Tetris Attack is indeed first-party, but Nintendo's right to use the Tetris name has expired, sadly. That was the best version of Puzzle League, and now it's unusable because of a stupid name.
The N64 has alot to go as a matter of fact. Pilotwings 64, Blast Corps, Mario Tennis, KI Gold, Bomberman 64, Mischief Makers, Bomberman Hero, Cruisn' World, F1 World GP, Waialae Country Club: True Golf Classics, Mario Party Series, Pokemon Stadium 1+2, Cruisn Exotica, Excitebike 64, Ridge Racer 64, Dr. Mario 64, and...yeah...alot. Maybe they're not developed by Nintendo, but they'r all published by Nintendo, so that's alot. And yeah maybe some won't be able to get a release because of copyright issues. I have no idea, but I see no problem. And this is just N64 alone, and only US games. So again...alot.
Blast Corps and Killer Instinct Gold were Rare games, so you can cross those off the list in all likelihood. Dr. Mario 64 is just as unlikely as Dr. Mario (NES). The Stadium games are unlikely due to most of the game's potential being tied to the transfer pack. Bomberman is Hudson. Nintendo published it, but you can bet Hudson has the final say when it comes to Bomberman.
Mischief Makers was published by Enix in Japan. Would NoA really give us a Treasure game that Japan may well not get? That'd be awesome. I don't remember if I played this game anyway. Didn't look that great.
I don't know enough about the rest to comment on, but the N64 was an odd transition period. I imagine there are problems with a lot of them, but who knows.
@Adam: Answer this question. Which game is more likely, Tetris Attack or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Arcade Game?
I think Tetris Attack is very likely to be released here, because it was released in Japan. You think that just because a game might have licensing issues that companies will swarm Nintendo will lawsuits. They can ALWAYS change the name. They have done this before with other games. How about Yoshi's Attack or Yoshi's Puzzle League?
They haven't actually changed any game names, they've just called it something else in the description. The Japanese Super Mario Bros 2, Smash Ping Pong, MERCS... they all have their original title in the actual game, despite the shop claiming it's really called something else.
Also, they gave us Pokemon Puzzle League, which is better anyway. Who cares about Tetris Attack?
Blast Corps and Killer Instinct Gold were Rare games, so you can cross those off the list in all likelihood. Dr. Mario 64 is just as unlikely as Dr. Mario (NES). The Stadium games are unlikely due to most of the game's potential being tied to the transfer pack. Bomberman is Hudson. Nintendo published it, but you can bet Hudson has the final say when it comes to Bomberman.
I actually didn't know BC was a Rare game, and I keep thinking KI was Midway. I'm just thinking of Midway's arcade board the first two are on. But all the others, like Mischief Makers, it is possible Japan will get it soon, and it was reeased in America, and published by Nintendo here, so that's possible (likeSin and Punishment) and thre's a better chance of us getting Dr. Mario 64 than the NES game because of it's content. But nobody should get worried about Ninty not releasing their games, there's still plenty of time left for the Wii, if they released them all now, they'd have no more.
I think Tetris Attack is very likely to be released here, because it was released in Japan.
No, it wasn't. And as Adamant says, they haven't actually changed names before. You are probably thinking of Panel de Pon, which is basically the same game, different theme. Maybe we'll get that as an import one day, but I doubt it.
Super+Smash+Bros wrote:
You think that just because a game might have licensing issues that companies will swarm Nintendo will lawsuits.
No, I don't think that, and I never said that, either. Unless you can read minds, you shouldn't claim to know what other people think.
Super+Smash+Bros wrote:
@Adam: Answer this question. Which game is more likely, Tetris Attack or Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Arcade Game?
No, that has nothing to do with anything.
Anyway, the reason I think this game is unlikely is that, even if we could assume Tetris Company's holds on the game were solely for the use of the name, why bother changing the name when there is a hassle-free version of the same game earning them $2 more per title under the Pokemon name? It's not as easy as saying: Game has licensing issues -> Game cannot be released. You can't make out everyone's opinions to be black and white. Business and law are not so simple.
I figure they just released Pokémon Puzzle League instead of Tetris Attack...especially since we got it so soon after Japan got Panel de Pon. As for why anyone would want Tetris Attack...not everyone likes Pokémon, y'know. The music and visuals of Tetris Attack are well worth a download even if you DO like Pokémon Puzzle League, IMO. Only reason I really care for Pokémon Puzzle League is that it's the ONLY version to ever have 3D mode (why later versions didn't is entirely beyond me...). Otherwise, I'd be tempted to pass it by for something more asthetically pleasing myself.
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They need to reserve these titles, for business purposes. Besides, if you're a hardcore VC fan and can't wait for say, Super Smash Bros., you might grab some title you're mildly interested in that you wouldn't have bought if not for the drought. Also, they are running out of potential first-party titles already and the Wii has quite some years left in its lifespan.
Pretty much spot-on I think. They're going to want to have some big announcements for years to come. I expect a lot of 3rd parties would hold back for the same reason: spread out the gold to ensure there's always some good sales coming.
Frankly I'm surprised Namco is saturating the VCA in Japan like it is. It's great, but as rich as their arcade history is they're running out of content to put up there. Contrast with Sega and Tecmo who are trickling releases or Konami and Taito who are abstaining completely. I have to think they'll be there eventually, but it's a bit crowded right now and every company will want to maximise their exposure.
Please correct me if any of these titles are not first-party.
Popeye, Tetris and Tetris Attack won't appear because of licensing issues. The Tetris Company now owns the concept and don't seem to be willing to give the Tetris name out to any game that isn't up to modern Tetris standards. And certainly not a game that doesn't play a thing like Tetris.
Mario & Wario is a mouse game. Although I would like to see the mouse replaced with the Wii remote pointer, I doubt that will ever happen.
And yes, the DS game probably blocks the SNES Kirby Super Star from appearing on the VC (even though Japan is more lenient).
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Mario & Wario could be played with the controller.
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As for why anyone would want Tetris Attack...not everyone likes Pokémon, y'know.
Sucks to be them, and I don't see how that really matters much. How many people did you see cheering for Wonder Boy 3: Dragon's Trap to be released because "not everyone likes those guys from Dragon's Curse"? Are you going to start pining for the release of Dokidoki Panic too, since "not everyone likes Mario"?
If you want to prove why one game shouldn't come out, you shouldn't compare it to a game that did come out. Some people do like Wonder Boy 3. Several forum users have mentioned playing it in chat recently.
And yes, everyone likes Mario. This is a Nintendo site. But I'm sure there are some who would like to play the original anyway, myself included.
As for Pokemon Puzzle League Vs. Tetris Attack, the Pokemon noises are obnoxious, and the Yoshi's Island theme is really well done. They're essentially the same game, so it makes sense to prefer the cheaper, better looking, and better sounding version. I would think this would be easy for you to understand, even if you disagree. It's not a crime to like one theme over another. No one is "pining" for it, but it would be nice if it's possible.
Mario & Wario doesn't have a standard-controller option, so they'd need to include mouse support or modify the original game's code to support the standard controller. The Wii contains USB ports, so supporting a PC USB mouse should be possible? Tetris Attack would be more work. Because of the Tetris name, they'd need to replace the original game's title screen (whereas with The Lost Levels, they just left the original "Super Mario Bros. 2" title screen in-game and called it SMB:TLL in the Wii menus). (though I think they COULD release the Japanese version of TA, Yoshi no Panel de Pon. Being based on the US/EU version, Yoshi's version contained the JP/EN language-select. Then again, it might have been distributed only through Satellaview, so I'm not sure if that makes a difference. But I don't think it would, since it didn't contain any streamed content. However, I wouldn't count on seeing an import game when Nintendo probably felt they had an adequate domestic substitute available.)
Yoshi's Panel de Pon was distributed via Satellaview. I'm not sure that is inherently a problem, though. I know Zelda BS is problematic because it downloaded parts of the game on different days, or something along those lines. I doubt Yoshi featured anything of the sort, but I can find no details on this, sadly. I doubt it'll happen anyway. Nintendo has enough first-party games that would not require as much effort for now. And it's not like they release first-party games often to begin with.
Are you going to start pining for the release of Dokidoki Panic too, since "not everyone likes Mario"?
Hell yeah I am. I love the Mario games, and I love SMB2a's gameplay, but I can't stand the game itself. A Mario game that plays nothing like a Mario game? I will gladly pay the extra 100 points for the import.
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