Topic: Pikmin 3 - OT

Nintendo could implement something where you go back a certain amount of days. For example, they could implement one of the systems used in Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together on PSP. One of those was a way to go back up to fifty turns so you wouldn't have to start a game over if you knew you'd fail. Another was one that let you travel back in time to key decision points so you could try out the new maps and story it would give you. Both of those ideas, if implemented correctly, could work very well for Pikmin 3.

@Brando67854321 He's an expert game designer. The changes will work. I have yet to see a game Miyamoto was behind that didn't turn out great.

Pikmin 2 sold less than pikmin 1 & He made pikmin 3 like pikmin 1 because of the bad sales of pikmin 2 like f-zero gx although unlike f-zero gx, pikmin 2 is rare & expensive everywhere!

I don't think sales have anything to do with his reasoning. I'm pretty sure he's implementing it because he thinks it's best for the game. It's debatable whether or not that's the case, but with the reception from Pikmin 2 backing it, it's really hard to see sales as a reason for having a timer.

Whether it's rare and expensive is also debatable, considering you can buy the Wii version for $20.

@Brando - Okay... I still don't see any problems with this. Pikmin was a great game. A little short perhaps, but an excellent game. Also, Miyamoto said that he wanted to bring back the sense of stress and urgency the original provided, not make a new time limit. That could be the case, but it could also be something new. Perhaps if you stay in one area too long, a herd of particularly nasty enemies will close in on you, forcing you to act quickly and intelligently.

Just as an FYI, if you are looking for a copy of Pikmin 2, they do have the NPC versions on the Wii now. I got mine for 20 bucks a little while back. I tried to find the Gamecube one too myself over a year or so ago, and you're right. That thing can be pricey.

Here is a link if anyone is interested :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16878190287&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords--pla--NA-_-NA&gclid=CL2ehPOzyrQCFcxAMgodfm0AYw

True but we did not get that until june of 2012, 3 years after the release in europe & I was just referring to the gamecube original!
@joshers We didnt get that game in america 3 years ago when it first released in europe!

But that clearly has nothing to do with sales. If anything, getting rid of that was specifically done to improve sales. There is no reality in which the 30 day time limit is more "mainstream" or whatever. Pikmin 2 didn't sell as well because of Nintendo's slow descent into irrelevence in the early 2000s, especially the GCN. Like IIRC almost all of GCN's best selling games came out within its first year. Either that or people were turned off by not liking Pikmin (either for what wasn't in the sequel or for the gameplay as a whole) and so not nearly as many people got the sequel.

At most, Pikmin 2's failures helped them bring back features like this, but as far as I can tell, this is a classic example of putting in interesting game design not caring if it alienates some people.

@Brando67854321 So uh let me get this straight... You hate every game in existence? Because it sure seems like that based on every comment you've ever posted.

Miyamoto hates pikmin 2 not me! I was referring to miyamoto!

So... what?

citation needed.

HEY GUYS SOMEONE LIKES A GAME LESS THAN ANOTHER GAME THEY MUST HATE IT

And because someone hates it it must be bad.

Yeah seriously, my favorite Smash Bros game (aka my fav. fighting game ever) was considered a disappointment IIRC from the guy who made it. Same with Megaman 3, which is my favorite of the NES Megaman games.

Soooo....who else is looking forward to Pikmin 3?? I hope the release date comes out soon..

To help put this in perspective, I've written FanFictions (not quite so much anymore) and there was one in particular that everybody just simply loved. Only, I didn't think the story was all that great myself. The point is, just because the creator of something doesn't like his own work, doesn't mean that other people will dislike it too.

ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pikmin 3 is a game I'm really looking forward to. However, I feel I tend to like games more when I don't follow them heavily, so I won't be watching any videos for this one.

By the by, Miyamoto, never said he hated Pikmin 2. He simply disagreed with some of its design choices.

Source: http://www.destructoid.com/miyamoto-going-back-to-basics-for-...

I am really looking forward to Pikmin 3. I do hope they come up with a solid release date though, even if it will be awhile.

Nah pikmin 2 was better than pikmin 1 & miyamoto is out of touch with us gamers!

He doesn't even necessarily disagree. He simply stated he didn't like making it easier.

And for what it's worth, I liked Pikmin 1 more than 2. Mainly because I replay it frequently. Yeah, I'm in the minority, but it counts for something.