Topic: Super Mario 3D World - OT

Yeah, I wasn't on the Nintendo scene during the GameCube days, but it sure seems like Sunshine, and Luigi's Mansion, were both regarded as okay or even poor titles. Now they are practically treated like gods. Nostalgia is a strange thing...

I just never had that.. mindset of playing like Mario Kart 64 and then having Super Mario Kart in the back of my mind. They both have a different feel. Like the controls and the way levels are designed.

I actually like the Friday the 13th game. Though to enjoy that game you need to know what to do ahead of time. Looking for the pitchfork and such.

This. How can people say the game is exactly the same because you looked at a few screenshots? Galaxy 2 looked a lot like the first, but we all love that one, dont we?

I don't think it's nostalgia. With those titles in particular, as well as The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, I think the issue was that people needed to be removed from their expectations before being capable of fully appreciating what they were. That happens all the time in all sorts of mediums—not just video games.

I'm afraid even that has been disputed. I can't argue though, their opinions are as valid as the opinions of you or me. Though, with Super Mario Galaxy 2, most of the nay-sayers have played it. Whereas with 3D World, a lot of the people that dislike it haven't played it. It's a strange world we live in...

@Tainy I've played Super Mario Sunshine numerous times with several different perspectives. It was a boring game made depressing because everyone seems to be enjoying it more than I am.

EDIT: I think Jim Sterling's "Oil on water: How I can't love the games you love" (interesting article. I highly recommend you read it.) says it best: "My wife adores Jeff Buckley, as do a fair few people I've met over the years. They say his music touches their soul, speaks out to them, and provided the soundtrack to a considerable majority of their lives. I've heard his stuff, and I just don't get it. It doesn't sink in. There's something interminably frustrating about that, to know that somebody is getting so much satisfaction out of something, and you can't access whatever font of pleasure others can merrily tap into at will."

Sunshine is absolutely amazing, far better than the lameness that is 3d World. In fact, Sunshine is on my top 10 games list..

Also, just by looking at gameplay videos of 3d World, does anyone else think it looks far too easy?

@Metal_Sonic I take it that you've played it then?

@Mickey No, but you can obviously tell by looking at gameplay videos that the game is easy. Enemies are spread mostly far apart and are easy to take out, and the platforming itself looks way too easy..

Kung Fu Rabbit looked easy to me.. until I played it.

since when were any of the 3D mario games hard since sunshine? and they have only shown 3 levels so its hard to know

The only thing I found hard in Sunshine was those special levels since you didn't have FLUDD.

If someone saw a picture of this game they would think it was Galaxy 3, there is no difference between the games besides gravity effects, which I don't think added that much to the gameplay experience besides visuals. No one complained about Galaxy 2, so why is everyone complaining about this game?

Hooray for being responsible for changing the subject to a WAY better adverstised game! >:] Bwahahahahah!!

Rhythm Heaven looked extremely easy, all you did was just tap constantly.

Far too easy? We've seen what, four levels and a boss fight? And to a degree, at least half of those are before the game's halfway point... of course they'd be fairly easy.

Besides, very few Mario games have ever been super difficult (outside of secret levels and the Lost Levels game), even less so any of the boss battles.

Based on 3D Land, the main game might be on the easy side....maybe they'll go with that path again, where the second portion are harder versions of the first. (can't tell you how many times I've died trying to complete those, still have yet to do this, lol)

Lol oh those Clock Monkeys ****ed me off...

Yeah, and it does look easy, until you play those games. (still cannot get a medal on those Lockstep games, lol)

Because it's hip to dislike new Mario games now.

The amount of premature bias in this thread is astounding.