Topic: Watch_Dogs "Delayed" for Wii U

And how do you propose that they should stop this?

Not only will this game not releasing on the Wii-U hurt the console owners who wanted it, but its also another nail in the coffin for the Wii-U's marketing/PR departments.

Another high profile third-party title skips the Wii-U, providing more proof to consumers that their gaming money is better spent on a PS4/Xbox.

It's kind of like EA. They feigned support for Wii U by releasing Mass Effect 3 (the worst one IMO) on Wii U and immediately cut DLC support at the same time the other two systems were getting the entire trilogy for a lower price...and then they complain that their games don't sell on Wii U...I know WII U is struggling...but to promise support and then half-donkey it doesn't make anyone want to buy your games on that system. I think everyone (Ubisoft included) sees EA, admires them, and is intentionally making moves so they'll get bought up by them so they can live a cushy while getting away making now-crappy games like Bioware.

By the end of this cycle EA will own half of the western software companies.
_{Please watch the profanity — TBD}

Ubisoft's official statement is

"We made the difficult decision to further delay the release of Watch Dogs on Wii U to focus the team's resources where they could have the broadest possible benefit for both our customers and Ubisoft"

So screw the Wii U then but still release it for the Wii U. Makes sense to me!

It does make me wonder though. Why are the major 3rd parties going about with their games on Wii U as they are? I would understand if the ports were almost or just as good as the PS4/XBONE or even PS3/360 and still don't perform acceptably, but missing DLC packs, delays for the Wii U version only, blatant price differences (Mass Effect) and just all around sub-par versions (what ones actually come to the platform anyway) don't give them excuses as to why their products aren't selling.

Call me a fanboy or whatever, but it almost feels like they are intentionally making the ports inferior regardless of the lower processing power the Wii U possesses.

I am just glad they haven't cancelled it... yet. As long as it comes to Wii U it will be a day 1 purchase. If they cancel it for Wii U then I am still going to get it but wait for it to be dirt cheap on steam lol

Maybe they figured out how to get the 8th gen version running with GamePad features... Or Maybe Nintendo plans on upping their online game, and they see that as a time to put out their game for the best results. It's not like this sort of occurrence is news. Just look at Bioshock, Mass Effect, etc. few games that made the jump to multiplatform after they were unintentionally exclusive.

In this case, it would be exclusive to Xbox and PS across 2 generations. They're essentially balancing 4 consoles. PS3 and Xbox 360 share a version. PS4 and Xbox One share a version, and it could really go both ways for Wii U, so if they're putting extra work, resulting in a delay, we'll probably be getting a better game for Wii U as an outcome.

I'm just speculating. I don't really see this as an issue, as long as it's a good gane when it finally does release on Wii U. If we consider this from a console life cycle point of view, people will be buying Wii Us after this game come out. It's not like it's available on launch week, then everyone forgets that it's there, if they don't have it.

/rambling over

Ubisoft does what they have to do to make money. Nothing really wrong with It. It just sucks on the consumer end. But hey if people who owned Nintendo consoles bought 3rd party software then we might not see this happen.

You can't really blame consumers for not really supporting the games that have come out with lacking features, though. I would have totally bought Madden 13 if the physics weren't jacked. The GamePad features were awesome from what I could tell, but the game was jacked up in other places.

Same goes for Mass Effect 3: SE vs. the Trilogy. Really though, some EA guys said that ME3 wasn't even expected to sell on Wii U, anyway. They put out a game for Wii U, that they knew wouldn't really sell, so it's not that bad.

There are games like Need for Speed Most Wanted U that were great versions that also didn't sell and that doesn't put any confidence in a company to publish titles on a system that software sales are stagnant. Just remember there's 2 sides to every story.

Indeed. A majority of the big end third party games suck on the Wii U

@RancidVomit86
I'm not saying there isn't, but I just think 3rd parties weren't prepared for Wii U at all. They were still focused on 7th gen, and then their focus shifted to Xbox One and PS4. Now Wii U is in a void that it got left behind, but technically really isn't. It's hard to explain...

Say if EA would have developed a brand new NFS game, by the time it got done, they'd be able to port to Xbox One and PS4. Since Xbox One and PS4 took the lead, now it will be happening in reverse, if at all. That's why it's important to know what these companies intentions and goals are, otherwise we don't really know what they're thinking while Wii U looks like it just keeps taking punches.

I just look back at E3 2011 and E3 2012, and wonder what happened. I'm not really worried, honestly.

Nintendo games sell significantly worse on Nintendo consoles and it has been that way since the GameCube. 3rd parties have had a short leash with the Wii U though some is little longer then others. If you think 3rd parties don't want to sell more games and make a profit by having Wii U versions of games being purchased then you are kidding yourselves.

Rayman Legends - Definitive version
Assassin's Creed 3 - Exclusive content and all DLC
Sonic Lost World - Exclusive
The Wonderful 101 - Exclusive
ZombiU - Exclusive
Deus Ex - Exclusive content and Superior Graphics

All bombed.
Idk why you all continue to point the finger at these companies.

@MAN1AC
That still doesn't change that people want new experiences and 8th gen quality games. There arguably hasn't been one single next gen game, even on Xbox One and PS4. Besides, I was pointing out the games that lacked features. I understand that games aren't seling very well anyway, but that goes back to that people don't just want a repeat of 7th gen, which is kind of what is happening.

Wasn't the best selling game for Xbox and PS CoD? Don't kid yourself on that one.

COD sells well regardless and you're going in circles.

Also, games like Rayman Legends and Tomb Raider will be released on the Xbone and PS4 and I can guarantee you that they won't bomb the way those games I listed did on the Wii U. And okay, ppl didn't buy the gimped games, but what's the reason for the games I listed bombing so hard? Even the exclusive ones did poorly.

I think its time that ppl be honest about the situation instead of saying 3rd party publishers arent giving the Wii U a fair chance.

• Rayman Legends did well in the market, and at one point, outsold the PS3 and 360 versions. It's currently outsold the 360 Version, however it's short of the PS3 version by 10K-20K with almost 300K sold.
• Ubisoft shouldn't expect people to buy Assassin's Creed 3, when most of the Wii U audience never bought AC1 &2. Regardless, it sold 200K, and judging by it's position, that's a good amount for a launch title.
• What stopped Sonic Lost World from selling was it's critical reception being mediocre-good. People are stingy like that, and it's not the consumer's fault their iffy on buying a game that wasn't very praised.
• How bad could have The Wonderful 101 bombed, if Kamiya has plans for The Wonderful 102 for Wii U? We don't have track of digital sales, but we do know that there were digital promotions for the game, that could have put Platinum into a nice profit with the game
• ZombiU had 600K sold. That's alot for a launch title on the Wii U. And I question how Ubisoft didn't get a profit on the game. 600K isn't bombed
• You want to know why Deus Ex Bombed? Square Enix had the audacity to put the Wii U version at $50, no longer make it exclusive, and put the other versions of the game at $30. I don't want to be treated like crap by publishers, and that $50, that could have been spent on Deus Ex, went to eShop games instead. It's a very similar position to that of when the Angry Birds Trilogy announced for consoles. Not plenty of Nintendo Lifers were happy with the fact it was $40.

Those Rayman Legend #s are not good if you consider the fact that there was a drought and literally nothing to play on the Wii U at the time. I doubt Ubi is happy with how that game did considering it was supposed to be an exclusive.

Same goes for Sonic. An HD game needs a decent amount of sales to recoup what was put into the game so are you trying to tell me 500K+ Wii U owners backed away due to mediocre reviews? I doubt it.

As for ZombiU, why isnt Ubi interested in making a sequel if it sold so well?

Deus Ex can fall under the same category as Tomb Raider and I guarantee you Tomb Raider will sell more.

Its pretty obvious that the majority of Wii U owners just want 1st party games for whatever reason. There's nothing wrong with that but dont make up excuses to why these games didn't meet sales targets.

@MAN1AC
There isn't just one reason why they're selling poorly. That's why it's pointless to point out only one loop hole and blame the entire situation on that.

Also, it doesn't matter for 3rd parties whether W101 or Sonic sell well. They got paid to make those, not sell them, and that's besides that Sonic sold fairly well, so you can knock that game off your list, at least.

Rayman Legends and Tomb Raider sold poorly on Xbox 360 and PS3, too, so those don't really count as anything negative for Wii U any differently than they did for those platforms.

Assassin's Creed 3 sold enough for them to not lose any money either. You're forgeting that these ports were initially made on Xbox 360. It didn't cost them that much to transition those titles to Wii U, as is, which is also why it's more important that the 8th gen version CoD Ghosts sells more than than the 7th, especially on Wii U, because the transitional investment isn't nearly as much as dedicating resources to something that should be better.

ZombiU was mostly Ubisoft's fault. They spent more money on the game than what could have been compensated, but that does have to do with Nintendo needing to do a better job. I'm not denying that.

I agree that Deus Ex bombed. Except for Deus Ex and ZombiU, all these games failing doesn't effect the bottom line. W101 selling poorly only effects Nintendo; not even Platinum lost out on that one. You drew the wrong conclusion on the rest of those games, though.

@MAN1AC
Those Rayman Legends #s are good, if you consider the user base for every system.
Consider this: A good amount of Wii U games were released in the holidays. One has a Metacritic average of 9.3. Another has a Metacritic Average of 9.0. And another has a Metacritic Average of 6.4. Which ones are going to sell?
ZombiU did sell well if you consider the ratios. It's too bad the Wii U didn't.
I wonder why Deus Ex wouldn't sell more? Maybe because 0/2 previous Deus Ex games weren't on Nintendo systems? Maybe Wii U consumers are stingy when it comes to buying sequels? I know I am.