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Topic: Nintendo or 4kids, who's worse with censorship?

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TheMisterManGuy

In the 80s and early 90s, Nintendo was notorious for strict censorship policies. Prohibiting things like Blood, extreme violence, gratouitous sex, religion, or use of alcohol or tobacco. While most of these policies were scrapped with the advent of the ESRB, there's still a rare instance were the company makes a minor change or two so that their games can be playable by kids 14 and under, an important demographic for the company.

But in the anime industry, there was a New York-based children's production company that was not only notorious for extreme censorship, but an example of censorship gone wrong. Although 4kids Entertainment no longer exists, their legacy of heavily edited anime dubs forever live on as a source of humor for anime fans. The problem wasn't just that 4kids censored and edited anime, the problem was that they rarely did it well.

They were pretty much the anime equivalent of an overprotective nanny. Always keeping kids in bubble wrap never letting them get exposed to reality. Most of what 4kids aquired was for kids roughly of upper elementary and middle school age (10-15 years old) in Japan. 4kids, seeing the success of Pokémon, felt it was better to target children younger than that. Thus, the removal of blood, any and all fanservice and innuendo (even if its something relativley harmless), dumbed down, pun-filled dialogue that sounds like it was written by 5 year olds, discarding scenes and even entire episodes that were "unimportant to the main story" (Kids are too stupid to get character development or subplots apparently), And even removing text, Japanese culture, guns, and even the concept of death (kids can't know about these things, they're EEEEEVIIIIIILLLLLLLL!!!).

Say what you want about Nintendo's censorship, at least these days, its subtle and rare. While I don't agree with all their changes (censoring Tharja's ass in the Awakening DLC was going a bit too far IMO), Nintendo at least treats 10-14 year olds with respect, and isn't afraid to expose them to things like death, war, sacrifice, mild fanservice (Great Fairy and Zero Suit Samus are examples), and occasionaly, mild blood. So who do you think is worse?

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TheMisterManGuy

Xilef

4kids, no doubt. Nintendo has never ruined something with it's censoring.

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BearHunger

You just explained why 4kids was way worse. Why bother asking us? Did you want one of us to say "Nintendo" starting a flame war that you could watch?

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

(censoring Tharja's donkey in the Awakening DLC was going a bit too far IMO)

Oh but at least she had super-hot thigh-high socks, right? That's showing them tweens some real respect!

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BearHunger

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This is why subs are better

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LegatoSkyheart

Nintendo hasn't really done anything next to 4kids's Butchering of One Piece and Yugioh.

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unrandomsam

Xilef wrote:

4kids, no doubt. Nintendo has never ruined something with it's censoring.

It has done the job badly quite a few times. Final Fantasy III (VI) for example or Castlevania 3.

Importing bits have just been cut leaving the end result just not making any sense.

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Jacob717

Suicune wrote:

This is why subs are better

No, this is why Funimation is better than 4Kids

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TwilightV

To be fair ridiculous television broadcast standards set by the FCC were most likely the reason characters "went to another dimension" instead of dying.

...But all that other crap was totally 4Kids fault. One time they removed two story arcs from One Piece that ended up being very important to the plot later on.

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4kids, because video game stories didn't need stories when this was still a problem.

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4kids. Nintendo's censorship since the SNES era has been pretty much non existent, and even back in the NES era they were willing to let more things past the radar than 4kids ever were. Nintendo also very rarely censored stuff on 'cultural' grounds, with most censorship being because of an overprotective view of 'morality' rather than because 'oh no, it's Japanese and people won't get it!'

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4kids for hiding the wonderous magical food known as rice balls from me during my child hood years! i was constantly wondering why donuts in pokemon looked bizzare ...

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R_Champ

Xilef wrote:

4kids, no doubt. Nintendo has never ruined something with it's censoring.

I think that's the biggest point. Nintendo does censor/tone down...but never to the point where it changes the intent/quality of the original material. Censoring Tharja's butt was a strange choice, but it was still a fanservicy tease like it was meant to be.

I remember watching 4kids One Piece and watching Luffy kick the clown (been WAY too long, don't remember his name) in the shin...totally ruining the original crass comedy of kicking him in the...well, you know if you've watched it

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Bass_X0

Strange. When I was playing Fire Emblem, I didn't once think to myself that it needed Tharja's butt.

4kids, because video game stories didn't need stories when this was still a problem.

I guess Final Fantasy VI didn't have a story then...

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Bass_X0

censorship never dies. it just comes back every few years.

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