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Bass_X0

Part 2. The original can be found here: https://www.nintendolife.com/forums/retro/have_you_purchased_a...

"Bad" in this case also means something that other people may enjoy but you personally don't.
I've downloaded Donkey Kong Jr. Math just to have all the NES Mario games on Wii U for my folder - I downloaded it on Wii using points gained from Stars then only had to pay the transfer fee to Wii U. I also downloaded Castlevania II, Street Fighter 2010 and Street Fighter II World Warriors just to complete their respective series' folders. Street Fighter II is in no way a bad game, but I do find it unnecessary after downloading Super and Turbo.

I have since stopped using series specific folders and just use console specific folders now.

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Edgey, Gumshoe, Godot, Sissel, Larry, then Mia, Franziska, Maggie, Kay and Lynne.

I'm throwing my money at the screen but nothing happens!

CanisWolfred

Sadly, yes. Suikoden IV, I obviously could transfer my save from #3 to Tactics and then to 5, so I have no regrets there.

Wild Arms 4...wasn't much worse than 2 or 3, so I could probably bear it if I gave it some time.

Mega Man X7 was at least...playable? I mean, at least it wasn't Sonic '06.

And yes, I did get Sonic '06.

However, in no way could I justify buying Tales of Legendia for $30. I could barely make it through the first dungeon before I was sick of the long load times, sluggish framerate, random battles (or were they just unavoidable?), and arguably the obnoxious main character, though I guess that was my bad - I expected him to be really cool after watching the opening, instead of being every teenage Shounen anime protagonist ever.

Don't even get me started on Advanced Guardian Heroes. It wasn't even worth the $5 I paid. It's literally unplayable, it's the slowest beat 'em up I've ever encountered. I can't believe they even put it on store shelves!

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KingMike

ActRaiser 2. While they tried to make the platforming much more in-depth, taking out the sim mode made it lose its specialty.

Glory of Heracles 1 for the Famicom. Graphics are kind of ugly even for 1987, and it has breakable equipment. It would supposed to be even more of a Dragon Quest clone, but they changed some stuff (such as removing battle background windows and replacing them with full-screen black backgrounds) probably to avoid being sued by Enix.

Maybe not a specific series, but I'm sure I've bought a few bad games to finish my SFC RPG sets. (though I still haven't bought the Enix mahjong game just to say having a full Square/Enix set )

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CanisWolfred

Looking at the old thread, I see I forgot about Tekken 4. I did eventually sell that, though. It just wasn't worth keeping around.

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Eel

Oh yeah, I bought Super Smash Bros for WiiU, Paper Mario TTYD, The Legend of Zelda ALttP and other highly rated games.

Wait no, I meant, no. I have bought bad games in series I like, but I'm not with the intention of collecting them.

Mostly because I don't know they'll be bad.

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FX102A

Maybe not terrible games but ones that I wouldn't rate highly I suppose. I mean I bought all the Hyperdimension Neptunia games.

Also Ace Combat Assault Horizon was a real cut under the previous titles; still bought it on PS3, X360 and PC.

P.S. I'm all for differing views but with so many critically acclaimed games being mentioned above under "bad games" makes me wonder if they're being serious. I mean there are several acclaimed games I'm not a fan of (Last of Us, GTAIV, Majora's Mask) that I'm not a big fan of but I don't consider any "bad" per se.

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ogo79

no, 78 copies of big rigs is 78 copies of big rigs played

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As @ogo79 said, the SNS-RZ-USA is a prime giveaway that it's not a legit retail cart.
And yes, he is (usually) always right, and he is (almost) the sexiest gamer out there (not counting me) ;)

KingMike

@ogo79 Why do you have 78 copies of Big Riggs? So you can drive backwards at 78 infinitillion miles per hour and destroy the universe?

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Sisilly_G

The handheld Sims games. I haven't collected all of them, and I eventually traded-in The Sims 2: Pets [DS] (which I regret only for the fact that the cover art was so pretty) to put toward Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars, as a store had a "trade any 2 DS games" promotion, so I went ahead and traded in my two biggest duds.

The Sims: Bustin' Out (2003) [GBA]
I love this game. The music, the beautiful visuals… and as an overall experience, it is so engaging and charming and I still go back to it every once in a while. The ONLY thing holding it back is its linearity and the fact that it has a Fire Emblem-style ending in which the conclusion is a definite one, and the only way to continue playing the game is to avoid triggering the final cutscene and just pretend that it isn't there (which is a device that I do not like to see in mostly open-ended games).

The Urbz: Sims in the City (2004/2005) [GBA/DS]
A direct sequel to The Sims: Bustin' Out, but with a more stylised aesthetic (which I dislike), but it's less linear and addresses some of the flaws of the previous game. As an overall experience, I still prefer Bustin' Out, though I've completed Urbz many, many times when I first bought my DS and couldn't afford any more games for it until The Sims 2 was released later that year. A worthy sequel that showed a lot of promise.

The Sims 2 (2005) [GBA]
Uses the same engine/aesthetic as the last two games, but the already limited options for socialising are even more limited in this game, and everything that was good about the last two games is completely lost here. The only resemblance between this and the last two games are purely superficial. This had so much potential, and I was so, so excited to have TWO new Sims games by year's end, but this turned out to be such an enormous dud (and yet the worst was yet to come).

The Sims 2 (2005) [DS]
A direct sequel to The Urbz, but with a much smaller game world and significantly shorter campaign (using the same NPCs as its sister title on GBA, but with a totally new 3D engine and storyline). While not quite at the level of the first two games, I still enjoyed this immensely, and it was great to have a hotel management sim (however limited that it is) to take on the go. I would also consider this to be an "open world" game, though the world is a very small one (a desert town). There's plenty of things to do, and the game occasionally generates side-missions for you to complete. The graphics were also quite nice, if not impressive. I would have been happy to see the franchise continue in this direction, but alas… alas…

The Sims 2: Pets (2006) [DS]
This game is a complete POS with atrocious production values (dreadfully low-polygon models, all of whom look almost exactly alike; poor animation; downright creepy/ugly looking cats/dogs; grammatical/punctuation errors in most instances of on-screen dialogue), and to add insult to injury, it's a buggy mess that frequently locks up. While you can customise the interior of your house, the furniture is appallingly undetailed, owing to the fact that some items are literally just cubes with blocks as textures designed to vaguely resemble furniture or appliances. Just an inexcusably poor quality game and a stain on the Sims franchise. The GBA version appeared to be better (adopting similar visuals to previous GBA Sims games), but I couldn't find it at a reasonable price, so I gave it a miss. I'm still tempted after all of these years to give the GBA version a try, but I don't particularly care enough as I know that it will not live up to the first two games. I didn't even bother with The Sims 2: Apartment Pets (2008) as it looked like a rehash of The Sims 2: Pets on DS (cough the worst game in the series). Its only redeeming factor is the licensed soundtrack (which it shares with the PC expansion and the console versions).

The Sims 2: Castaway (2007) [DS]
Production values are not quite as bad as Pets (though they appear to use the same engine), with a nice ambient soundtrack, but this is still far from reaching the heights of The Sims 2 [DS] and the GBA games that preceded it. Animations are quite poor, however, the graphics look better here if only for the fact that everything is viewed from a distance. Hardly any NPCs to interact with here (with stupid, unimaginative names like "Doctor Feelgood" and "Chef Butcher"). Okay for a few hours, but the game leads absolutely nowhere, so I eventually gave up on it.

The Sims 3 (2010) [DS]
A decent attempt to replicate The Sims 3 [PC] on a dated handheld device, but that is also the game's key detriment. It's sluggish as hell and I would much rather have seen a game that was better suited to the limitations of the hardware. The game also doesn't lend itself well to short gameplay sessions, as you need to wait for your Sim for the entire duration that they are at work, for instance (and the sped-up in-game clock isn't fast enough to alleviate the tediousness).

The Sims 3 (2011) [3DS]
While superficially impressive, the poor controls really weigh this one down. Too limiting/shallow to hold one's attention for more than an hour or two. EA would have been better off porting the original Sims game on PC to 3DS instead of trying to push the system's graphical capabilities at the expense of enjoyable gameplay.

The Sims 3: Pets (2011) [3DS]
The controls are improved slightly, but it still suffers from the same problems that plagued The Sims 3 [3DS]. There's a little more to do here, but it is still an unenjoyable and limited experience.

It's quite pathetic that EA are yet to best a GBA game from 2003 as far as the handheld iterations of The Sims are concerned. The Sims is a great concept tarred by EA's greed and disregard for quality. Sadly, I strongly doubt that The Sims (or other classic EA franchises, such as SimCity) will ever reach the heights of their heyday again (let alone exceed them). =(

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Eel

I banished my copy of The Sims 2 Pets (DS) to the shelf of shame. From where it should never be released.

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Fiyaball

Battle Network 1 for $25. Worst part was, my local game store was selling it for $5 a few months later.

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Nagi

I bought Pokémon Dash because i wanted to complete my DS Pokémon Collection.
A very mediocre Game.

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Grumblevolcano

Other M, I heard about how bad the game was but I wanted the entire canon Metroid collection so I bought it for like £3 in TRU brand new. Still haven't played it at all but then I remembered recently that I don't own Metroid II in any form so I'm buying that off the 3DS eshop now.

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Tasuki

@CanisWolfred I did the exact same thing when it came to Tekken 4. Loved 1, 2, 3 and bought 4, 5, and 6 at later dates to complete my Tekken collection sold off 4, 5, and 6 eventually.

I know I would get bashed here but Wind Wake falls into that catergory for me. Bought it years ago on GC to add to my Zelda collection and didn't like it. Kept it for awhile and evetually sold it.

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CanisWolfred

Tasuki wrote:

@CanisWolfred I did the exact same thing when it came to Tekken 4. Loved 1, 2, 3 and bought 4, 5, and 6 at later dates to complete my Tekken collection sold off 4, 5, and 6 eventually.

I know I would get bashed here but Wind Wake falls into that catergory for me. Bought it years ago on GC to add to my Zelda collection and didn't like it. Kept it for awhile and evetually sold it.

5 I thought was the best in the series by a high margin, and comes packed with 1, 2, and 3 all in the same package, so why would you sell that? 4 messed everything up with free-running and those weird environmental obstacles in every stage (or at least most of 'em). I never played Tekken 6. I just kinda...forgot it existed. :/

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@CanisWolfred I have 1, 2, and 3 on PS 1 still and I just couldn't get into 5 at the time. Not sure why but it just didn't strike me like 1, 2 or 3 did.

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Octane

@Grumblevolcano Play it, it's actually pretty decent if you're not expecting a FPS/Prime style game. Very much in line with the original and Super Metroid.

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CanisWolfred

Octane wrote:

@Grumblevolcano Play it, it's actually pretty decent if you're not expecting a FPS/Prime style game. Very much in line with the original and Super Metroid.

I'd argue that's an insult to Metroid and Super Metroid, but that horse is already dead and buried. If you're gonna play it, play it. If not, then just toss it. No one's gonna remember it in 10 years, so what is it gonna do besides taking up space in your closet/shelf that could be used on more important things?

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Eel

I thought that game was ok.

Only a bit too hard. Mostly because of the fps controls.

If I had to choose between the original and Other M, I'd choose Fusion Other M.

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