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Topic: Will we ever see ANYMORE license games on the Virtual Console?

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ItsFuzzyPickles

Hello there. After finding out that Revenge of Shinobi VC version re-painted Spider-Man, I decided that when the game comes to the Virtual Console, I will never buy the game. Why? Because this game should have led an pathway to more license games and with repainting Spider-Man, it's like they shut that opportunity.

With that all said, will we EVER see another licensed game on the Virtual Console? Trust me, I would buy a license game on the Virtual Console, no matter how terrible it may be.

I would say yes because we have Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the Nintendo Entertainment System. We should at least see the TMNT games on the Virtual Console and I would be pleased.

If not, then the Virtual Console will be the most disappointing aspect of the Wii in my opinion.

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LzWinky

By licensed games, do you mean third-party titles?

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ItsFuzzyPickles

lz2009 wrote:

By licensed games, do you mean third-party titles?

By licensed games, I mean ANYTHING that is a licensed game. I'll take anything that is licensed.

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Bass_X0

I didn't see you comment on it in the other topic so I'll say it here as well.

Bandai published the Genesis version of Dragon Ball Z. Bandai still continues to publish Dragon Ball Z games. There exists a possibility that Bandai could, in theory, publish the Genesis version of Dragon Ball Z on the Virtual Console if only they remember that they have the game to put on the Virtual Console and are willing to do so.

Licensing is a trickier business than regular Virtual Console games with no license attached. For one thing the publisher has to approach the owner of the license to use their license again if they don't already have it. And they have to pay to be able to use the license (hence why Turtles is 600 points). When the only people involved in making a decision is your own company then the process becomes a whole lot quicker, simpler and cheaper.

And even if the license is still quite popular today, the fact that there's no advertising for the Virtual Console games means that it'll largely go unnoticed. Whereas retail games can afford to advertise.

Another thing is that licensed games sell mainly on the strength of the license . A crappy game based on a twenty year old movie barely anybody remembers or cares about isn't going to sell well whereas back when the movie was new, you probably couldn't escape the hype.

There's probably a lot more to it than this but I think thats the basics of it.

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ItsFuzzyPickles

Bass+X0 wrote:

I didn't see you comment on it in the other topic so I'll say it here as well.

Bandai published the Genesis version of Dragon Ball Z. Bandai still continues to publish Dragon Ball Z games. There exists a possibility that Bandai could, in theory, publish the Genesis version of Dragon Ball Z on the Virtual Console if only they remember that they have the game to put on the Virtual Console and are willing to do so.

Licensing is a trickier business than regular Virtual Console games with no license attached. For one thing the publisher has to approach the owner of the license to use their license again if they don't already have it. And they have to pay to be able to use the license (hence why Turtles is 600 points). When the only people involved in making a decision is your own company then the process becomes a whole lot quicker, simpler and cheaper.
And even if the license is still quite popular today, the fact that there's no advertising for the Virtual Console games means that it'll largely go unnoticed. Whereas retail games can afford to advertise.

There's probably a lot more to it than this but I think thats the basics of it.

Another thing is that licensed games sell mainly on the strength of the license . A crappy game based on a twenty year old movie barely anybody remembers isn't going to sell well whereas back when the movie was new, you probably couldn't escape the hype.

First off, where is the similar topic?

Wait, I thought the Dragonball games were published by Atari.

That's a solution, Make every game with licensing issues have the price jack up 100 more points.

Tell me why it's too costly to adversite the Virtual Console?

The TMNT has an strong license, also, most of it's game were actually solid. The series is still alive today, so it can't be that hard to put it on the Virtual Console.

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Bass_X0

First off, where is the similar topic?

Whatever topic you mentioned Dragon Ball Z on the Genesis. I forget which one it was now.

Wait, I thought the Dragonball games were published by Atari.

Whoops. You're right. I must have been looking in the wrong place when I thought Bandai still did it.

The TMNT has an strong license, also, most of it's game were actually solid. The series is still alive today,

At the time, Konami who made the original NES game still had the Turtles license. Then it was passed to Ubi Soft.

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the_shpydar

With licensed games, it's not a matter of if they could be released, it's a matter of whether all the appropriate parties feel that it is profitable enough for the effort involved. If new licensing agreements need to be made between entities, this will necessarily jack up the cost-benefit analysis. And the more parties involved, the more costly it will be to everyone involved, thus making a release less likely.

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Adam

...except that the game was never licensed. That's why it had to be changed. It was intellectual theft as far as copyrights go. This game has nothing to do with your "Licensed Games on VC" campaign.

No one is trying to keep licensed games off VC. If the licensor and licensee agree, they can submit the game to Nintendo, but the VC is hardly profitable as it is, apparently, so it's hopeless to think that two companies are going to want to split the costs of a game that won't yield profit. Last I checked, dividing zero profits by two is still zero.

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Adamant

Bass+X0 wrote:

Wait, I thought the Dragonball games were published by Atari.

Whoops. You're right. I must have been looking in the wrong place when I thought Bandai still did it.

Bandai still does it. Atari just handled foreign distribution for some titles (and they seem to have lost the license now anyway), and were also behind the production of some American-made Dragonball games, most of them awful.

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Star Wars games could be released, assuming Lucas Arts ever decides to support VC!

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ItsFuzzyPickles

So what you guys saying is that there will be no more Virtual Console games with license? If so, that's going to make Earthbound that much harder to release (We are not going to topic about that.).

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Bass_X0

So what you guys saying is that there will be no more Virtual Console games with license?

No. Just that there are a number of various complications that may put many companies off from doing so.

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marktheshark

I know some licensed games that probably have a high chance of being released on VC:

X-Men: Children of the Atom
Marvel Super Heroes
X-Men vs. Street Fighter
Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter
Marvel vs. Capcom 1
X-Men: Mutant Apocalypse
Marvel Super Heroes: War of the Gems

If MVC 2 can be released on XBLA & PSN, I don't really see how most, if not all of these games that I listed can't be released on the VC.

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ItsFuzzyPickles

marktheshark wrote:

I know some licensed games that probably have a high chance of being released on VC:

X-Men: Children of the Atom
Marvel Super Heroes
X-Men vs. Street Fighter
Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter
Marvel vs. Capcom 1
X-Men: Mutant Apocalypse
Marvel Super Heroes: War of the Gems

If MVC 2 can be released on XBLA & PSN, I don't really see how most, if not all of these games that I listed can't be released on the VC.

No, they do not have a high chance. Capcom do not own the license to the Marvel series anymore, plus, we can't even get Spider-Man in the VC version of Revenge of Shinobi (Which is why I'm only planning to get the original version.).

In fact, I wouldn't be surprise if Marvel and DC Comics found out that there characters was recolor or mutated in Revenge of Shinobi and sued the hell out of Nintendo just for that. Even worse, we may lose any hope of the game releasing in our shore and it could mean the removal of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the NES, which would destroy all chances of ANY license game on the Virtual Console.

I would love to see those games on the Virtual Console, but it's not like we could see them in the future guarantee.

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Bass_X0

Capcom do not own the license to the Marvel series anymore,

Didn't stop Marvel vs. Capcom 2 being released recently on XBox 360 & PS3. Negotiations were probably made to get it done.

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ItsFuzzyPickles

Bass+X0 wrote:

Capcom do not own the license to the Marvel series anymore,

Didn't stop Marvel vs. Capcom 2 being released recently on XBox 360 & PS3. Special negotiations were probably made to get it done.

So? That doesn't help the chance of it being release on the Virtual Console at all, or does it?

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The_Fox

marktheshark wrote:

I know some licensed games that probably have a high chance of being released on VC:

X-Men: Children of the Atom
Marvel Super Heroes
X-Men vs. Street Fighter
Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter
Marvel vs. Capcom 1
X-Men: Mutant Apocalypse
Marvel Super Heroes: War of the Gems

If MVC 2 can be released on XBLA & PSN, I don't really see how most, if not all of these games that I listed can't be released on the VC.

I'm sure the die hard fan following MvC2 has retained over the years helped convince Marvel to let it be released. The others? Not so much.

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Adam

I think MvC is unlikely to come to Wii because it's an arcade game. As far as I've noticed, there have been no contemporary arcade games released on VC. There's also the common perception that these kinds of games will fare better on 360 or PS3, so it might not be seen as worth it. Licensing clearly has nothing to do with it since it's been released on 360 and soon will be on PS3.

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DjPhatskillz

why are licensed games such a big deal? i'm not trying to be a jerk at all or anything, but i just don't see what the big deal is...

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Bass_X0

he got bored about complaining of there being so few games every week, and the lack of Earthbound & Super Smash Bros.

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