Topic: Nintendo listen to us?

I'm sure they surf some of the larger fan sites, including this, to see some player wants and see what information has been leaked before official announcements.

Nintendo doesn't read most sites. They peek in on a few but are mostly satisfying the "Motion Control 6 year old 3rd party group".

I called nintendo twice to tell them my wii issues (problems) if they didn't care they wouldn't pick up the phone, or listen to their costumers.

Sometimes projects run into issues and either get abandoned or delayed. I understand that a Wii Kirby game at least was in development, but was proving problematic. F-Zero is a bit odd, unless they just thought they couldn't compete with Wipeout being in HD. A Kid Icarus sequel would be a bit like a StarTropics sequel--not likely to happen. On the StarFox front, they really seem to be puzzled as to why the series has gotten less successful. I personally think WiiWare would be a good home for StarFox, as it would be easier to get away with a short shmup game in the spirit of the original releases.

I believe they actually care about the audience. They do listen sometimes, but not always.

what was the last game Nintendo made that was aimed at 6 year olds?

crickets

^^Proof.

Susan Storm Odnetnin: Why are you destroying our planet ignoring your fans?
Silver Surfer Nintendo: I have no choice.
Susan Storm Odnetnin: There’s always a choice.
Silver Surfer Nintendo: Not always.

Nope. I have to disagree 100%. If Nintendo didn't care about us, there wouldn't be a Mario 3-D Adventure, Metroid Prime, Zelda, Mario Kart, and a Mario side-scroller already on Wii even though there is.

If Nintendo didn't give the games i've just mentioned and gave us only City Folk, Wii fit, Wii Sports, etc., etc, THEN you'd have a right to say "Nintendo does not care about us".

Not having a Kirby, F-zero, Star Fox, and Kid Icarus doesn't mean Nintendo doesn't care. Hell you don't even know all four of those games are in development.

Nintendo cares about DS, it is their real battle horse and now it needs to fight on the top of the crest against Mac and other mobile devices makers which are also aiming to the gaming market. I think that this battle might still be won by Nintendo.

On the other hand, the Wii was born already outclassed and underpowered and now it is a really obsolete and extremely limited white (or black) box which might still survive decently aiming to the non-traditional gamers market (as it has been from the very beginning). Problem is that at least Sony is now targeting strongly to that market too.

My conclussion is that Nintendo will pay a lot of attention to everything DS or DSi related and little to the Wii.

I actually think Nintendo is more concerned about the Wii than the DS. With the DS, everything happened according to plan: strong first-party support eventually led to strong third-party support, to the extent that Nintendo could go a year without releasing a DS game and barely an eyebrow would be raised. The Wii still relies heavily on first-party games, so gamers notice that only a few Nintendo games come out a year. The third-party titles are not consistently making money, so third-party support is tepid at best.

Sure, the Wii may not be HD, but that's not the problem. The Wii has a different audience that game developers have never seen before, so they're still learning to cater to them. Nintendo, meanwhile, is balancing between catering to its new audience and its traditional one (and there is crossover between the two).

There is no Zelda yet. Twilight Princess is a port, not an actual Wii game. And your right, I don't know if they are in development, but Miyamoto just said that a StarFox might not happen because of the popularity, and a Kirby was scrapped a long time ago because of the Wii. And NSMBWii was basically made to keep us waiting for SMG2, a game that could be done with DLC, but Nintendo doesn't allow that on their console.

Nintendo mostly cares about Mario, Zelda, Pokemon. I'm not saying that they ignore the other franchises, but the mentioned ones make them a lot of money.

Not every fan wants the same thing. Nintendo would be really busy if they fulfilled every fan's request. And it would not be in everyone's interest if Nintendo released a big game really often. Also, since Nintendo is a business, they still have to strategize what games are made and when they are released so that fans can buy them and they (Nintendo) make a profit. When Nintendo makes a profit, they can work on the next big game.

Honestly I think that some people are over-reacting. If Nintendo doesn't give you what you want, that doesn't mean that they don't listen to any of their fans.

I think they have a sort of general idea what we think, but they are still a business first. Like, they obviously knew we needed a storage solution even though statistically speaking not many people needed it. Sometimes (not generally) it makes more sense as a business to not listen to what the fans want or to slow the process of releasing something to conserve money for other funding or whatever.

Actually, I'm fine with what Nintendo has to offer on the Wii and DS. In fact, I don't have the money and time to buy all of the products offered! I suppose that's what makes me a Nintendo fan. I can totally see why Nintendo might not meet the standards of others, though.
Good points, Mandoble and Moco Loco.

Wasn't the original question "does Nintendo go to this website and take/listen our opinions?"

As for my two cents on the whole "Nintendo does/doesn't care about their fans" thing, you people are essentially saying to yourselves "it's either one way or the other" when it's really not. Nintendo is a company that wants money, but every company wants money, so you can't say that makes them not care about their fans. lz2009 and zss_shadow are making the best points out of all the people on this board, including me. And RWP, you need to remember that Nintendo cares about the quality of the product they make, which is what the fans want; a good, high quality game. Now, if Nintendo was making a LOW QUALITY game in a franchise that raked in a lot of cash, then you can call them a soulless monstrosity, but since they're not, you can't really hold up that argument very well without some ignorance on your side. (not trying to insulting you, but I'm just saying...)

EDIT: Add "on purpose" in-between "game" and "in", which are after "LOW QUALITY"

Only people with microsoft biases say that garbage. If they didn't care, we wouldn't have games that have time, talent, and effort put into them.

Reading the entire thread, it evolved from its original purpose but staying somewhat on-topic:

Nintendo listens to its consumers. Heck, we may never know if they're watching you guys trade shots.

We try many ways to give our input as fans to Nintendo but maybe we think they don't listen but they always take notes.

Sure they don't give us the results we expected but they listened anyway.

And with you guys are saying, what company doesn't love money? Nintendo surely loves cash.

@Sylverstone Good point. Maybe we all should just all shut-up and actually find out if they do listen before we debate on whether Nintendo actually heeds our advice, which is what we're ACTUALLY arguing. And you might want to delete the double post. Just something I noticed.

Actually Nintendo as well as Sony/Microsoft have people hired on there staffs that DO in fact monitor game sites reviews, forums, etc. As this is the Largest Nintendo Site on the Internet Im sure this one get read daily from Nintendo. If they didn't care about their fans they wouldnt still be in buisness. Everything produced from Nintendo is very polished and appeals to someone. I do think Nintendo may be in a bit of a situation of a core gamers not supporting the next Nintendo Consoles because of lack of games that appeal to the core/hardcore gamers (not arguing this), there are a few games but not enough to cater to their needs, and by this I do mean its not Nintendos fault that 3rd Parties are developing the high standard games that you see on other consoles. Most hardcore games on Nintendo systems of days past Ninja Gaiden, Battletoads, Metal Storm, etc are Not developed by Nintendo but that lineup hasnt really been strong since SNES/N64 days. Its not going to hurt them at all, as I think Nintendo is intentionally moving toward a younger fanbase and that is a good thing. It mean I wont be playing too much NIntendo but Im about to have kids of my own and I want them to have clean, fun and hopefully somewhat challangeing games to play like I did as a child that I dont have to worry about the content in the games being bad for my own kids. I think Nintendo Does need to come out to their fans and say exactly where they are headed as a company so you dont have the hardcore base jump on the system just to be let down a with lack of content, as money doesn't grow on trees and they would understand.