Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS Claims Second in NPD Charts

Well it is bound to drop sales once many already have it....but to lose to such a game....a game that comes out yearly.

@Undead_terror Granted, it is five platforms against one....

@brewsky Yep, the handicap.

I guess Bayonetta is not doing as well in sales as expected. It really is a shame, it is a great game and I don't see why people don't have much interest in it. Perhaps more people are looking for an ESRB of 10+ as opposed to M. But on the positive note, Smash Bros. 4 Wii U coming out in 10 days!

It will be intetesting to see if Wii U gets a boost once companies stop making Wii versions of their games. Skylanders and Just Dance may be nothing more than punchlines to bad jokes on here but they still sell on Wii, maybe some more people would purchase a Wii U to play those games. Heck Wii got FIFA. I cant imagine its any good but it will still sell better than the non-existent U version.

Of course if SSBU connects with the masses - I think #settleitinsmash could make it into the mainstream, maybe they can get Mathew McConnahey to say it while driving his Chrysler - then Wii U could finally get some consistently decent sales.

2 Weeks Until Chart Domination

Too bad about Bayonetta 2. I'd recommend this to anyone, even fans outside the genre (just play on easy!). I think of it as one of those games that could get people into the genre that normally don't try it.

This doesn't necessarily mean Bayonetta 2 sold bad. All of the top ten games are huge sellers, there was no way Bayonetta 2 was going to compete with them, but it still could have sold decent.

Yep FPS and sports games dominate the charts. Not surprising!

I am very sad that Bayonetta didn't manage to scratch top ten. Doing poorly in Japan... Heard it isn't doing great in Europe, either. What is wrong with you people? I thought North America, at the very least, would have been all over it, this time. What a shame.

Well, I am loving the game and am very happy with my purchase. More people need to buy it.

@JosieC84 I wouldn't exactly call two FPS dominating.

Looks like a bunch of Dude-Bros got paid last month. I only saw 3 titles here that I would play. Smash, Skylanders and Shadows of Mordor

Once again nintendo fans don't surport original and mature games on it's console and we all suffer in the long run because of it! Then we all complain we don't get third party support and this is why. Nothing ever changes

Bayonetta 2 wasn't really likely to chart in this particular Top 10, which, as a monthly affair, tends to be dominated by multiplatform titles, especially ones which have been available since the beginning of the month (for obvious reasons). I did read somewhere that it was the #1 selling game on its first week with over 100k copies, outselling the first Bayonetta on both PS3 and Xbox 360.

EDIT: VGchartz says it was #1 both in the USA (121,752 copies) and globally (199,093 copies) last week. The game certainly didn't "flop" as some people say; it's just obviously not gonna sell as much as multiplatform titles or tried-and-true franchises like Smash.

@Mr_G Well, with roughly 7.5 million Wii U owners, and over 80% of them age 18-35, and 97% over the age of 12, you'd really think the game would have done better. Especially when those gimped multiplats everyone complains about, even THEY have been known to sell 250k...

But it's like I said, the vast majority of Nintendo gamers don't really want to play anything but 1st party titles. There's a couple hundred thousand of us that have impeccable taste, mostly the fan site gamers really, but the rest just couldn't care less. In fact, not only do they not care about excellent 3rd party titles such as a Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Wonderful 101 or Bayonetta 2, they don't even care about excellent 1st party titles such as Pikmin 3 and DKC Tropical Freeze.

The only games to really sell WELL on Wii U have been Mario, Mario Kart, 2D Mario, and Zelda. A shame, truly. Masterpiece after masterpiece drops on Wii U and struggles to sell a couple hundred thousand copies, while only one or two games a year sell over 1 million copies. It's like, what are people playing? Are they even playing anything at all? Cause it sure doesn't seem like they ever buy any games.

@JaxonH Everybody else is on Xbox One and PS4 reaping the exclusives Nintendo dreams of having on their failing console.

Stupid sports games!!

I guess the bayonetta sales shouldn't be overly surprising given that a lot of the people who would have otherwise bought it are the mouth breathers who clog up the youtube comments section condemning platinum for not releasing it on a console that has xbox or playstation in it's name. They basically want it to sell poorly because they have the "if I can't have it nobody should have it" mindset combined with "no way am I buying wiiU. If it can't play all the yearly multiplats, that are available on everything else, then I don't want it. Who cares about exclusive games that are well made and are fun to play when I can buy remakes of games that were released last year." and so on.

It's a highly rated game exclusive to an underrated console. There will only be a limited print run like maybe one million world wide. So my advice is to buy it, not for the sake of operational platinum but for the sake of a good investment. 10-20 years from now when these COD focused dudebros have grown up some of them will mature and realise that because of their fanboyism they missed out on a really good game, one which by that time could be rather rare. A bit like the Taito games that came out late in the NES's lifespan like Little Sampson.

@Joruus_Cbaoth You're still alive? That cold blooded killer lied to me saying " Will end anyone's life in a matter of days." What a liar!But seriously your comment made me laugh thanks for that,i needed it.People are reaping third party games on the Xbox One and the PS4,not exclusives i know cause i'm one of them.I just needed to fix that for you friendo.

What the @@@@ is wrong with Wii U owners! These games are awesome, its no wonder why the Wii U has no third-party support.

If they showed how well each game sold on each individual console, then maybe the top 10, in terms of placement of the multiplats, would look different, for better or worse.
Also, is this for the entirely of October or is it for the last week of September until one week before the end of October? If the second option is the correct one, then maybe Bayonetta 2 will show up on November's list...

Bayonetta 2 was never going to make the top 10. You need about 200k to be 10th in a bad month. Unfortunately the two people that leaked most of the NPD fugures to Neogaf are taking a break from the forum, and I think almost every news site just gets their figures from neogaf, so we might never know Bayonetta's figures. It's not a good sign that Nintendo aren't bragging about it in PR though, and are ignoring it entirely.

68k for the Wii U. Awful, awful number, but at least they can brag of huge percentage increases in November and December when everything goes up.

@Peach64 And then falls of a cliff again as Kirby does as well as Bayo 2 did. Kirby won't keep up momentum - if it was a traditional Kirby instead of a Canvas Curse spiritual sequel, then it would be a solid hitter (in terms of impact and sales) like Triple Deluxe was. Yoshi is likely to follow right after, which will do the same thing. Splatoon in likely May is the next time they can make a splash.

Bayonetta 2 was released at the end of October, people shouldn't expect much to begin with, but the game is amazing and that's all that matters right now.

Oh no... Kkslider is going to kill us!

@Benjelo That, and people don't like challenging games anymore. Also, it's a pretty dead genre, sadly. Now it's more hip to do "art games", so people can feel better about themselves and feel like 1337

that's a shame, bayonetta was amazing!

@Mr_G bayonetta also bombed on 360 and PS3. it was always gonna bomb on Wii U. It has a very niche fan base.

Bayonetta 2 has 320k sold, according to vgchartz. I don't see how that is supposed to be a flop?

It isn't even counting the eshop sales which only add to that number.

@rjejr And then release free Chrysler DLC for Mario Kart 8

In Bayonetta's first 3 weeks thus far, its sold 180k units in North America and 70k in Europe. It Currently sits at 320k global sales. It should continue to have decent enough sales over the holiday season as it tries to reaches the 500K mark. Its too bad Nintendo doesn't really like to hype or advertise their games much aside from Smash.

@Joruus_Cbaoth Exclusives??? You mean the majority of 3rd party 'exclusives' that are availible for the competing console(Majority 3rd party PS4 games availible on Xbox One and visa versa,) and even some availible on last gen consoles (PS3 and Xbox 360.) Troll attempt 2/10...

@erv @ricklongo FYI VGChartz is largely fictional. Many publishers have commented that their numbers are wrong. A keen observer will notice the VGChartz numbers change whenever any numbers are made public. They also fail to disclose their methods or source of their data (the things they give on the methedology page are useless in the experimental sense of the method should be detailed enough for anyone to recreate). If we assume they are doing as they say you have to consider straw polls are vastly less accurate than the actual data. If they're well sampled they can be effective but it is easy to get it wrong.

There was also that time when they sales figures for Aliens Colonial Marines...on Wii U. You know, the game that never came out.

This article may be from 2008 but many of the points are sadly very relevant:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/109870/Analysis_What_VGChartz_Does_And_Doesnt_Do_For_The_Game_Biz.php

@ricklongo
Thanks for the info dude.

I do question whether Super Smash Bros for the Wii U will be able to do as well in the charts. I don't think it will somehow. It'll chart for certain, but I don't see it getting as high up simply because I think out of all the systems, it will be PS4 and Xbox Ones people will look to buy this holiday.

But I hope I am wrong.

@Mr_G

Just because it failed to chart, does not mean it will be considered a failure.

@electrolite77 Nintendo would have been crazy to release the Wii U version first. 3DS is the most important console for Nintendo. sales in Japan, Europe and NA show that they made the correct decision in releasing the 3DS version first.

@erv dude Vgchartz is not reliable. Nintendo fans need to stop using them as a source. They speak BS and don't even disclose where they get there data from.

@Starwolf_UK So I hear. Still, their numbers for the entirety of last month hold up with the official top 10, and as far as I can see they haven't changed since I last saw them last week. Not definite proof, but food for thought.

@AJere That comment goes perfect with your avatar!

@Benjelo it actually sold better than expected per Nintendos statement. Tgat should really put this in perspectivre.

Bayonetta was released near the end of the month mind, any way very good sales for smash definitely well deserved, hopefully the Wii U version will do just as well.

I'm not going to say "stupid sports games" like other did. That seems a bit harsh. But I will say that games like Bayonetta 2 can not compete against games that are picked up by the drones every single year. I know people who will buy COD, Madden, NBA2K, and FIFA every single year without even thinking about it. I enjoy playing or have enjoyed playing some of those games in the past but I got bored playing the same thing over and over and over again. I had a blast playing the COD games every year with my friends but after awhile, we got tired of doing the same thing. The one thing I respect about Nintendo, is that they take the time to perfect their games instead of just releasing them on a yearly basis. Even though we get a ton of Mario games, they're usually different versions (2D, 3D, Kart, Sports, RPG, Fighting) and they're not usually "cookie cutter".

However, I don't believe this article means that Bayonetta 2 has not sold well. Most of us on here who have purchased Bayonetta 2 can vouch that it's very very good and every gamer should pick it up.

LOL Its funny how all the attention is on Bayonetta 2 and a lot people here are worried about it or calling it a flop when the game was released at the end of October. 1 week sales vs. 4-5 week sales isn't a fair comparison.

@rjejr You're clearly a marketing genius

i am curious how beyonetta sold
its a shame but its such a good game

Only one exclusive game made the list. So I think any comments about bayonetta 2 not making the list are a little unwarranted.

I would not expect a nintendo exclusive like bayonetta 2 to sell more on the Wii U alone, than minecraft or destiny in all other platforms combined.

@HypocrisyNews @Grumblevolcano - A Lincoln MKC kart w/ a Matthew Mcconaughey Mii driver would be epic marketing. Wish I had thought of it.

@HypocrisyNews This.

I love my Wii U, I really do but I'm becoming extremely concerned with the lack of mature titles and the lack of interest in Bayonetta 2 is really concerning. I'm now considering getting myself a PS4. I just don't feel it's a Sony vs MS vs Nintendo situation any more. I'm starting to feel it's a Sony vs MS decision with a possible Nintendo system as a secondary console.

@midnafanboy Exactly, until a couple of weeks ago I had a PS4 also, and apart from The Last of US (re-make), there really is/was nothing to warrant me keeping it. People are going on about how the lobbies are always full for the latest COD on Xbox and PS4..... of course they are, there really is nothing much else to play. They are both going through a quality drought just like the Wii U did, only when the Wii U was going through it, Xbox/PS4 owners were laughing and saying it is a failure.

Just like to point out, Wii U is STILL out-selling Xbox1. Microsoft said they would have sold 15 million units by Christmas...... good luck with that one lol.

@akaDv8R Xbox One has surpassed Wii U now (well, a couple of months ago in all probability). Nintendo's figure a couple of weeks ago was 7.1 million and yesterday Microsoft announced 10 million.

Very good numbers for Nintendo. Good news that Wii U went up and excellent sales for Smash Bros. 3DS. Wonder what place was Bayonetta 2. It is single platform after all.

Wii U is at 7.49.
Xbox One is at 6.73.
http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

I think this is shipped compared to sold. I doubt Xbox One sold 5 million units since they announced 5 million units sold in August.

@Peach64 10 million shipped to retailers. Not sold to consumers. Microsoft likes to twist words.
http://www.polygon.com/2014/11/12/7211325/xbox-one-sales-10-million

@akaDv8R
XONE has more total sales worldwide than the U, but that is because ONE has next to no sales in Japan. One has already surpassed the U in every other region and continues to pick up steam in NA. They won't reach 15M, but they are beating the U in the places that matter NA/EU. Also keep in mind, the U has been out almost a year extra than the One/PS4, which makes the U sales even more appalling.

@darthllama the extra year is meaningless. Xbox 360 also had an extra year lol.

Glad to see FIFA 15 beat that overrated Bayonetta game!

There was no way Bayonetta would have got in here! I would be impressed if it outsold Sunset Overdrive as a next gen exclusive but to come in the top ten amid casual friendly games available on almost every platform...? That's just not going to happen. It is a testament to the appeal of Smash that it did so well.

@dkxcalibur those drones will buy those games regardless. Its probably the only thing they can play sadly. Shame.

@TheNumberHunter You call Bayonetta an overrated game but not FIFA 15? Wow.

@TheNumberHunter Great another guy who never played the game and calls it overrated.Yay just what we needed.

@Peach64 Microsoft can come out with what ever figure they want, but just over 2 weeks ago, the Wii U was still over 1.5 million units ahead of Xbox1. With Warner Bros. coming in with such a big offer for the Xbox franchise, it only makes sense for them to inflate the figures.

Yet another price drop shows even the most uneducated person that it is not selling well. 3 out of approximately 7 top executives at Microsoft want to sell of their console division, especially as it is loosing them around 60-70 million dollars per week. If they keep it, the Xbox1 is not going to make any profit for the next 3 years, probably longer now since the new price drop.

As for software sales, a single format game is going to find it almost impossible to make a dent when up against 3 or more multi platform titles. However, the pre orders for Smash Wii U are over double of that of MK 8Z,so it is inevitable it is going to sell well, but again, will be up against multi platform titles. Because of this, certain people will call it a failure, as they have with Bayonetta 2,which is clearly wrong.

NBA at the top of the charts how lame!

Bayonetta was clearly not a failure but seriously I thought it would sell more. I am still getting it next month when I get a Wii U with Smash!

Some Nintendo gamers need enlightenment towards 2nd party games and 1st party games that are not Mario or Zelda.

niche animeish games don't make mainstream top selling games.
Welcome to reality, childen.

@Captain_Toad Nintendo's figure is shipped too. It always has been. Only Sony briefly used sold to customer figures, because they were selling out so it made the shipped and sold figures the same. Everyone else has always stated shipped/sold to retail.

@akaDv8R They can't just make up their numbers. These companies are so highly regulated, you have any idea how much crap they'd get into for serious financial fraud for stuff like that? MS is cutting the price because it wants to beat Sony, because they don't want to settle for second.

Stop using VGChartz for your numbers, people. It's all made up.

@Peach64 I never have and never would use vgcharts or any other online review site to get my information. NPD covers North America only, Japan releases its official sales each month. As for Europe and the rest of the World, there really is not a reliable source. No sources outside the actual companies can take into account online sales and digital sales in terms of software.

Seriously, you claim to know your stuff about the console industry, but you are deluded if you think Xbox1 has over taken the Wii U in little over a month.

As for Xbox1 price cuts. They don't want to remain second? Well, at the moment they are third, and for a home console to have 2 price cuts in its first year was unheard of until now. Lastly, it was less than 4 months ago Microsoft came under flack for releasing SHIPPED numbers as units actually SOLD.

Just a little point about a couple of recent titles that have released. Purely for a laugh only. Bayonetta 2 (91 Metacrit) says Hi to COD AW on Xbox1 (82 Metacrit) and to PS4 (83 Metacrit). Like I said, just a laugh!!!!!!!!

@akaDv8R game ratings are useless. They don't reflect what people like or not about a game. Is just an overpaid opinion from a bunch of elitist nerds. Is not that different from asking opinion in a forum. They will always give more praise to niche, obscure, weird games than arcade-like, sports or more mainstream type games.

Elistists views are minority. They are meaningless.

@TheNumberHunter
Are you saying FIFA is not overrated? And you are saying that Bayonetta is overrated? Seriously...

@minotaurgamer What did I put at the beginning of this post? Just for a laugh, that is what it was put up for. WOW, the way you come off, you are either a Nintendo hater, or a fanboy of one of the other consoles. Chill out, it meant nothing.