Topic: Super Mario 3D World - OT

id have to disagree, my favorites definitely Mario. speed and jump are jusssst right

Agreed, though it's worth saying that Rosalina isn't just a bit overpowered, she's WAY overpowered. Not only is she the only character in the game with an attack, but it's a 360 degree attack. That functions as a bloody double-jump. Geez.

Hello. Where do you see how many percent the game is finished?

Havent done the last world, spending all my awake time at Champions Road (8 hours today). Its just so hard and im not that good..becoming all nerveous also haha. Using Rosalina, my maximum performance is the water section but failed 3 times yet. Right now its not funny, its very, very, very frustrating.

Maybe its easier with co-op

Am I the only one who finds this game underrated? Everywhere I go, I always see criticism about the game, and I don't know why. Let me go over the common complaints about the game:

This Game is a Rehash, They Should of Made Super Mario Galaxy 3: Why would you want ANOTHER Mario Galaxy game? Isn't two enough? People complain about Nintendo "rehashing" Mario, but Galaxy 2 gets a free pass, and gets called "new and innovative," when Mario Galaxy 2 was EXACTLY the same as the first Mario Galaxy, except it had new levels. Yeah. "New and innovative" my @$$! There was nothing "new and innovative" about that overrated heep of garbage. Let's see... They added Yoshi, 3 new power-ups (if you count the drill as one), a bland world map, no story, and an extremely small and pointless hub world. Plus, they had the guts to reuse levels from the first Galaxy game. Overall, Galaxy 2 wasn't "new and innovative," and it's a blatant rehash of the first Mario Galaxy.

Moving on... 3D World is NOT a freaking rehash. There's no evidence that it is. What other Mario game before 3D World had you running around as a cat in 3D with 4-players, duplicating youself, and climbing up walls? Oh, that's right, there wasn't. Almost every level in 3D World felt new and innovative. Plus, nearly every level felt different, and had their own unique mechanic to it. And before you say 3D World is "just an HD version of 3D Land," it isn't. Did 3D Land have 4 playes? Did 3D Land have you running up walls as a cat? Did 3D Land have creative levels? Did 3D Land have good/tight controls? No, It didn't. A sequel is suppose to build, and improve upon the original. And that's EXACTLY what 3D World did.

If you think 3D World is a "rehash", then you must think EVERY sequel ever made is a rehash. 3D World had better controls, more creative levels, 4 players, brilliant power-ups, a free-roaming world map, better boss fights, a better soundtrack, better reply-value, a better camera, and pretty much better everything. Does that sound like a "rehash" to you? Of course not. 3D World did what any other sequel should do. Expand, build, and improve upon the original. Galaxy 2 on the other hand... wasn't a proper sequel. It was an expansion-pack of the first Mario Galaxy. It had the same controls, reused a lot of levels, "meh" power-ups, the levels weren't has creative as the first one (debateable, but I found the first one to have more creative levels), looks, feels, and plays the same as the first one. When people bring up Mario "rehashes", they bring up the NSMB series, even 3D World, and NOT Galaxy 2.

What I'm trying to say is, you can't call 3D World a "rehash," and say Galaxy 2 isn't.

The Game Was Disappointing:
A.) You probably didn't finish the game.
Most people who are disappointed with this game, played a couple worlds, and stopped playing.

B.) You finished the game, but didn't touch the extra worlds.
A lot of people who were disappointed with this game didn't even play the extra worlds.

C.) You're upset that they didn't make a Mario Galaxy rehash instead.
Cry me a river.

D.) You're upset that they didn't make Mario 64 2, or Mario Sunshine 2.
Just because Nintendo made this game instead of those, doesn't mean the game itself is disappointing.

Other than the things I just mentioned, I don't know why you would be disappointed with the game.

Sorry for this long post, I just had to get this off my chest. It's been bothering me for months.

@SockoMario: No need to go on a rant, the game has received plenty of praise. Also, Galaxy 2 isn't a rehash, it's a great game in its own right.

Mario Galaxy 2 was okay. It's just that it felt like I was replaying the first one again. I'm so harsh on Galaxy 2, because when people talk about "rehashes," they bring up 3D World, but not Galaxy 2. It really erks me, especially when 3D World isn't even remotely close to being a rehash. And most of the praise this game gets, is from critics, and die-hard Nintendo fans.

Also, I'm not saying Galaxy 2 was't a fun game. NSB2 was a rehash of NSBW, yet it was still fun, IMO.

I think the difference is that 3D world is the victim of being an evolution of overdone and increasingly meh retro 2d-like Mario titles. It's kinda like how ACIV maybe had the best assassin gameplay but I'm so sick if it I found it somehow difficult to enjoy parts of that game that weren't on a boat.

Whereas Galaxy was such a fresh new game (not just for Mario but in general) that you could justify a level pack sequel no problem.

I'm not saying that's fair to 3D World, I'm just saying this is how it is.

I can't say I've seen this negativity towards SM3DW. Not since its release anyway. People criticized it when Nintendo showed off that weak first trailer but the trailers in the month or so leading up to release and since release I've heard and read nothing but good things about the game. Just to throw my two cents into the whole debate, I do find both Galaxy games better but 3D World is still awesome, just wish it didn't have the timer so I could fully explore the awesome levels at my own pace.

I personally would love a return to the adventure type Mario games (Mario 64/Mario Sunshine). I really love the open, living breathing worlds of those games in addition to the exploratory components. To me they offer the most personality and best atmosphere in any Mario game to date because the levels themselves have a continuity that other Mario games lack. I would love another Mario Sunshine or at least a Mario Sunshine HD remake.

Some people will criticize any IP of being a rehash. It seems like most of those complainers haven't even played that game.

The most common complaint about 3D World I've heard is that too easy at the start and that the bosses are too easy. IMO, since 3D World is so based on the "fun factor", I think that's an excellent design choice. All players will be able to beat the end Bowser in 3D World and have great fun along the way, but after that the challenges begin. And the first worlds make a great party game. Combined with the excellent jazzy soundtrack and its graphics design, I think 3D World stands out on its own quite well, compared to any other Mario game.

Personaly, this is one of my favorite Mario games, together with all stars and 64 ^^

But for some reasons, i stinks at those car stages

FINALLY! Just finished Champion Road after just 13 hours totally spent on this..only 4 characters left.. haha.

Have only seen gameplay from Galaxy but from what i can tell 3D World seems better, its nothing that im missing after watching those gameplays. But everyone has a opinion ofc. But have not actually played Galaxy..

How the heck am I supposed to beat a miicharacter thats finish the flagpole goal stage in 4 seconds?

The 2 Galaxy games are also great games. They are a quite different gaming experience than 3D World, and I'm not sure that gameplay videos can show that accurately.

I'm a big fan of 3D World but I'd say the Galaxy games are both better. Just watching videos definitely does not do them justice. Since the Wii U is backwards compatible, I'd say if you have the time and money, definitely give the Galaxy games a go some day.

My CN official Super Mario 3D world Soundtrack arrived yesterday and it is glorious I think I have played Snow ball park like ten times already.

An "making of" article about 3D World:
http://www.edge-online.com/features/the-making-of-super-mario...

I can't get enough of this game! I was so upset when I thought I was about to beat it and then, Boom!
There's another bonus world!

don't be upset. i was acctually very happy if the game finished after beating bowser i wouldnt have been very impressed.