what he's SUPPOSE to look like. At least it's better than the trophies which attempted to turn the 2D artwork 3D (those trophies were done by Ubisoft while this could have been done by Nintendo) the more you look at it the more it looks convincing. I normally don't hop on leaks and call them legit but all these claims on "the face looks ugly" or "Ubisoft sucks" really hurt a really popular character so i'm defending it until proven otherwise

@WaveBoy THIS GUY GETS IT!! You are the only one who has made sense so far on this thread I'm in your corner

I'd rather a character that is interesting like Simon Belmont or Mayor Haggar. Better yet a character from X or really being Reyn time. Dixie Kong, Cranky Kong, Waluigi, someone from the Final Story, a Tekken character, Professor Layton, Ace Attorney, Someone from that gamecube game about being like a ghost, Eternal Darkness, Resident Evil, Ryu, A character from Ninja Gaiden, Lego City, Scribblenaughts, Prince Of Persia, Trevor from No More Heros, Leon based on Re4, Something from monster hunter.

About a hundred more then Maybe Rayman. I'd rather the rabbids first though.

@Xamorus The 3DS version, yes but the Wii U version has room for 6 characters. If this ends up true then who knows, maybe even Ice Climbers will return as a Wii U exclusive.

@SetupDisk as i already said Simon isn't relevant to Nintendo anymore. You must not have played enough Rayman games

I don't get why people don't like the model i think it's really nice. Maybe his eyebrows hover above his head like the games

@WaveBoy i'm tired of that old joke there's many reasons he could have left out Sonic but he recognizes his icon status

I have the last 2 rayman games on Nintendo consoles and played the abomination that was on the N64 I think. Simon is just as relevant to Nintendo since one of the last games that followed the old story and style was released on Wiiware.
I like the new Castlevania games but they have nothing to do with Classic Castlevania. Plus even that series has a game on the 3DS and the Castlevania presence on the VC has been better than some Nintendo franchises.
You can say his not relevant but I can also say the sun is blue.

@Grumblevolcano
We don't need any other Sonic characters in Smash. Sonic is already enough.

@SetupDisk just because he has some games on Nintendo systems doesn't mean he's still relevant and fitting. Someone has to give a reason why Rayman doesn't fit in because clearly not everyone knows about the series

I hope this is true because I like Rayman but I could see how this is fake too.

hey lets thank sakuri for giving a poopitypoop about dlc.

i think he will be a great fit better than snake anyway.

I would love to see Rayman in Smash, but where is Captain Falcon on that character selection screen?

@bstoppel Probably moved down next to Villager, this being caused by Mewtwo being with the other Pokémon characters.

I believe this is true because I want so much for it to be true. And LOL at the Rayman amiibo mock-up.

Leak confirmed to be fake!

@Grumblevolcano Well, it's over.

@EvisceratorX Its fake.
Take a look two comments up or follow the link below.
http://youtu.be/IaoB7lnOiXM

Re: Everyone stating opinions on potential DLC characters:
To round out third parties important to Nintendo: Simon, or any other, Belmont (a whip and all those sub-weapons would make a fun character i think), Bomberman, and why not Rayman, even though this is a fake and Ubisoft has been iffy to Nintendo.

@SetupDisk Pretty good list there.

It's still sketchy. While are ubisoft commenting?

It is fake!http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-rayman-might-be-coming-to-smash-bros--287687.phtml?nav=mobile&mode=mobile

Mad props to Artsy Omni. A MASSIVE amount of skill and detail went into this dumb little gag.

Well I'm satisfied that this is a fake, a really good one too.

Well, the video was taken down.

@drewb0203

You clearly have never seen many pictures of "ghosts" or UFOs.

It looked awful. So glad this isn't real.

There you go

Nomination for troll of the year.

What an awulf way to promote his channel and then get people hopes up just to destroy them easily lol

Still defending his likelihood in this series. Anyone with Ubisoft hate should **** off he's deserving whether you like it or not

I'm apparently one of the few that knew from the beginning this was fake.

@Knuckles Oh man, this is the greatest con I've seen in a while! But, why? Why did this dude put so much effort into faking this?

Very well done fake. Also, for those wondering why Rayman would ever be in Smash with how bad of a relationship there is between Nintendo and Ubisoft, Sakurai DOES NOT CARE. He doesn't care about that. If he wanted to put Rayman in Smash, he would. Business politics don't affect Sakurai's decisions.

After looking at his How-To video, I give him credit on the effort (and debunking before things got out of hand). But it's still pretty jerkish that he did it, no matter how impressive it was. And this is coming from a guy who didnt care either way if the rumor was real.

It's not like we dont have a worldwide recognized day dedicated to stuff like this...

I would vote for rayman

@MitchVogel you can also add that Ubisoft is going to present a statement Tuesday regarding this. I just hope it isn't confirmation that this is fake

@IceClimbers Sakurai may not care about business politics, but last time I checked he isn't bankrolling the game. Nintendo is...

So glad this is fake.

@darkgamer001 But on the flipside, Nintendo did publish Rayman Origins in Japan.

For those waiting for Ubisoft, I think it's a bad idea because it's highly likely they would confirm the leak's validity once more. I think they'll just repeat what the creator said. I mean, Ubisoft announced they'd be making an announcement BEFORE the video was confiremed fake.

Well, that suck. Guess we just gotta look forward to Mewtwo.

Too bad this turned out to be a hoax since Rayman would be a natural fit for Smash.

Ubisoft's announcement is that they have a completed Rayman to release to Smash Bros, but due to lack of sales of the console they will instead not release it at all (even digitally). But keep up your hopes that one day they will grace the console with the release.

@Darknyht That's not a problem now. Smash is selling well. And this is fake.

I'd like to see the faces on those people that was like "This is totally real guys and when it's confirmed to be real i'm gonna spit a big told you so right in you' face".

As a huge Smash fan and as an admirer of the series' ability to gather several franchises (not to mention each one's own fandom), I won't comment on this fake leak. Most likely because the gruesome imagery going on in my twisted mind would get me banned in no time.

This guy is a mix of a troll and an attention seeker, using the smashers' hype to promote his own channel. I commented on his video that he used his talent to poke on a hornets' nest, and therefore had it coming. Heck, the top comment for the video is even his own "I'm scared..."; well, guy totally deserves such fear. Good luck to him, I guess.

Honestly, I'd rather have the Ice Climbers exclusively on Wii U than Rayman...and yes, I know that it's fake.

@AlexSora89 Also you do know that this is a part of his "Smashified" series where he makes it seem like wanted Smash Bros. characters are actually in the game, right?

@DBPirate
Good thing the troll had the decency - or, maybe, I should say common sense - not to do this with the Ice Climbers or Ridley (or Wolf, or Snake, or Lucas); now that would have earned him haters.

@AlexSora89 That would've made me so mad! He'll probably do it at some point though, just not as a leak and more as fanart.

@DBPirate
Thing is, I'm not even mad for Rayman not being in Smash. I'm mad because this guy likely expected the internet to laugh it off, as seen in the intro to his video (he even said he regretted showing that smug smile), after building expectations and using said expectations to promote his own channel. Again, the guy is talented, credit where it's due; however, said talent is going to drown under tons of hating comments. Way to go, troll, way to go.

WHERE THE CRAP IS SNAKE?

@BaffleBlend
Boy howdy, did I fall hard for that little detail. This dude knew where he needed to hit.

This guy fooled me. He's a talented, thoroughly clever artist, that guy. Really slick and smart, managed to fool many. Good one, guy. Good one.

Now go jump in a lake. slams down his window grumpily

Sucks that this was just a hoax! It would of been awesome to play as Rayman in Smash!

@Porky I told you so! JK XD

@SphericalCrusher Sorry, I guess the sarcasm missed it's mark. Just one of the many flaws of internet conversation.

Should had just save this for April Fool, I mean c'mon it's only six weeks away.

@Darknyht Well that makes more sense! I read it kind of quick, haha. Indeed man.

for you looking for the original gamecube adapter:

http://bit.ly/1DeuKkM

GameCube Controller Adapter for Wii U (japan import)

Ubisoft, get your Tr4sh out of my Sm4sh!... Is what I would say if this was legit... which it's not... [crys in the corner] I JUST WANT BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL 2!!!!!!!

@darkgamer001 Nintendo would not have cared. It's a business venture. They're not in middle school. Petty grudges like that won't have an effect at all.

I vote for Rayman in Smash. They work with what they have, so it kind of misses the point that anyone would say they would rather have another character, when Rayman is possibly the one they can get in the game. I still think Konami should get a character in Smash, too. It's more characters, so there's no way to complain.

I'm glad the leak was fake, I just don't like to add Rayman in the smash bros roster.
Give me some veterans like Roy or ice climbers and a few newcomers like Dixie Kong, Bayonetta or Krystal.
There shouldn't be to much third party characters in my opinion.

It is already a trophy isn't it ?

What if Rayman was a clone of Oilmar with Rabbids instead of Pikmin... Just putting that out there.

Aww it's fake oh well.

The fact that some of us thought it was even possible should speak for itself. People didn't think Pac-man would be in the game, Duck Hunt dog, or anything, but look. Even Megaman was unexpected.

@Lizuka give me a break this isn't the first site that is against Rayman for a lack of a efficient reason. It's usually Ubisoft they mention as if that's more important than the character himself

@Dutch_Cheesecake Just curious but why do you want Ice Climbers back? I'd rather have Joe & Mac the caveman ninjas in the fray.

@Bearface What ever happened to PLOK anyways?

I think Joe & Mac are a good idea, but I just don't see that happen.
But you know, they might be...
I also didn't saw duck hunt happen and they are in ssb.

Rayman is not going to be in Super Smash Bros. Wii U/3DS

Who,s next? Goku? come on!, it,s about time to Goku join SMASH!