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Topic: Nintendo and Ubisoft's relationship needs to END! (opinion)

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mariovslink62

So today me and my friend were chatting at lunch. We were cracking jokes and all, but then he mentions Ubisoft and Nintendo and asks me if they are friends still.
Honestly if they still friends then I think this buddy buddy relationship should just end. Ubisoft has screwed over Nintendo at least 4 times.

1. Rayman Legends. I know it isn't Ubisoft's fault but they could have just ported it later on
2. Watch Dogs. I don't understand why Ubisoft isn't paying attention here. I didn't see 1 commercial say or show Assassin's Creed or Watch Dogs was coming to Wii U
3. ACU. You pretty much blame the hardware? 8-player Smash and Xenoblade X say hi.

Overall Nintendo should get a new 3rd Party partner IMO. I hoping for Platinum Games at the most.
This is all my opinion. Yours can be different.

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LiquidEvilGaming

I'd agree for the most part except a few things...

1. Nintendo has so little third party support as is the last thing they need is less, not everyone can afford multiple gaming sources so if ONE purchase is their only option even gimped third party games are better than none.
2. I'd love to see a ZombiU2 i felt it was a VERY under rated game IMO.

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mariovslink62

LiquidEvilGaming wrote:

I'd agree for the most part except a few things...

1. Nintendo has so little third party support as is the last thing they need is less.
2. I'd love to see a ZombiU2 i felt it was a VERY under rated game IMO.

Zombi U yes! As for third party I can see Nintendo using Platinum Games since IMO again they seem to be the best partner.

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TimelessJubilee

Ubisoft and Nintendo's relationship needs to end?What have you been living under a rock?It ended a long time ago,Watch Dogs was the final nail in the coffin of their relationship.

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midnafanboy wrote:

Ubisoft and Nintendo's relationship needs to end?What have you been living under a rock?It ended a long time ago,Watch Dogs was the final nail in the coffin of their relationship.

That's true to the extent of mature games but that's all that was said for certain. I could see future Rayman or similar games releasing onto the Wii-U in the future possibly, While not a Mega hit Rayman Legends sold 400k-450K worldwide on Wii-U? Not amazing but respectable for a port. I agree mature game support is all but dead though.

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Captain_Toad

In some ways I agree, though I do agree in second chances......okay third.....fourth....fifth. As soon as they find the error of their ways they'll come back.

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TimelessJubilee

LiquidEvilGaming wrote:

midnafanboy wrote:

Ubisoft and Nintendo's relationship needs to end?What have you been living under a rock?It ended a long time ago,Watch Dogs was the final nail in the coffin of their relationship.

That's true to the extent of mature games but that's all that was said for certain. I could see future Rayman or similar games releasing onto the Wii-U in the future possibly, While not a Mega hit Rayman Legends sold 400k-450K worldwide on Wii-U? Not amazing but respectable for a port. I agree mature game support is all but dead though.

If i remember right Rayman legends for the Wiiu is not a port,the other versions are .The Wiiu version was already finished,but after a certain time it was delayed and released for the other systems.

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midnafanboy wrote:

LiquidEvilGaming wrote:

midnafanboy wrote:

Ubisoft and Nintendo's relationship needs to end?What have you been living under a rock?It ended a long time ago,Watch Dogs was the final nail in the coffin of their relationship.

That's true to the extent of mature games but that's all that was said for certain. I could see future Rayman or similar games releasing onto the Wii-U in the future possibly, While not a Mega hit Rayman Legends sold 400k-450K worldwide on Wii-U? Not amazing but respectable for a port. I agree mature game support is all but dead though.

If i remember right Rayman legends for the Wiiu is not a port,the other versions are .The Wiiu version was already finished,but after a certain time it was released for the other systems.

You may well be correct on that as i'm not 100% certain as i'm not a huge fan of the game. Still 400+K units for a Non Nintendo IP isn't too shabby. But i definitely agree mature Ubisoft games are dead on Wii-U

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DefHalan

LiquidEvilGaming wrote:

midnafanboy wrote:

LiquidEvilGaming wrote:

midnafanboy wrote:

Ubisoft and Nintendo's relationship needs to end?What have you been living under a rock?It ended a long time ago,Watch Dogs was the final nail in the coffin of their relationship.

That's true to the extent of mature games but that's all that was said for certain. I could see future Rayman or similar games releasing onto the Wii-U in the future possibly, While not a Mega hit Rayman Legends sold 400k-450K worldwide on Wii-U? Not amazing but respectable for a port. I agree mature game support is all but dead though.

If i remember right Rayman legends for the Wiiu is not a port,the other versions are .The Wiiu version was already finished,but after a certain time it was released for the other systems.

You may well be correct on that as i'm not 100% certain as i'm not a huge fan of the game. Still 400+K units for a Non Nintendo IP isn't too shabby. But i definitely agree mature Ubisoft games are dead on Wii-U

Yea the Wii U version is the 2nd best selling verson (PS3 being the best but not by much)

To bad more people didn't buy Ubisoft's Mature games or any Mature games on Wii U, we could have gotten more if that happened

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

TimelessJubilee

DefHalan wrote:

LiquidEvilGaming wrote:

midnafanboy wrote:

LiquidEvilGaming wrote:

midnafanboy wrote:

Ubisoft and Nintendo's relationship needs to end?What have you been living under a rock?It ended a long time ago,Watch Dogs was the final nail in the coffin of their relationship.

That's true to the extent of mature games but that's all that was said for certain. I could see future Rayman or similar games releasing onto the Wii-U in the future possibly, While not a Mega hit Rayman Legends sold 400k-450K worldwide on Wii-U? Not amazing but respectable for a port. I agree mature game support is all but dead though.

If i remember right Rayman legends for the Wiiu is not a port,the other versions are .The Wiiu version was already finished,but after a certain time it was released for the other systems.

You may well be correct on that as i'm not 100% certain as i'm not a huge fan of the game. Still 400+K units for a Non Nintendo IP isn't too shabby. But i definitely agree mature Ubisoft games are dead on Wii-U

Yea the Wii U version is the 2nd best selling verson (PS3 being the best but not by much)

To bad more people didn't buy Ubisoft's Mature games or any Mature games on Wii U, we could have gotten more if that happened

Yeah we would'ave but we would have gotten terrible ports of those so called Mature games,like Watch dogs.

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DefHalan

midnafanboy wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

LiquidEvilGaming wrote:

midnafanboy wrote:

LiquidEvilGaming wrote:

midnafanboy wrote:

Ubisoft and Nintendo's relationship needs to end?What have you been living under a rock?It ended a long time ago,Watch Dogs was the final nail in the coffin of their relationship.

That's true to the extent of mature games but that's all that was said for certain. I could see future Rayman or similar games releasing onto the Wii-U in the future possibly, While not a Mega hit Rayman Legends sold 400k-450K worldwide on Wii-U? Not amazing but respectable for a port. I agree mature game support is all but dead though.

If i remember right Rayman legends for the Wiiu is not a port,the other versions are .The Wiiu version was already finished,but after a certain time it was released for the other systems.

You may well be correct on that as i'm not 100% certain as i'm not a huge fan of the game. Still 400+K units for a Non Nintendo IP isn't too shabby. But i definitely agree mature Ubisoft games are dead on Wii-U

Yea the Wii U version is the 2nd best selling verson (PS3 being the best but not by much)

To bad more people didn't buy Ubisoft's Mature games or any Mature games on Wii U, we could have gotten more if that happened

Yeah we would'ave but we would have gotten terrible ports of those so called Mature games,like Watch dogs.

The Watch_Dogs port isn't bad actually. The bad part about it is that it is just a port, nothing really special to make it different than the other console versions.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

NintendoFan64

Their friendship seems to now be at an all-time low, with Just Dance being the only thing keeping the thread from snapping in two. I'm honestly not entirely sure if Ubisoft just doesn't want to support Nintendo or is just stupid with their recent actions.
1. If you decide to make Rayman Legends multi-platform, that's fine. Just don't delay the finished Wii U version by six months!
2. They didn't even TRY to make Watchdogs Wii U a success.
3. Wii U couldn't handle Unity, you say? Yeah, I'm calling bullcrap.
4. Saying that Nintendo fans don't buy mature games was just insulting. We aren't just a bunch of children!...Okay, so some of us are, but not all of us!
I gotta say that it's amazing how Ubisoft went from one of the biggest supporters of the Wii U to treating Nintendo and it's fans like crap.

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Burning_Spear

Ubisoft has done a lot for Wii U: Zombie U when the system had no games; Rayman when the system had a weak lineup at best; Watch Dogs; two versions of Assassin's Creed. Here's the news: Wii U is still not a moneymaker for third parties. We should appreciate the third parties who contribute, even if they have to take an exclusive to other platforms or devote less attention to the Wii U version of a game. They jumped aboard the bandwagon when few other third parties would — they're not required to keep blindly dumping money into big-time games and taking losses.

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Gridatttack

3. You don't even know how the game is coded and how many stuff is handled at the same time.
Just because smashU and XBCX seems expansive it doesn't mean their ACU game is optimized or designed to run well on wii u hardware.
(the problem for ACU running at 30fps is because of the many instructions being run at the same time, not the polygons. The processor cant handle the load at a decent FPS, so being on wii u, it would be a lagfest, unless they severely removed stuff from the game)

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arojilla

If they are still friends? They are companies, they both will do whatever benefits them, there is no reason for Nintendo to shut the door close for Ubisoft, if they don't want to make more games or only some casual games well that's always their decision and problem, but Nintendo should always have their doors wide open for when they changer their minds.

Now, at this point I am sure Nintendo realized they can't count on third parties anymore, at least for the next years, hence their new focus.

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mariovslink62

Alright quick update
My friend just texted me about the topic. I asked him if ACU could actually be good enough on the Wii U. He said
"Capable or not it was probably going to have the same glitches on the other systems"
You may question what does this has to do with Ubisoft but the point he's trying to make I assume is that it didn't matter because it would be just as bad as the PS4 and XBOX ONE versions. I actually own a PS4 and it did have some issues with the game. So either way it would be the same crappy experience, just with less content. (possibly)
I will come back to update later on to this post. Also I won't be quoting comments because I hate arguing with people that get angry over an opinion!

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arojilla

mariovslink62 wrote:

Also I won't be quoting comments because I hate arguing with people that get angry over an opinion!

Huh? Who got angry?

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SillyG

I hadn't bought either of the Assassin's Creed games on Wii U because I couldn't trust a third party to persist with a franchise on a platform that they have no commitment to. Fast forward two years later and I was right, and now I'm all the gladder that I didn't waste my money.

Watch_Dogs is another story though. I've been keen on the game since it was announced for Wii U, but it became clear all too quickly that they were going to screw us over. Fortunately, the Wii U version turned out fine (even though Ubisoft didn't have the decency to include all currently released DLC as part of the package considering that the Wii U version was going to be full priced while the others are gradually, but surely, gravitating toward bargain bin territory). I don't regret my purchase as I'm having a lot of fun with the game, but I'm disappointed all the same as the Bad Blood expansion and any possible sequels will not be released on a Nintendo platform.

Watch_Dogs will probably be my last Ubisoft game though. They've pretty much abandoned the 3DS (while the original DS had a huge variety of games from Ubisoft), and any future Wii U titles will probably be Just Dance or Rabbids-related, which I have no interest in.

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Ubisoft is becoming the new EA to me.All they want is the money,not the enjoyment of gamers(not saying money shouldn't be a priority,just not the first one).Before long,they're going to be holding back Raving Rabbids and Rayman games from us because of "hardware" and "poor sales".They wouldn't have poor sales for their Wii U games if they actually showed that AC and Rayman were on the Wii U.I swear,they just want to jinx things for themselves so they can use the "our games sell poorly on this system" excuse again.

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SCRAPPER392

DefHalan wrote:

To bad more people didn't buy Ubisoft's Mature games or any Mature games on Wii U, we could have gotten more if that happened

Hardly anyone wants their ports on Wii U. Too bad, I guess. It's not like AC3 or ACIV really enticed people to buy Wii U. That's also part of the discussion, and I'm not saying that Ubisofts games should have made people want to buy a Wii U, but those people are already buying those games on Xbox or PS, anyway, so there is no reason to buy 3rd party games on Wii U for alot of people if they are buying other platforms, anyway.

At the end of the day, the people buying 3rd party games on Xbox or PS prefer said consoles' exclusives, system features, and/or support.

I'm surprised people aren't sick of AC on Xbox or PS, TBH.

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