Wii U

Topic: It's about the ideas not the graphics...

Scollurio · 2013-05-30T21:47:38+00:00

Hey folks, please share your opinion on this. Trying to give a short introduction. 2D artstyle, fancy coop gameplay (ever anyone checked out BroForce?) and impressive artistic visuals - that seems to be the way the indies like their games, and I do too. While the PS4 and XBONE announcements were both not THAT impressive SO far I had a few good conversations with a few mates, we are all in our 30ies and we all share one idea, agree to one thing: If games just improve visually we're not impressed. See we grew up with our beloved SNES and Gameboys and loved our PC gaming enjoying titles like Battlefield 1942, Ufo, Xcom, Syndicate etc... All the genres we have in place today, especially shooters, have been done countless of times, with basicly all the same features and a basicly on-par visual representation. So then come people like that Minecraft guy and become an internet-legend in a very short time. I think this is a clear sign of things that need to change. I think that if enough people vote with their wallets we will see a second advent of videogames very soon. What do I mean? I mean that developers finally will realize that the games have to improve in FEATURES, GAMEPLAY and IDEAS to further impress people. Let me give you 3 examples: 1) The other kind of shooter. Imagine a game thats a bit like minecraft, with simple visuals, there are teams, 10 players each. When a match starts, they all spawn in opposing forts and have 15 minutes of preparation time. They all can use a limited amount of ressources to dig holes to hide in, construct turrets, research weapons, construct barracks that will automatically spawn computer controlled bots fighting for your team, etc... the whole world is destructible. It doesn't have to look super realistic, just make the possibilities happen and create the opportunities, then paintcoat the engine as good as possible to make it look good, if it looks like a lego game fine. Then the game starts. Imagine this new kind of teambased shooter, with truly evolving landscapes and randomly generated maps and then further modified by the players before the battle starts, the dynamic, the endless opportunities for gaming-gold-moments in such an environment. Who would really care for the next super realistic modern warfare shooter that still puts you in the same old boundaries? I wouldn't`? Whats your take? 2) A new kind of strategy game. Strategy games - even though rarely seen on consoles - mostly have been all the same the past years. Build base, rush to attack, defend if necessary. What if that same formula was expanded. Into a coop-strategy game. Take a familiar game like command & conquer or warcraft and give each side 3 players. One player just commands the troops, he is the one that is the best tactician and is good with all that micro management of troops (Im not). Then there is another player, he runs construction and ressource management, he likes to build stuff, enjoys sim city and thats basicly what this game feels like to him. And then there is the third player, it's a rogue player who has a special set of units (of course provided player 1 and 2 make a good job) and he is set to infiltrate the enemy, sabotage their ressource collectors, steal technology, for him this would play like splinter cell - if the engine allows, even in first person. Now imagine this setup with a game of 4 nations (each with those 3 players) raging for dominance. See, old genre with fresh ideas that would appeal to many different kinds of players. Whats your take? 3) Simple. Why change something that was not broken. Why remove BOT support in shooters nowadays. Where is my COUCH coop when I need it? I mean its still better to concentrate on gaming concept that always worked well instead of creating sequel after sequel with just a new slab of paint on it. Granted, COD sells like hotcakes but I dare to say its because those people don't have any other alternative. Anyways, what I mean is, google for BROFORCE, its a retro-style FUN over-the top game (for PC) and you can test the current alpha build. It's 4 player coop, sidescrolling shooter and can be really tricky and hard, random generated levels, boss fights, blood, special skills, unlockables, you name it, they have it. It basicly has everything that made a sidescrolling shooter of yore good. Soundtrack is awesome and it is a sure thing to get your ridiculous gaming moments out of that one. If you can't create something truly new, then create something that has everything that worked well in the past. See its just 3 examples of things that I think should happen in the gaming industry. Just upping the resolution won't cut it. Sure many people argue "yes that extra power is not only going into graphics it can also be used for more destructive environments and more cars on track" - yep it could, but I really doubt it will, it will just go into graphics, because graphics sell games. Thats my bet at least. Here comes the Wii U into play. Many people will pick one up at least as secondary console to a PC or any other console and if Nintendo keeps getting good indies on board the Wii U could prove truly the console thats focused sorely on gaming. The power of the Wii U might be limited, but will it really matter if the games bring fresh ideas the big publishers cannot come up with sorely because they are too lazy, greedy or cannot risk to piss of shareholders with an "experimental new iP" that doesn't sell. I just am curious about your take on this. What is it? More of the already good library of indie games on NIntendo platforms with fresh ideas and new concepts or only triple A titles that are the same every year only look slightly better visually each iteration?

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MAB
Fri 31st May 2013

They use thousands of blast processors nowadays. It all could probably do something if we use our imaginations smoke and mirror theory... Mirrors and smokes
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